Re:Interesting wormwood links

[Guest guest]

I found these sites, among a million others. Here is a small bit of information

on wormwood-

" It has been shown that consuming pure essential oil of wormwood, a poisonous

concentrate containing high amounts of thujone and with neurotoxins intact, can

cause renal failure and death if consumed. Pure essential oil of wormwood is not

absinthe. IT IS POISON. "

http://www.gumbopages.com/food/beverages/absinthe.html

http://www.feeverte.net/worm-myth.html#egypt Histories (my favorite)

http://www.wholeperson-counseling.org/ndoc/asteroid.html planetary

Wormwood is mentioned in bibles:

http://www.feeverte.net/worm-myth.html#egypthttp://www.talkaboutreligion.com/gro\

up/alt.christnet.religion/messages/19046.html

Jay Grosflam <jgrosflam@...> wrote:

to my knowledge it might be Absinthe.

--- Kathleen <KathleenPL@...> wrote:

> Can someone tell me why wormwood should be used

> cautiously? What do we look

> for when we are being cautious using this? I haven't

> used it, but am curious since the

> article doesn't state the reason.

>

> Kathleen

>

> On 1 Dec 2005 at 15:24, L L wrote:

>

> > Wormwood

> >

> > The wormwood shrub grows wild in Europe, North

> Africa, and western

> > Asia. It is now cultivated in North America as

> well. The leaves and

> > flowers, and the oil obtained from them, are all

> used in herbal

> > medicine. Wormwood should be used cautiously. It

> may anesthetize a

> > worm enough that it looses its grip on the

> intestines so that it can

> > be eliminated. This said, wormwood has some other

> properties that

> > qualify it for an antiparasitic protocol: it

> reduces stomach pain

> > and helps to relieve the anemia that often

> accompanies

> > parasitization of red blood cells.

> >

>

>

>

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great homework---I myself would stick with the garlic and or

cranberry--known food stuffs.

> >

> > > Wormwood

> > >

> > > The wormwood shrub grows wild in Europe, North

> > Africa, and western

> > > Asia. It is now cultivated in North America as

> > well. The leaves and

> > > flowers, and the oil obtained from them, are all

> > used in herbal

> > > medicine. Wormwood should be used cautiously. It

> > may anesthetize a

> > > worm enough that it looses its grip on the

> > intestines so that it can

> > > be eliminated. This said, wormwood has some other

> > properties that

> > > qualify it for an antiparasitic protocol: it

> > reduces stomach pain

> > > and helps to relieve the anemia that often

> > accompanies

> > > parasitization of red blood cells.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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I have tested negative for many bacteria in my gut and I presume

it's my uses of garlic and onions. (At least I hope so)!!!!!!

But that doesn't rule out everything!!!

also have read on one of the sites I posted the use of digestive

acids (enzymes) to rid the body of parasites.

I use Bentaine HCL but only when I eat a very large, heavy protein

meal (and that is not many because of the GB) of course. So I wonder

if this does help with parasites???

I wish I had all the answers as this problem is still bothering me

as well as all of you!!

Turkey day did me in and I am back in pain but on my right

midsection of my back.

uggggggggggg

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: tina83862<mailto:tina83862@y...>

> To:

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:16 AM

> Subject: Re:Interesting wormwood links

>

>

> great homework---I myself would stick with the garlic and or

> cranberry--known food stuffs.

>

>

> Garlic is a great antheminic, cranberry very mildly so except

for urinary infections.

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes you are 100% right not an enzyme but a acid---HCL

I should of explained further--but busy today--

many digestive enzyems do contain acids in them---look on the bottle

if you are using enzymes.

you don't want to over dose with HCL---it will cause stomach

problems big time if you take too much or take on a empty stomach--

NEVER take on empty.

and if you take enzymes look on the bottle before you go out and buy

HCL seperately because it's ususally added into the mix.

And only take if you know for sure you don't produce enough acid and

that is usually one is over 45 and you have been tested.

A lot of over the counter drugs can do great harm!!!!!!!!!! do your

homework always!!!!!!!!

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: tina83862<mailto:tina83862@y...>

> To:

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:25 PM

> Subject: Re:Interesting wormwood links

>

>

>

> I use Bentaine HCL but only when I eat a very large, heavy

protein

> meal (and that is not many because of the GB) of course. So I

wonder

> if this does help with parasites???

> -The main immune defense of that which we put into our

mouths is the stomach acidity. Low HCL is a main culprit not only

in improper protein digestion of foods but also improper protein

digestion of foreign buggers. (not an enzyme in the normal

definition)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So true!!!!!

Another test is to drink lemon juice with water and if that relieves

your heartburn than you know it's from lack of acid.

Leaky gut is also a very big issue to check into.

I also agree I had heartburn and stomach issues before the

gallstones from lack of acid!!!

great post!!

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: tina83862<mailto:tina83862@y...>

> > To:

> gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

> > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:25 PM

> > Subject: Re:Interesting wormwood links

> >

> >

> >

> > I use Bentaine HCL but only when I eat a very large, heavy

> protein

> > meal (and that is not many because of the GB) of course. So

I

> wonder

> > if this does help with parasites???

> > -The main immune defense of that which we put into our

> mouths is the stomach acidity. Low HCL is a main culprit not

only

> in improper protein digestion of foods but also improper protein

> digestion of foreign buggers. (not an enzyme in the normal

> definition)

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

reprise...

Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 11:24:29 -0800

From: aelewis@...

gallstones

Subject: Re: Pumpkin seeds... [wormwood, anbsinthe]

> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 05:36:37 -0000

> From: " Will Winter " <holistic@...>

> Subject: Re: Pumpkin seeds and liver cleansing

>

> I would recommend readers think twice about using the strong

> herbal wormers (herbal pesticides) such as WORMWOOD and BLACK

> WALNUT HULLS. These are two of the most poisonous and toxic

> herbs in the business. The liver is just one of the many

> organs they can destroy, the brain is another one. Wormwood is

> the herb used to make absinthe, for example.

It is not perfectly clear whether or not wormwood is actually

toxic in amounts that one might actually consume in e.g.

absinthe (the drink). It probably isn't.

Of course it is possible to tox-out on anything when taken in

high concentration in pills or capsules. But palatal ingestion

of the stuff has a built-in limitation: EXTREME bitterness. By

that mode, no one could tolerate amounts that would be toxic,

or so it seems to me.

See:

http://bob.bob.bofh.org/absinthe/bibliography/absfaq.html

Absinthe FAQ

by Baggott (bagg@...)

February 3, 1993

Also:

http://web109.net/herbs/detail.cfm/natural/27026/

Absinthe Herb Cut & Sifted (Artemisia absinthium) 1 lb: K

This is Frontier's nitrogen-flushed double wall silverfoil

pack. Some Frontier packs are double wall wax-lined paper.

Absinthe is traditionally used as a tea, a strong decoction, a

smoke or as an alcoholic extract, a liqueur. The 1997

Commission E on Phytotherapy and Herbal Substances of the

German Federal Institute for Drugs recommends absinthe for

'Loss of appetite, dyspepsia, biliary dyskinesia. Daily

dosage: 2 - 3 g of herb as water infusion. Mode of

Administration: Cut herb for infusions and decoctions, herb

powder, also extracts and tinctures as liquid or solid forms

of medication for oral administration.' Yes, absinthe is an

inebriating pipeful - its psychoactive thujones seem to bind

to the same receptor as THC. Several species of Artemisia are

also smoked for visionary effect by some Indian tribes. Edgar

Poe loved it, and lookit what he did. A user writes:

'The effect was extremely pleasant, although I would not list

absinthe as a psychedelic. It definitely belongs in terms of

subjective effects to the solvent/nitrous oxide category,

although pharmacologically very different. The following day I

felt very lethargic, but it is hard to say if it was due to

the absinthe since we stayed up pretty late that night. My

conclusion: I give it two thumbs up, but would not drink it

more than occasionally since it is reported as neurotoxic.'

Although the oil destroys various types of worms, long-term

use, due to the mildly toxic thujones, is not recommended.

Ordinary wormwood teas or tinctures, however, contain very

little thujone, and are considered safe for short-term use.

Wormwood is safe enough to be recommended by the German

Commission E (see below). Also present in the plant are strong

bitter agents known as absinthin and anabsinthin. These

stimulate digestive function, including gall bladder function.

Grieve's classic 'A Modern Herbal': 'The chief constituent is

a volatile oil, of which the herb yields in distillation from

0.5 to 1.0 per cent. It is usually dark green, or sometimes

blue in colour, and has a strong odour and bitter, acrid

taste. The oil contains thujone (absinthol or tenacetone),

thujyl alcohol (both free and combined with acetic,

isovalerianic, succine and malic acids), cadinene,

phellandrene and pinene. The herb also contains the bitter

glucoside absinthin, absinthic acid, together with tannin,

resin, starch, nitrate of potash and other salts.' Medicinal

Action and Uses: Tonic, stomachic, febrifuge, anthelmintic. 'A

nervine tonic, particularly helpful against the falling

sickness and for flatulence. It is a good remedy for enfeebled

digestion and debility.' .....

...... I wonder if the health benefits have more to do with

tonifying the liver than with any putative vermifuge effects.

(?)

Wormwood may be the best single hepatic/tonic bitter herb --

powerful stuff, to be used in great moderation (which the

revolting taste will strongly re-inforce!). Read the FAQ

sited above for a complete, critical examination of the

(probably largely non-existent) " toxicity " issue.

It appears to have the added benefit of giving a pleasant

buzz. :-)

Alan

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[Guest guest]

this lemon drink is to see if your heartburn is from too much acid

or too little is just a Test. --heartburn goes away after drinking

lemon with water--not enough acid-- as in my case.

And I have to say it's better to know this than take proton pump

inhibitors for the rest of your life which does the opposite causes

even less acid to be produced but it does heal the stomach/throat

from the irritation from the acid reflux.

http://www.medicinenet.com/proton-pump_inhibitors/article.htm

So it's good for the short term to use( which is why most doctors

give you a short supply) until you heal and then you must look at

why you have heartburn in the first place.

Letting this go without treatment on the other hand can lead to

eroisive esophagus which is not good besides being painful. (many

say allowing an open wound can lead to cancer being formed)

So what do you do take PPI's forever or try and figure out why you

don't make enough acid.

I could look at diet --which I am mostly cook myself, could be

partly getting older--menopause approaching? too much coffee, wine?

Stress in our lives ect.

As for meats and fats--just a fyi one of the funny things we find in

adrenal fatigue people is a lack of protein--and why? protein

supports the adrenals and many of our members who are purely

vegatarians have this problem.

And yet another problem for thyorid people is too much soy which

inhibits the thyroid binding molecule. (even MD's now tell thyroid

people to avoid soy)

And for fats---cholesterol numbers under 160 can indicate you are

not producing enough to help in the transport of hormones. Many of

adrenal fatigue people will have low lipid profiles.

The problem here is that when we emit a food source of any kind we

find a disease state attached. And when we over eat that food source

we find disease again.

as always everything has to be in balance. As for red meat--one of

the best sources of iron/protein--to much and we have

hemochromatosis and that effects mostly men (too much iron) and let

me say if you are worried about rusting out too much iron for men is

very dangerous. For us pre-menopausal women we are safe.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/hemochromatosis.html

If you have this condition--donating blood once in a while helps big

time!!!!!!

So back to acids why do we make less at times in our lives??

Hormones can also be a reason why as well as low iodine levels---

both affect the digestive system.

Balance can be thrown off by stress as well. Very difficult for us

to stay in balance especially as we age.

tina

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: tina83862<mailto:tina83862@y...>

> > > > To:

> > > gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

> > > > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:25 PM

> > > > Subject: Re:Interesting wormwood links

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I use Bentaine HCL but only when I eat a very large,

heavy

> > > protein

> > > > meal (and that is not many because of the GB) of course.

So

> > I

> > > wonder

> > > > if this does help with parasites???

> > > > -The main immune defense of that which we put into

our

> > > mouths is the stomach acidity. Low HCL is a main culprit not

> > only

> > > in improper protein digestion of foods but also improper

protein

> > > digestion of foreign buggers. (not an enzyme in the normal

> > > definition)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >