Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I was told by my doctor that I should not worry about having sugar free or low calorie drinks and fluids right after getting banded. You need to get calories in you somehow since you aren't on solid foods. Once you start solids then you can go back to sugar free and low calorie items. Not sure if this is the norm, but this is what my doctor suggested. Christi (happily banded 3/38/05) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 > > Hi- My name is Sylvia and I was banded on 7/1/05. I went for my > post-op > > on 7-7 and had lost 8 pounds I since have not lost a pound ( I > don't > > think) What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Thursday, August 10, 2006, 7:11:59 AM, you wrote: > Hi all, > I got my band put on yesterday, not nearly as sore as I thought I > would be,wooooohooooo, I wanted to say thanks to all of you who answer > peoples questions, wether you know it or not you helped me through > making this decission, knowing that there was this kind of support out > there made my choice alot easier. I know in the comming weeks and > months I will have lots of questions and I know I will get honest > answers just from reading the previous posts. > Thank you all again for being there Welcome, Andy. Let us know more about you, such as age, ht, wt, any special issues, where banded and by whom, etc. Those all help us with the answers to questions. I can't do much with the questions from someone saying " what can I eat? " when I know nothing about the person, where they are in the band journey, etc. I gather you joined the group some time ago, and that's fine. And I thank you for not asking the " pre banded questions " (which I wouldn't have approved anyway) that we avoid here since many other groups do that very well, and we're here just for " after banding questions and support " . If you've not seen my webpage about banding from a guy's point of view, it may help give some answers....or not. cheers dan -- Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 323/209/199 Age 63 The road goes on forever..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Hi, Andy - Glad you're here! I think you'll find, as we all did, that most of teh teaching and practical things we need to know come mostly from other Bandsters. Please don't hesitate to ask about anything at all - lots of people here happy to help and guide you, and then maybe you can help guide others coming after you. Sandy R > > Hi all, > I got my band put on yesterday, not nearly as sore as I thought I > would be,wooooohooooo, I wanted to say thanks to all of you who answer > peoples questions, wether you know it or not you helped me through > making this decission, knowing that there was this kind of support out > there made my choice alot easier. I know in the comming weeks and > months I will have lots of questions and I know I will get honest > answers just from reading the previous posts. > Thank you all again for being there > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 > > > Hi all, > > I got my band put on yesterday, not nearly as sore as I thought I > > would be,wooooohooooo, I wanted to say thanks to all of you who answer > > peoples questions, wether you know it or not you helped me through > > making this decission, knowing that there was this kind of support out > > there made my choice alot easier. I know in the comming weeks and > > months I will have lots of questions and I know I will get honest > > answers just from reading the previous posts. > > Thank you all again for being there > > Welcome, Andy. Let us know more about you, such as age, ht, wt, any > special issues, where banded and by whom, etc. Those all help us with > the answers to questions. I can't do much with the questions from > someone saying " what can I eat? " when I know nothing about the person, > where they are in the band journey, etc. > > I gather you joined the group some time ago, and that's fine. And I > thank you for not asking the " pre banded questions " (which I wouldn't > have approved anyway) that we avoid here since many other groups do > that very well, and we're here just for " after banding questions and > support " . > > If you've not seen my webpage about banding from a guy's point of > view, it may help give some answers....or not. > > cheers > > dan > > -- > Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk > Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 > 323/209/199 Age 63 The road goes on forever..... > OK, maybe I jumped the gun a little there with the not as sore as I thought id be, tip #1, dont let the pain meds wear off.....wow About me, well, Im a 41 year old husband and father of 3, grandfather of 1, I work for " big oil " and no, I dont know why gas prices are so high....lol, I live near Cincinnati and I had my surgery at the Cincinnati weight loss clinic, Dr. Brad Osbourne. I am 5'11 and I weighed 316, dropped 20 lbs for the surgery and I dont own a scale so I can only weigh myself at drs. appointments. I plan on attending the group sessions that the Drs. office puts together the 2nd Monday of each month, I just purchased the Bowflex and plan on working out, starting off slow within 2 weeks, I have a horrible family health history, from morbid obesity to heart attacks, by pass surgery, diabetes, early deaths, father at 46, sister at 39. I am in generally good health, besides the weight, no daily medicines, active, quit drinking (about 4 months ago)I do smoke, 2 packs a day, hopefully now I will be able to quit and not gain 20lbs. I do have a pinched nerve in my hip from the weight, it seems to get better with weight loss, the orthopedic dr. says 2 years after weight loss should be back to normal, and I have sleep apnea for which I wear a CPAP. I am highly motivated to lose this weight, 175-180 is my goal, by this time next year. Thats me in a nutshell Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2006 Report Share Posted August 11, 2006 Hi Andy, comments below. By the way, great name. My son is Andy, and I wish he and his wife would get bands....but of course I don't say anything about it to them. More below. Friday, August 11, 2006, 7:34:54 AM, you wrote: > OK, maybe I jumped the gun a little there with the not as sore as I > thought id be, tip #1, dont let the pain meds wear off.....wow This too shall pass. > About me, well, Im a 41 year old husband and father of 3, > grandfather of 1, I work for " big oil " and no, I dont know why gas > prices are so high....lol, I live near Cincinnati and I had my > surgery at the Cincinnati weight loss clinic, Dr. Brad Osbourne. > I am 5'11 and I weighed 316, dropped 20 lbs for the surgery and I > dont own a scale so I can only weigh myself at drs. appointments. That's fine. Some weigh rarely, others regularly. Main problem with regularly is it can make you crazy, if you let it. (I use a graphing program that shows the daily weights, plus a 7 day moving average, which for me is one of the best ten bucks I ever spent) > I plan on attending the group sessions that the Drs. office puts > together the 2nd Monday of each month, That's great, at least if they're all bandsters. If, like many groups, most are bypass patients, then it'll probably suck badly, and they'll try to tell you all sorts of stuff to do, or not do, which are irrelevant to a bandster. They'll also give you crap because they're losing weight faster. > I just purchased the Bowflex > and plan on working out, starting off slow within 2 weeks, That's good. Do whatever you can as quickly as you can. Start walking NOW if you haven't already. Even if it is just around the house or around the block, that is VERY important. Bowflex is fine (though I'm a gym rat and prefer free weights). But be sure to also get aerobic exercise (walking or biking now or very soon, more vigorous later). You need both types. > I have a > horrible family health history, from morbid obesity to heart > attacks, by pass surgery, diabetes, early deaths, father at 46, > sister at 39. Sorry to hear all of that. My father died of cancer at 40, one sister the same way at 52, one brother a couple months ago at 57, again cancer. As noted above, my grown kids, and also several siblings, are obese. I'm one who is sure there's a genetic component for many/most, but also how we're raised. I'm old enough to have heard " they're starving in India, so clean your plate " . I was stupid enough once to tell my dad to send it to India....but only once! > I am in generally good health, besides the weight, no > daily medicines, active, quit drinking (about 4 months ago)I do > smoke, 2 packs a day, hopefully now I will be able to quit and not > gain 20lbs. Glad to see you quit drinking. My wife and I are both recovering alcoholics (20 years for her, 16 for me), and we even met in AA. The smoking is tough to quit, I know. I never got started because of lots of allergies and frequent bronchitis (well, smoked maybe a couple cartons in college before realizing that it was VERY Bad for me personally). I believe the stats will show that smoking is the only thing that kills even more people than obesity, so hope you can get rid of that one. Food is the real bitch, as it IS possible to never have another drink, or another smoke, but you have to meet the devilbitch of food at least three times a day.....and she's mean. > I do have a pinched nerve in my hip from the weight, it seems to get > better with weight loss, the orthopedic dr. says 2 years after > weight loss should be back to normal, and I have sleep apnea for > which I wear a CPAP. Yes, that should help with the hip. Also, it just MAY let you get rid of the CPAP. I got rid of mine five years before banding by having surgery...which was MUCH worse than band surgery, and even worse than the tummytuck. > I am highly motivated to lose this weight, 175-180 is my goal, by > this time next year. Thats me in a nutshell > Andy I personally think your goal is too low, even though that would put your BMI below 25 and thus make you " normal " . You can see I've not made it to " normal " , and probably never will....for a host of reasons. And that's fine with me. I do recommend setting " mini goals " of 275, 250, or whatever works for you. That helps me a lot. cheers dan -- Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 323/209/199 Age 63 The road goes on forever..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2006 Report Share Posted August 12, 2006 Andy, thanks for sharing more about you! You have many good reasons for wanting to lose -kids, grandkids, wife, and YOU! You have a lot of living to catch up on, when you are no longer sidelined by your obesity. Your plans sound great - but maybe ask your doc about using the bowflex within 2 weeks. Most docs don't allow any abdominal exercise (inluding reaching and stretching) for 6 weeks, until, the port in teh belly is well healed. (Or manybe your port is elsewhere). You can start exerecise now, with a daily 30-60 min walk. no reason at all to wait for 2 weeks for this. Glad you're here - welcome to your new and much healthier life! Sandy R. at goal > > > > > Hi all, > > > I got my band put on yesterday, not nearly as sore as I thought > I > > > would be,wooooohooooo, I wanted to say thanks to all of you who > answer > > > peoples questions, wether you know it or not you helped me > through > > > making this decission, knowing that there was this kind of > support out > > > there made my choice alot easier. I know in the comming weeks and > > > months I will have lots of questions and I know I will get > honest > > > answers just from reading the previous posts. > > > Thank you all again for being there > > > > Welcome, Andy. Let us know more about you, such as age, ht, wt, > any > > special issues, where banded and by whom, etc. Those all help us > with > > the answers to questions. I can't do much with the questions from > > someone saying " what can I eat? " when I know nothing about the > person, > > where they are in the band journey, etc. > > > > I gather you joined the group some time ago, and that's fine. And > I > > thank you for not asking the " pre banded questions " (which I > wouldn't > > have approved anyway) that we avoid here since many other groups do > > that very well, and we're here just for " after banding questions > and > > support " . > > > > If you've not seen my webpage about banding from a guy's point of > > view, it may help give some answers....or not. > > > > cheers > > > > dan > > > > -- > > Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@ www.mylapband.tk > > Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03 > > 323/209/199 Age 63 The road goes on forever..... > > > OK, maybe I jumped the gun a little there with the not as sore as I > thought id be, tip #1, dont let the pain meds wear off.....wow > About me, well, Im a 41 year old husband and father of 3, > grandfather of 1, I work for " big oil " and no, I dont know why gas > prices are so high....lol, I live near Cincinnati and I had my > surgery at the Cincinnati weight loss clinic, Dr. Brad Osbourne. > I am 5'11 and I weighed 316, dropped 20 lbs for the surgery and I > dont own a scale so I can only weigh myself at drs. appointments. > I plan on attending the group sessions that the Drs. office puts > together the 2nd Monday of each month, I just purchased the Bowflex > and plan on working out, starting off slow within 2 weeks, I have a > horrible family health history, from morbid obesity to heart > attacks, by pass surgery, diabetes, early deaths, father at 46, > sister at 39. I am in generally good health, besides the weight, no > daily medicines, active, quit drinking (about 4 months ago)I do > smoke, 2 packs a day, hopefully now I will be able to quit and not > gain 20lbs. > I do have a pinched nerve in my hip from the weight, it seems to get > better with weight loss, the orthopedic dr. says 2 years after > weight loss should be back to normal, and I have sleep apnea for > which I wear a CPAP. > I am highly motivated to lose this weight, 175-180 is my goal, by > this time next year. Thats me in a nutshell > Andy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I did well with the surgery. I flew from CA to MI to have the surgery had done at MOSS at Harper Hospital. I arrived on Wed., had the surgery on Thursday, spent Thursday in the hospital, Friday in the hospital guest housing and flew home on Saturday. So far I really have no complaints, I did read all the links you had posted to the group and found the suggestion about raising the bed, I am going to see if I can get this done tomorrow. I am already having trouble with thinking about food, I knew it would happen but I thought it would be a few more days post surgery before it happened. I have a therapist and I see her tomorrow so I will start working on this issue. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I flew so far for one simple reason........money! My insurance wouldn't cover the surgery, they have been jerking me around for 18 months mean while I just kept gaining weight and my health was slowly going down hill. MOSS had a special the surgery was $11,700 and that included $300 towards airfare. Everything was arranged for me transportation to and from the airport, the guest housing everything. All I had to do was make the flight arrangements and let them know the information. The cost was at least half of what they wanted in CA to do the surgery. I did my research on the doctors, the hospital, and the clinic and felt comfortable with everything I found out. I will be going back to MI for fills for the first year, they are free and the cost of a plane ticket is the almost the same as paying someone here in CA to do the fill. Hopefully my need for post op care will minimal and I have phone numbers to contact the doctor and two patent felicitator. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Hi, Dawn! Welcome! I've never heard of being asked to lay at a 45 degree angle, but I would guess it's to avoid the reflux we can have tenmporily after surgery, from a swollen and tight stoma. Just Do the best you can. Even better than trying to lay at a 45 degree angle is actually raising the head of your bed 5-6 inches on books or blocks - this allows your body and neck to be flat, but still properly elevated. The stoma will be swollen for a few days to a week or so, and will heal with a bit of time. It'a hard to tell from your brief description if this is reflux, but it sounds more like the normal swelling. With reflux, there is usually burning, and a feeling of fluid coming back inno your throat. Sometimes it can even come all the way back into the mouth, and burns the tissues there too. I'd give it a few more days, as long as you ar able to get enough fluids down - about 48 oz a day is the absolute MINimum, and more like 100m oz a day is ideal. If you're dehydrated at all, the stomach acid is more concentrated and so more caustic. Hope this helps - Which doc did u choose? How did you do with surgery? Sandy r at goal x 3.5 yrs. > > I am only 4 days post op from having my band placed and I have a couple > of questions. > > I have felt great with the expection of some nausea when I lay down, or > roll over when I am laying down. I was told to lay at a 45 degree but > I am finding that difficult do to an old neck injury. When I lay down > I get a strange feeling in my throat I guess it feels almost like > something is twisted, once I get comfortable and lie straight it passes > until I move or first stand up. Am I just experiencing some acid > reflux? > > Thanks > Dawn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Thanks to everyone for welcoming me ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Dawn, I had this for about a week. Felt like everything was coming up, i thought I'd never be able to lay down and sleep good again. But it gfoes away. Good Luck. (winniewinn Sandy <MoonshadowRN@...> wrote: Hi, Dawn! Welcome! I've never heard of being asked to lay at a 45 degree angle, but I would guess it's to avoid the reflux we can have tenmporily after surgery, from a swollen and tight stoma. Just Do the best you can. Even better than trying to lay at a 45 degree angle is actually raising the head of your bed 5-6 inches on books or blocks - this allows your body and neck to be flat, but still properly elevated. The stoma will be swollen for a few days to a week or so, and will heal with a bit of time. It'a hard to tell from your brief description if this is reflux, but it sounds more like the normal swelling. With reflux, there is usually burning, and a feeling of fluid coming back inno your throat. Sometimes it can even come all the way back into the mouth, and burns the tissues there too. I'd give it a few more days, as long as you ar able to get enough fluids down - about 48 oz a day is the absolute MINimum, and more like 100m oz a day is ideal. If you're dehydrated at all, the stomach acid is more concentrated and so more caustic. Hope this helps - Which doc did u choose? How did you do with surgery? Sandy r at goal x 3.5 yrs. > > I am only 4 days post op from having my band placed and I have a couple > of questions. > > I have felt great with the expection of some nausea when I lay down, or > roll over when I am laying down. I was told to lay at a 45 degree but > I am finding that difficult do to an old neck injury. When I lay down > I get a strange feeling in my throat I guess it feels almost like > something is twisted, once I get comfortable and lie straight it passes > until I move or first stand up. Am I just experiencing some acid > reflux? > > Thanks > Dawn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Very interesting! There are so many excellent surgeons nea you, I'm interested in why you choser to fly so far? :-) What have you arranged for fills and post-op care? Yes, head hunger is one of the hardest issues, and one the docs rarely even mention. I found Guided Imagery to be a big help, and you might be interested in the Guided Imagery for Bandsters at www.BandsterME.com. sounds like you're doing just great! Glad you're here! Sandy r > > I did well with the surgery. I flew from CA to MI to have the surgery had > done at MOSS at Harper Hospital. I arrived on Wed., had the surgery on > Thursday, spent Thursday in the hospital, Friday in the hospital guest housing and > flew home on Saturday. So far I really have no complaints, I did read all > the links you had posted to the group and found the suggestion about raising > the bed, I am going to see if I can get this done tomorrow. > > I am already having trouble with thinking about food, I knew it would happen > but I thought it would be a few more days post surgery before it happened. > I have a therapist and I see her tomorrow so I will start working on this > issue. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I know with my first fill I felt it in my throat so maybe it is the swelling making your band feel tight. JMHO! Good luck and welcome to your new life!!!! Sometimes being a loser is a GOOD thing! 5'11 " 306 / 233 / 180 PreOp / Now/ Goal Banded 09/14/06 _________________________________________________________________ Learn.Laugh.Share. Reallivemoms is right place! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM & loc=us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Dawn, Our bands do not do anything for our head hunger, which is no hunger at all. We have to train ourselves to listen to our bands rather than our heads. Sometimes I listen to my head and it is okay to treat ourselves within reason, we are human afterall, but I still listen to my band when it is time to stop. Drinking water between meals helps with head hunger. btw, it might not feel like it right now, but you WILL eat again. Actually the first week after my banding I didn't really feel like eating. All the swelling had me not even want to eat so I had to make myself get in what I had to. Good luck and welcome to the new you! Sometimes being a loser is a GOOD thing! 5'11 " 306 / 233 / 180 PreOp / Now/ Goal Banded 09/14/06 >From: dawn2dark@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: Newly Banded >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:49:19 EDT > >I did well with the surgery. I flew from CA to MI to have the surgery had >done at MOSS at Harper Hospital. I arrived on Wed., had the surgery on >Thursday, spent Thursday in the hospital, Friday in the hospital guest >housing and >flew home on Saturday. So far I really have no complaints, I did read all >the links you had posted to the group and found the suggestion about >raising >the bed, I am going to see if I can get this done tomorrow. > >I am already having trouble with thinking about food, I knew it would >happen >but I thought it would be a few more days post surgery before it happened. >I have a therapist and I see her tomorrow so I will start working on this >issue. > > > >************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL >at >http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 Sylvia, we have our clients start with mild exercise the day they ger home - or asap. Walking, light treadmills, and light ellipticals are just fine. It's only heavy lifting (more than 10#) and heavy bending or reaching that we restrict for 4-6 weeks, until the port area is well healed. THis avoids port " flips " . Exercise and burning off more calories is a very impt part of banding - and also strengthens muscles and builds a bit of muscle, which burns fat much more efficiently - these are all important weight -loss concepts. Every doc is different, but please check with your doc about what exercises ARE allowed. Surely there are some that you can do now, to get your weight loss going, even before a good fill. Sandy r > > > Thanks for your replys- The nurse told me not to start excersising > agian for 3 months....is this normal? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 I sure understand that! :-) Many of us were self pay, and there are some very good options available. Dan and I were both self-pay, and chose Mexican docs. I chose Dr. Kuri, and Dan chose Dr. Ortiz. Both have been banding for more than 6- 8 yrs - far longer than any US doc, and are very excellent surgeons. For the people in S. Ca, the Tijuana docs, in the new and beautiful Zono Rio, are an especially great option, since they are within easy driving distance, for fills, periodic checks, and any troubles. Most give free fills for life, and the entire surgery package is around $8000-$10,000, with financing available. Most people need 3-5 fills to get to a good level, about a month apart, and then more fill periodically as we lose. In the first year, maybe 5-7 fills /unfills, but some need less, some need many more. In the second year, maybe another 3-4. That's a lot of airfare and hotels each time. The band simply doesn't work without a very good fill. " Dawn " , Do be sure you have arranged for local urgent help for any problems or unfills needed. It's not wise or safe for any of us to be so far from our docs, without pre-arranging for urgent help when needed. If we're overfilled, or otherwise in trouble, in pain and barfing, we can't be flying several hours to our docs - both unwise and very unsafe. Since fills sometimes do'n t fully settle in for 1-2 weeks, it's always possible to have an unfill that doesn't make itself known for awhile. There are many things to consider before we decide to choose a doc far away, since the Band requires such close and regular followup by our surgeons. Some places downplay this. Glad you're here! We'll help you learn the many things needed, so you can take good care of yourself and do well! Sandy R at goal x 3.5 yrs > > I flew so far for one simple reason........money! My insurance wouldn't > cover the surgery, they have been jerking me around for 18 months mean while I > just kept gaining weight and my health was slowly going down hill. MOSS had a > special the surgery was $11,700 and that included $300 towards airfare. > Everything was arranged for me transportation to and from the airport, the guest > housing everything. All I had to do was make the flight arrangements and > let them know the information. The cost was at least half of what they wanted > in CA to do the surgery. I did my research on the doctors, the hospital, and > the clinic and felt comfortable with everything I found out. > > I will be going back to MI for fills for the first year, they are free and > the cost of a plane ticket is the almost the same as paying someone here in CA > to do the fill. Hopefully my need for post op care will minimal and I have > phone numbers to contact the doctor and two patent felicitator. > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hi all, I'm from Houston and I was banded in April. I have lost 18lbs. I have had 2 fills and had some removed d/t overfill. I need some advise as to what I can eat. So far it is trial and error. The Dr. told me to eat whatever I wanted-but that is not true. I cant eat tortillas, bread, meat, rice,omelets. I learned very quickly to chew well, slowly and not drink anything till after eating or wait a while. And not to eat when stressed. For now its shakes, soups, beans, fine fideo, fish and recently salads. I tried emailing the nutritionist but no luck in gettng a reply. Please Help !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Welcome! Good eating is critical to your success, and I can't imagine a doc advisng eating whatever we want! I'm glad you're asking for better info. There are guidelines for both health and safe Band loss. Just eating less of the stuff we ate before is not the solution , since we're trying to lose SAFELY, also to regain our health lost from poor nutrition and obesity. Bread is the #1 probelm food. Bread products glom together and form a sticky mess that plugs the stoma. It's also useless nutrition ad not a good wy to take up our small pouch space. rice can do the samr, and the white rice is useless for nutrition anyway. We need to choose foods hihin nutrition, fiber, the good arbs, etc to meet nutrition needs with our small pouches. We must be able to eat solid meat, chicken, fish, pork , seafood as tat is the basis of good band eating. with a fill that is not too tight, and very careful attention to eating techniques, we whould all be able to eat solid protein. Most importsantly, we must star wit a PEA sized bite, and then chew 15x or more. eggs can be a porblem if not very moist but, still, they must be cooked enough to kill the salmonella bacteria. We need to generally AVOID all liquid calories, and that includes protein drinks. NO liquids make the band work - only solid foods. Soups, shakes, lettuce are all not so good band foods - all soft or liquids. Beans have good nutrition and fiber, but also are a soft food, so need to b accompanied by meats or other solid protein. Instead of making this a huge long post about all the eating things, I'm going to refer you to the document in the files called " Band guide " which covers eating, safety issues, and much more. Please take a look at it, and ask any questions you have. You might want to print it out, as wll as some of ther other files. the " Iron " document is imot, as well as the " Exercise " and " water " ones. glad you're here so we all can help you do well and stay safe! Lots of wise and helpful people here to share! Sandy r, band educator at goal 4.5 yrs - > > Hi all, I'm from Houston and I was banded in April. I have lost 18lbs. > I have had 2 fills and had some removed d/t overfill. I need some > advise as to what I can eat. So far it is trial and error. The Dr. told > me to eat whatever I wanted-but that is not true. I cant eat tortillas, > bread, meat, rice,omelets. I learned very quickly to chew well, slowly > and not drink anything till after eating or wait a while. And not to > eat when stressed. For now its shakes, soups, beans, fine fideo, fish > and recently salads. I tried emailing the nutritionist but no luck in > gettng a reply. Please Help !!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I was banded May 12th and have had one fill on May 29th. Before the fill, I had lost 20 pounds. Since the fill, I’ve lost another 15 pounds. I haven’t tried to eat bread but I can eat tortilla shells – soft of course. I haven’t found anything that I absolutely can’t eat. I have learned to listen to my body when it tells me I’ve taken too large of a bite or when I’m full. I tried once to take a drink to try to help a too large bite go down and found out real fast that was the wrong thing to do! Before my fill, I could eat about half of what I could eat before surgery. After the fill, I can now eat about 1/3 of what I could before, but it is way more than the ¼ cup at each meal that the doctor said I should eat. I have learned that my stomach is too small to waste filling that space with things that are either 1. Not nutritious or 2. Don’t taste good. I don’t eat salads because I don’t want to fill up on tasteless lettuce with little to no nutritional value. I did well at our family reunion over the weekend, eating things I wanted to without over eating or feeling deprived. I had a little bit of desert, but not too much. I’ve found that I am much more sensitive to salt in foods and I don’t really care for French fries anymore. I tried them twice and only ate two fries each time. They just don’t taste good to me anymore. I’ve also cut out all soda – I used to drink diet coke all day long. Now I drink water or ice tea. Here’s a question I have. I’ve kind of been waiting for the other shoe to drop, so to speak. Right now, I’m loosing weight and eating pretty much any food I want, just much smaller portions than I used to. Is this something that will end when my body “adjusts” to the band or is it just that I’ve lost most of my taste for food that is bad for me? Jen " 'For I know the plans I have for you' declares the Lord, 'plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future.' " 29:11 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of reberlanga79 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:51 AM Subject: Newly Banded Hi all, I'm from Houston and I was banded in April. I have lost 18lbs. I have had 2 fills and had some removed d/t overfill. I need some advise as to what I can eat. So far it is trial and error. The Dr. told me to eat whatever I wanted-but that is not true. I cant eat tortillas, bread, meat, rice,omelets. I learned very quickly to chew well, slowly and not drink anything till after eating or wait a while. And not to eat when stressed. For now its shakes, soups, beans, fine fideo, fish and recently salads. I tried emailing the nutritionist but no luck in gettng a reply. Please Help !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Hi, Jen - I'm wondering what band you have? Most require at least 4-6 weeks of healing before the pressure of fills can safely begin. If you lost 20# even beffore a fill, I wonder if you even needed a fill. We always want as little fill as possible to do well, never as much as we can possibly tolerate. the more fill, the more potential for problems, including the serious ones. A good band-sized meal is about 1-1.5 cups of food, or about 1200- 1500 cal, for most women. It's not possible to meet nutrition goals for safe loss or good health in less than that, I've found. there a are health goals for protein, fiber, the good carbs, the essential good fats and oils for heart health and good cholesterol, and more. there is just no way to do this is tiny 1/4-1/2 cup meals. We're not simply trying to lose with yet another starvation diet - that didn't work before, and it will not work now. We need to learn new and healthier ways of losing that will STAY off this time. I suspect the docs who advise these starvation diets are mainly bypass docs and do not know the difference between baypass and band needs - with the exception of one PNW doc who is remowned for starvation diets for his bznd patients. a good fill does dim appetite and make us much less interested in food, but we still should be able to eat well and enjoy meals. I;m wondering if you are too tight? Can you eat solid protein well? Otherwise, sounds as if you're doing pretty well. The Band Guide in the files here goes over all this, if you're interested in seeing more. Please tell us a bit more about your meals.. Sandy r begun. > > I was banded May 12th and have had one fill on May 29th. Before the fill, I > had lost 20 pounds. Since the fill, I've lost another 15 pounds. I haven't > tried to eat bread but I can eat tortilla shells – soft of course. I > haven't found anything that I absolutely can't eat. I have learned to > listen to my body when it tells me I've taken too large of a bite or when > I'm full. I tried once to take a drink to try to help a too large bite go > down and found out real fast that was the wrong thing to do! Before my > fill, I could eat about half of what I could eat before surgery. After the > fill, I can now eat about 1/3 of what I could before, but it is way more > than the ¼ cup at each meal that the doctor said I should eat. > > > > I have learned that my stomach is too small to waste filling that space with > things that are either 1. Not nutritious or 2. Don't taste good. I don't > eat salads because I don't want to fill up on tasteless lettuce with little > to no nutritional value. > > > > I did well at our family reunion over the weekend, eating things I wanted to > without over eating or feeling deprived. I had a little bit of desert, but > not too much. I've found that I am much more sensitive to salt in foods and > I don't really care for French fries anymore. I tried them twice and only > ate two fries each time. They just don't taste good to me anymore. I've > also cut out all soda – I used to drink diet coke all day long. Now I drink > water or ice tea. > > > > Here's a question I have. I've kind of been waiting for the other shoe to > drop, so to speak. Right now, I'm loosing weight and eating pretty much any > food I want, just much smaller portions than I used to. Is this something > that will end when my body " adjusts " to the band or is it just that I've > lost most of my taste for food that is bad for me? > > > > Jen > > " 'For I know the plans I have for you' declares the Lord, 'plans to prosper > you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future.' " > 29:11 > > > > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of reberlanga79 > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:51 AM > > Subject: Newly Banded > > > > Hi all, I'm from Houston and I was banded in April. I have lost 18lbs. > I have had 2 fills and had some removed d/t overfill. I need some > advise as to what I can eat. So far it is trial and error. The Dr. told > me to eat whatever I wanted-but that is not true. I cant eat tortillas, > bread, meat, rice,omelets. I learned very quickly to chew well, slowly > and not drink anything till after eating or wait a while. And not to > eat when stressed. For now its shakes, soups, beans, fine fideo, fish > and recently salads. I tried emailing the nutritionist but no luck in > gettng a reply. Please Help !!!! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I can tolerate solid proteins. I have to be careful to chew well, but I haven’t found anything that I can’t tolerate if I chew well enough. I think the main reason for the 20# loss at the beginning was the liquids only for the first two weeks. I lost 3# from my 2 week appointment to my 6 week appointment when they did my first fill – 3 cc’s I think. I don’t remember what the name of my band is. I had a choice between a new kind, or the one that the doc has used for years. I chose the one he’s used for years. I almost felt guilty over the holiday weekend. I have a sister, a cousin and a cousin-in-law who all had bypass. I was able to eat anything I wanted at the reunion, just much smaller amounts than I used to. My biggest worry was making sure I had enough protein and fiber. They all had to worry about many other things and most of what was served, they were either unable to eat at all or said they would “pay for it” later. Jen " 'For I know the plans I have for you' declares the Lord, 'plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future.' " 29:11 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of moonshadow.sandy Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Newly Banded Hi, Jen - I'm wondering what band you have? Most require at least 4-6 weeks of healing before the pressure of fills can safely begin. If you lost 20# even beffore a fill, I wonder if you even needed a fill. We always want as little fill as possible to do well, never as much as we can possibly tolerate. the more fill, the more potential for problems, including the serious ones. A good band-sized meal is about 1-1.5 cups of food, or about 1200- 1500 cal, for most women. It's not possible to meet nutrition goals for safe loss or good health in less than that, I've found. there a are health goals for protein, fiber, the good carbs, the essential good fats and oils for heart health and good cholesterol, and more. there is just no way to do this is tiny 1/4-1/2 cup meals. We're not simply trying to lose with yet another starvation diet - that didn't work before, and it will not work now. We need to learn new and healthier ways of losing that will STAY off this time. I suspect the docs who advise these starvation diets are mainly bypass docs and do not know the difference between baypass and band needs - with the exception of one PNW doc who is remowned for starvation diets for his bznd patients. a good fill does dim appetite and make us much less interested in food, but we still should be able to eat well and enjoy meals. I;m wondering if you are too tight? Can you eat solid protein well? Otherwise, sounds as if you're doing pretty well. The Band Guide in the files here goes over all this, if you're interested in seeing more. Please tell us a bit more about your meals.. Sandy r begun. > > I was banded May 12th and have had one fill on May 29th. Before the fill, I > had lost 20 pounds. Since the fill, I've lost another 15 pounds. I haven't > tried to eat bread but I can eat tortilla shells – soft of course. I > haven't found anything that I absolutely can't eat. I have learned to > listen to my body when it tells me I've taken too large of a bite or when > I'm full. I tried once to take a drink to try to help a too large bite go > down and found out real fast that was the wrong thing to do! Before my > fill, I could eat about half of what I could eat before surgery. After the > fill, I can now eat about 1/3 of what I could before, but it is way more > than the ¼ cup at each meal that the doctor said I should eat. > > > > I have learned that my stomach is too small to waste filling that space with > things that are either 1. Not nutritious or 2. Don't taste good. I don't > eat salads because I don't want to fill up on tasteless lettuce with little > to no nutritional value. > > > > I did well at our family reunion over the weekend, eating things I wanted to > without over eating or feeling deprived. I had a little bit of desert, but > not too much. I've found that I am much more sensitive to salt in foods and > I don't really care for French fries anymore. I tried them twice and only > ate two fries each time. They just don't taste good to me anymore. I've > also cut out all soda – I used to drink diet coke all day long. Now I drink > water or ice tea. > > > > Here's a question I have. I've kind of been waiting for the other shoe to > drop, so to speak. Right now, I'm loosing weight and eating pretty much any > food I want, just much smaller portions than I used to. Is this something > that will end when my body " adjusts " to the band or is it just that I've > lost most of my taste for food that is bad for me? > > > > Jen > > " 'For I know the plans I have for you' declares the Lord, 'plans to prosper > you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future.' " > 29:11 > > > > From: <mailto:%40> > [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of reberlanga79 > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:51 AM > <mailto:%40> > Subject: Newly Banded > > > > Hi all, I'm from Houston and I was banded in April. I have lost 18lbs. > I have had 2 fills and had some removed d/t overfill. I need some > advise as to what I can eat. So far it is trial and error. The Dr. told > me to eat whatever I wanted-but that is not true. I cant eat tortillas, > bread, meat, rice,omelets. I learned very quickly to chew well, slowly > and not drink anything till after eating or wait a while. And not to > eat when stressed. For now its shakes, soups, beans, fine fideo, fish > and recently salads. I tried emailing the nutritionist but no luck in > gettng a reply. Please Help !!!! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Jen, Your eating sounds good then! Be sure you;re getting the iron- rich foods we need,though. Most protein foods are not good iron foods. You found what most of us did - that we want to not be limited to bypass foods, but want to be able to eat some sweets occasionally, or the other foods that cause most bypass people to " dump. " Sandy > > > > I was banded May 12th and have had one fill on May 29th. Before > the fill, I > > had lost 20 pounds. Since the fill, I've lost another 15 pounds. > I haven't > > tried to eat bread but I can eat tortilla shells – soft of course. > I > > haven't found anything that I absolutely can't eat. I have learned > to > > listen to my body when it tells me I've taken too large of a bite > or when > > I'm full. I tried once to take a drink to try to help a too large > bite go > > down and found out real fast that was the wrong thing to do! > Before my > > fill, I could eat about half of what I could eat before surgery. > After the > > fill, I can now eat about 1/3 of what I could before, but it is way > more > > than the ¼ cup at each meal that the doctor said I should eat. > > > > > > > > I have learned that my stomach is too small to waste filling that > space with > > things that are either 1. Not nutritious or 2. Don't taste good. I > don't > > eat salads because I don't want to fill up on tasteless lettuce > with little > > to no nutritional value. > > > > > > > > I did well at our family reunion over the weekend, eating things I > wanted to > > without over eating or feeling deprived. I had a little bit of > desert, but > > not too much. I've found that I am much more sensitive to salt in > foods and > > I don't really care for French fries anymore. I tried them twice > and only > > ate two fries each time. They just don't taste good to me > anymore. I've > > also cut out all soda – I used to drink diet coke all day long. Now > I drink > > water or ice tea. > > > > > > > > Here's a question I have. I've kind of been waiting for the other > shoe to > > drop, so to speak. Right now, I'm loosing weight and eating pretty > much any > > food I want, just much smaller portions than I used to. Is this > something > > that will end when my body " adjusts " to the band or is it just that > I've > > lost most of my taste for food that is bad for me? > > > > > > > > Jen > > > > " 'For I know the plans I have for you' declares the Lord, 'plans to > prosper > > you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future.' " > > > 29:11 > > > > > > > > From: > <mailto:%40> > > [mailto: > <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of reberlanga79 > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:51 AM > > > <mailto:%40> > > Subject: Newly Banded > > > > > > > > Hi all, I'm from Houston and I was banded in April. I have lost > 18lbs. > > I have had 2 fills and had some removed d/t overfill. I need some > > advise as to what I can eat. So far it is trial and error. The Dr. > told > > me to eat whatever I wanted-but that is not true. I cant eat > tortillas, > > bread, meat, rice,omelets. I learned very quickly to chew well, > slowly > > and not drink anything till after eating or wait a while. And not > to > > eat when stressed. For now its shakes, soups, beans, fine fideo, > fish > > and recently salads. I tried emailing the nutritionist but no luck > in > > gettng a reply. Please Help !!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 For breakfast, I have been eating Fiber One cereal with milk. I have seen some posts on here where people have said that they had to let the cereal soak before they could eat it. I don’t have to do that. One cup of cereal with a banana cut up into it and milk fills me up nicely for breakfast. Lunch is usually leftovers from the night before. Or sometimes I make myself some eggs with a little bit of lunch meat, cheese and tomatoes in them. If I take the kids to Mc’s, I get one grilled snack wrap and that’s all I can eat. When we go someplace nicer, like Culver’s, I get a mushroom burger with no bun. I’m able to eat about half of the burger. For dinner, I usually make chicken, fish or pork chops. I can eat a small piece with some veggies and some boiled potatoes. I have tried steak. It was very juicey and as long as I chewed it really well, I didn’t have any problems. Like I said, I haven’t tried bread, but otherwise I haven’t found anything I can’t eat as long as the portions are small and I chew it well. Jen " 'For I know the plans I have for you' declares the Lord, 'plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future.' " 29:11 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of moonshadow.sandy Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Newly Banded Hi, Jen - I'm wondering what band you have? Most require at least 4-6 weeks of healing before the pressure of fills can safely begin. If you lost 20# even beffore a fill, I wonder if you even needed a fill. We always want as little fill as possible to do well, never as much as we can possibly tolerate. the more fill, the more potential for problems, including the serious ones. A good band-sized meal is about 1-1.5 cups of food, or about 1200- 1500 cal, for most women. It's not possible to meet nutrition goals for safe loss or good health in less than that, I've found. there a are health goals for protein, fiber, the good carbs, the essential good fats and oils for heart health and good cholesterol, and more. there is just no way to do this is tiny 1/4-1/2 cup meals. We're not simply trying to lose with yet another starvation diet - that didn't work before, and it will not work now. We need to learn new and healthier ways of losing that will STAY off this time. I suspect the docs who advise these starvation diets are mainly bypass docs and do not know the difference between baypass and band needs - with the exception of one PNW doc who is remowned for starvation diets for his bznd patients. a good fill does dim appetite and make us much less interested in food, but we still should be able to eat well and enjoy meals. I;m wondering if you are too tight? Can you eat solid protein well? Otherwise, sounds as if you're doing pretty well. The Band Guide in the files here goes over all this, if you're interested in seeing more. Please tell us a bit more about your meals.. Sandy r begun. > > I was banded May 12th and have had one fill on May 29th. Before the fill, I > had lost 20 pounds. Since the fill, I've lost another 15 pounds. I haven't > tried to eat bread but I can eat tortilla shells – soft of course. I > haven't found anything that I absolutely can't eat. I have learned to > listen to my body when it tells me I've taken too large of a bite or when > I'm full. I tried once to take a drink to try to help a too large bite go > down and found out real fast that was the wrong thing to do! Before my > fill, I could eat about half of what I could eat before surgery. After the > fill, I can now eat about 1/3 of what I could before, but it is way more > than the ¼ cup at each meal that the doctor said I should eat. > > > > I have learned that my stomach is too small to waste filling that space with > things that are either 1. Not nutritious or 2. Don't taste good. I don't > eat salads because I don't want to fill up on tasteless lettuce with little > to no nutritional value. > > > > I did well at our family reunion over the weekend, eating things I wanted to > without over eating or feeling deprived. I had a little bit of desert, but > not too much. I've found that I am much more sensitive to salt in foods and > I don't really care for French fries anymore. I tried them twice and only > ate two fries each time. They just don't taste good to me anymore. I've > also cut out all soda – I used to drink diet coke all day long. Now I drink > water or ice tea. > > > > Here's a question I have. I've kind of been waiting for the other shoe to > drop, so to speak. Right now, I'm loosing weight and eating pretty much any > food I want, just much smaller portions than I used to. Is this something > that will end when my body " adjusts " to the band or is it just that I've > lost most of my taste for food that is bad for me? > > > > Jen > > " 'For I know the plans I have for you' declares the Lord, 'plans to prosper > you and not to harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future.' " > 29:11 > > > > From: <mailto:%40> > [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of reberlanga79 > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:51 AM > <mailto:%40> > Subject: Newly Banded > > > > Hi all, I'm from Houston and I was banded in April. I have lost 18lbs. > I have had 2 fills and had some removed d/t overfill. I need some > advise as to what I can eat. So far it is trial and error. The Dr. told > me to eat whatever I wanted-but that is not true. I cant eat tortillas, > bread, meat, rice,omelets. I learned very quickly to chew well, slowly > and not drink anything till after eating or wait a while. And not to > eat when stressed. For now its shakes, soups, beans, fine fideo, fish > and recently salads. I tried emailing the nutritionist but no luck in > gettng a reply. Please Help !!!! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Jen, I get banded on August 21st. and from what I have read with you I want to be just like you. Except for the female part. Jimmy Newly Banded > > > > Hi all, I'm from Houston and I was banded in April. I have lost 18lbs. > I have had 2 fills and had some removed d/t overfill. I need some > advise as to what I can eat. So far it is trial and error. The Dr. told > me to eat whatever I wanted-but that is not true. I cant eat tortillas, > bread, meat, rice,omelets. I learned very quickly to chew well, slowly > and not drink anything till after eating or wait a while. And not to > eat when stressed. For now its shakes, soups, beans, fine fideo, fish > and recently salads. I tried emailing the nutritionist but no luck in > gettng a reply. Please Help !!!! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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