Guest guest Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 <<<just want clean organs>>> Make sure to eat 100% compliant. flushes Re: flushes,,, the gallbladder flush (Heidi's? step 3) sounds worth a try... are there any recommendations for good kidney and liver flushes as well? For those of us who have never flushed and no diagnosed kidney/liver/gallbladder issues ! just want clean organs! You're all great,, thanks for all the help !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 In a message dated 9/29/2003 6:31:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lescase@... writes: > are there any recommendations for good kidney and liver flushes as well? > For those of us who have never flushed and no diagnosed > kidney/liver/gallbladder issues ! just want clean organs! If you go to the website, they recommend a parasite cleanse before the liver cleanse. From the reading they convinced me to do the parasite cleanse since I have a dog. I got one at my health food store. It takes about 15 days. The brand name is ParaGone by Renew Life. They sounded pretty competent except that they sound like a bunch of vegetarians. The three most important ingredients are black walnut, wormwood, and ground clove but it has many other herbs included. Speaking of vegetarians, they have always said that the ancient Egyptians lived on wheat and beer. An archealogical dig special that I just saw on the National Geographic channel has uncovered evidence that the everyday pyramid worker not only routinely ate fish but cattle as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 In a message dated 9/30/2003 2:54:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, info@... writes: > Renew Life - I know the owner who is an O and into the BTD, & not a > vegetarian. > LOL--don't tell the vegetarians!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 In a message dated 9/30/2003 2:54:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, info@... writes: > However I’ll warn you people that with this parasite deal - some get > sick when there is not parasite to kill. So far, no problems. Must have critters--LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Renew Life - I know the owner who is an O and into the BTD, & not a vegetarian. However I¡Çll warn you people that with this parasite deal - some get sick when there is not parasite to kill. I even have a post printed for a few years ago when someone asked about it. I have to locate it. Foodforyourblood.com Re: flushes In a message dated 9/29/2003 6:31:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lescase@... writes: > are there any recommendations for good kidney and liver flushes as well? > For those of us who have never flushed and no diagnosed > kidney/liver/gallbladder issues ! just want clean organs! If you go to the website, they recommend a parasite cleanse before the liver cleanse. From the reading they convinced me to do the parasite cleanse since I have a dog. I got one at my health food store. It takes about 15 days. The brand name is ParaGone by Renew Life. They sounded pretty competent except that they sound like a bunch of vegetarians. The three most important ingredients are black walnut, wormwood, and ground clove but it has many other herbs included. Speaking of vegetarians, they have always said that the ancient Egyptians lived on wheat and beer. An archealogical dig special that I just saw on the National Geographic channel has uncovered evidence that the everyday pyramid worker not only routinely ate fish but cattle as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 I'm one of the few people I know who found the gallbladder cleanse to be too strong. Most folks have wonderful results, but if you tend to be very sensitive to any sort of cleanse it may upset your system. For me, coffee enemas work much better. They're gentler and focus more specifically on the liver. I do two a month, a very light infusion, and I don't get migraines or menstrual cramps any more. I did this before I got serious about the O diet, and even then I could see huge benefits. Now that I'm on the diet, the benefits are even greater. I also have a question about being new to the diet. I'm feeling fatigued, stuffy-headed and unable to think clearly. Some of it may be die-off, though I had already eliminated potatoes and most wheat. I am eating red meat to get the amino acid that's supposed to keep my mood elevated. But I feel lethargic and anxious. Any thoughts? Kelley > Re: flushes,,, the gallbladder flush (Heidi's? step 3) sounds worth a > try... are there any recommendations for good kidney and liver flushes as well? > For those of us who have never flushed and no diagnosed > kidney/liver/gallbladder issues ! just want clean organs! You're all great,, thanks for all > the help !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 In a message dated 10/4/2003 12:31:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, starlet2367@... writes: > I also have a question about being new to the diet. I'm feeling > fatigued, stuffy-headed and unable to think clearly. May be withdrawl from carbs. I used to have the same symptoms when I quit smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2003 Report Share Posted October 5, 2003 more water starlet!!!...orally that is. This always helps my stuffy-headed episodes; I get those some mornings after breaking the 3/4 cup of wine limit before dinner rule and also when I was a mocha fiend not so very long ago (the enemas just were not as satisfying without the whipped cream and chocolate), butt (pun intended) lethargy may also improve with some extra H20. I think you probably are detoxing a little more quickly than your body can hide; more water and lots more oxygen....try some deep breathing, a brisk walk, Iyengar yoga, sex or a scary movie (not necessarily in that order). I enjoy a sporting sword fight with the wife to ward off lethargy but I'm sure you will enjoy exploring what works best for you. Don't worry...this too will pass. Be careful...those coffee enemas could be addictive...are you using decaf? Jolly good..... , nonnie-O Re: flushes I'm one of the few people I know who found the gallbladder cleanse to be too strong. Most folks have wonderful results, but if you tend to be very sensitive to any sort of cleanse it may upset your system. For me, coffee enemas work much better. They're gentler and focus more specifically on the liver. I do two a month, a very light infusion, and I don't get migraines or menstrual cramps any more. I did this before I got serious about the O diet, and even then I could see huge benefits. Now that I'm on the diet, the benefits are even greater. I also have a question about being new to the diet. I'm feeling fatigued, stuffy-headed and unable to think clearly. Some of it may be die-off, though I had already eliminated potatoes and most wheat. I am eating red meat to get the amino acid that's supposed to keep my mood elevated. But I feel lethargic and anxious. Any thoughts? Kelley > Re: flushes,,, the gallbladder flush (Heidi's? step 3) sounds worth a > try... are there any recommendations for good kidney and liver flushes as well? > For those of us who have never flushed and no diagnosed > kidney/liver/gallbladder issues ! just want clean organs! You're all great,, thanks for all > the help !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 LOL , what a great post. Extra water it is, then...from the front end. And more fun-type exercise. I think I can handle that. Thanks! Kelley > more water starlet!!!...orally that is. This always helps my stuffy- headed episodes; I get those some mornings after breaking the 3/4 cup of wine limit before dinner rule and also when I was a mocha fiend not so very long ago (the enemas just were not as satisfying without the whipped cream and chocolate), butt (pun intended) lethargy may also improve with some extra H20. I think you probably are detoxing a little more quickly than your body can hide; more water and lots more oxygen....try some deep breathing, a brisk walk, Iyengar yoga, sex or a scary movie (not necessarily in that order). I enjoy a sporting sword fight with the wife to ward off lethargy but I'm sure you will enjoy exploring what works best for you. Don't worry...this too will pass. > Be careful...those coffee enemas could be addictive...are you using decaf? > Jolly good..... , nonnie-O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I am in the middle of flush 48 and still having hundreds of stones passing. I have probably passed more than 10,000 stones in the last 18 months. I have been told that at this point I am not passing stones, but passing a bile & olive oil ball. The ball is formed as I use the olive oil & lemon juice mixture, so I am told. I am totally confused at this point of why I am having to do so many flushes. My gut feeling (no pun intended) is I am still passing legitiment gall bladder stones. Please shed some light someone on what is going on with my gall bladder and/or my liver. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hi , Once you catch up and flush the stones out faster than they are made, you will flush only few stones you have made since the last flush. If you have changed your diet enough to stop making stones you will get none. That is when you may want to flush once or twice a year for maintnance. Best Regards, Vince > > I've just done my 7th flush and was hoping someone can tell me what happens when I do a flush after my gallbladder is empty of stones. Do you pass nothing? do you pass the olive oil? Any comments would be great. > Thanks, mike > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Dear Vince, Thank you for a very informed reply to my message. I am under the opinion by the color of my stones that there are not so many new stones being formed. Most are of light green or tan in color which was suggested by a clinical pathologist as being old stones. In speaking to me today, that she experienced a few gall bladder disease sufferers that had more than 20,000 old stones in their bodies. I am sure I have passed more than 10,000. She said this is unusual but very possible. She also said she had never run across anyone that had done 48 flushes or more and encouraged me to keep flushing until there are no more stones. She added that when I had arrived at zero stones to have a ultra sound done. With appreciation, -- In gallstones , " VR " <new_man85@...> wrote: > > Hi , > There's quite a controversy on this and at Curezone.com there is a > flush debate forum that explores whether or not the bile, olive oil, > and juice make green soft stones or not. They seem to have one single > actual unofficial test that, if it was legitamately done, seems to > indicate that at least some stones are made during a flush. Some > people have invented a definition out of thin air that only " hard > calcified stones " are really gall stones. This is not in agreement > with the medical definition nor is it in agreement with the actual > stones removed during surgery with no flush involved. The soft green > gall stones are made of cholesterol and bile (not olive oil and > grapefruit juice). These are real gall stones and exist whether or > not a flush is performed. > > I think that misses the point, though. Many people, myself and my > wife included, have flushed 7-13 times and started getting only a very > few stones out each flush. This is exactly what Dr. Hulda says > will happen and she's seen it in hundreds of flushes she has > supervised. She also supervised the changing of habits to reduce the > stone formation and that is essential to eliminating the stone > formation. Keep in mind: the flushes are done the same way on the > same body with the same ingredients and the stones are fewer and fewer > each time toward the end of the stone supply. Durning this time > health issues dissapear, energy levels go up, and health improves > drastically. Do I care if some stones are formed during a flush? No. > I care about increased health resulting from my flushes. That has > happened, so I don't worry about the debate. > > If the flush forms some stones, then that is a good thing which helps > eliminate toxins during a flush. The flush definitely eliminates any > existing stones unless the gall bladder and ducts are too diseased to > stretch. Some people that are so inclined catch and strain all their > stones so they know there are some that are hard that are flushed out. > Many like myself are content to know that all that nasty smelling > stuff is out of me, and the stones that float are all I want to see > until I flush them out of my life for good. > > The liver is getting rid of toxins continually, and apparently the > stone formation is one of the bodies ways of getting rid of the toxins > when there's an inbalence. It sounds like your body makes a lot of > stones fast, and even if some are made during the flush, you need to > change your body's environment so it doesn't make stones at all-none > during and none in between flushes. Then, you can enjoy very few > stones if any appearing during the flush. This will tell you > everything is getting better > > Best Regards, > Vince > > > > > > I am in the middle of flush 48 and still having hundreds of stones > > passing. > > I have probably passed more than 10,000 stones in the last 18 months. > > I have been told that at this point I am not passing stones, but > > passing a bile & olive oil ball. The ball is formed as I use the olive > > oil & lemon juice mixture, so I am told. > > I am totally confused at this point of why I am having to do so many > > flushes. > > My gut feeling (no pun intended) is I am still passing legitiment gall > > bladder stones. > > Please shed some light someone on what is going on with my gall > > bladder and/or my liver. > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 , when you do have the ultrasound PLEASE post the results to this list! -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of Waters Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:27 PM gallstones Subject: Re: flushes Dear Vince, Thank you for a very informed reply to my message. I am under the opinion by the color of my stones that there are not so many new stones being formed. Most are of light green or tan in color which was suggested by a clinical pathologist as being old stones. In speaking to me today, that she experienced a few gall bladder disease sufferers that had more than 20,000 old stones in their bodies. I am sure I have passed more than 10,000. She said this is unusual but very possible. She also said she had never run across anyone that had done 48 flushes or more and encouraged me to keep flushing until there are no more stones. She added that when I had arrived at zero stones to have a ultra sound done. With appreciation, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Walter, this page is the flush with clear and precise directions. Follow them to the T, do not variate. You will feel better. http://www..net/en/cleanses_clean-ups/liver_cleanses/liver_cleanse.php >> Up until now I have only done several commercial liver flushes. ..> > I have read, and am now reading that a flush of kidney, bowls, liver, etc is a very good and effective thing to do... Not just for those of us with HCV, but for genera health..> > I would appreciate everyone input and possible suggestions for he different flushes.> > ONE THING in particular is that they should/must be an order in which these flushes should be done for max effectiveness.> > From our home to your home, we pray and speak blessings, success and prosperity.> > Walter L. Scheu, Sr., Th.D.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 See this is what I am asking about.So it looks like I need to find a cleanse for the parasites, then the kidneys, and then the liver? Am I missing anything?..."But it should not be done before the parasite program, and for best results should follow the kidney cleanse. .."From our home to your home, we pray and speak blessings, success and prosperity.Walter L. Scheu, Sr., Th.D.From: bucaman@... <bucaman@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Flushes Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 10:25 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I guess now I need to find either a commercial or home remedy for Bowl, Parasite and Kidneys.....Gonna Have fun. Me and bathroom spend a lot of time toghether From our home to your home, we pray and speak blessings, success and prosperity.Walter L. Scheu, Sr., Th.D.From: bucaman@... <bucaman@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Flushes Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 10:25 PM Walter, this page is the flush with clear and precise directions. Follow them to the T, do not variate. You will feel better. http://www.. net/en/cleanses_ clean-ups/ liver_cleanses/ liver_cleanse. php >> Up until now I have only done several commercial liver flushes. ..> > I have read, and am now reading that a flush of kidney, bowls, liver, etc is a very good and effective thing to do... Not just for those of us with HCV, but for genera health..> > I would appreciate everyone input and possible suggestions for he different flushes.> > ONE THING in particular is that they should/must be an order in which these flushes should be done for max effectiveness.> > From our home to your home, we pray and speak blessings, success and prosperity.> > Walter L. Scheu, Sr., Th.D.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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