Selenium question

[Guest guest]

I think you picked the recommended form of selenium. See below:

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/ART00405

Selenium is a trace mineral which functions as a cofactor for an

important antioxidant exzyme system in the body called glutathione

peroxidase. It has been shown in one large study to reduce the risk

of secondary cancers in a group of individuals with a previous

diagnosis of skin cancer. The dose used in the study was 200

mcg/day. It is important to use an organic form of the mineral like

selenomethionine rather other forms. Brazil nuts are very rich in

selenium; one provides about 200 mcg.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/ART02041

Selenium: 200 micrograms a day. Selenium is a trace mineral with

antioxidant and anticancer properties. Selenium and vitamin E

facilitate each other's absorption, so take them together. Vitamin C

may interfere with the absorption of inorganic forms of selenium

(sodium selenite), so take the yeast-bound form instead. Doses of

selenium above 400 micrograms a day may not be healthy.

http://www.mineralsinc.com/WriteUp/L-Selenomethionine_w.htm

It is important to recognize that " chelates " and " organically bound "

forms of selenium are not similar to LSM. Both these forms release

inorganic selenium into the body. LSM is unique in that it is a

single chemical entity.

This makes LSM not only safer, but more bioavailable than other

dry " blend " selenium and methionine products. Organically bound

selenium has garnered heavy media attention as a pivotal component

in the body's detoxifying system and for its role in the prevention

of disease.

LSM administered in the form of Selenomethionine containing yeast

was found to be effective in reducing the risk of cancer in a

significant study. LSM is the preferred form of selenium

supplementation due to its inherent safety and its scientific

recognition as the most bioavailable form of selenium.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/glossary.html#S

Selenium is an essential trace mineral. Selenium activates an

antioxidant enzyme called glutathione peroxidase, which may help

protect the body from cancer. Yeast-derived forms of selenium have

induced " apoptosis " (programmed cell death) in cancer cells in test

tubes and in animals. One study found that men consuming the most

dietary selenium developed 65% fewer cases of advanced prostate

cancer than did men with low levels of selenium intake....

>

> I had been taking selenium for several months before

> starting iodoral. After reading some of the

> informative posts here, it appears that it might have

> been better had I started selenium supplementation at

> the same time as iodoral, but such is life.

>

> I ran out of selenium the other day and when I went to

> my local health food store, I found something called

> 'Seleno-6' by Solgar. The label indicates it as 75mcg

> calcium (as dicalcium phosphate) and 200 mcg selenium

> (as L-selenomethionine).

>

> Is this the same as taking plain selenium? Is that

> 'meth' in the selenomethionine name a -methyl group

> that I've seen others mention is good to take to

> reduce Hashimotos antibodies?

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

>

>

>

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Fantastic! Thanks for the good news/reassurance!jtb14789 <jtb14789@...> wrote: I think you picked the recommended form of selenium. See below:http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/ART00405Selenium is a trace mineral which functions as a cofactor for an important antioxidant exzyme system in the body called glutathione peroxidase. It has been shown in one large study to reduce the risk of secondary cancers in a group of individuals with

a previous diagnosis of skin cancer. The dose used in the study was 200 mcg/day. It is important to use an organic form of the mineral like selenomethionine rather other forms. Brazil nuts are very rich in selenium; one provides about 200 mcg.http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/ART02041Selenium: 200 micrograms a day. Selenium is a trace mineral with antioxidant and anticancer properties. Selenium and vitamin E facilitate each other's absorption, so take them together. Vitamin C may interfere with the absorption of inorganic forms of selenium (sodium selenite), so take the yeast-bound form instead. Doses of selenium above 400 micrograms a day may not be healthy.http://www.mineralsinc.com/WriteUp/L-Selenomethionine_w.htmIt is important to recognize that "chelates" and

"organically bound" forms of selenium are not similar to LSM. Both these forms release inorganic selenium into the body. LSM is unique in that it is a single chemical entity.This makes LSM not only safer, but more bioavailable than other dry "blend" selenium and methionine products. Organically bound selenium has garnered heavy media attention as a pivotal component in the body's detoxifying system and for its role in the prevention of disease. LSM administered in the form of Selenomethionine containing yeast was found to be effective in reducing the risk of cancer in a significant study. LSM is the preferred form of selenium supplementation due to its inherent safety and its scientific recognition as the most bioavailable form of selenium.http://www.nutritiondata.com/glossary.html#SSelenium is an essential trace mineral. Selenium

activates an antioxidant enzyme called glutathione peroxidase, which may help protect the body from cancer. Yeast-derived forms of selenium have induced "apoptosis" (programmed cell death) in cancer cells in test tubes and in animals. One study found that men consuming the most dietary selenium developed 65% fewer cases of advanced prostate cancer than did men with low levels of selenium intake....>> I had been taking selenium for several months before> starting iodoral. After reading some of the> informative posts here, it appears that it might have> been better had I started selenium supplementation at> the same time as iodoral, but such is life.> > I ran out of selenium the other day and when I went to> my local health food store, I found something

called> 'Seleno-6' by Solgar. The label indicates it as 75mcg> calcium (as dicalcium phosphate) and 200 mcg selenium> (as L-selenomethionine). > > Is this the same as taking plain selenium? Is that> 'meth' in the selenomethionine name a -methyl group> that I've seen others mention is good to take to> reduce Hashimotos antibodies?> > Thanks for your help!> > > > _________________________________________________________________________> Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates > (http://voice.)>

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[Guest guest]

That was me. This is what I wrote:

According to

http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00578.html

which sites

Am J Clin Nutr. 1989 May;49(5):862-9

" High doses of vitamin C (over 1 gram) may reduce

the absorption of selenium. This mineral is best

taken one hour before or 20 minutes after taking

vitamin C supplements. "

-

http://www.vegandonelight.com

>

> I know this information was previously posted, but I have been

> searching and cannot find it.

>

> I remember that Selenium supplementation should not be taken too

close

> to Vitamin C intake. But I do not remember how long one should

wait

> after taking vitamin C, or how long to wait to take C after

Selenium.

> Does anyone have a link he or she could give me?

>

> Alobar

>

[Guest guest]

That is exactly the info I was looking for. Many thanks!

Alobar

On 8/29/07, <truepatriot@...> wrote:

> That was me. This is what I wrote:

>

> According to

>

> http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00578.html

>

> which sites

>

> Am J Clin Nutr. 1989 May;49(5):862-9

>

> " High doses of vitamin C (over 1 gram) may reduce

> the absorption of selenium. This mineral is best

> taken one hour before or 20 minutes after taking

> vitamin C supplements. "

>

>

> -

> http://www.vegandonelight.com

>

[Guest guest]

I just ran into a major problem this past week with swelling of one

of my thyroid nodules and I'm really concerned and need some help. I

started on Iodoral as soon as I was told I had one nodule on each

side in late Dec. I stopped eating or taking any supplements that

were considered grotigenic. Then after a couple of weeks I added in

all the co-factor supplements as well as weekly VIT C iv's and every

other day I do infrared-sauna and soaking in a bath of epsom salts.

I felt really good....I started to feel really " wired " when I

changed my bath to magnesium oil. I didn't sleep all night even

though I did the bath early in the day. Then I gradually I noticed

(just this past Friday) difficulty in swallowing and when I felt my

neck I could tell that one of the nodules was slightly enlarged and

my neck area was tender. I don't know if I'm having a toxic

reaction or what's going on! So now I stopped the iodoral and will

start again in a week. I had all my thyroid tests done and

everything was normal (that was a month ago) I'm thinking I need to

do the antibodies again. So now I'm rethinking all my supplements

and the use of Iodoral with selenium. I use 200 mgs of L-

selenomethionine. When I started on the magnesium oil per Dr. Mark

Sircus protocal I read almost everything on his website and he

promotes the importance of selenium but he discusses selenium

selenite and I was wondering if any of you well informed people have

an opinion on which selenium to use. I know how important the liver

is to all this and I have had problems in the past with handling

sulfurs much like austic children and PST hence the sulfate from the

epsom salt baths. I also am thinking to back off the other co-

factors B2,B3 and Tyrosine for awhile. Those supplements my have

overcharged my thyroid to rapidly. I feel lost right now.

[Guest guest]

, in reading your message, it appears to me that when you changed

" I felt really good....I started to feel really " wired " when I

changed my bath to magnesium oil. "

is the place to start in seeing if that change was the culprit of

your discomfort. Maybe down the road your body will be ok with Mg

oil.

Kathleen

>

> I just ran into a major problem this past week with swelling of one

> of my thyroid nodules and I'm really concerned and need some help.

I

> started on Iodoral as soon as I was told I had one nodule on each

> side in late Dec. I stopped eating or taking any supplements that

> were considered grotigenic. Then after a couple of weeks I added in

> all the co-factor supplements as well as weekly VIT C iv's and

every

> other day I do infrared-sauna and soaking in a bath of epsom

salts.

> I felt really good....I started to feel really " wired " when I

> changed my bath to magnesium oil. I didn't sleep all night even

> though I did the bath early in the day. Then I gradually I noticed

> (just this past Friday) difficulty in swallowing and when I felt my

> neck I could tell that one of the nodules was slightly enlarged and

> my neck area was tender. I don't know if I'm having a toxic

> reaction or what's going on! So now I stopped the iodoral and will

> start again in a week. I had all my thyroid tests done and

> everything was normal (that was a month ago) I'm thinking I need

to

> do the antibodies again. So now I'm rethinking all my supplements

> and the use of Iodoral with selenium. I use 200 mgs of L-

> selenomethionine. When I started on the magnesium oil per Dr. Mark

> Sircus protocal I read almost everything on his website and he

> promotes the importance of selenium but he discusses selenium

> selenite and I was wondering if any of you well informed people

have

> an opinion on which selenium to use. I know how important the

liver

> is to all this and I have had problems in the past with handling

> sulfurs much like austic children and PST hence the sulfate from

the

> epsom salt baths. I also am thinking to back off the other co-

> factors B2,B3 and Tyrosine for awhile. Those supplements my have

> overcharged my thyroid to rapidly. I feel lost right now.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think your right Kathleen. I belong to the magforlife group as

well but now they have shut down. But there was a lot of

conversation about using the right mag oil as quite a few people

were having trouble with terrible irritation from the Global Lite

brand and were switching to Ancient minerals oil that was

recommended by the IMVA people. Seems it is in the refining process

were the " brine " was not refined out of the Global lite brand and

the Ancient minerals oil is a cold water process and it comes from

the Netherlands. There was also a lot of conversation about the

Salt Lake magnesium that apparently had a high level of mercury in

it. I don't know if the Global Lite mag came from that site or not.

But when the group disbanned there was a caution to make sure you

buy you mag oil from a reputable site. With all that said;I'm still

worried as to what I am taking (supplement wise) that appears to be

making my thyroid over active hence the swelling and soreness.

Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it.

> >

> > I just ran into a major problem this past week with swelling of

one

> > of my thyroid nodules and I'm really concerned and need some

help.

> I

> > started on Iodoral as soon as I was told I had one nodule on

each

> > side in late Dec. I stopped eating or taking any supplements

that

> > were considered grotigenic. Then after a couple of weeks I added

in

> > all the co-factor supplements as well as weekly VIT C iv's and

> every

> > other day I do infrared-sauna and soaking in a bath of epsom

> salts.

> > I felt really good....I started to feel really " wired " when I

> > changed my bath to magnesium oil. I didn't sleep all night even

> > though I did the bath early in the day. Then I gradually I

noticed

> > (just this past Friday) difficulty in swallowing and when I felt

my

> > neck I could tell that one of the nodules was slightly enlarged

and

> > my neck area was tender. I don't know if I'm having a toxic

> > reaction or what's going on! So now I stopped the iodoral and

will

> > start again in a week. I had all my thyroid tests done and

> > everything was normal (that was a month ago) I'm thinking I

need

> to

> > do the antibodies again. So now I'm rethinking all my

supplements

> > and the use of Iodoral with selenium. I use 200 mgs of L-

> > selenomethionine. When I started on the magnesium oil per Dr.

Mark

> > Sircus protocal I read almost everything on his website and he

> > promotes the importance of selenium but he discusses selenium

> > selenite and I was wondering if any of you well informed people

> have

> > an opinion on which selenium to use. I know how important the

> liver

> > is to all this and I have had problems in the past with handling

> > sulfurs much like austic children and PST hence the sulfate from

> the

> > epsom salt baths. I also am thinking to back off the other co-

> > factors B2,B3 and Tyrosine for awhile. Those supplements my

have

> > overcharged my thyroid to rapidly. I feel lost right now.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, try to start over but adding one remedy at the time. Wait for two

weeks in between the next step to include next remedy. This way you will

know what creating problem for you.

Before starting all over again wait at list two weeks it will allow to

clear the system from all the supplements you have been taking.

Zoya

Re: Selenium question

, in reading your message, it appears to me that when you changed

" I felt really good....I started to feel really " wired " when I changed

my bath to magnesium oil. "

is the place to start in seeing if that change was the culprit of your

discomfort. Maybe down the road your body will be ok with Mg oil.

Kathleen

>

> I just ran into a major problem this past week with swelling of one of

> my thyroid nodules and I'm really concerned and need some help.

I

> started on Iodoral as soon as I was told I had one nodule on each side

> in late Dec. I stopped eating or taking any supplements that were

> considered grotigenic. Then after a couple of weeks I added in all the

> co-factor supplements as well as weekly VIT C iv's and

every

> other day I do infrared-sauna and soaking in a bath of epsom

salts.

> I felt really good....I started to feel really " wired " when I changed

> my bath to magnesium oil. I didn't sleep all night even though I did

> the bath early in the day. Then I gradually I noticed (just this past

> Friday) difficulty in swallowing and when I felt my neck I could tell

> that one of the nodules was slightly enlarged and my neck area was

> tender. I don't know if I'm having a toxic reaction or what's going

> on! So now I stopped the iodoral and will start again in a week. I

> had all my thyroid tests done and everything was normal (that was a

> month ago) I'm thinking I need

to

> do the antibodies again. So now I'm rethinking all my supplements and

> the use of Iodoral with selenium. I use 200 mgs of L-

> selenomethionine. When I started on the magnesium oil per Dr. Mark

> Sircus protocal I read almost everything on his website and he

> promotes the importance of selenium but he discusses selenium selenite

> and I was wondering if any of you well informed people

have

> an opinion on which selenium to use. I know how important the

liver

> is to all this and I have had problems in the past with handling

> sulfurs much like austic children and PST hence the sulfate from

the

> epsom salt baths. I also am thinking to back off the other co-

> factors B2,B3 and Tyrosine for awhile. Those supplements my have

> overcharged my thyroid to rapidly. I feel lost right now.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

From the new member guide - 200-400 mcg of Selenium per day.  I think you are giving him too much.

 

These are required to support the body while supplementing with iodine:

a.       Vit C – 2,000 – 5,000 mgs / day – supports the symporters and assists as an antioxidant to detoxing.

b.      Selenium – 200 – 400 mcg / day – needed for detoxification and thyroid hormone creation.

c.       Unrefined salt (Celtic) – ½ tsp / day – supports adrenals, binds to bromide and assists in removal, supports symporters (sodium iodine symporters or NIS)

d.      Magnesium – 400 mgs / day – critical for over 300 enzyme reactions in the body.

e.      Optional – ATP CoFactors -1 tablet 2x / day – when individuals continue to feel fatigued or have autoimmune thyroid disease this product can assist in increasing ATP (energy) within the cells. Riboflavin and no-flush niacin.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:39 AM, <jprocure@...> wrote:

HiI managed to find selenium drops for my son, but they're quite low strength.  Each drop has 33mcg of Selenium in it.  I've been giving my son 30 drops, which I figure is about 10mg, each day.

He's seven and taking 13mg of Lugol's a day (2 drops of 5%).Is this enough selenium?ThanksJaye------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/

Commonly asked questions:   http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

[Guest guest]

I messed up on that one. It IS 33mcg per drop, but somehow my head put the

daily dose needed as MG...not MCG...so he's off selenium for a few days and I

will restart with just a couple of drops per day.

Jaye

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > I managed to find selenium drops for my son, but they're quite low strength.

Each drop has 33mcg of Selenium in it. I've been giving my son 30 drops, which

I figure is about 10mg, each day.

> >

> > He's seven and taking 13mg of Lugol's a day (2 drops of 5%).

> >

> > Is this enough selenium?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Jaye

> >

>