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January 4, 2008

Have you had yourself tested and diagnosed? Tell us what tests you had and what the results showed, how long you have been depressed, is there anything in your life that warrants the depression? What did the doctors say? Roniclaudia <claudia_homer@...> wrote: Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and depression and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you in advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

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January 4, 2008

I noticed that I was depressed when I reduced the Iodoral dosage, and that surprised me. All those symptoms could describe all of my four sisters.

Gracia

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January 4, 2008

Hi Roni,

Thank you for your concern (o:. I don't have the energy or

concentration to go into all the gory details. But here's some of

it.

I'm self treating for long standing health problems. No insurance

and low finances. But I ordered one small Iodoral yesterday

(thursday) from breast cancer resources (I think it was). So will

see if it helps get the thyroid hormone to work. Been a lifelong

meat disliker (meat eaters are less likely to be iodine deficiant)and

have lived mostly in iodine low areas. Did feel better, sorta, on

the coast in conneticut. But have been in denver since 79. Have

never felt right my whole life, kinda shy, reclusive, foggy headed,

prone to depression.

I gave up drugs and started to go menopausal around end of 95 and

started to feel sick around then. Quit cigs in 97 and quit drinking

around 2001. Instead of feeling better (you'd think) I kept feeling

worse. Chronic pain all over for years and " dead " from the neck up.

I can't do the things I love like running, weight training, or

improving myself to make more money. Thyroid hormone (thyroid-s)

helps some, progesterone doesn't do anything even though it's was

very low (don't have labs).

Anyhoo, it's been a detective story on my own learning from others. I

hope this will be a piece of the puzzle. I was just wondering if

there was any correlation between iodine and your brain working

better. And if anyone has seen an improvement after using it. I

will raise very slowly and watch. If I get better any at all, I'll

pass on the info. Thanks for listening. ~

> Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency

and depression

> and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you in

> advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

>

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January 4, 2008

Hi ,

I'll try to make this as short as I can. I was always mentally and

emotionally, strong as a rock. I quit smoking 17 yrs ago and it threw

me into the deepest depresion that I NEVER thought was possible for me.

I had brain fog so bad that I couldn't sit and fill out my bills. It

was too overwhelming mentally. My Dr at the time, put me on anti

depressants and it only " kept my head above the water " , so to speak.It

really wasn't working. After 7 yrs of smoke free, I couldn't stand

living so depressed (I cried everyday)and went back to smoking (yea, I

know, bad me). Anyway, as soon as I went back to smoking I was

literally back to the old me. the depressionw was gone!

NOW... I went to see Dr. Brownstein and while there, told him of what

happened to me when I quit smoking. He said he has heard of that

happening to many people. He said most likely, I was severely lacking

in some minerals. He put me on 50 mg Iodoral along with the protocal,

vitamin D, some vitamin mineral/supplements,and a few other things.

Even though my depression was gone, I was sleeping ALL the time (prior

to the iodine). I work 3, 12 hour shifts a week and on my days off I

would sleep 12 hours a night, get up for maybe an hour and go back to

sleep for 2-3 hours. Sometimes I would repeat that (be awake for 1-2

hours and nap for another 1-2) Anyway, now that I am on the iodine, I

feel GREAT!! I still sleep alot at night but NO naps during the day

anymore. I don't need them for the first time in YEARS. I wouldn't give

up my iodine now for nothing!

I don't know if this helps you but I sure hope you get some help for

that depression because I sure do know how horrible it is.

Janie

>

> Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

depression

> and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you in

> advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

>

January 4, 2008

I wanted to add that I feel great ... as in, not needing as much sleep

as I used to but I still have some issues that I am working on. For

one, very low temp and freezing cold all the time. I go back to see Dr.

B in a few weeks. Hope to fix all soon...lol.

I know not having insurance and not much money makes it very hard to

go see a good Dr but if there is ANY way you can save up enough money

and find a good one that will check EVERYTHING for you, it will be

SOOOO worth it for you.

Janie

Anyway, now that I am on the iodine, I

> feel GREAT!! I still sleep alot at night but NO naps during the day

> anymore. I don't need them for the first time in YEARS. I wouldn't

give

> up my iodine now for nothing!

January 4, 2008

Hi Gracia,

I'm sorry to hear that. But thank you for responding.

Are your sisters on iodine? I assume they arn't.

How much iodoral where you on before you reduced, and how much did

you go down and how long before you noticed the depression? Sorry

for all the questions. You don't have to answer if you don't want to

(o;. ~

>

> I noticed that I was depressed when I reduced the Iodoral dosage,

and that surprised me. All those symptoms could describe all of my

four sisters.

> Gracia

>

> Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

depression

> and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you

in

> advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

>

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January 4, 2008

Hi ,

Excellent!!! Thank you so much for the info here and in the other

post above. I do take selenium for the last year and 2-3000mgs of C,

plus magnesium chloride and abunch of other things. 2-3 grams of

real salt daily too. Will be ready when the Iodoral gets here.

If something so simple as this will lead to improvement in health,

I'll be extatic. But at the same time I'll be completly disgusted

(to put it mildly) at the idiocy (sp?) of the powers that be for

removing what little iodine we had in our food supply. And not

figuring this out along time ago. What is their problem, grrrr! I

know, follow the money.

Thank you to you, Steph, and all the other pioneers out there for

what you all are doing. ~

> >> Has anyone come across any articles on iodine

deficiency

> > and depression

> >> and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you

in

> >> advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

> >>

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January 4, 2008

--Hi,

I had a thyroid test and they said was just fine. That was the only

test I have had. I am using the Lugol's Iodine, swabbing a circle

and sleeping less like you are even though I still sleep more than

normal. Was wondering if the iodine was helping me detox from the

mercury? Wonder if over time I could be all right without the

expensive treatment? Thanks,

- In iodine , " janiebeau " <JanieBea@...> wrote:

>

> I wanted to add that I feel great ... as in, not needing as much

sleep

> as I used to but I still have some issues that I am working on.

For

> one, very low temp and freezing cold all the time. I go back to

see Dr.

> B in a few weeks. Hope to fix all soon...lol.

> I know not having insurance and not much money makes it very hard

to

> go see a good Dr but if there is ANY way you can save up enough

money

> and find a good one that will check EVERYTHING for you, it will be

> SOOOO worth it for you.

> Janie

>

> Anyway, now that I am on the iodine, I

> > feel GREAT!! I still sleep alot at night but NO naps during the

day

> > anymore. I don't need them for the first time in YEARS. I

wouldn't

> give

> > up my iodine now for nothing!

>

January 4, 2008

Hi Janie,

Wow, what an amazing story. Thanks for sharing. Very helpfull.

I'm the same way with my bills. I have to go slowy in bits and then

go over it obsesivly to make sure it's right.

Please don't feel bad about going back to smoking when you did. I

think I actually felt better when I smoked pot, drank, etc. It's

discouraging to try so hard and end up feeling so bad for so long. I

understand.

Yeah, I agree, giving antidepressants are just putting a bandaid on

the problem. The root is still there. But they think " oh, your just

depressed, it's all in your head " .

Thank God you found Dr. B! What a blessing.

Those 12 hr shifts are killers. My internal clock is still broken

from those and other shift work, yuck.

Did you start right off at 50mg? Sounds expensive. I'll have to start

off slowly at 1/2 tab, cuz of lack of moola (money,lol). But

something is better than nothing. Take care. ~

P.S. someday when I can think straight I'll learn how to delete

posts, or whatever that's called. Sorry!

> >

> > Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

> depression

> > and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you

in

> > advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

> >

>

January 4, 2008

-

Ladybugs, What and where do you get your C? Is Ascorbic acid ok?

-- In iodine , " ladybugsandbees "

<ladybugsandbees@...> wrote:

>

> I was going to say " It's all about money " but then you said it.

LOL! It is

> idiotic and it makes me mad because I believe I would not have

gotten cancer

> had there been enough iodine in my diet. I was told I was

allergic to it

> because I am allergic to shell fish. It is the protein I am

allergic to ( I

> find out now) not the iodine. So I was killing myself because the

stupid

> doctor was clueless.

>

> Re: Iodine and depression ~

>

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Excellent!!! Thank you so much for the info here and in the

other

> > post above. I do take selenium for the last year and 2-3000mgs

of C,

> > plus magnesium chloride and abunch of other things. 2-3 grams of

> > real salt daily too. Will be ready when the Iodoral gets here.

> > If something so simple as this will lead to improvement in

health,

> > I'll be extatic. But at the same time I'll be completly

disgusted

> > (to put it mildly) at the idiocy (sp?) of the powers that be for

> > removing what little iodine we had in our food supply. And not

> > figuring this out along time ago. What is their problem, grrrr! I

> > know, follow the money.

> > Thank you to you, Steph, and all the other pioneers out there for

> > what you all are doing. ~

> >

> >> >> Has anyone come across any articles on iodine

> > deficiency

> >> > and depression

> >> >> and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank

you

> > in

> >> >> advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

> >> >>

> >> >> ---------------------------------

> >> >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> > Mobile.

> >> > Try it now.

> >> >>

> >> >

January 4, 2008

-I think some of the doctors put tapes on their websites; like Dr.

Flechas (spelling?) The more experienced girls on here might know

more.

I wanna know how much Lugol's I might take if doing the drops? I was

afraid to ingest so just swabbed on. When I think I've had enough I

back off 4 or 5 days.

P.S. I have lost most all on my computer due to crashes but I do

have a few tapes left and if I find them I'll post for you.

-- In iodine , " claudia " <claudia_homer@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Janie,

>

> Wow, what an amazing story. Thanks for sharing. Very helpfull.

> I'm the same way with my bills. I have to go slowy in bits and

then

> go over it obsesivly to make sure it's right.

> Please don't feel bad about going back to smoking when you did. I

> think I actually felt better when I smoked pot, drank, etc. It's

> discouraging to try so hard and end up feeling so bad for so

long. I

> understand.

> Yeah, I agree, giving antidepressants are just putting a bandaid

on

> the problem. The root is still there. But they think " oh, your

just

> depressed, it's all in your head " .

> Thank God you found Dr. B! What a blessing.

>

> Those 12 hr shifts are killers. My internal clock is still broken

> from those and other shift work, yuck.

> Did you start right off at 50mg? Sounds expensive. I'll have to

start

> off slowly at 1/2 tab, cuz of lack of moola (money,lol). But

> something is better than nothing. Take care. ~

>

> P.S. someday when I can think straight I'll learn how to delete

> posts, or whatever that's called. Sorry!

>

> > >

> > > Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

> > depression

> > > and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank

you

> in

> > > advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

> > >

> >

>

January 5, 2008

Thanks, I am going to try at least one drop in something like water

or milk?? Have heard of both. 6.5mg should not hurt anyone, huh?

-- In iodine , " ~Texas " <brenda.kc@...> wrote:

>

> How much Iodine is there in 1 drop of Lugol's (2% and 5%) solution?

>

> A vertical drop of 5% Lugols = 6.5mg Iodine

>

> Note: this is one drop, not a dropperful.

>

> 2%

>

> You would have to take 2 1/2 vertical drops of the 2% solution to

make 6.5mg

>

> 5 vertical drops of the 2% should equal one tablet of Iodoral

>

> From:

>

> I wanna know how much Lugol's I might take if doing the drops? I

was

> afraid to ingest so just swabbed on. When I think I've had enough I

> back off 4 or 5 days.

>

January 6, 2008

>Yes, this one by Dr.Schachter talks about iodine-deficiency and

depression:

http://www.mbschachter.com/Iodine.htm

detachment from reality sounds a bit more like belonging to

psychology/psychiatry and an article linking this to nutrient-

deficiencies, although not specifically iodine I found here:

http://www.synthesiscenter.org/articles/0132.pdf

.

> Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

depression

> and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you in

> advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

>

January 6, 2008

I haven't found any references to iodine and detachment from reality,

but I have a lot of experience with vegetarian diet contributing to

copper overload and that issue. Some people tend to go that way with

mineral imbalances, not just iodine. Read Dr. Larry on mineral

imbalances and mental health.

A few of my relatives had the same experience as me. One relative says

he lost 10 years of his life to spaciness. Now that we are on a paleo

like diet, all those issues are gone.

But you will need to explore what the issues are for you, other

peoples experiences may not apply.

Karima

> >Yes, this one by Dr.Schachter talks about iodine-deficiency and

> depression:

> http://www.mbschachter.com/Iodine.htm

> detachment from reality sounds a bit more like belonging to

> psychology/psychiatry and an article linking this to nutrient-

> deficiencies, although not specifically iodine I found here:

> http://www.synthesiscenter.org/articles/0132.pdf

> .

> > Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

> depression

> > and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you in

> > advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

> >

>

January 6, 2008

Thank you ,

I will save this post.

I guess, detachment from reality might not accuratly discribe this

state. That might make it sound too " psycho " (o;. It's hard to

discribe to others who aren't living it all the time. I guess it is

more like not being self aware, clear. Like all the senses are

muddied, and there is no boundry between your body and everything

else. A couple of times in my life, along time ago, I remember an

intense self-awareness come flooding over me, where everything around

me became crystal clear for maybe not even one minute. Colors sharper,

everything sharper and clearer. Like I was separate. The way it should

be. Very uncomfortable feeling. Then it would all fade away to fuzz.

So anyway, it will be interesting to see how iodine added to the mix

works. Got my fingers crossed! ~

> >Yes, this one by Dr.Schachter talks about iodine-deficiency and

> depression:

> http://www.mbschachter.com/Iodine.htm

> detachment from reality sounds a bit more like belonging to

> psychology/psychiatry and an article linking this to nutrient-

> deficiencies, although not specifically iodine I found here:

> http://www.synthesiscenter.org/articles/0132.pdf

> .

> > Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

> depression

> > and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank you in

> > advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

> >

>

January 6, 2008

Thank you Karima,

It's something to consider. I've always hated meat. Nothing

political. Just too much work to chew (steak) and the gaggy fat. It

skipped a generation, because my grown daughter is a big carnivore

(o:. I'm switching my cats over to a species appropriate diet (raw

meat) and it's forcing me into the meat department. Then I have to

sit down and cut it up for them (yuck). I know, excuses, excuses.

Just shut up and eat it anyway. ~

> > >Yes, this one by Dr.Schachter talks about iodine-deficiency and

> > depression:

> > http://www.mbschachter.com/Iodine.htm

> > detachment from reality sounds a bit more like belonging to

> > psychology/psychiatry and an article linking this to nutrient-

> > deficiencies, although not specifically iodine I found here:

> > http://www.synthesiscenter.org/articles/0132.pdf

> > .

> > > Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

> > depression

> > > and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank

you in

> > > advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

> > >

> >

>

January 6, 2008

Dr B suggested Iodoral but dang, yes its a lot of $$$ so I decided to use Lugol's and Dr B said thats fine. MUCH cheaper! So in the morning, along with all my vitamins and all, I put 8 drops of lugol's and 1 tsp. Celtic salt in water and down it. I have never liked salt, not even a little so to me it is medicine to be downed quickly :-)

I wish you a speedy recovery to GREAT health!

Janie> Did you start right off at 50mg? Sounds expensive. I'll have to start > off slowly at 1/2 tab, cuz of lack of moola (money,lol). But > something is better than nothing. Take care. ~

January 6, 2008

Right back at ya (a speedy recovery)! ~

> > Did you start right off at 50mg? Sounds expensive. I'll have to

start

> > off slowly at 1/2 tab, cuz of lack of moola (money,lol). But

> > something is better than nothing. Take care. ~

>

January 6, 2008

I'm sorry. I meant the 50mg tabs sounded expensive. I'm just being

whiney. ~

> > Did you start right off at 50mg? Sounds expensive. I'll have to

start

> > off slowly at 1/2 tab, cuz of lack of moola (money,lol). But

> > something is better than nothing. Take care. ~

>

January 7, 2008

Yay Gracia! You are on the " other side " . I hope to meet you there.

~

-- In iodine , " Gracia " <circe@...> wrote:

>

> that is a great description of how I have been most of my life.

I never realized how different life could be on thyroid meds and

iodine.

> Gracia

>

> I guess, detachment from reality might not accuratly discribe

this

> state. That might make it sound too " psycho " (o;. It's hard to

> discribe to others who aren't living it all the time. I guess it

is

> more like not being self aware, clear. Like all the senses are

> muddied, and there is no boundry between your body and everything

> else. A couple of times in my life, along time ago, I remember an

> intense self-awareness come flooding over me, where everything

around

> me became crystal clear for maybe not even one minute. Colors

sharper,

> everything sharper and clearer. Like I was separate. The way it

should

> be. Very uncomfortable feeling. Then it would all fade away to

fuzz.

> So anyway, it will be interesting to see how iodine added to the

mix

> works. Got my fingers crossed! ~

>

> > >Yes, this one by Dr.Schachter talks about iodine-deficiency

and

> > depression:

> > http://www.mbschachter.com/Iodine.htm

> > detachment from reality sounds a bit more like belonging to

> > psychology/psychiatry and an article linking this to nutrient-

> > deficiencies, although not specifically iodine I found here:

> > http://www.synthesiscenter.org/articles/0132.pdf

> > .

> > > Has anyone come across any articles on iodine deficiency and

> > depression

> > > and or dullness of thinking, detachment from reality. Thank

you in

> > > advance. I have to drag myself into work. ~

> > >

> >

>

January 8, 2008

Thank you Karima,

That sounds very interesting! I couldn't get the link to work though.

Searched there for pigs and nutrition and 0 came up )o:. Help,

please. ~

>

January 8, 2008

Thank you Karima,

That sounds very interesting! I couldn't get the link to work though.

Searched there for pigs and nutrition and 0 came up )o:. Help,

please. ~

>

January 8, 2008

That's perfect. Thank you! ~

> > Thank you Karima,

> >

> > That sounds very interesting! I couldn't get the link to work

though.

> > Searched there for pigs and nutrition and 0 came up )o:. Help,

> > please. ~

> >

>

> ... try this link;

>

> *http://tinyurl.com/2usdwq

>

> *

>

January 8, 2008

Thank you Karima for sharing that awesome article! That really gives people hope in finding healthy cures for depression and many other mental health issues.

When I was going through my 7 yr. long depression, I was just too messed up to even tell my Dr. how bad I felt. It was too much mental energy to explain. I am VERY thankful that, that part of my life is over, but it still makes me feel angry to think that if I had just found the right Dr. One that would have known how to treat me with the right vitamins and minerals and IODINE!!! I wouldn't have had to go through that hell for 7 LONG years. Mine came on SO suddenly and hit me so hard, my brain wasn't even functioning enough to think of the right thing to do... to look up information about it, to seek a holistic approach to it all. And my husband, bless his understanding heart, just was doing his best at getting through each day dealing with this wife that he didn't marry...lol.

I really hope that in the near future, MANY more Dr.'s will start re-thinking the way they treat patients and look deeper into holistic medicine for cures.

Janie>> Here is an amazing article that ran this weekend on treatment of bipolar> disorder with aggressive nutritional supplementation.

January 8, 2008

, try this link http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=26b385cf-a2a3-4f5f-a5b8-320206496759 & k=20077 The story is titled Vitamins for bipolar: cure or quackery? You can do a search if the link doesn't work. Very interesting article, Thanks Karmina

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