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I just went through a tough month of wondering if I am gonna die,

stomach pain. Ultrasound reveals gallstones. I was ready to get my

gallbladder taken out until a few minutes ago when I saw all of these

sites that say removal is a bad idea.

What am I supposed to do first to get rid of this pain and these

stones? Where can I get these cleansing supplies?

Hurting here, please help. Thanks.

Ricky, 33yrs

Louisiana

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Ricky,

In my humble opinion, having your gall bladder removed is sometimes the wisest

thing to do. Every situation and person is different. Are you having fever? Has

the

doctor insisted on immediate removal? I guess not, or you wouldn't be emailing!

Many years ago, my doctor told me that as long as I could stand the pain and

didn't

have a fever, that I could keep my gall bladder. I finally got to the point that

I thought I

couldn't stand it anymore (I had been dealing with that pain for 10 years) and

decided

in November to have it out in December over the Christmas vacation. It seems

that

making that decision gave me some comfort of an unexplained sort. Mental stress

does play a part in the attacks. I didn't have another attack and so I've kept

my gall

bladder nearly 40 years after the pain started. I have had two minor attacks in

all

those intervening years. I have not done any cleansings. I relied on yogurt,

lecithin

and ox bile supplement to get me thru the worst. I don't think the ox bile is

available

any longer. That helped a lot, though!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know where to buy all the supplies, so you'll have to rely on someone

else for

that. I will pray for you. Read, read and read some more, decide which sources

are

reliable (not all of what you read is true) then make your decision with the

best

information you have.

All my best to you,

Kathleen

On 3 Dec 2005 at 4:21, thirstydragon2001 wrote:

> I just went through a tough month of wondering if I am gonna die,

> stomach pain. Ultrasound reveals gallstones. I was ready to get my

> gallbladder taken out until a few minutes ago when I saw all of these

> sites that say removal is a bad idea.

>

> What am I supposed to do first to get rid of this pain and these

> stones? Where can I get these cleansing supplies?

>

> Hurting here, please help. Thanks.

>

> Ricky, 33yrs

> Louisiana

>

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You don't have to consume dairy to eat healthy. Some here don't.

There is a wealth of information on the www.westonaprice.org site.

Cod liver oil comes in gelcaps, making it easier to take!

Homemade sourdough bread is a hit in my house, you can start out

with just half whole wheat flour and half organic white flour. I

use King Arthur Flour in my baking sometimes, it has barley malt

added, which conditions the dough nicely. You can get sourdough

starter at www.amazon.com if you cannot find it locally and don't

want to start your own.

Bone broth is another goodie - from fish heads from the local fish

market is good, also from organic bones, like chicken or beef but

stay away from factory-farmed bones as they can contain a lot of

fluoride which interferes with iodine uptake and can inhibit the

thyroid. Bone broth is a natural source of glucosamine/chondroitin,

too, so very good for achy joints!

Soaking the rice before you cook it is another nice baby-step. Just

put it in to soak in the morning and it cooks up in no time when

it's time for supper. I measure out the water and soak it in that

so I don't have to adjust the recipe for the water the rice has

absorbed while soaking.

The trick to getting the family on board is to shift them gradually

and find healthy things they like. Substitute when you can, and

preach when you have to. :) Saying to your husband something

like " Look honey, this says eating too much soy can make you grow

breasts " might get his attention. :o)

--- In , " sewmissy2 " <id4umo@...>

wrote:

>

> Okay, I am finally getting down to writing you about what this

site is

> all about.. I have read most of the book Nourising Traditions. I

am

> absolutely overwhelmed. I have found some sources for raw dairy

all

> about an hours drive from me. I still haven't gotten a day when I

can

> go get some.

>

> I know I can't change everything all at once. I have been

completely

> dairy free for 3 1/2 years because of my joint pain. But I am

ready

> to try some RAW milk and see if I can tolerate that. Going dairy

free

> helped my joints a lot..and it is a little scary to go back to

that.

>

> What would you all suggest for me to start with. And I do have to

say

> that my husband and 19 year old daughter will not be willing to

give

> up sugar and white flour. So a lot of this will be me only. I

won't

> push it on them..but hope I can improve their diets at least

some.

> Missy

>

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These are some very good ideas. Thank you! Now to get some good

bones..we don't have fish markets in SW Missouri that I know of.

but I can get some pasture raised beef, lamb, chickens and turkeys.

I guess that is the next step for me. The bone broth sounds like a

good thing for me with my joints. Fish broth sounds very

nasty..someone please reassure me!

My husband does not eat soy..so the breast thing wouldn't fly ;)

I'll have to think of one for the sugar he eats so much of..

Missy

--- In , " haecklers " <haecklers@...>

wrote:

>

> You don't have to consume dairy to eat healthy. Some here don't.

> There is a wealth of information on the www.westonaprice.org site.

>

> Cod liver oil comes in gelcaps, making it easier to take!

>

> Homemade sourdough bread is a hit in my house, you can start out

> with just half whole wheat flour and half organic white flour. I

> use King Arthur Flour in my baking sometimes, it has barley malt

> added, which conditions the dough nicely. You can get sourdough

> starter at www.amazon.com if you cannot find it locally and don't

> want to start your own.

>

> Bone broth is another goodie - from fish heads from the local fish

> market is good, also from organic bones, like chicken or beef but

> stay away from factory-farmed bones as they can contain a lot of

> fluoride which interferes with iodine uptake and can inhibit the

> thyroid. Bone broth is a natural source of

glucosamine/chondroitin,

> too, so very good for achy joints!

>

> Soaking the rice before you cook it is another nice baby-step.

Just

> put it in to soak in the morning and it cooks up in no time when

> it's time for supper. I measure out the water and soak it in that

> so I don't have to adjust the recipe for the water the rice has

> absorbed while soaking.

>

> The trick to getting the family on board is to shift them

gradually

> and find healthy things they like. Substitute when you can, and

> preach when you have to. :) Saying to your husband something

> like " Look honey, this says eating too much soy can make you grow

> breasts " might get his attention. :o)

>

>

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> If you want to learn fermenting, Sandor Katz's book " Wild

> Fermentation " is fantastic.

Seconded.

> By the way, if your kids don't eat plain

> yogurt, you can stir in melted jam for fruit flavor, or maple syrup.

> At least they'll be getting the good dairy!

My kids always eat it with jam, maple syrup or honey. I'm the only one

who can eat it " straight, " apparently.

Lynn S.

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http://www.siprelle.com

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