Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 In a message dated 12/19/02 5:48:20 PM Central Standard Time, mom2deux@... writes: > I seem to recall someone on this list saying that one > should use smooth, commercial peanut butter like > Skippy's, and not natural/organic. Maybe it was mentioned on this list but in the Dos & Don't's of Diet that Dr. G gave me last week, it doesn't mention anything about this. I'd think if you can handle peanuts, you'd want the natural form, rather than all the trash they put in the other stuff, especially since Dr. G is pretty clear on limiting sugars. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 In a message dated 12/19/02 8:15:58 PM Central Standard Time, sfglover@... writes: > From what I understand, the more processed a food is, the less likely it is > to cause a big reaction. This is why Dr. G says our kids can have Cheerios > and Wonder Bread, etc. in small amounts. I guess the foods become less > recognizable to the immune system if they are ground to a pulp! > As I understand him on this, he says if you need to use bread or some sort of grain to get protien into your child, choose a heavily processed one because it does not have all of the parts of the grain and, according to him, the nutritious part of the grain that is often processed out of white bread tends to be the more allergenic. Don't assume that just because it is processed your child will not react to it. Sometimes a kid will react more to the stuff they put in the processed food. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 , From what I understand, the more processed a food is, the less likely it is to cause a big reaction. This is why Dr. G says our kids can have Cheerios and Wonder Bread, etc. in small amounts. I guess the foods become less recognizable to the immune system if they are ground to a pulp! Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 In a message dated 12/20/02 4:13:16 AM Central Standard Time, donnaaron@... writes: > ? Dr. Goldberg explained to me that the natural peanut butter (and all > natural nut butters, for that matter) are unprocessed and therefore full of > offending substances (allergens), just like unprocessed, whole grain > products. 50/Fifty (or maybe it's Fifty/50) makes a smooth, processed > peanut butter without sugar. So do they put some sort of other filler in to reduce the peanut content? If not, I don't understand how processing peanut butter, which would just be grinding it alot I'd assume would make a difference as to whether you'd react to it or not. Or does processing peanut butter changing the chemical make-up of the molecule somehow? Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Gaylen, That is true... our kids are so different and something that does not bother one child at all may throw one kid off in a major way (for instance, in our case, yellow and blue dyes... no more brightly colored birthday cakes!). We did ask Dr. Goldberg specifically about peanut butter, though, and he was very clear that he preferred for us to use the more processed type because he felt it was less likely to cause a problem. Of course, if there was something in it that threw our son off, we would not use it. We had thought we were being so health conscious to use the " healthy " peanut butter. Caroline > On 12/20/02 12:40 AM, " googahly@... " <googahly@...> wrote: > Don't assume that just because it is processed your child will not react to > it. Sometimes a kid will react more to the stuff they put in the processed > food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 In a message dated 12/20/02 4:29:00 PM Central Standard Time, thecolemans4@... writes: > One extra thing to consider about the natural peanut > butter is the fact that if it is unprocessed and > unpreserved, it is at high risk of containing molds > which you would not be able to detect, and this is > regardless of whether the health food store keeps > their peanuts refrigerated or not. That makes the most sense with this recommendation. As I understand it, peanuts in particular can be the worst of all nuts for fungus and mold -- not sure why. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 My kids test in the middle range for peanuts in the meridian test. Do you think they can have it? Barb My son also tested in the middle range. Dr. Goldberg said it was okay, but I give him sunflower butter instead. He tested completely negative for that. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 So do they put some sort of other filler in to reduce the peanut content? If not, I don't understand how processing peanut butter, which would just be grinding it alot I'd assume would make a difference as to whether you'd react to it or not. Or does processing peanut butter changing the chemical make-up of the molecule somehow? Gaylen >>Honestly, I don't know the answer to that question, but processed peanut butter does contain many more ingredients than natural peanut butter. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was heated to kill off moulds and bacteria, but I don't know that for sure. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 I know we talked about peanut butter not so long ago and found that it is not easily digested and goes rancid quickly. But I found that Sally uses it in her recipes. She has crispy peanuts and makes nut butter with them. Would that be still not so good? Sorry for bringing that up again. P.S.: Had curds and cream for dessert last night, it was delicious. I let milk sour for 2 days, then strained it through cheesecloth and served the curds with cream and a little nutmeg. Just like my great- grandma did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 , Just remember to use the really processed stuff (i.e. Jif, Skippy, etc.) rather than the " healthy " variety. Dr. Goldberg recommends this with peanut butter because the more processed it is, the less likely it is to bother our kids. It's the same reasoning as why we use the processed white breads. Caroline > As for fat and calories, I don't have a lot to suggest except peanut butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 I would say the problem is the processing. It creates lots of allergens, right? http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993869 > Is there something wrong with store-bought peanut butter that doesn't > have HOs in it, like ? It's just peanuts. > > Lynn S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 you mean the bulk peanuts in the hfs are not raw? they are roasted? A long while back someone posted a mail-order source of peanuts that were supposedly mold-free. wish i could remember it. elaine > Does anyone know a source for raw peanuts that are NOT Spanish? > Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 Lynn- Peanuts, unfortunately, are a very poor food to begin with, but you also have to worry about pesticides and afflatoxin. >Is there something wrong with store-bought peanut butter that doesn't >have HOs in it, like ? It's just peanuts. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 , I think PB would be OK if there aren't nut allergies in the family... since it's OK on the diet... Dr. G did tell me that the PROCESSED peanut butter would be " safer " than the more natural kind. (Of course if a child seems to react to it, I'm sure he would have some individual advice for that particular case). I was really just using peanut butter as an example of something that scientists are thinking may be able to cause problems for a fetus inutero. If I can ever find the article I want to post about peanut butter, I think you'll find it interesting... it's one of the things I lost when we turned our upstairs into a " storage unit " after the flood. It's around here somewhere! Re: tomatoes, I'm not sure on that one. Caroline > On 8/23/03 9:47 PM, " J & C Chile & Wonderwegian " <carriecox@...> wrote: > Caroline- > Is the peanut butter bad even if no one in the family has nut allergies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 I am wondering about the high fat content in peanut butter and if it has triggered an attack for anyone. I have always eaten Scutters (sorry about spelling) all natural it may be under a different name in other parts of the US. It is the kind you have to stir apon opening the first time and must be refridgerated there after. I have read reports of studies that suggest peanuts and peanut butter may help reduce the chances of gallbladder problems but nothing is stated about folks avoiding it if you already have problems. I know everyone is different and I have been adding a new food everyday this week after coming off of clear liquid diet. I have only had scant about of fat this week and wondering what a tiny amount of p/b on toast might do to me *s* Thanks, Stacie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 > I am wondering about the high fat content in peanut butter and if it > has triggered an attack for anyone. Hi Stacie, It always triggers an attack in me. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Peanut butter cravings is a sure sign of needing protein many of our adrenal insufficent people will tell us how much peanut butter they consume---it's funny that they all do this.-- I have links on it somewhere--but peanut butter is one of the worst things you can eat --any other nut is better (almonds-walnuts) Try adding more fish to your diet that may help. also if your peanut butter has sugar in it that will also bring your glucose levels up and this is also why adrenal fatigue people eat it. They tend to be hypoglycemic as well. as for the fat content---yes I can't eat it either and have not for many years now. The only fats I'll eat are avacado, eggs (once a week) with a tiny bit of butter--red meat (maybe once a week), low fat milk, some fish, olive oil in my salad (very little)--- I stay away from cheese, processed foods (big time)---junk food. I find if I have a fatty meal I am in a lot of pain later on. I have to really watch. Alot of this has to do with the amount of stones you may have. If you don't have many your GB will produce the bile needed for digestion and you are somewhat safe--but if your GB is pretty clogged up you will have pain if it needs to produce a lot of bile for a big fatty meal-- After a cleanse I am pretty good for a few months and then I hate to say this it does come back for me because I must do more cleanses. It can take a while to get the majority of stones out. The diet change should help prevent new stones from forming but we still have the old stones to deal with in most cases. In archives/past posts here many will tell you how long it took for them to be stone free. And many are much more successful at this. The average time frame seems to be close to a year and I would say at least 6 flushes on upward from my readings. tina --- In gallstones , " Amy " <thundershowers@,t...> wrote: > > > I am wondering about the high fat content in peanut butter and if it > > has triggered an attack for anyone. > > Hi Stacie, > > It always triggers an attack in me. > > Amy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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