licorice root

[Guest guest]

I remember buying some a couple years ago and I think it's cheaper at a health food store plus no shipping and handling involved. You have to be careful with it because it can raise your blood pressure and I don't think they advise you to take it on a consistant basis or you can take it for a couple months then go off for awhile. It seemed to calm me for a couple months then the effect wore off for some reason. It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.

[Guest guest]

You can take a spoonful of molasses with it if it gives a rise in blood pressure. This is caused by the herb using potassium in the system which will raise blood pressure.... salt will also displace potassium and cause an increase if you over do. Don't go for cheap, go for quality... cheaper ones are weaker and may have used inferior herbs. Or just by some licorice shredded. a heaping teaspoon per cup of boiling water... 3 cups a day.... simmer very gently on stove for 5 or 10 min. because it's a root and it helps pull the medicinal properties out . Strain...

Re: Re: licorice root

I remember buying some a couple years ago and I think it's cheaper at a health food store plus no shipping and handling involved. You have to be careful with it because it can raise your blood pressure and I don't think they advise you to take it on a consistant basis or you can take it for a couple months then go off for awhile. It seemed to calm me for a couple months then the effect wore off for some reason.

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[Guest guest]

Be very careful with

licorice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

Val

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrints

Or just by some licorice

shredded. a heaping teaspoon per cup of boiling water... 3 cups a day....

simmer very gently on stove for 5 or 10 min. because it's a root and it helps

pull the medicinal properties out . Strain...

[Guest guest]

A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which causes the other problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic source so may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have you as a drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal food and works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The potassium issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to what the article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and when I looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on the herb. Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic Doctor.

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

RE: Re: licorice root

Be very careful with licorice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

Val

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrints

Or just by some licorice shredded. a heaping teaspoon per cup of boiling water... 3 cups a day.... simmer very gently on stove for 5 or 10 min. because it's a root and it helps pull the medicinal properties out . Strain...

[Guest guest]

Because something is of allopathic

source, doesn't mean it should be automatically discounted.

Even your reference has a

full page devoted to cautions with licorice use. " It can produce

headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention, excessive loss of potassium and

high blood pressure. The hazard

lies in the aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the

sodium, chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the kidneys. "

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

Val

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrints

A

spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which causes the other

problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic source so may

have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have you as a drug

customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal food and

works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The potassium

issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to what the

article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and when I

looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

Here

is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on the herb. Dr.

was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic Doctor.

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

-----

Original Message -----

From: Valarie

Be very careful with

licorice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

[Guest guest]

that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a day I have clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very high in potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear as though you read any of the rest of the article : )

licorice root

Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should be automatically discounted.

Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with licorice use. "It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention, excessive loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the sodium, chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the kidneys."

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

Val

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrints

A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which causes the other problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic source so may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have you as a drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal food and works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The potassium issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to what the article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and when I looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on the herb. Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic Doctor.

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

----- Original Message -----

From: Valarie

Be very careful with licorice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

[Guest guest]

Look, VoicePrints, my only

intention was to alert people that there can possibly be problems with the use

of licorice. Because of that, you

come down on me with four barrels.

Pubmed " licorice. "

There are reports throughout the literature about the (sometimes)

serious effects of its use.

Shouldn't everyone hear both

the pros and the cons of any treatment?

It makes me ill when people

get beaten and banned because they post something which might not fit the

current dogma. Everyone on these

lists needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on these

lists is mere opinion, some better than other.

For some on this list,

licorice may be very helpful; for others, it could be deadly. The same can be said of iodine and

salt. If I swigged 1/2 t of salt,

it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory arrest.

People should hear the good

… and the bad.

When full information about

anything is repressed, you end up with snake oil.

Val

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrints

that

warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a day I have

clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very high in

potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear as

though you read any of the rest of the article : )

-----

Original Message -----

From: Valarie

Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should

be automatically discounted.

Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with

licorice use. " It can produce headache, lethargy,

sodium and water retention, excessive loss of potassium and high blood

pressure. The hazard lies in the aldosterone-like effects of licorice.

This is increasing the sodium, chloride and water retention and potassium

excretion by the kidneys. "

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrints

A

spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which causes the other

problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic source so may have

it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have you as a drug customer

so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal food and works for

some of the very reasons listed in the article. The potassium issue is

well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to what the article

states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and when I looked

it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

Here

is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on the herb. Dr.

was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic Doctor.

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

-----

Original Message -----

From:

Valarie

Be very careful with licorice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

[Guest guest]

You know what's really funny is I have been noticing how when people accuse you of something they are usually manifesting the same or worse. It' comical really. No one is coming down on you.... information was given. period.

RE: licorice root

Look, VoicePrints, my only intention was to alert people that there can possibly be problems with the use of licorice. Because of that, you come down on me with four barrels. Pubmed "licorice." There are reports throughout the literature about the (sometimes) serious effects of its use.

Shouldn't everyone hear both the pros and the cons of any treatment?

It makes me ill when people get beaten and banned because they post something which might not fit the current dogma. Everyone on these lists needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on these lists is mere opinion, some better than other.

For some on this list, licorice may be very helpful; for others, it could be deadly. The same can be said of iodine and salt. If I swigged 1/2 t of salt, it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory arrest.

People should hear the good … and the bad.

When full information about anything is repressed, you end up with snake oil.

Val

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrints

that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a day I have clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very high in potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear as though you read any of the rest of the article : )

----- Original Message -----

From: Valarie

Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should be automatically discounted.

Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with licorice use. "It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention, excessive loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the sodium, chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the kidneys."

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrints

A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which causes the other problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic source so may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have you as a drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal food and works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The potassium issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to what the article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and when I looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on the herb. Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic Doctor.

http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

----- Original Message -----

From: Valarie

Be very careful with licorice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

[Guest guest]

Thank you Val, I for one want to hear all sides of the story - even if

it confuses me! Don't people take licorice root to try to get cortisol

levels up? If so I don't think I need it since I am taking Cortef. It

seems that I read somewhere that it can cause blood pressure to go up.

I already had high bp when I started taking Cortef. Also started taking

Lugol's. Iodine has gone up since. I don't know which one is causing

the problem. Or it could be one of the other supplements I have added,

but wouldn't think so. Also have increased Armour and I just ordered

some celtic sea salt. Any input on this?

Also all the posts about colonics and cleansing etc. Is this really

necessary? Since I have started taking mag oxide, and also raised

Armour, am no longer constipated. Should we really mess around with

this so much? Yuck!

Lynn

>

> Look, VoicePrints, my only intention was to alert people that there

can

> possibly be problems with the use of licorice. Because of that, you

come

> down on me with four barrels. Pubmed " licorice. " There are reports

> throughout the literature about the (sometimes) serious effects of its

use.

>

> Shouldn't everyone hear both the pros and the cons of any treatment?

>

> It makes me ill when people get beaten and banned because they post

> something which might not fit the current dogma. Everyone on these

lists

> needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on

these

> lists is mere opinion, some better than other.

>

> For some on this list, licorice may be very helpful; for others, it

could be

> deadly. The same can be said of iodine and salt. If I swigged 1/2 t of

> salt, it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory arrest.

>

> People should hear the good . and the bad.

>

> When full information about anything is repressed, you end up with

snake

> oil.

>

> Val

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

Of

> VoicePrints

>

>

> that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a day I

have

> clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very high

in

> potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear as

though

> you read any of the rest of the article : )

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Valarie <mailto:val@...

> Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should be

> automatically discounted.

> Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with licorice

use.

> " It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention,

excessive

> loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the

> aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the sodium,

> chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the kidneys. "

> http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

Of

> VoicePrints

> A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which causes the

other

> problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic source

so

> may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have you as

a

> drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal

food and

> works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The

potassium

> issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to

what the

> article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and when

I

> looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

> Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on the

herb.

> Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic

Doctor.

> http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Valarie <mailto:val@...

> Be very careful with licorice.

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

>

[Guest guest]

I meant, in second paragraph, Also started taking Lugol's iodine. BP

has gone up since then.

> >

> > Look, VoicePrints, my only intention was to alert people that

there

> can

> > possibly be problems with the use of licorice. Because of that,

you

> come

> > down on me with four barrels. Pubmed " licorice. " There are reports

> > throughout the literature about the (sometimes) serious effects

of its

> use.

> >

> > Shouldn't everyone hear both the pros and the cons of any

treatment?

> >

> > It makes me ill when people get beaten and banned because they

post

> > something which might not fit the current dogma. Everyone on these

> lists

> > needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on

> these

> > lists is mere opinion, some better than other.

> >

> > For some on this list, licorice may be very helpful; for others,

it

> could be

> > deadly. The same can be said of iodine and salt. If I swigged 1/2

t of

> > salt, it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory

arrest.

> >

> > People should hear the good . and the bad.

> >

> > When full information about anything is repressed, you end up with

> snake

> > oil.

> >

> > Val

> >

> > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf

> Of

> > VoicePrints

> >

> >

> > that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a

day I

> have

> > clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very

high

> in

> > potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear

as

> though

> > you read any of the rest of the article : )

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Valarie <mailto:val@

> > Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should

be

> > automatically discounted.

> > Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with

licorice

> use.

> > " It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention,

> excessive

> > loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the

> > aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the

sodium,

> > chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the

kidneys. "

> > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

> > From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf

> Of

> > VoicePrints

> > A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which

causes the

> other

> > problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic

source

> so

> > may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have

you as

> a

> > drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal

> food and

> > works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The

> potassium

> > issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to

> what the

> > article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and

when

> I

> > looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

> > Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on

the

> herb.

> > Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic

> Doctor.

> > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Valarie <mailto:val@

> > Be very careful with licorice.

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think it is important to

introduce one thing at a time and then log your reactions. If you already were hypertensive when

you started Cortef, perhaps that was not indicated for you. Generally, adrenal fatigue leads to low

blood pressure.

I believe iodine can spark

high blood pressure also if it excites thyroid antibodies. I have friends who have TSI antibodies

and iodine sent them into a hyperthyroid state.

Armour can also increase

blood pressure if you overdo it.

Some hypertensives are salt

sensitive. The only way you know is

to log what salt does to you.

I've often wondered about

the colonics crowd and their insistence that we're all full of years of sticky

sludge. I don't believe I've ever

heard of years of accumulation of sticky sludge with regard to colonoscopy. They have you do a cleanout of current

fecal matter and then scope.

I assume you have a home

blood pressure unit and are monitoring your BP?

Val

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lynnkrt2

Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 2:40

PM

iodine

Subject: Re: licorice

root

I meant, in second paragraph, Also started taking

Lugol's iodine. BP

has gone up since then.

> >

> > Look, VoicePrints, my only intention was to alert people that

there

> can

> > possibly be problems with the use of licorice. Because of that,

you

> come

> > down on me with four barrels. Pubmed " licorice. " There are reports

> > throughout the literature about the (sometimes) serious effects

of its

> use.

> >

> > Shouldn't everyone hear both the pros and the cons of any

treatment?

> >

> > It makes me ill when people get beaten and banned because they

post

> > something which might not fit the current dogma. Everyone on these

> lists

> > needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on

> these

> > lists is mere opinion, some better than other.

> >

> > For some on this list, licorice may be very helpful; for others,

it

> could be

> > deadly. The same can be said of iodine and salt. If I swigged 1/2

t of

> > salt, it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory

arrest.

> >

> > People should hear the good . and the bad.

> >

> > When full information about anything is repressed, you end up with

> snake

> > oil.

> >

> > Val

> >

> > From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ]

On

Behalf

> Of

> > VoicePrints

> >

> >

> > that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a

day I

> have

> > clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very

high

> in

> > potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear

as

> though

> > you read any of the rest of the article : )

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Valarie <mailto:val@

> > Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should

be

> > automatically discounted.

> > Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with

licorice

> use.

> > " It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention,

> excessive

> > loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the

> > aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the

sodium,

> > chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the

kidneys. "

> > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

> > From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ]

On

Behalf

> Of

> > VoicePrints

> > A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which

causes the

> other

> > problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic

source

> so

> > may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have

you as

> a

> > drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal

> food and

> > works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The

> potassium

> > issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to

> what the

> > article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and

when

> I

> > looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

> > Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on

the

> herb.

> > Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic

> Doctor.

> > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Valarie <mailto:val@

> > Be very careful with licorice.

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

Am having problems as well with BP. Mine has always been

90/60. After starting Cortef, iodine and Armour it went to 120/80.

Then this month it went really high 150/97 avg. Really had me worried

looked at all meds and supplements. Figured it was a combo of things.

Am taking licorice in a Humaworm 30 day supply. Have 15 days left stopped the salt and iodine two days ago. Started to have an irregular

heart beat along with the raised blood pressure.

This is not good as have CHF on the left side from myxedema coma.

My blood pressure has gone down to 130/87. After the 15 days are

up will add the iodine and unprocessed sea salt back and see where

to go from there.

From: lynnkrt2

Thank you Val, I for one want to hear all sides of the story - even if

it confuses me! Don't people take licorice root to try to get cortisol

levels up? If so I don't think I need it since I am taking Cortef. It

seems that I read somewhere that it can cause blood pressure to go up.

I already had high bp when I started taking Cortef. Also started taking

Lugol's. Iodine has gone up since. I don't know which one is causing

the problem. Or it could be one of the other supplements I have added,

but wouldn't think so. Also have increased Armour and I just ordered

some celtic sea salt. Any input on this?

Also all the posts about colonics and cleansing etc. Is this really

necessary? Since I have started taking mag oxide, and also raised

Armour, am no longer constipated. Should we really mess around with

this so much? Yuck!

Lynn

[Guest guest]

I have primary

hyperaldosteronism and visit with others with the same condition. I am terrified of licorice and would bet

that is raising your blood pressure.

I've watched many come and go from the group and licorice is always a

problem. It mimics the effect of

aldosterone. It may be that your

blood pressure will normalize when you dump that.

Val

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ~Texas

Lynn,

Am

having problems as well with BP. Mine has always been

90/60.

After starting Cortef, iodine and Armour it went to 120/80.

Then

this month it went really high 150/97 avg. Really had me worried

looked

at all meds and supplements. Figured it was a combo of things.

Am

taking licorice in a Humaworm 30 day supply. Have 15 days left stopped

the salt and iodine two days ago. Started to have an irregular

heart

beat along with the raised blood pressure.

This

is not good as have CHF on the left side from myxedema coma.

My

blood pressure has gone down to 130/87. After the 15 days are

up

will add the iodine and unprocessed sea salt back and see where

to

go from there.

From: lynnkrt2

Thank

you Val, I for one want to hear all sides of the story - even if

it

confuses me! Don't people take licorice root to try to get

cortisol

levels

up? If so I don't think I need it since I am taking

Cortef. It

seems

that I read somewhere that it can cause blood pressure to go up.

I

already had high bp when I started taking Cortef. Also started

taking

Lugol's. Iodine

has gone up since. I don't know which one is causing

the

problem. Or it could be one of the other supplements I have added,

but

wouldn't think so. Also have increased Armour and I just ordered

some

celtic sea salt. Any input on this?

Also

all the posts about colonics and cleansing etc. Is this really

necessary? Since

I have started taking mag oxide, and also raised

Armour,

am no longer constipated. Should we really mess around with

this

so much? Yuck!

Lynn

[Guest guest]

> > >> > > Look, VoicePrints, my only intention was to alert people that > there> > can> > > possibly be problems with the use of licorice. Because of that, > you> > come> > > down on me with four barrels. Pubmed "licorice." There are reports> > > throughout the literature about the (sometimes) serious effects > of its> > use.> > >> > > Shouldn't everyone hear both the pros and the cons of any > treatment?> > >> > > It makes me ill when people get beaten and banned because they > post> > > something which might not fit the current dogma. Everyone on these> > lists> > > needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on> > these> > > lists is mere opinion, some better than other.> > >> > > For some on this list, licorice may be very helpful; for others, > it> > could be> > > deadly. The same can be said of iodine and salt. If I swigged 1/2 > t of> > > salt, it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory > arrest.> > >> > > People should hear the good . and the bad.> > >> > > When full information about anything is repressed, you end up with> > snake> > > oil.> > >> > > Val> > >> > > From: iodine <mailto:iodine%40>> [mailto:iodine <mailto:iodine%40> ] On > Behalf> > Of> > > VoicePrints> > >> > >> > > that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a > day I> > have> > > clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very > high> > in> > > potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear > as> > though> > > you read any of the rest of the article : )> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > From: Valarie <mailto:val@> > > Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should > be> > > automatically discounted.> > > Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with > licorice> > use.> > > "It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention,> > excessive> > > loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the> > > aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the > sodium,> > > chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the > kidneys."> > > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html> > > From: iodine <mailto:iodine%40>> [mailto:iodine <mailto:iodine%40> ] On > Behalf> > Of> > > VoicePrints> > > A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which > causes the> > other> > > problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic > source> > so> > > may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have > you as> > a> > > drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal> > food and> > > works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The> > potassium> > > issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to> > what the> > > article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and > when> > I> > > looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.> > > Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on > the> > herb.> > > Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic> > Doctor.> > > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > From: Valarie <mailto:val@> > > Be very careful with licorice.> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract> > >> >>

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Lynn,

Thinking about it stopping the Humaworm and order a new supply

without licorice. Took it in the fall before starting Cortef and had

not problems at all.

CHF is congestive heart failure not a good things however am

very hopeful that with treatment of Adrenals and hypothyroid that

it will go away in a few years.

From: lynnkrt2

,

I'm rather new at all of this but don't think you are supposed to take Cortef AND licorice root. From what I have been reading, both raise cortisol levels.

Your blood pressure was really normally low. Mine was never that low. Mine used to be about 125/72 before I gained all this weight.

What is CHF?

Lynn

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Lynn,

Parasite cleansing. Before got so sick used to travel all over

and had pickup something bad and did not realize it.

Had gotten so bad that with the gas and stomach reflux could

not even sleep laying down. Of course the doctors gave me

all kinds of things that did not work.

Then started Humaworm within 3 weeks all of this was gone

and has remained that way. Do the in between herbs as well.

They say if you do a 30 day treatment one or twice a year

you will keep the parasites at bay. Since never have stomach,

gas or indigestion at all any more plan on doing Humaworm the

rest of my life.

He tells you just what is in the product along with how

each item works.

http://humaworm.com/formula.html

http://humaworm.com/

You can ask RG questions and or read others post

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=757

From: lynnkrt2

,

What is Humaworm and what is it for?

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Sometimes we feel vunerable posting on the internet

especially when someone twists our meanings out of

misunderstanding.

Aristotles Golden Rule was to do everything in

moderation. Since all our bodies are different what

helps one can kill another so we shouldn't be dogmatic

in our opinions.

I have wanted to take licorice for a long time for the

benefits but I cant because of the warnings of the

side effects. I thoroughly research anything even

doctors prescriptions before I take them. IF the

warnings are too dangerous I won't take them. Doctor

of course get frustrated with me. However In my

younger days doctors almost killed me with drugs so I

have good reason not to trust them.

[Guest guest]

getting the right doses of cortef, Armour and iodine makes allthe

difference. I would have trouble with too little.

Gracia who is in Berlin.de

Original Message:

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From: lynnkrt2 lynnkrt2@...

Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:38:16 -0000

iodine

Subject: Re: licorice root

Thank you Val, I for one want to hear all sides of the story - even if

it confuses me! Don't people take licorice root to try to get cortisol

levels up? If so I don't think I need it since I am taking Cortef. It

seems that I read somewhere that it can cause blood pressure to go up.

I already had high bp when I started taking Cortef. Also started taking

Lugol's. Iodine has gone up since. I don't know which one is causing

the problem. Or it could be one of the other supplements I have added,

but wouldn't think so. Also have increased Armour and I just ordered

some celtic sea salt. Any input on this?

Also all the posts about colonics and cleansing etc. Is this really

necessary? Since I have started taking mag oxide, and also raised

Armour, am no longer constipated. Should we really mess around with

this so much? Yuck!

Lynn

>

> Look, VoicePrints, my only intention was to alert people that there

can

> possibly be problems with the use of licorice. Because of that, you

come

> down on me with four barrels. Pubmed " licorice. " There are reports

> throughout the literature about the (sometimes) serious effects of its

use.

>

> Shouldn't everyone hear both the pros and the cons of any treatment?

>

> It makes me ill when people get beaten and banned because they post

> something which might not fit the current dogma. Everyone on these

lists

> needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on

these

> lists is mere opinion, some better than other.

>

> For some on this list, licorice may be very helpful; for others, it

could be

> deadly. The same can be said of iodine and salt. If I swigged 1/2 t of

> salt, it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory arrest.

>

> People should hear the good . and the bad.

>

> When full information about anything is repressed, you end up with

snake

> oil.

>

> Val

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

Of

> VoicePrints

>

>

> that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a day I

have

> clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very high

in

> potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear as

though

> you read any of the rest of the article : )

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Valarie <mailto:val@...

> Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should be

> automatically discounted.

> Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with licorice

use.

> " It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention,

excessive

> loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the

> aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the sodium,

> chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the kidneys. "

> http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

Of

> VoicePrints

> A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which causes the

other

> problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic source

so

> may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have you as

a

> drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal

food and

> works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The

potassium

> issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to

what the

> article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and when

I

> looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

> Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on the

herb.

> Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic

Doctor.

> http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Valarie <mailto:val@...

> Be very careful with licorice.

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

>

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Yeah, all those colon cleansers that show the built up waste in the

toilet bowl(namely dr. natura), I don't think is built up waste at

all. I am sure they can be helpful, but I think the bulky consistency

is mostly the fiber blend itself. I did the natura cleanse for a

month and I had good full consistent stools with that ropish quality,

but I did not feel much different for it or lose any noticeable amount

of weight. Good product, $80 is just really cheap. I have used

homozon and oxypowder in the past too. I am not sure of the how much

intestinal cleaning those actually do, but I did do alot of cleaning

of the toilet bowl the morning after. I couldn't say which route is

better, I would probably prefer the fiber based one because of the

stool consistency, but nothing has ever given the effects that the

website touts. I am jsut as bloated with just as much reflux.

greg

> > >

> > > Look, VoicePrints, my only intention was to alert people that

> there

> > can

> > > possibly be problems with the use of licorice. Because of that,

> you

> > come

> > > down on me with four barrels. Pubmed " licorice. " There are reports

> > > throughout the literature about the (sometimes) serious effects

> of its

> > use.

> > >

> > > Shouldn't everyone hear both the pros and the cons of any

> treatment?

> > >

> > > It makes me ill when people get beaten and banned because they

> post

> > > something which might not fit the current dogma. Everyone on these

> > lists

> > > needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on

> > these

> > > lists is mere opinion, some better than other.

> > >

> > > For some on this list, licorice may be very helpful; for others,

> it

> > could be

> > > deadly. The same can be said of iodine and salt. If I swigged 1/2

> t of

> > > salt, it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory

> arrest.

> > >

> > > People should hear the good . and the bad.

> > >

> > > When full information about anything is repressed, you end up with

> > snake

> > > oil.

> > >

> > > Val

> > >

> > > From: iodine <mailto:iodine%40>

> [mailto:iodine <mailto:iodine%40> ] On

> Behalf

> > Of

> > > VoicePrints

> > >

> > >

> > > that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a

> day I

> > have

> > > clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very

> high

> > in

> > > potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear

> as

> > though

> > > you read any of the rest of the article : )

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Valarie <mailto:val@

> > > Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should

> be

> > > automatically discounted.

> > > Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with

> licorice

> > use.

> > > " It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention,

> > excessive

> > > loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the

> > > aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the

> sodium,

> > > chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the

> kidneys. "

> > > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html

> > > From: iodine <mailto:iodine%40>

> [mailto:iodine <mailto:iodine%40> ] On

> Behalf

> > Of

> > > VoicePrints

> > > A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which

> causes the

> > other

> > > problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic

> source

> > so

> > > may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have

> you as

> > a

> > > drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal

> > food and

> > > works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The

> > potassium

> > > issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to

> > what the

> > > article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and

> when

> > I

> > > looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.

> > > Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on

> the

> > herb.

> > > Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic

> > Doctor.

> > > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Valarie <mailto:val@

> > > Be very careful with licorice.

> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract

> > >

> >

>

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You might want to try a good digestive enzyme to relieve the reflux & bloating.. that's not about the colon. A simple solution is 1 tbls. applecider vinegar in a glass of water with a little honey with or 20 min. before meals. Remember to replenish the flora of the bowel if you do anything harsh in your cleansing routine. Home made raw milk kefir is good as is sauerkraut & kimchi... or a good probiotic.

Cheryl

Re: licorice root

Yeah, all those colon cleansers that show the built up waste in thetoilet bowl(namely dr. natura), I don't think is built up waste atall. I am sure they can be helpful, but I think the bulky consistencyis mostly the fiber blend itself. I did the natura cleanse for amonth and I had good full consistent stools with that ropish quality,but I did not feel much different for it or lose any noticeable amountof weight. Good product, $80 is just really cheap. I have usedhomozon and oxypowder in the past too. I am not sure of the how muchintestinal cleaning those actually do, but I did do alot of cleaningof the toilet bowl the morning after. I couldn't say which route isbetter, I would probably prefer the fiber based one because of thestool consistency, but nothing has ever given the effects that thewebsite touts. I am jsut as bloated with just as much reflux.greg> > >> > > Look, VoicePrints, my only intention was to alert people that > there> > can> > > possibly be problems with the use of licorice. Because of that, > you> > come> > > down on me with four barrels. Pubmed "licorice." There are reports> > > throughout the literature about the (sometimes) serious effects > of its> > use.> > >> > > Shouldn't everyone hear both the pros and the cons of any > treatment?> > >> > > It makes me ill when people get beaten and banned because they > post> > > something which might not fit the current dogma. Everyone on these> > lists> > > needs to understand that without adequate research, everything on> > these> > > lists is mere opinion, some better than other.> > >> > > For some on this list, licorice may be very helpful; for others, > it> > could be> > > deadly. The same can be said of iodine and salt. If I swigged 1/2 > t of> > > salt, it could likely kill me with paralysis and respiratory > arrest.> > >> > > People should hear the good . and the bad.> > >> > > When full information about anything is repressed, you end up with> > snake> > > oil.> > >> > > Val> > >> > > From: iodine <mailto:iodine%40>> [mailto:iodine <mailto:iodine%40> ] On > Behalf> > Of> > > VoicePrints> > >> > >> > > that warning is for excessive use, but even with using it 3x's a > day I> > have> > > clients add a spoonfull of molasses with it ... molasses is very > high> > in> > > potassium, even more so the pills you can buy. It doesn't appear > as> > though> > > you read any of the rest of the article : )> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > From: Valarie <mailto:val@> > > Because something is of allopathic source, doesn't mean it should > be> > > automatically discounted.> > > Even your reference has a full page devoted to cautions with > licorice> > use.> > > "It can produce headache, lethargy, sodium and water retention,> > excessive> > > loss of potassium and high blood pressure. The hazard lies in the> > > aldosterone-like effects of licorice. This is increasing the > sodium,> > > chloride and water retention and potassium excretion by the > kidneys."> > > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Contra.html> > > From: iodine <mailto:iodine%40>> [mailto:iodine <mailto:iodine%40> ] On > Behalf> > Of> > > VoicePrints> > > A spoonful of Licorice will offset the potassium loss which > causes the> > other> > > problems mentioned in the article. The article is an allopathic > source> > so> > > may have it's roots in the pharma cartel that would rather have > you as> > a> > > drug customer so beware the source. Licorice is a specific adrenal> > food and> > > works for some of the very reasons listed in the article. The> > potassium> > > issue is well known among practitioners and herbalists contrary to> > what the> > > article states. Thier spelling of licorice is odd (liquorice) and > when> > I> > > looked it up it was a Brittish variant of the spelling.> > > Here is a link to the Dr. site with allot of info on > the> > herb.> > > Dr. was a renouned Master Herbalist and Naturopathic> > Doctor.> > > http://www.herballegacy.com/Knuteson_Licorice.html> > > ----- Original Message -----> > > From: Valarie <mailto:val@> > > Be very careful with licorice.> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3808407?dopt=Abstract> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

So your symptoms were bloating and reflux and humaworm got rid of

that? Maybe this will be my next purchase.

greg

>

>

> Lynn,

>

> Parasite cleansing. Before got so sick used to travel all over

> and had pickup something bad and did not realize it.

>

> Had gotten so bad that with the gas and stomach reflux could

> not even sleep laying down. Of course the doctors gave me

> all kinds of things that did not work.

>

> Then started Humaworm within 3 weeks all of this was gone

> and has remained that way. Do the in between herbs as well.

>

> They say if you do a 30 day treatment one or twice a year

> you will keep the parasites at bay. Since never have stomach,

> gas or indigestion at all any more plan on doing Humaworm the

> rest of my life.

>

> He tells you just what is in the product along with how

> each item works.

> http://humaworm.com/formula.html

> http://humaworm.com/

> You can ask RG questions and or read others post

> http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=757

>

> From: lynnkrt2

>

> ,

> What is Humaworm and what is it for?

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know what the $20.00 word means, but tea with licorice root is not only naturally tastey, but it loosens phloegm? from the lungs. It will also loosen your stool, so don't overdo it.