Re: Latest victim of gallbladder attack

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom,

The archives and links at the bottom of the page should get you to many of

the cleanses. Since you are not the typical profile of gallbladder, you might

consider a parasite cleanse as well. The question that arises is why you have

thickening of the walls as well, and this would make you suspicious of some kind

of infection whether bacterial, viral, fungal, or parasitical. Did the

antibiotics help the symptoms? Starting with a program of liver cleansing anti

microbial herbs is also an option. The more work you are able to do before a

cleanse, the smoother and more effective. It is also possible to clean the

whole situation up this way with never doing a " cleanse " . The allopathic

viewpoint that the only treatment effective for gallbladder disease is resection

is complete unadulterated crap. I was watching a program on the history of

surgery and believe me resection only became viable in terms of technique and

sanitation over the past 120 years ago. What would they have done before?

Surgery is simple and if it is all you are trained in and what you do for a

living it is going to be the only option. I would not ask a carpet layer if I

should put in hardwood floors.

Of interest to many in this group, check out this link to some blood

parasite pics (beautiful), by Ingrid Naimans. She by the way is one of the best

authorities on escharotic salves for cancer.

http://www.darkfieldstudies.com/flash/parasites_slide.swf<http://www.darkfieldst\

udies.com/flash/parasites_slide.swf>

Always, in all

ways,

-Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: brwntms<mailto:brwntms@...>

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Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:10 AM

Subject: Latest victim of gallbladder attack

Hi,

I recently had a bad attack that left me in hospital for a week on

antibiotics. It was only my second ever and was 2 weeks after my

first attack. I am male, 36, not overweight (5'10 " and 10.5 stone).

Ultrasound showed inflamation and gallbladder walls thicker

than " normal " ???? whatever that means. It didnt show any stones but

I was told this is normal enough not to see them.

The thing is the hospital have scheuled me back for an operation to

remove the gall bladder in 2 weeks time.

I do sometimes feel mild sensations in my gall bladder but from what

i've been reading I think I can avoid this surgery.

Can anyone advise me on this cleanse. I read somewhere about someone

who had an attack and tried the cleanse but he ended up in hospital

in an emergency and had his gall bladder removed straight away.

I'm wondering how likely this is for me. If I have stones in the

duct that the ultrasound did not show could I have the same problem

or is my best bet to just do the cleanse.

I would appreciate any comments or advice here. Clock is ticking!!!

Thanks Tom

[Guest guest]

I was hospitalized twice last March, 2006 and was scheduled last May,

2006 for gall bladder removal. Because of my fear from blood and

operation, I did not pursue it. I'm OK now. I just evade from eating

beef and any food that are oily. I also drink a lot of water

everyday. But most of all, I always have an apple juice to drink in

a day. I stopped drinking beer and beverages, and replaced them with

apple juice. I am also more of vegetarian today, and if ever I want

meat, I only ate chicken meat. I am at work at this time. So, I

could not elaborate any further. But email me, coz I'll tell you

more about my struggle on my gallstone.

Jess

>

> Hi,

>

> I recently had a bad attack that left me in hospital for a week on

> antibiotics. It was only my second ever and was 2 weeks after my

> first attack. I am male, 36, not overweight (5'10 " and 10.5 stone).

> Ultrasound showed inflamation and gallbladder walls thicker

> than " normal " ???? whatever that means. It didnt show any stones but

> I was told this is normal enough not to see them.

> The thing is the hospital have scheuled me back for an operation to

> remove the gall bladder in 2 weeks time.

> I do sometimes feel mild sensations in my gall bladder but from

what

> i've been reading I think I can avoid this surgery.

> Can anyone advise me on this cleanse. I read somewhere about

someone

> who had an attack and tried the cleanse but he ended up in hospital

> in an emergency and had his gall bladder removed straight away.

> I'm wondering how likely this is for me. If I have stones in the

> duct that the ultrasound did not show could I have the same problem

> or is my best bet to just do the cleanse.

> I would appreciate any comments or advice here. Clock is ticking!!!

> Thanks Tom

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom,

10.5 mm stone, is it just one? I have 4, 2 are around 9mm and two around

2-3mm. I just had another ultrasound and it said the common bild duct is no

larger than 4mm. i don't know if that's normal or not... Well two of my stones

are twice as big as that

It sounds like your galbladder became inflammed/infected ? My cousin (doctor)

said that's the risky part because it can spread to the pancreas. if you want to

wait on surgery and try other methods, i suggest you try and keep your stomach

'moving'.... drink lots of water and hot teas and natural

antioxidants/antibacterials. try to avoid foods that cause your attacks as well.

and if you do try the flush, make sure you take epsom salt to open the duct so

the stone doesn't get stuck. but try to break the stone(s) first!

good luck!

shefy

Jess Guim <jessguim@...> wrote:

I was hospitalized twice last March, 2006 and was scheduled last May,

2006 for gall bladder removal. Because of my fear from blood and

operation, I did not pursue it. I'm OK now. I just evade from eating

beef and any food that are oily. I also drink a lot of water

everyday. But most of all, I always have an apple juice to drink in

a day. I stopped drinking beer and beverages, and replaced them with

apple juice. I am also more of vegetarian today, and if ever I want

meat, I only ate chicken meat. I am at work at this time. So, I

could not elaborate any further. But email me, coz I'll tell you

more about my struggle on my gallstone.

Jess

>

> Hi,

>

> I recently had a bad attack that left me in hospital for a week on

> antibiotics. It was only my second ever and was 2 weeks after my

> first attack. I am male, 36, not overweight (5'10 " and 10.5 stone).

> Ultrasound showed inflamation and gallbladder walls thicker

> than " normal " ???? whatever that means. It didnt show any stones but

> I was told this is normal enough not to see them.

> The thing is the hospital have scheuled me back for an operation to

> remove the gall bladder in 2 weeks time.

> I do sometimes feel mild sensations in my gall bladder but from

what

> i've been reading I think I can avoid this surgery.

> Can anyone advise me on this cleanse. I read somewhere about

someone

> who had an attack and tried the cleanse but he ended up in hospital

> in an emergency and had his gall bladder removed straight away.

> I'm wondering how likely this is for me. If I have stones in the

> duct that the ultrasound did not show could I have the same problem

> or is my best bet to just do the cleanse.

> I would appreciate any comments or advice here. Clock is ticking!!!

> Thanks Tom

>

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Hi Shefy,

The cost of the Gallcleanse is an interesting question. On two websites that

you cannot order from, it says you can get a three month suppy for $147.

Unfortunately, you have to call a representative and they will tell you it costs

$247 for the three month supply. I went round and round with this lady - who

was very polite - and I remained polite - but could not convince her to sell me

the product for the advertised price. Soo..... I signed up for the monthly

autoship - free shipping and only $30 Per month and I can cancel at anytime -

which I plan to do after my third shipment arrives. This is a good deal since

they want to sell you one month at $67.

You're right about being careful with the herbs and my liver health. I guess

I am trusting that they know what they are talking about. They said it is very

safe. My plan is to take the product for 3 months and then get a new ultrasound

done. The company said they will refund every penny if my stones are not gone.

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Looking forward to hear about the results.

Does anyone here have gallstones and a distended gall bladder? I guess I have

to go the surgery route because I can feel it pressing against my internal

glands. Any thoughts anyone???

-----Original Message-----

From: mlittlejohn1985@...

gallstones

Sent: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 9:42 AM

Subject: Re: Latest victim of gallbladder attack

Hi Shefy,

The cost of the Gallcleanse is an interesting question. On two websites that

you cannot order from, it says you can get a three month suppy for $147.

Unfortunately, you have to call a representative and they will tell you it costs

$247 for the three month supply. I went round and round with this lady - who was

very polite - and I remained polite - but could not convince her to sell me the

product for the advertised price. Soo..... I signed up for the monthly autoship

- free shipping and only $30 Per month and I can cancel at anytime - which I

plan to do after my third shipment arrives. This is a good deal since they want

to sell you one month at $67.

You're right about being careful with the herbs and my liver health. I guess I

am trusting that they know what they are talking about. They said it is very

safe. My plan is to take the product for 3 months and then get a new ultrasound

done. The company said they will refund every penny if my stones are not gone.

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Weel, You can spend thousands of dollars on herbs & treatments not likely to be

of as much health benefit thatn Hulda 's liver flush which will cost you 2

pink grapefruits and 4 tablespoons of Epsom salts.

Littlejohn <mlittlejohn1985@...> wrote: Hi Shefy,

The cost of the Gallcleanse is an interesting question. On two websites that you

cannot order from, it says you can get a three month suppy for $147.

Unfortunately, you have to call a representative and they will tell you it costs

$247 for the three month supply. I went round and round with this lady - who was

very polite - and I remained polite - but could not convince her to sell me the

product for the advertised price. Soo..... I signed up for the monthly autoship

- free shipping and only $30 Per month and I can cancel at anytime - which I

plan to do after my third shipment arrives. This is a good deal since they want

to sell you one month at $67.

You're right about being careful with the herbs and my liver health. I guess I

am trusting that they know what they are talking about. They said it is very

safe. My plan is to take the product for 3 months and then get a new ultrasound

done. The company said they will refund every penny if my stones are not gone.

---------------------------------

Be a PS3 game guru.

Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games.

[Guest guest]

Using GallCleanse is much better (if it works well), as it first dissolves the

stones to sand and then expells them out, as compared to liver flushes in which

stones of 3cm or more come out (if they are real gallstones) (u can get scared

to see the pics of gallstones).

By using GallCleanse or other herbs, u are striking at the root cause of all

this, THE LIVER,

These days, I am using some ayurvedic capsules (in India), which contain

around 25 herbs, for the well being of my liver.

i am doing this, as i think, the bad gall creates stones, and good gall

dissolves stones.

so, i am trying to treat my liver, which will create good bile to dissolve

stones.

what else u want? (The company will refund every penny, if ur gallstones are

not gone)

BACHCHE KI JAAN LOGAY KYA? (Do u want their life?)

Kishan Singh

Delhi

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[Guest guest]

What do you mean, if they are real gallstones? What else would they

be? I'm asking because I did three gallstone flushes after my first and

only attack last March 12 and I've been passing yellow stones ever

since. My doctor said they are not gallstones. What else could they be?

Amber

Kishan Singh wrote:

> Using GallCleanse is much better (if it works well), as it first

> dissolves the stones to sand and then expells them out, as compared to

> liver flushes in which stones of 3cm or more come out (if they are

> real gallstones) (u can get scared to see the pics of gallstones).

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

They're mixtures of substances from your stomach (not from your gall bladder or

liver) that sticked to the olive oil.

Amber <amber@...> wrote: What do you mean, if they are

real gallstones? What else would they

be? I'm asking because I did three gallstone flushes after my first and

only attack last March 12 and I've been passing yellow stones ever

since. My doctor said they are not gallstones. What else could they be?

Amber

Kishan Singh wrote:

> Using GallCleanse is much better (if it works well), as it first

> dissolves the stones to sand and then expells them out, as compared to

> liver flushes in which stones of 3cm or more come out (if they are

> real gallstones) (u can get scared to see the pics of gallstones).

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/4/2007 8:49:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,

jessguim@... writes:

They're mixtures of substances from your stomach (not from your gall bladder

or liver) that sticked to the olive oil.

Well, I haven't been on here for a while because I don't have a GB anymore,

but it wasn't because I didn't try to save it. What put me under was having

two small gallstones that refused to pass through. Just little boogers.

They passed out of my GB into my common bile duct and caused my bile to back up

into my pancreas. I was a sick puppy!

However, when they went to take my GB out, I was totally stone free, period!

I had tried to save my GB for many years and do not regret trying. I had

many gallstones before I started flushing, then I went for a year without

flushing and took Beta-TCP when I ate and still watched my diet. But I

shouldn't

have waited a year. I'm thinking that I would still have my GB. Even when

I was fixing to have my GB out a day after the ERCP where they found one

stone that didn't pass (one of those little ones), the doctor said that my GB

showed no stones at all, do I still want it out. Well, I feared the thickening

walls of my GB because it can mean cancer or precancer, so I said, yeah, I

guess take it out.

Susie

[Guest guest]

I haven't drunk the olive oil in close to a year. How could oil that

long ago still be producing stones if it's from the olive oil.

Amber

Jess Guim wrote:

> They're mixtures of substances from your stomach (not from your gall

> bladder or liver) that sticked to the olive oil.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/5/2007 8:12:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,

amber@... writes:

So how do you feel now? Re watching your diet - what do you eat or not

eat? I'm very confused. I had my first and only GB attack last March

12. Did 3 flushes and still have my GB. I started passing yellow

stones every day after the first flush. Passed every day for many

months, but only pass some about twice a week now. However, a sonogram

showed that I'm still full of stones! I've read that I should not eat

eggs or meat. I don't know what to eat. Thanks.

Hi, Amber:

I still eat healthy. I can't take greasy foods, but anything olive oil

doesn't bother me. I also take digestive enzymes that I get from the health

food

store. Actually I felt better with my GB, I really did. I was eating very,

very healthy then and juicing and stuff. I tried to at least say on Dr.

Cabot's liver-cleansing diet. I did her stricter plan on cleansing first, then

I ate by her basic diet. For two weeks before a cleanse I would drink a

quart of organic apple juice every day. That always seemed to help me.

Well, I passed those light green blob things. Maybe the next time I'd pass

all that sand-looking stuff and a few yellow stones. But one time I passed

these huge dark-green, turquoise stones. One was about an inch or more. They

smelled awful. No telling how long they had been around. But that was one

time that after my cleanse that I felt so good. However, passing those made

me extremely sore like I had done a bunch of sit-ups.

I'm pretty convinced that the cleansing works. Had I managed to get those

two little stones to pass, I would still have my GB. I did pass one in the

hospital and didn't know it. But the other one must have moved and it allowed

my bile to pass, but they went in and got it with the ERCP.

Susie

[Guest guest]

So how do you feel now? Re watching your diet - what do you eat or not

eat? I'm very confused. I had my first and only GB attack last March

12. Did 3 flushes and still have my GB. I started passing yellow

stones every day after the first flush. Passed every day for many

months, but only pass some about twice a week now. However, a sonogram

showed that I'm still full of stones! I've read that I should not eat

eggs or meat. I don't know what to eat. Thanks.

Amber

>

>

> However, when they went to take my GB out, I was totally stone free,

> period!

> I had tried to save my GB for many years and do not regret trying. I had

> many gallstones before I started flushing, then I went for a year without

> flushing and took Beta-TCP when I ate and still watched my diet.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply. I'm sorry you ended up losing your GB. I've

passed hundreds of yellow stones, some were 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch long.

Passed a few green ones. I did 3 flushes using olive oil and lemon

juice. The 9 day flush required several herbs and diet restriction.

Last 2 days of it I could have nothing but liquids. Then the big

oil/lemon purge. I've read that I should not eat meat or eggs and I'm

wondering if anyone else adheres to that.

Amber

Tishri7@... wrote:

>

> Hi, Amber:

>

>

> Well, I passed those light green blob things. Maybe the next time I'd

> pass

> all that sand-looking stuff and a few yellow stones.

>

> I'm pretty convinced that the cleansing works. Had I managed to get those

> two little stones to pass, I would still have my GB.

>

> Susie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing. It seems that if we eat healthy, juice and do some

cleansing from time to time, we could live with our gall bladders and even some

stones.

-----Original Message-----

From: Tishri7@...

gallstones

Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:28 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Latest victim of gallbladder attack

In a message dated 2/5/2007 8:12:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,

amber@... writes:

So how do you feel now? Re watching your diet - what do you eat or not

eat? I'm very confused. I had my first and only GB attack last March

12. Did 3 flushes and still have my GB. I started passing yellow

stones every day after the first flush. Passed every day for many

months, but only pass some about twice a week now. However, a sonogram

showed that I'm still full of stones! I've read that I should not eat

eggs or meat. I don't know what to eat. Thanks.

Hi, Amber:

I still eat healthy. I can't take greasy foods, but anything olive oil

doesn't bother me. I also take digestive enzymes that I get from the health

food

store. Actually I felt better with my GB, I really did. I was eating very,

very healthy then and juicing and stuff. I tried to at least say on Dr.

Cabot's liver-cleansing diet. I did her stricter plan on cleansing first, then

I ate by her basic diet. For two weeks before a cleanse I would drink a

quart of organic apple juice every day. That always seemed to help me.

Well, I passed those light green blob things. Maybe the next time I'd pass

all that sand-looking stuff and a few yellow stones. But one time I passed

these huge dark-green, turquoise stones. One was about an inch or more. They

smelled awful. No telling how long they had been around. But that was one

time that after my cleanse that I felt so good. However, passing those made

me extremely sore like I had done a bunch of sit-ups.

I'm pretty convinced that the cleansing works. Had I managed to get those

two little stones to pass, I would still have my GB. I did pass one in the

hospital and didn't know it. But the other one must have moved and it allowed

my bile to pass, but they went in and got it with the ERCP.

Susie

[Guest guest]

I've symptotic gallstones. Can i get the GallCleanse in pharmacy

counter or subscribed by doctor.

Ismail

--- In gallstones , Kishan Singh <nimana_sikh@...>

wrote:

>

> Using GallCleanse is much better (if it works well), as it first

dissolves the stones to sand and then expells them out, as compared

to liver flushes in which stones of 3cm or more come out (if they are

real gallstones) (u can get scared to see the pics of gallstones).

>

> By using GallCleanse or other herbs, u are striking at the root

cause of all this, THE LIVER,

>

> These days, I am using some ayurvedic capsules (in India), which

contain around 25 herbs, for the well being of my liver.

>

> i am doing this, as i think, the bad gall creates stones, and

good gall dissolves stones.

>

> so, i am trying to treat my liver, which will create good bile to

dissolve stones.

>

> what else u want? (The company will refund every penny, if ur

gallstones are not gone)

>

> BACHCHE KI JAAN LOGAY KYA? (Do u want their life?)

>

> Kishan Singh

> Delhi

>

>

>

>

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now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

What does this mean? BACHCHE KI JAAN LOGAY KYA? (Do u want their life?)

Sabina ~

is_harun50 <is_harun50@...> wrote:

I've symptotic gallstones. Can i get the GallCleanse in pharmacy

counter or subscribed by doctor.

Ismail

--- In gallstones , Kishan Singh <nimana_sikh@...>

wrote:

>

> Using GallCleanse is much better (if it works well), as it first

dissolves the stones to sand and then expells them out, as compared

to liver flushes in which stones of 3cm or more come out (if they are

real gallstones) (u can get scared to see the pics of gallstones).

>

> By using GallCleanse or other herbs, u are striking at the root

cause of all this, THE LIVER,

>

> These days, I am using some ayurvedic capsules (in India), which

contain around 25 herbs, for the well being of my liver.

>

> i am doing this, as i think, the bad gall creates stones, and

good gall dissolves stones.

>

> so, i am trying to treat my liver, which will create good bile to

dissolve stones.

>

> what else u want? (The company will refund every penny, if ur

gallstones are not gone)

>

> BACHCHE KI JAAN LOGAY KYA? (Do u want their life?)

>

> Kishan Singh

> Delhi

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it

now.

>

>