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No Mam,

I have every right to point out the lunacy of interfering with the " normal "

functioning of the human body, and the potential consequences thereof. Why?

Because I get to see it everyday and try to help the people who have, through

the process of regaining an amount of health and comfort with the now

compromised body. I would rather have a vehement argument with you about the

potential long term effects than have you wheeled into my place with a

basketball sized tumor, a months to live diagnosis, a ten year old daughter, and

a petrified husband. Considering that our dear lovely FDA approved HRT, and the

incidence of breast cancer went down over 10,000 cases in the first year after

the link between breast cancer and HRT finally became public in mainstream media

(the science had been there for years), the concern that this newly approved

abomination of science and medicine may have serious long term effects is very

well founded.

This is the point of this group. Whether you decide to keep your

gallbladder or not is up to you, but when you come to this group asking for

advise you are going to get it. While you may not like the tone of some, it is

proffered out of love, caring, and in most cases experience.

It is not normal to have torture, dehabilitating cramps, mood swings,

migraines, etc. It indicates a dysfunction. And if 90% of the women in a

particular culture experience this it may be the norm depending on your

definition of the word, but not the functioning of a " normal " reproductive

system. The above can be the consequences of gallbladder problems, hence fat

digestion problems, hence irregular hormone production, etc.

Caveat emptor. If you buy in to what either your government or mainstream

medicine tells you without searching for the " truth " yourself, please look out

for steep slopes.

Always, in

all ways,

-Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: <mailto:vespermg@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:46 PM

Subject: Re: Question - people who had surgery

Okay, now I am taking offense at the comments about women eliminating

their menstrual cycles for 'convenience'.

There are many women who's menstrual cycle is a torture, plagued by

debilitating cramps and migraines, among other issues. You have no

right to insult anyone who chooses to take a drug that can better

their quality of life.

The same way no one should ever question you doing what you do. If

the women choose to do it and take the risk to their life, so be it.

You have no right to complain or say anything about it.

Gabe

>

> Some doctors are recommending that women that are of supposed high

risk of breast cancer prophylacticaly have their breasts removed.

Our wonderful federal watchdog agency commissioned to protect you

from bad drugs (FDA) has just approved a new drug to completely

eliminate women's menstrual cycles (hormonally) for convenience.

Keeping in mind that the number of new cases of breast cancer dropped

by over 10,000 in the first year that HRT was exposed as causing it.

Ludicrous. You can't keep lemmings from running over cliffs. -Dave

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Amber <mailto:amber@...>

> To:

gallstones <mailto:gallstones ><mailto:gallstones@\

<mailto:gallstones >>

> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:34 PM

> Subject: Re: Question - people who had surgery

>

>

> Holy toledo! I can't believe this! The GB serves an important

function and you should do everything in your power to keep it.

To " voluntarily " have it removed is unthinkable. You need some good

fats in your diet. Read " Low-Fat Lies, High-Fat Frauds " by

Vigilante, MD., MPH, and Flynn, PhD. Cholesterol meds are a scam

to get more people to buy expensive drugs. A total cholesterol of 300

used to be considered normal until the pharmaceutical companies

figured they could make a lot more money if they would lower the

normal figure. Exercise to get your HDL up. Take antifungals (either

Diflucan or Nystatin Rx from Dr.) or oil of wild oregano, apple cider

vinegar, garlic, etc. Take A-F Betafood from Standard Process Labs

for your GB. You say you'd rather lose your GB and hope ...what if

that doesn't do it? Then you are worse off. Do your research before

jumping into a surgery that you can never undo.

>

> Amber

>

> I'm going to voluntarily have my gall bladder removed. I just

want to

> hear about people's experiences who have had their gall bladder

removed.

>

> Yes, yes, everyone doesn't think it needs to be removed. I had a

gall

> bladder attack in July '06. Since then I have had out of control

> triglycerides. I am eating a low-fat, low-carb diet....have taken

> cholesterol meds...nothing seems to make a dent. I have even lost

31

> lbs since then and my triglycerides are still above 1100 and now

my HDL

> is less than 19 - at the time of my gall bladder attack, my

> triglycerides were 1585 with an HDL of 43....

>

> I'd rather lose my gall bladder and hope it positively affects my

> triglycerides than die of a heart attack.

>

> Gabe

>

> .

>

>

>

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