Re: Discourgaged

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Welcome!

It takes most people 3-5 small monthly fills to get to a good level.

your doc should be explaining all this carefully to you, and helping

you get to a good level asap.

Please see the info in the files about fills, for more guidelines.

With a good fill, we should not have trouble eating (assuming we are

following the band food choices rules and eating technique rules), we

should never have pain or barfing, we can eat 3 small meals a day and

1-2 small snacks, we can meet the calorie needs for safe loss (about

1200-1500 cal a day for most women, 1800-2000 or so for men), and can

meet the daily protein, fiber, calcium and GOOD carb needs.

the good cards (grains, veggies, nonfat milk producst and fruit)

should be 50-55% of the diet. Preotin is impt, but only about 10-15%

of the diet - and all the other things are just as important

The Band Guide in the files will also give you more of the basic info

you should be getting from your doc and his aftercare program.

with a good fill, we should be losing 1-2 # a week averaged over a

month or so. If we are not, something is not quite right - we are

not doing the things needed ourselves, and/or we do not have a good

fill yet. it can take some tweaking to get to " just right " .

Most of our eyes " don't work " - we are not able to SEE our positive

changes, after years of obesity and seeing ourselves (mentally and

physically) as obese. This is why taking pictures every month or 2

is good, starting with before surgery if possible. Stand in a

doorframe and have someone take a picture - front, back, sideways. It

will help you SEE your loss and changes, and is invaluable.

but it sounds as if you do not have a good fill, so please see your

doc to discuss all this. Be sure you're doing YOUR part -eating well,

meeting nutritional needs, getting daily exercise (even a walk is a

good start), meeting fluid needs (80-100 oz a day of no-calorie

fluids) , and working hard onm the emotional eating and food issues

we all have - preferably with a good therapist.

Glad you're here, and we look forward to your questions and your

taking part and offering ideas to others too. :-)

Sandy R

>

> Hello everyone!! I hope everyone is doing well. I had my lp surgery

on

> October 8, 2007. I have had 2 fill's since my surgery. I know that

I

> don't eat nearly as much as I did before the surgery but I don't

think

> I really have that much restriction. I know in the morning or if I

> haven't eaten in several hours I can't eat anything that is not

soft.

> If I do then I feel like the food is stuck and have to throw up. I

have

> lost 10lbs total. But looking at my body I don't feel like I am

> loosing. I know loosing is different for everyone but I was

wondering

> if some people feel like they aren't loosing as much weight as they

> should. But is there anyone that has lost weight at a very slow

weight

> but eventually got to their goal? If so how long did it take you to

get

> to your goal weight since surgery. I guess I need reassurance. I'm

> starting to think that the surgery is like many of the diets that

have

> failed that I had been on and it is very discouraging. Any words of

> encouragement or past experiences or advice would be greatly

> appreciated. Thanks

>

> Ann Marie

>

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I was banded December 18, 2007 and have lost only 6 pounds. That is

including the liquid diet the week before the surgery. I saw a man

that had his surgery the same day that I had mine at the 2 week post-

op appointment. He's lost 27 pounds! I am trying not to be

discouraged but have to admit I am. I have insulin resistance so I

knew it would be tough. I thought I would lose some. Any one else

with insulin resistance and PCOS and how has it affected you? How

do I stay motivated? Help!

> >

> > Hello everyone!! I hope everyone is doing well. I had my lp

surgery

> on

> > October 8, 2007. I have had 2 fill's since my surgery. I know

that

> I

> > don't eat nearly as much as I did before the surgery but I don't

> think

> > I really have that much restriction. I know in the morning or if

I

> > haven't eaten in several hours I can't eat anything that is not

> soft.

> > If I do then I feel like the food is stuck and have to throw up.

I

> have

> > lost 10lbs total. But looking at my body I don't feel like I am

> > loosing. I know loosing is different for everyone but I was

> wondering

> > if some people feel like they aren't loosing as much weight as

they

> > should. But is there anyone that has lost weight at a very slow

> weight

> > but eventually got to their goal? If so how long did it take you

to

> get

> > to your goal weight since surgery. I guess I need reassurance.

I'm

> > starting to think that the surgery is like many of the diets

that

> have

> > failed that I had been on and it is very discouraging. Any words

of

> > encouragement or past experiences or advice would be greatly

> > appreciated. Thanks

> >

> > Ann Marie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to you too! We love new people here..every new peron brings a

wealth of personal background and perspective to our group.

Men and heavier people often lose faster at first. We are all

different - different metabolisms, different activity levels,

different eating choices, and much more. There is ALWAYS someone

losing slower than we are, and faster than we are. Please don't

compare yourself to some other person you only " see. "

You don't even have a fill yet, so your band is not working. Many

don't lose at all before a good fill level. 6# represents 4-6 weeks

of loss with a good fill, so it jst fine, and more than many would

have at this point.

Instead of saying " I have ONLY lsot 6# " - say " I have ALREADY lost

6# ! " I can't stress enough how important this positive, optimistic

Mind-set is to our success. THis is the whole basis of Guided

Imagery, and why the Bandster Success Guided Imagery CD's are helping

so very many Bandsters with these needed mental and lifestyle

changes. (More info at www.BandsterME.com)

But we CAN lose fine, even befor a good fill, if we take the band

rules to heart , as in the last post.

The time before a first fill is never wasted time. You need to put in

place the things that are YOUR part of the formula, so when you get

to a good fill level, your serious loss will start. Banding is a

sseries of small steps, and each step depnds on doing reaasonably

well with the last.

Use the time well, and you'll soon be losing even better. Do get your

fist fill as soon as your doc allows - 6 weeks, for most. Tehn, get

more monthly until you are " just right. "

Sandy

>

> I was banded December 18, 2007 and have lost only 6 pounds. That is

> including the liquid diet the week before the surgery. I saw a man

> that had his surgery the same day that I had mine at the 2 week

post-

> op appointment. He's lost 27 pounds! I am trying not to be

> discouraged but have to admit I am. I have insulin resistance so I

> knew it would be tough. I thought I would lose some. Any one else

> with insulin resistance and PCOS and how has it affected you? How

> do I stay motivated? Help!

[Guest guest]

That sounds like perfect restriction to me. The whole idea is that

you can't eat all the time, isn't it?

Friday, January 4, 2008, 9:57:47 PM, you wrote:

> I know in the morning or if I

> haven't eaten in several hours I can't eat anything that is not soft.

> If I do then I feel like the food is stuck and have to throw up.

Many of us are tighter in the morning for unknown reasons.

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

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Friday, January 4, 2008, 9:57:47 PM, you wrote:

> But looking at my body I don't feel like I am

> loosing.

Most of us are dysmorphic, so we don't know what we look like, whether

better or worse than others see us. Do you have before and after

pictures, did you save some of your " fat clothes " to compare.

> I know loosing is different for everyone but I was wondering

> if some people feel like they aren't loosing as much weight as they

> should.

First, do not SHOULD on yourself. EVER.

Second, how fast are you losing, what weight did you start at, how

tall are you, what is your goal, what is your current weight?

> But is there anyone that has lost weight at a very slow weight

> but eventually got to their goal?

Of course, assuming they kept doing the right things, keeping a good

fill, exercising, AND had a realistic goal.

> If so how long did it take you to get

> to your goal weight since surgery.

That will partly depend on whether you're losing 80 pounds or 280

pounds. And how well you do what needs to be done.

> I guess I need reassurance. I'm

> starting to think that the surgery is like many of the diets that have

> failed that I had been on and it is very discouraging.

Remember, THE BAND IS ONLY A TOOL TO HELP, IT IS REALLY UP TO YOU.

Let us know more.

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

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Saturday, January 5, 2008, 12:16:03 PM, you wrote:

> I was banded December 18, 2007 and have lost only 6 pounds. That is

> including the liquid diet the week before the surgery. I saw a man

> that had his surgery the same day that I had mine at the 2 week post-

> op appointment. He's lost 27 pounds!

So what? You're you, not him. His loss isn't really your business,

is it? I didn't think so. Men almost always lose faster. No, it

isn't fair, but it is reality. Why? Some because men generally have

more to lose, some because they generally have faster metabolisms,

some because they often work harder at it, including more exercise.

Probably other reasons we don't know, too.

> I am trying not to be

> discouraged but have to admit I am.

Discouragement is normal. We all want instant gratification. Heck,

that's one of the reasons we got so fat.

> I have insulin resistance so I

> knew it would be tough. I thought I would lose some. Any one else

> with insulin resistance and PCOS and how has it affected you? How

> do I stay motivated? Help!

I don't know enough about PCOS to answer, but I'm sure others will.

Once again, my standard question, what weight did you start at, what

now, what goal, when banded, etc?

dan

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

[Guest guest]

Please don't feel discouraged. You have lost some weight and that is

progress. Are you doing some sort of exercise (ie; walk, swim

aerobics, dance, etc). We have to cooperate with the band and consume

less calories. Some of us have very " efficient " bodys that are

reluctant to turn lose of the excess fat. Just keep on keeping on. I

have lost 50 pounds since my proecedure in 06. Am I disappointe it

hasn't been more? Yes, but I am also greatful for the 50 pounds I have

lost.

Hang in and let us know how we can help.

MKW

>

> Hello everyone!! I hope everyone is doing well. I had my lp surgery on

> October 8, 2007. I have had 2 fill's since my surgery. I know that I

> don't eat nearly as much as I did before the surgery but I don't think

> I really have that much restriction. I know in the morning or if I

> haven't eaten in several hours I can't eat anything that is not soft.

> If I do then I feel like the food is stuck and have to throw up. I have

> lost 10lbs total. But looking at my body I don't feel like I am

> loosing. I know loosing is different for everyone but I was wondering

> if some people feel like they aren't loosing as much weight as they

> should. But is there anyone that has lost weight at a very slow weight

> but eventually got to their goal? If so how long did it take you to get

> to your goal weight since surgery. I guess I need reassurance. I'm

> starting to think that the surgery is like many of the diets that have

> failed that I had been on and it is very discouraging. Any words of

> encouragement or past experiences or advice would be greatly

> appreciated. Thanks

>

> Ann Marie

>

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Hi Anne Marie,

Good job your beginning weight loss! I had my surgery on Nov. 29th.

I felt that first month after the surgery I have been so hungry and

felt no different than before the surgery and am also feeling

discouraged. I just had an adjustment 4 days ago and feel a little

restriction, but I don't think enough. I would love to be e-mail

encouragement to each other. I will try to be motivated until this

adjust gets right. Thanks for being honest, when I read your e-mail

it was exactly what I'd been feeling but didn't want to write.

Sincerely,

Debbie

>

> Hello everyone!! I hope everyone is doing well. I had my lp surgery

on

> October 8, 2007. I have had 2 fill's since my surgery. I know that

I

> don't eat nearly as much as I did before the surgery but I don't

think

> I really have that much restriction. I know in the morning or if I

> haven't eaten in several hours I can't eat anything that is not

soft.

> If I do then I feel like the food is stuck and have to throw up. I

have

> lost 10lbs total. But looking at my body I don't feel like I am

> loosing. I know loosing is different for everyone but I was

wondering

> if some people feel like they aren't loosing as much weight as they

> should. But is there anyone that has lost weight at a very slow

weight

> but eventually got to their goal? If so how long did it take you to

get

> to your goal weight since surgery. I guess I need reassurance. I'm

> starting to think that the surgery is like many of the diets that

have

> failed that I had been on and it is very discouraging. Any words of

> encouragement or past experiences or advice would be greatly

> appreciated. Thanks

>

> Ann Marie

>

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Hi, Debbie - I see from your info at joining our group that you're

near me. we have a womnderful local support group that we'd love to

have you join! It's full of great people from several different docs,

and you'd learn a lot and also be able to share your own experiences.

One of the things we should all learn from our pre-op teaching is

that the first 6 weeks can be hard. We will have no restriction,

usjally, and will feel as if we didn't even have surgery, once we

heal. Most people are able to eat as much as before the surgery.

It's also essential to know that it takes most people 3-5 small

monthly fills to get to a good level of restriction. Expecting to be

there in 2-3 months is just not reasonable. The first 1-2 fills is

not even MEANT to be enough - but only as a gentle introduction to

stomach pressure. the stomach is VERY grumpy, and we have to sneak up

slowly with fills or it rebels badly. If we get an overfill, there is

pain, barfing, and true misery. then we need an unfill, a lengthy

rest period, and then we must start slowly again.

It's much betetr to go slowly with fills in the first place. All this

should be well-explained by our docs before surgery, imo.

and please never hesitate to post questions or conerns here. that's

what we are for. There is a lot to learn with banding, and ther is

no " dumb " question.

Let me know if you'd like ifno on the support group.

Sandy r

> >

> > Hello everyone!! I hope everyone is doing well. I had my lp

surgery

> on

> > October 8, 2007. I have had 2 fill's since my surgery. I know

that

> I

> > don't eat nearly as much as I did before the surgery but I don't

> think

> > I really have that much restriction. I know in the morning or if

I

> > haven't eaten in several hours I can't eat anything that is not

> soft.

> > If I do then I feel like the food is stuck and have to throw up.

I

> have

> > lost 10lbs total. But looking at my body I don't feel like I am

> > loosing. I know loosing is different for everyone but I was

> wondering

> > if some people feel like they aren't loosing as much weight as

they

> > should. But is there anyone that has lost weight at a very slow

> weight

> > but eventually got to their goal? If so how long did it take you

to

> get

> > to your goal weight since surgery. I guess I need reassurance.

I'm

> > starting to think that the surgery is like many of the diets that

> have

> > failed that I had been on and it is very discouraging. Any words

of

> > encouragement or past experiences or advice would be greatly

> > appreciated. Thanks

> >

> > Ann Marie

> >

>

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Hi Sandy-

Where is your support group? I would love a local support group.

Thanks for all your great advice! I am so new at this and don't know

anyone else personally to ask questions of. Look forward to asking

more questions. Thanks for the encouragement and knowledge.

Debbie

Re: Discourgaged

Hi, Debbie - I see from your info at joining our group that you're

near me. we have a womnderful local support group that we'd love to

have you join! It's full of great people from several different docs,

and you'd learn a lot and also be able to share your own experiences.

One of the things we should all learn from our pre-op teaching is

that the first 6 weeks can be hard. We will have no restriction,

usjally, and will feel as if we didn't even have surgery, once we

heal. Most people are able to eat as much as before the surgery.

It's also essential to know that it takes most people 3-5 small

monthly fills to get to a good level of restriction. Expecting to be

there in 2-3 months is just not reasonable. The first 1-2 fills is

not even MEANT to be enough - but only as a gentle introduction to

stomach pressure. the stomach is VERY grumpy, and we have to sneak up

slowly with fills or it rebels badly. If we get an overfill, there is

pain, barfing, and true misery. then we need an unfill, a lengthy

rest period, and then we must start slowly again.

It's much betetr to go slowly with fills in the first place. All this

should be well-explained by our docs before surgery, imo.

and please never hesitate to post questions or conerns here. that's

what we are for. There is a lot to learn with banding, and ther is

no " dumb " question.

Let me know if you'd like ino on the support group.

Sandy r

> >

> > Hello everyone!! I hope everyone is doing well. I had my lp

surgery

> on

> > October 8, 2007. I have had 2 fill's since my surgery. I know

that

> I

> > don't eat nearly as much as I did before the surgery but I don't

> think

> > I really have that much restriction. I know in the morning or if

I

> > haven't eaten in several hours I can't eat anything that is not

> soft.

> > If I do then I feel like the food is stuck and have to throw up.

I

> have

> > lost 10lbs total. But looking at my body I don't feel like I am

> > loosing. I know loosing is different for everyone but I was

> wondering

> > if some people feel like they aren't loosing as much weight as

they

> > should. But is there anyone that has lost weight at a very slow

> weight

> > but eventually got to their goal? If so how long did it take you

to

> get

> > to your goal weight since surgery. I guess I need reassurance.

I'm

> > starting to think that the surgery is like many of the diets that

> have

> > failed that I had been on and it is very discouraging. Any words

of

> > encouragement or past experiences or advice would be greatly

> > appreciated. Thanks

> >

> > Ann Marie

> >

>

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Hi Ann Marie

I joined this group a few weeks ago so this is my first post. I'm answering

because I feel we have something in common.I had my surgery in May last year on

talking to other successful people was expecting huge weight loss.But to date

still only loss around 1/2 a kilo or less a week. I actually sat down over Xmas

because my daughter had brought a cd that charted weight loss and diets etc. So

I filled in the graph for weight loss.In total with all those 1/2 kilo losses

and the weight I lost before surgery on the liquid diet I have lost a total of

51 kilos. so even though I'm not experiencing huge losses it does all add up. I

to have only had 2 fills with only 4.5mls in the band at present. So I suppose

I'm trying to say it does work slower with some then others.

Rosie

Warrnambool

Australia

Discourgaged

Hello everyone!! I hope everyone is doing well. I had my lp surgery on

October 8, 2007. I have had 2 fill's since my surgery. I know that I

don't eat nearly as much as I did before the surgery but I don't think

I really have that much restriction. I know in the morning or if I

haven't eaten in several hours I can't eat anything that is not soft.

If I do then I feel like the food is stuck and have to throw up. I have

lost 10lbs total. But looking at my body I don't feel like I am

loosing. I know loosing is different for everyone but I was wondering

if some people feel like they aren't loosing as much weight as they

should. But is there anyone that has lost weight at a very slow weight

but eventually got to their goal? If so how long did it take you to get

to your goal weight since surgery. I guess I need reassurance. I'm

starting to think that the surgery is like many of the diets that have

failed that I had been on and it is very discouraging. Any words of

encouragement or past experiences or advice would be greatly

appreciated. Thanks

Ann Marie

[Guest guest]

Rosie - you're doing just fine! You're even better than the average

loss, which is 1-2 # a week - or 50-100 # in a year.

Your " only " 1/2 kilo/week is more than 1 # a week - and your 51 kilos

is 112# !! That is wonderful! Sometimes we don't see how well we are

really doing.

We don't want " huge losses " in a short period - the point of the band

is a slower and SAFE loss. We have all lost with crash diets before,

and what happened? It all came right back, with exra each time.,

THIS time, weare learning the way to lose slowly and safely, and with

permanent changes in lifestyle and eating that will allow us to KEEP

the weight off this time.

It's a whole new mind-set.

But any time we have not lost for 3-4 weeks in a row, we need to re-

evaluate our eating, exercise, fluids, protein/fiber/calcium and the

other things that are OUR responsibility.

If all those things are still pretty good, it may be time to see

one's doc to consider more fill.

Sandy r

>

> Hi Ann Marie

> I joined this group a few weeks ago so this is my first post. I'm

answering because I feel we have something in common.I had my surgery

in May last year on talking to other successful people was expecting

huge weight loss.But to date still only loss around 1/2 a kilo or

less a week. I actually sat down over Xmas because my daughter had

brought a cd that charted weight loss and diets etc. So I filled in

the graph for weight loss.In total with all those 1/2 kilo losses and

the weight I lost before surgery on the liquid diet I have lost a

total of 51 kilos. so even though I'm not experiencing huge losses it

does all add up. I to have only had 2 fills with only 4.5mls in the

band at present. So I suppose I'm trying to say it does work slower

with some then others.

> Rosie

> Warrnambool

> Australia

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann Marie,

It could be worse. I was banded in September, 2007 and not only

haven't lost a single pound I gained back the 15 I lost during the

liquid phase! I know why, too. I haven't been keeping up with my

part of the work. I've had one 2cc fill in Oct. and have a slight

restriction but I should have gone back since then for an adjustment.

I'm also not making the right food choices. I stay on track during

the day but come 11:00 pm or so I start grazing. I also wasn't

walking everyday. I weigh 194 lbs and want to loose 60. It doesn't

seem like a lot but I am only 5 foot tall. I'm not going to loose as

quickly as someone who has 100+ lbs to loose. Logically I realize

where I've gone wrong -- emotionally I think of all the what if's...

it doesn't work for me, my band is broken..yadda, yadda, yadda.

The good news is we have a place like this for support and knowledge.

And, even though it doesn't feel like it, you will loose. For me, I

have been walking each day and am going for a fill tomorrow. Figuring

out what to eat is still difficult for me and I'd just about pay BIG

bucks for book with weekly menus. Also, I can see a light at the end

of a 2 year stress tunnel and know I'm going to start loosing now that

life is resuming to a normal pace.

Keep your chin up and be patient.

>

> Hello everyone!! I hope everyone is doing well. I had my lp surgery on

> October 8, 2007. I have had 2 fill's since my surgery.

> Ann Marie

>

[Guest guest]

A couple minor thoughts below.

Monday, January 7, 2008, 11:21:41 AM, you wrote:

> It could be worse. I was banded in September, 2007 and not only

> haven't lost a single pound I gained back the 15 I lost during the

> liquid phase! I know why, too. I haven't been keeping up with my

> part of the work. I've had one 2cc fill in Oct. and have a slight

> restriction but I should have gone back since then for an adjustment.

Absolutely right.

> I'm also not making the right food choices.

That's one of the biggest problems for most of us. The band won't

stop milkshakes, beer, chocolate bars, ice cream, etc, etc, etc.

> I stay on track during

> the day but come 11:00 pm or so I start grazing. I also wasn't

Grazing can be helped by going to bed. Why are you up then (I know,

not my business, but many of us have spent years eating instead of

sleeping, as we were lonely, bored, horny, whatever).

It also helps if you only have GOOD grazing food in the house. If you

never have cookies or ice cream or whatever in the house, it isn't

likely you're going to change from jammies to clothes, put on shoes,

start the car, and go down to the 7-11 or White Hen or Circle K or

whatever.

> walking everyday. I weigh 194 lbs and want to loose 60. It doesn't

> seem like a lot but I am only 5 foot tall. I'm not going to loose as

> quickly as someone who has 100+ lbs to loose. Logically I realize

> where I've gone wrong -- emotionally I think of all the what if's...

> it doesn't work for me, my band is broken..yadda, yadda, yadda.

Yeah, we have all been there and done that. I've never heard of

anyone who got a band as their " first choice " before trying WW, JC,

OA, LAWL, and all the rest. And we get ourselves into a mindset of

NONE OF THE OTHER STUFF HAS WORKED, BUT I'M HAVING SURGERY AND PAYING

A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR IT AND THE BAND IS MAGIC AND I'LL AUTOMATICALLY

LOSE WEIGHT WITHOUT CHANGING A THING.

WRONG. And the really strange thing is that we are smart enough to

laugh at those commercials that say " eat whatever you want and still

lose 5 pounds a week " . Yeah, right.

> The good news is we have a place like this for support and knowledge.

> And, even though it doesn't feel like it, you will loose. For me, I

> have been walking each day and am going for a fill tomorrow. Figuring

> out what to eat is still difficult for me and I'd just about pay BIG

> bucks for book with weekly menus. Also, I can see a light at the end

> of a 2 year stress tunnel and know I'm going to start loosing now that

> life is resuming to a normal pace.

The exercise is great, as is the fill. Glad you're getting back on

the trouble, and I'm sure that your stress eating will pass too.

> Keep your chin up and be patient.

cheers

dan

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

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late nite grazing: this is the reason that i always lose weight when

i'm away from home. just got back from a ten day cruise to the

carribean. like the new years cruise last year, i lost about 4

pounds. everyone else gained about a pound a day.

without the pantry at my disposal, i have no problem losing.

george

>

> > It could be worse. I was banded in September, 2007 and not only

> > haven't lost a single pound I gained back the 15 I lost during the

> > liquid phase! I know why, too. I haven't been keeping up with my

> > part of the work. I've had one 2cc fill in Oct. and have a slight

> > restriction but I should have gone back since then for an

adjustment.

>

> Absolutely right.

>

> > I'm also not making the right food choices.

>

> That's one of the biggest problems for most of us. The band won't

> stop milkshakes, beer, chocolate bars, ice cream, etc, etc, etc.

>

> > I stay on track during

> > the day but come 11:00 pm or so I start grazing. I also wasn't

>

> Grazing can be helped by going to bed. Why are you up then (I know,

> not my business, but many of us have spent years eating instead of

> sleeping, as we were lonely, bored, horny, whatever).

>

> It also helps if you only have GOOD grazing food in the house. If

you

> never have cookies or ice cream or whatever in the house, it isn't

> likely you're going to change from jammies to clothes, put on shoes,

> start the car, and go down to the 7-11 or White Hen or Circle K or

> whatever.

>

> > walking everyday. I weigh 194 lbs and want to loose 60. It

doesn't

> > seem like a lot but I am only 5 foot tall. I'm not going to

loose as

> > quickly as someone who has 100+ lbs to loose. Logically I realize

> > where I've gone wrong -- emotionally I think of all the what

if's...

> > it doesn't work for me, my band is broken..yadda, yadda, yadda.

>

> Yeah, we have all been there and done that. I've never heard of

> anyone who got a band as their " first choice " before trying WW, JC,

> OA, LAWL, and all the rest. And we get ourselves into a mindset of

>

> NONE OF THE OTHER STUFF HAS WORKED, BUT I'M HAVING SURGERY AND

PAYING

> A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR IT AND THE BAND IS MAGIC AND I'LL AUTOMATICALLY

> LOSE WEIGHT WITHOUT CHANGING A THING.

>

> WRONG. And the really strange thing is that we are smart enough to

> laugh at those commercials that say " eat whatever you want and still

> lose 5 pounds a week " . Yeah, right.

>

> > The good news is we have a place like this for support and

knowledge.

> > And, even though it doesn't feel like it, you will loose. For

me, I

> > have been walking each day and am going for a fill tomorrow.

Figuring

> > out what to eat is still difficult for me and I'd just about pay

BIG

> > bucks for book with weekly menus. Also, I can see a light at the

end

> > of a 2 year stress tunnel and know I'm going to start loosing now

that

> > life is resuming to a normal pace.

>

> The exercise is great, as is the fill. Glad you're getting back on

> the trouble, and I'm sure that your stress eating will pass too.

>

> > Keep your chin up and be patient.

>

> cheers

>

> dan

>

> --

> " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life "

Jon Bon Jovi

> Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

> Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

> Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

> Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

>

[Guest guest]

welcome back george. hope you had a good time.

evening grazing is a problem for me too. maybe i should go on a cruise?

At 09:09 AM 1/8/2008, you wrote:

>late nite grazing: this is the reason that i always lose weight when

>i'm away from home. just got back from a ten day cruise to the

>carribean. like the new years cruise last year, i lost about 4

>pounds. everyone else gained about a pound a day.

>

>without the pantry at my disposal, i have no problem losing.

>

>george

>

>

> >

> > > It could be worse. I was banded in September, 2007 and not only

> > > haven't lost a single pound I gained back the 15 I lost during the

> > > liquid phase! I know why, too. I haven't been keeping up with my

> > > part of the work. I've had one 2cc fill in Oct. and have a slight

> > > restriction but I should have gone back since then for an

>adjustment.

> >

> > Absolutely right.

> >

> > > I'm also not making the right food choices.

> >

> > That's one of the biggest problems for most of us. The band won't

> > stop milkshakes, beer, chocolate bars, ice cream, etc, etc, etc.

> >

> > > I stay on track during

> > > the day but come 11:00 pm or so I start grazing. I also wasn't

> >

> > Grazing can be helped by going to bed. Why are you up then (I know,

> > not my business, but many of us have spent years eating instead of

> > sleeping, as we were lonely, bored, horny, whatever).

> >

> > It also helps if you only have GOOD grazing food in the house. If

>you

> > never have cookies or ice cream or whatever in the house, it isn't

> > likely you're going to change from jammies to clothes, put on shoes,

> > start the car, and go down to the 7-11 or White Hen or Circle K or

> > whatever.

> >

> > > walking everyday. I weigh 194 lbs and want to loose 60. It

>doesn't

> > > seem like a lot but I am only 5 foot tall. I'm not going to

>loose as

> > > quickly as someone who has 100+ lbs to loose. Logically I realize

> > > where I've gone wrong -- emotionally I think of all the what

>if's...

> > > it doesn't work for me, my band is broken..yadda, yadda, yadda.

> >

> > Yeah, we have all been there and done that. I've never heard of

> > anyone who got a band as their " first choice " before trying WW, JC,

> > OA, LAWL, and all the rest. And we get ourselves into a mindset of

> >

> > NONE OF THE OTHER STUFF HAS WORKED, BUT I'M HAVING SURGERY AND

>PAYING

> > A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR IT AND THE BAND IS MAGIC AND I'LL AUTOMATICALLY

> > LOSE WEIGHT WITHOUT CHANGING A THING.

> >

> > WRONG. And the really strange thing is that we are smart enough to

> > laugh at those commercials that say " eat whatever you want and still

> > lose 5 pounds a week " . Yeah, right.

> >

> > > The good news is we have a place like this for support and

>knowledge.

> > > And, even though it doesn't feel like it, you will loose. For

>me, I

> > > have been walking each day and am going for a fill tomorrow.

>Figuring

> > > out what to eat is still difficult for me and I'd just about pay

>BIG

> > > bucks for book with weekly menus. Also, I can see a light at the

>end

> > > of a 2 year stress tunnel and know I'm going to start loosing now

>that

> > > life is resuming to a normal pace.

> >

> > The exercise is great, as is the fill. Glad you're getting back on

> > the trouble, and I'm sure that your stress eating will pass too.

> >

> > > Keep your chin up and be patient.

> >

> > cheers

> >

> > dan

> >

> > --

> > " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life "

>Jon Bon Jovi

> > Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

> > Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

> > Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

> > Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Of course you're different from most in that . To many of us

the issue on a cruise is that you CAN graze ALL DAY AND NIGHT with all

sorts of yummy things available 24/7. And it isn't nearly as much

trouble to go up a couple decks and down the passageway to get to the

yummy buffet as it is to get dressed and drive somewhere.

I will say I've lost on one cruise and stayed even on another, but

sure understand why most gain on one.

dan

Tuesday, January 8, 2008, 7:09:00 AM, you wrote:

> late nite grazing: this is the reason that i always lose weight when

> i'm away from home. just got back from a ten day cruise to the

> carribean. like the new years cruise last year, i lost about 4

> pounds. everyone else gained about a pound a day.

> without the pantry at my disposal, i have no problem losing.

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

[Guest guest]

You have to wear shoes to drive the car????

Darlene (KURI)

6/12/07

> It also helps if you only have GOOD grazing food in the house. If

you

> never have cookies or ice cream or whatever in the house, it isn't

> likely you're going to change from jammies to clothes, put on

shoes,

> start the car, and go down to the 7-11 or White Hen or Circle K or

> whatever.

> cheers

>

> dan

>

> --

> " It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life "

Jon Bon Jovi

> Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

> Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

> Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

> Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

>

[Guest guest]

oh, i've driven without them, but personally prefer having them on

then. and it may be a legal requirement in some states.

of course wearing clothes is optional too if you're just going thru

drivethru.

at the driveup coffeeshop I go to there are some very attractive young

ladies who wear " attractive clothes " (not as revealing as Hooters, but

more so than you'd wear to the office in most places). Anyway, a

couple months ago a guy drove up to get his coffee and he was in the

middle of " pleasuring himself " right there in front of her. She sold

him the coffee and got his license number and car description as he

drove away. She called police and they arrested him at his place of

work that afternoon. Talk about stupid....

Anyway, the young lady it happened to was on duty a later day and I

asked her about it...and complimented her on doing the right thing and

not just ignoring it. She said her only regret was not " accidentally

spilling the coffee in his lap " when she gave it to him.

dan

Wednesday, January 9, 2008, 11:33:01 AM, you wrote:

> You have to wear shoes to drive the car????

--

" It's OK to be a little broken, everybody's broken in this life " Jon Bon Jovi

Dan Lester, Boise, Idaho, USA www.mylapband.tk

Banded 4/27/03, Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana

Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana