Re: New Member: 3+ years of GB Pain and Misery

[Guest guest]

Kirstin-

My mother also got the point where her gall bladder was not

functioning (probably due to a stone clogging the piping) and had her

gall bladder removed. She could only eat Jell-O and that made her

sick too.

Perhaps the gall bladder flushes could work for you and remove/soften

that large stone you have. This group does have a lot of people who

have had success with flushes and can be a resource.

But don't be afraid to get it removed. Unfortunately if you are

significantly overweight, they cannot do it laparascopically

Gabe

>

> Hi

>

> I've just joined, and though I would introduce myself. I'm hoping

to

> find help/support and advice from this group.

>

> My name is Kirstin and I live in Central Scotland. In January 2004

I

> suffered a severe gall bladder attack, my liver function was

haywire

> and I was losing consciousness through shock. I ended up in a high

> dependency unit, and they diagnosed cholecystitis. When I went for

an

> ultrasound scan, no gall stones were found. I was discharged with

> antibiotics, and so started what has been over three years of pain

> and misery. I was only 21 at that point.

>

> I'm now 25. Over the past 3 years, I've been told that I have

nothing

> wrong, told I was just depressed among other things. I get regular

> attacks, and severe stomach problems (both ends). I've been on

> tramadol for the entire time, and have recently been prescribed

> pethidine and put on losec. This year I was finally diagnosed as

> having gall stones. After fighting for more tests to be done (and

at

> first being told no because they cost money) - I was sent for a

> isotope scan.

>

> During the isotope scan no gall bladder was seen at all, and I was

> called back two days later by a Dr to ''check my anatomy'' as he

> didn't believe I had a gall bladder. He had a good look and found a

> stone blocking the neck of the gall bladder, which he believes has

> been there for the entire three years.

>

> I'm overweight, and find it hard to reduce my weight - I find

> exercising difficult due to pain I get (Even though I own 2 horses

> and would ride/work with them daily if I could), and my diet has

been

> reduced to mainly living on Pepsi. I get a lot of bother with foods

> causing intense pain. I tend to have a diet of Pepsi and toast.

When

> I asked my consultant about a liquid diet - since I realise

surviving

> on Pepsi isn't healthy - I was turned down.

>

> I saw a Dr on Monday about operating. I was told that I wouldn't be

> operated on due to my weight. I have a strong, healthy heart - and

am

> healthy otherwise apart from my gall bladder. I am reasonably fit,

> and have been gradually losing weight. I fought with him - and he

> finally conceded (after I threatened to sue) to put me forward for

> heart/lung pre-op tests.

>

> I'm in constant pain with this. And I don't know what to do. I've

> looked at alternative therapies online, but never seen one that

> seemed to have believable testimonies of working. But I want my

life

> back. I'm currently 'on the sick'/unable to work, and I've lost 3

> years of my life to this. I used to be out-going, loved drinking

> (which I was told to stop due to my liver function) and

socialising.

> Now I spend most of my time indoors, with little social contact.

>

> I worry constantly about the thoughts of an operation, but at the

> same time - I can't go on like this. I want it to be gone.

>

> Anyways, sorry for the whiny post, but felt I should introduce

myself

> and my ''case''. I'd love to speak to people who have gall bladder

> problems, I feel I bore friends and family, and I don't like to

> show " weakness " so I find it difficult to admit to people here

> exactly how it effects me.

>

> Yours,

>

> Kirstin xx

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm sorry for your troubles but you must keep on fightinh and not give up.If

God created a problem he also provided soultion and it is upto us to find the

most appropriate one for us.

I would suggest you change your diet and modify your life-style a

little.Pepsi and toast will give you lot of indigestion.I've a diet which was

suggested by a Naturopath and works well for digestive problems.You can try it

for a while and see how things go.Some life style tips are also enclosed:

Diet Chart:

Morning after waking up :Eat two figs which have been soaked overnight in

water.You can drink this water also.Make sure the figs are clean.If clean dry

figs are not availabe you can use raisins (10-12).

Morning after going to the toilet: 2tsp of raw Amla (India goosbery) juice +

Honey (1 to 2 tsp).

Breakfast:Papaya and some other fruit (Pineapple is very good).Low fat

yougurt/curd

Mid morning:Soup of raw vegetables+Raw turmeric+Pinch of salt

+Ginger+Garlic(No other spices to be added)

Lunch:Brown Rice boiled with raw turmeric.Bowl of low fat curd.You can have

some boiled vegetable with this if you feel like.Again,add no other spices or

oil etc.

Evening:Coconut water/orange juice and a piece of fruit.dont take the canned

juice.Fresh juice should be made at home and consumed immediately.

Dinner:Boiled Barley Daliya/brown rice with boiled vegetable and low fat

curd.No oil or spices except little salt,raw turmerice,ginger and Garlic (in

moderation).

If you fell like eating something sweet you can take some Jaggery.No refined

sugars,chocolates,coffe,alcohol,smoking.You can have some good quiality Green

tea (1-2 cups).Avlod all refined food (especilaay toast ) and fizzy dinks

(pepsi).You can drink plenty of fresh fruit juices .

If you get cravings for Wheat,take home-made bread made of One part Whole

wheat+One part Wheat Bran+One part Barley Flour.No oil/fat to be added.

Drink at least 2-3 liters of pure water in a day.

Take B-Vitamin and folic acid supplemets (In consultation ith your doctor).

Try to walk outdoors for at least 30-45 minutes every day (You can do this

for 10 minutes 4-5 times a day for a total of 45 minutes).Take in plenty of

fresh air.Try to be close to nature in a green environment with a lot of

trees,flowers etc.

Do things which you like.Always be relaxed no matter what the situation.Do

deep breathing for a minute if you fell stress or anger.Think about something

pleasent when you are stressed or angry.

Listen to soothing music.Take warm baths.Keep your surroundings clean and

burn fragrances (lavender is very good) around you.Have fath in a higher power

and believe that you are being healed by it.

Godd luck!

Puneet

Kirstin <kirstin@...> wrote:

Hi

I've just joined, and though I would introduce myself. I'm hoping to

find help/support and advice from this group.

My name is Kirstin and I live in Central Scotland. In January 2004 I

suffered a severe gall bladder attack, my liver function was haywire

and I was losing consciousness through shock. I ended up in a high

dependency unit, and they diagnosed cholecystitis. When I went for an

ultrasound scan, no gall stones were found. I was discharged with

antibiotics, and so started what has been over three years of pain

and misery. I was only 21 at that point.

I'm now 25. Over the past 3 years, I've been told that I have nothing

wrong, told I was just depressed among other things. I get regular

attacks, and severe stomach problems (both ends). I've been on

tramadol for the entire time, and have recently been prescribed

pethidine and put on losec. This year I was finally diagnosed as

having gall stones. After fighting for more tests to be done (and at

first being told no because they cost money) - I was sent for a

isotope scan.

During the isotope scan no gall bladder was seen at all, and I was

called back two days later by a Dr to ''check my anatomy'' as he

didn't believe I had a gall bladder. He had a good look and found a

stone blocking the neck of the gall bladder, which he believes has

been there for the entire three years.

I'm overweight, and find it hard to reduce my weight - I find

exercising difficult due to pain I get (Even though I own 2 horses

and would ride/work with them daily if I could), and my diet has been

reduced to mainly living on Pepsi. I get a lot of bother with foods

causing intense pain. I tend to have a diet of Pepsi and toast. When

I asked my consultant about a liquid diet - since I realise surviving

on Pepsi isn't healthy - I was turned down.

I saw a Dr on Monday about operating. I was told that I wouldn't be

operated on due to my weight. I have a strong, healthy heart - and am

healthy otherwise apart from my gall bladder. I am reasonably fit,

and have been gradually losing weight. I fought with him - and he

finally conceded (after I threatened to sue) to put me forward for

heart/lung pre-op tests.

I'm in constant pain with this. And I don't know what to do. I've

looked at alternative therapies online, but never seen one that

seemed to have believable testimonies of working. But I want my life

back. I'm currently 'on the sick'/unable to work, and I've lost 3

years of my life to this. I used to be out-going, loved drinking

(which I was told to stop due to my liver function) and socialising.

Now I spend most of my time indoors, with little social contact.

I worry constantly about the thoughts of an operation, but at the

same time - I can't go on like this. I want it to be gone.

Anyways, sorry for the whiny post, but felt I should introduce myself

and my ''case''. I'd love to speak to people who have gall bladder

problems, I feel I bore friends and family, and I don't like to

show " weakness " so I find it difficult to admit to people here

exactly how it effects me.

Yours,

Kirstin xx

---------------------------------

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always stay connected to friends.

[Guest guest]

do you have any suggestions on where the items for the diet can be

found? some are very unusual...

--- In gallstones , Puneet kumar <kumarpuneet2004@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I'm sorry for your troubles but you must keep on fightinh and

not give up.If God created a problem he also provided soultion and

it is upto us to find the most appropriate one for us.

>

> I would suggest you change your diet and modify your life-style

a little.Pepsi and toast will give you lot of indigestion.I've a

diet which was suggested by a Naturopath and works well for

digestive problems.You can try it for a while and see how things

go.Some life style tips are also enclosed:

>

> Diet Chart:

>

> Morning after waking up :Eat two figs which have been soaked

overnight in water.You can drink this water also.Make sure the figs

are clean.If clean dry figs are not availabe you can use raisins (10-

12).

>

> Morning after going to the toilet: 2tsp of raw Amla (India

goosbery) juice + Honey (1 to 2 tsp).

>

> Breakfast:Papaya and some other fruit (Pineapple is very

good).Low fat yougurt/curd

>

> Mid morning:Soup of raw vegetables+Raw turmeric+Pinch of salt

+Ginger+Garlic(No other spices to be added)

>

> Lunch:Brown Rice boiled with raw turmeric.Bowl of low fat

curd.You can have some boiled vegetable with this if you feel

like.Again,add no other spices or oil etc.

>

> Evening:Coconut water/orange juice and a piece of fruit.dont take

the canned juice.Fresh juice should be made at home and consumed

immediately.

>

> Dinner:Boiled Barley Daliya/brown rice with boiled vegetable and

low fat curd.No oil or spices except little salt,raw

turmerice,ginger and Garlic (in moderation).

>

> If you fell like eating something sweet you can take some

Jaggery.No refined sugars,chocolates,coffe,alcohol,smoking.You can

have some good quiality Green tea (1-2 cups).Avlod all refined food

(especilaay toast ) and fizzy dinks (pepsi).You can drink plenty of

fresh fruit juices .

>

> If you get cravings for Wheat,take home-made bread made of One

part Whole wheat+One part Wheat Bran+One part Barley Flour.No

oil/fat to be added.

>

> Drink at least 2-3 liters of pure water in a day.

>

> Take B-Vitamin and folic acid supplemets (In consultation ith

your doctor).

>

> Try to walk outdoors for at least 30-45 minutes every day (You

can do this for 10 minutes 4-5 times a day for a total of 45

minutes).Take in plenty of fresh air.Try to be close to nature in a

green environment with a lot of trees,flowers etc.

>

> Do things which you like.Always be relaxed no matter what the

situation.Do deep breathing for a minute if you fell stress or

anger.Think about something pleasent when you are stressed or angry.

>

> Listen to soothing music.Take warm baths.Keep your surroundings

clean and burn fragrances (lavender is very good) around you.Have

fath in a higher power and believe that you are being healed by it.

>

> Godd luck!

>

> Puneet

>

>

> Kirstin <kirstin@...>

wrote: Hi

>

> I've just joined, and though I would introduce myself. I'm hoping

to

> find help/support and advice from this group.

>

> My name is Kirstin and I live in Central Scotland. In January

2004 I

> suffered a severe gall bladder attack, my liver function was

haywire

> and I was losing consciousness through shock. I ended up in a

high

> dependency unit, and they diagnosed cholecystitis. When I went

for an

> ultrasound scan, no gall stones were found. I was discharged with

> antibiotics, and so started what has been over three years of

pain

> and misery. I was only 21 at that point.

>

> I'm now 25. Over the past 3 years, I've been told that I have

nothing

> wrong, told I was just depressed among other things. I get

regular

> attacks, and severe stomach problems (both ends). I've been on

> tramadol for the entire time, and have recently been prescribed

> pethidine and put on losec. This year I was finally diagnosed as

> having gall stones. After fighting for more tests to be done (and

at

> first being told no because they cost money) - I was sent for a

> isotope scan.

>

> During the isotope scan no gall bladder was seen at all, and I

was

> called back two days later by a Dr to ''check my anatomy'' as he

> didn't believe I had a gall bladder. He had a good look and found

a

> stone blocking the neck of the gall bladder, which he believes

has

> been there for the entire three years.

>

> I'm overweight, and find it hard to reduce my weight - I find

> exercising difficult due to pain I get (Even though I own 2

horses

> and would ride/work with them daily if I could), and my diet has

been

> reduced to mainly living on Pepsi. I get a lot of bother with

foods

> causing intense pain. I tend to have a diet of Pepsi and toast.

When

> I asked my consultant about a liquid diet - since I realise

surviving

> on Pepsi isn't healthy - I was turned down.

>

> I saw a Dr on Monday about operating. I was told that I wouldn't

be

> operated on due to my weight. I have a strong, healthy heart -

and am

> healthy otherwise apart from my gall bladder. I am reasonably

fit,

> and have been gradually losing weight. I fought with him - and he

> finally conceded (after I threatened to sue) to put me forward

for

> heart/lung pre-op tests.

>

> I'm in constant pain with this. And I don't know what to do. I've

> looked at alternative therapies online, but never seen one that

> seemed to have believable testimonies of working. But I want my

life

> back. I'm currently 'on the sick'/unable to work, and I've lost 3

> years of my life to this. I used to be out-going, loved drinking

> (which I was told to stop due to my liver function) and

socialising.

> Now I spend most of my time indoors, with little social contact.

>

> I worry constantly about the thoughts of an operation, but at the

> same time - I can't go on like this. I want it to be gone.

>

> Anyways, sorry for the whiny post, but felt I should introduce

myself

> and my ''case''. I'd love to speak to people who have gall

bladder

> problems, I feel I bore friends and family, and I don't like to

> show " weakness " so I find it difficult to admit to people here

> exactly how it effects me.

>

> Yours,

>

> Kirstin xx

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and

> always stay connected to friends.

>

>

[Guest guest]

You should get them at most grocery stores/Health stoers/super

markets/Organic food stores.Which items do you find unusual?

Hi

> >

> > I've just joined, and though I would introduce myself. I'm hoping

> to

> > find help/support and advice from this group.

> >

> > My name is Kirstin and I live in Central Scotland. In January

> 2004 I

> > suffered a severe gall bladder attack, my liver function was

> haywire

> > and I was losing consciousness through shock. I ended up in a

> high

> > dependency unit, and they diagnosed cholecystitis. When I went

> for an

> > ultrasound scan, no gall stones were found. I was discharged with

> > antibiotics, and so started what has been over three years of

> pain

> > and misery. I was only 21 at that point.

> >

> > I'm now 25. Over the past 3 years, I've been told that I have

> nothing

> > wrong, told I was just depressed among other things. I get

> regular

> > attacks, and severe stomach problems (both ends). I've been on

> > tramadol for the entire time, and have recently been prescribed

> > pethidine and put on losec. This year I was finally diagnosed as

> > having gall stones. After fighting for more tests to be done (and

> at

> > first being told no because they cost money) - I was sent for a

> > isotope scan.

> >

> > During the isotope scan no gall bladder was seen at all, and I

> was

> > called back two days later by a Dr to ''check my anatomy'' as he

> > didn't believe I had a gall bladder. He had a good look and found

> a

> > stone blocking the neck of the gall bladder, which he believes

> has

> > been there for the entire three years.

> >

> > I'm overweight, and find it hard to reduce my weight - I find

> > exercising difficult due to pain I get (Even though I own 2

> horses

> > and would ride/work with them daily if I could), and my diet has

> been

> > reduced to mainly living on Pepsi. I get a lot of bother with

> foods

> > causing intense pain. I tend to have a diet of Pepsi and toast.

> When

> > I asked my consultant about a liquid diet - since I realise

> surviving

> > on Pepsi isn't healthy - I was turned down.

> >

> > I saw a Dr on Monday about operating. I was told that I wouldn't

> be

> > operated on due to my weight. I have a strong, healthy heart -

> and am

> > healthy otherwise apart from my gall bladder. I am reasonably

> fit,

> > and have been gradually losing weight. I fought with him - and he

> > finally conceded (after I threatened to sue) to put me forward

> for

> > heart/lung pre-op tests.

> >

> > I'm in constant pain with this. And I don't know what to do. I've

> > looked at alternative therapies online, but never seen one that

> > seemed to have believable testimonies of working. But I want my

> life

> > back. I'm currently 'on the sick'/unable to work, and I've lost 3

> > years of my life to this. I used to be out-going, loved drinking

> > (which I was told to stop due to my liver function) and

> socialising.

> > Now I spend most of my time indoors, with little social contact.

> >

> > I worry constantly about the thoughts of an operation, but at the

> > same time - I can't go on like this. I want it to be gone.

> >

> > Anyways, sorry for the whiny post, but felt I should introduce

> myself

> > and my ''case''. I'd love to speak to people who have gall

> bladder

> > problems, I feel I bore friends and family, and I don't like to

> > show " weakness " so I find it difficult to admit to people here

> > exactly how it effects me.

> >

> > Yours,

> >

> > Kirstin xx

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and

> > always stay connected to friends.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

hi kirstin

i'm kind of in the same boat as you, but for longer. my pains started when i

was only about 15, and i'm now 23....i've been diagnosed with gallstones as well

but am reluctant to give it up. i can usually contorl it with diet but last year

it got out of control when i was in school. now i've developed what seems to be

candidiasis...it sucks big time.

i'm currently trying homeopathy to dissolve the stones. the last time i tried

the flush i got pathetically nauseous and ended up vomitting for hours...really.

it was so scary. i'm not trying to scare you but just be careful. so i thought

to myself what did i do wrong? i had done it a few times before but never got a

reaction like that...so i went in for another ultrasound and they said i have 4

stones...2 are bigger than the opening of hte gallbladder itself. so i need to

break them first and then flush. i think everyone should make their stones as

little as possible to reduce discomfort and risk of infection or whatever...

i don't think pepsi is good for you either i replaced it with 100%

martinelli's apple cider and it's great. i do drink pepsi once in a blue moon

though i admit hehe... also i find when my gallbladder is aching that exercise

seems to help it...i don't know if anyone else experiences this...

good that you are fighting your doctors, if it was up to them many of us would

be in worse conditions with one less organ and i totally undersatnd about the

family thing, i've pretty much stopped talking about it with them as well... we

are here for you!

keep us posted and get a change on yoru diet girl! it helps a lot avoid

gasy foods as that can mimic our gallbladder pains... my brother in law told me

a great quote, you should eat to live, not live to eat.

best

shefy

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[Guest guest]

That is so true. I had my first and only GB attach March 12, 2006. Was in ER

and then admitted to the hospital. After all kinds of tests, my doctor came in

and said I needed surgery. I said, " No, I'm going to go home and do some

research first. " I still have my GB!

Amber

good that you are fighting your doctors, if it was up to them many of us would

be in worse conditions with one less organ

.

[Guest guest]

>

> hi kirstin

>

> i'm kind of in the same boat as you, but for longer. my pains started

when i was only about 15, and i'm now 23....i've been diagnosed with

gallstones as well but am reluctant to give it up. i can usually contorl

it with diet but last year it got out of control when i was in school.

now i've developed what seems to be candidiasis...it sucks big time.

>

> i'm currently trying homeopathy to dissolve the stones. the last time

i tried the flush i got pathetically nauseous and ended up vomitting for

hours...really. it was so scary. i'm not trying to scare you but just be

careful. so i thought to myself what did i do wrong? i had done it a few

times before but never got a reaction like that...so i went in for

another ultrasound and they said i have 4 stones...2 are bigger than the

opening of hte gallbladder itself. so i need to break them first and

then flush. i think everyone should make their stones as little as

possible to reduce discomfort and risk of infection or whatever...

>

> i don't think pepsi is good for you either i replaced it with 100%

martinelli's apple cider and it's great. i do drink pepsi once in a blue

moon though i admit hehe... also i find when my gallbladder is aching

that exercise seems to help it...i don't know if anyone else experiences

this...

>

> good that you are fighting your doctors, if it was up to them many of

us would be in worse conditions with one less organ and i totally

undersatnd about the family thing, i've pretty much stopped talking

about it with them as well... we are here for you!

>

> keep us posted and get a change on yoru diet girl! it helps a lot

avoid gasy foods as that can mimic our gallbladder pains... my brother

in law told me a great quote, you should eat to live, not live to eat.

>

> best

> shefy

>

>

>

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