Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hi Sheila, Apologies in the delay in responding to your message but I've been away. Yes, it shouldn't be so difficult, should it? Without divulging too much personal info, I have a family member in Australia who has been treated poorly by her doc when it comes to her thyroid condition (hypothyroid), so you are right, it doesn't seem to matter what country you live in. The doc recently told that she shouldn't ever expect to feel better. I talk to my relative regularly and I pass on any info that I learn about the condition, tests to have, etc. I guess I'm one of the lucky one's because even though I don't feel 'fabulous' yet and still have a long way to go, I have two doctors who are willing to try and help me. In turn I can pass on info to my relative. My 'usual' GP is a person who is really easy to communicate with and he tries and tries to help his patients, including me. My doc's books have been closed for about a year or more now because he can't take on any more patients. He is willing to listen and work with his patients to try and resolve health issues. He is completely happy to refer me to a naturopath when he thinks they will be of assistance, as well as other health practitioners. I felt that we got to a point where I needed extra help, so I went to see another doc for further advice and assistance. I borrowed one of his books and a patient had written something about him being 'an angel on earth' or something like that, so that gives you an idea of what he is like. I'm very grateful to him for various health issues that he has helped me with. I have seen a second doc now for a few appts who specialises in hormone stuff. I'm trying out the regime she has suggested and drum roll please.... This is day 26 of my cycle and I haven't got my period yet. Yay! My period has been irregular for well over 12 months and can commence on day 19, 21, 23, 26. So, to NOT have my period yet is quite amazing. I'm also taking the T3 and over the last couple of days actually feel like I have a little more energy. I haven't got it all right yet, by any stretch, but at least I feel like I'm getting SOMEWHERE. Thanks to these doctors I now have some of my other health issues cleared up, and am on the way to SLOWLY feeling a bit better re my thyroid condition. P ....................................................... I had no idea you lived in Australia Pat, I always imagined you just down the road. Seems things are no different the world over regarding the appalling lack of diagnosis and treatment of hypothyroidism, and I seriously wonder WHY. I hate conspiracy theories, but .... Luv - Sheila > It shouldn't be this difficult for people in the UK and other > countries to seek and get quality health care for thyroid related > conditions. > > P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi Hope you dont mind me asking but does the GP provide armour for anyone or is just for you and people he knows? If my latest increase in thyroxine doesnt make a difference in the way I feel I am considering armour but dont have a clue about it or how to take it and I actually live in Lincoln, Lincolnshire! I feel unsure about taking it without supervision. notes at my local Group Practise will only prescribe Levthyroxine (I dont think they know much about Armour) so I obtain Armour from a GP in Lincolnshire who my sister used to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi , To be honest I do not know but I am going to email him and find out. Suzannesarah s <xxsarahxx_40@...> wrote: Hi Hope you dont mind me asking but does the GP provide armour for anyone or is just for you and people he knows? If my latest increase in thyroxine doesnt make a difference in the way I feel I am considering armour but dont have a clue about it or how to take it and I actually live in Lincoln, Lincolnshire! I feel unsure about taking it without supervision. notes at my local Group Practise will only prescribe Levthyroxine (I dont think they know much about Armour) so I obtain Armour from a GP in Lincolnshire who my sister used to go to. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi , I live in Boston and no Dr here will prescribe it. luv Dee > > From: suegeoboo <suegeoboo@...> > Subject: To Sheila > thyroid treatment > Date: Monday, 30 June, 2008, 8:59 AM > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind and helpful reply. > > You asked how long I have been taking Armour, I think it is approx 14 > months. The reason I say " I think " is because I have to make my own > notes at my local Group Practise will only prescribe Levthyroxine (I > dont think they know much about Armour) so I obtain Armour from a GP > in Lincolnshire who my sister used to go to. I think he is semi > retired now but supplies Armour to me by post and is always there for > me either by email or telephone and he does this FOR FREE. What a > wonderful man! > > My last increase was 2/3 weeks ago (by 15mg) and I intend to increase > again soon by another 15mg which will take me up to 120mg per day. > > My group practice do give me blood tests but sometimes question me as > I am self treating with Armour and have shown dissaproval before > today. I dont know if they will give me extra test for T3, iron or > adrenal. Meanwhile I will check the FILES as you suggest. > > As regards supplements I take B-Complex B12 and I am going to back on > Q10. I will look into Selenium now too. Do you have any views on > Q10? > > I often feel guilty as there are people much worse off but I know I > am not living my life properly because something is stopping me doing > normal everyday things even when I am not tired. It is frustrating > and quite weird but I am determined to get through it and maybe then > I will be able to help people on this forum as you do. > > Love Suzanne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at http://uk.docs./ymail/new.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi What a small word, I am just down the road and my partner used to live in Boston and has family there! I havent tried to get it in Lincoln as not sure I need it, some days I feel fine on thyroxine, others not so good so maybe I am slowly getting there.--- On Mon, 30/6/08, Dee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008  Hi Many GP's are reluctant to prescribe Armour because it is not licensed. It isn't licensed because it has never required to be licensed. Only new drugs and 'old' grandfathered drugs that have had a problem now need to go through the new licensing procedure, but because Armour Thyroid has never had a problem, and it has been used safely and effectively, it has had no need to be licensed. Sadly, some drug companies who manufacture synthetic levothyroxine and some medical practitioners who profit from the drug companies have put down rumours in the past that Armour is not licensed because it has had potency problems in the past, and therefore, they have a fear that should they prescribe it for you, something might go wrong, and you would sue them. If you did this, their medical insurance would not cover them. All this is very sad, because Armour is a very safe and effective medication. However, having said that, some GP's and endocrinologists are happy to prescribe Armour, especially when they have seen the effect it has in restoring their patients health who did not do well on levothyroxine alone. Perhaps the best way to go about this is to ask your GP to refer you to a an endocrinologist of your choice (one who will work with you if you need Armour or synthetic T4/T3 combination) - you might have to travel to find one, but we do have a list of some doctors who will work with their patients in this way. You can now use 'Choose and Book' and see an endocrinologist of your choice. I do think all of this might be a bit early for you yet as you may do very well when you get on the right dose of levothyroxine that makes you well. The majority of sufferers do extremely well on thyroxine alone, and you might be one of them. You have to learn to be patient though - because it does take some time for your body to get used to it and you might need to check that your adrenals are OK and that you do not suffer with candida albicans. Have you also had your ferritin (stored iron) checked to see whether this is low or not. If not, I would suggest you get your GP to test this. If you do need to change over to natural thyroid extract - there is information in our FILES from this forum website in the document "How to Use Armour Thyroid" that tells you exactly how you should start taking it and how you should increase it. However, do talk to your GP first. Luv - Sheila Hi Hope you dont mind me asking but does the GP provide armour for anyone or is just for you and people he knows? If my latest increase in thyroxine doesnt make a difference in the way I feel I am considering armour but dont have a clue about it or how to take it and I actually live in Lincoln, Lincolnshire! I feel unsure about taking it without supervision. notes at my local Group Practise will only prescribe Levthyroxine (I dont think they know much about Armour) so I obtain Armour from a GP in Lincolnshire who my sister used to go to. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1526 - Release Date: 30/06/2008 08:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Hi Sheila Thanks for that reply, how long does it take to get on the right dose of thyroxine?! I have been on it 20 months now with 4 increases,the last one 2 weeks ago. I do know we have to be patient, but can be hard sometimes. I have just done an adrenal profile and am waiting for my results from NPTech labs,I sent the samples off yesterday. My ferritin was 51.7 at last test,is that too low? Should I buy an iron supplement? I dont think I have a candida problem. I shall carry on waiting for my next blood test in a month! Thanks notes at my local Group Practise will only prescribe Levthyroxine (I dont think they know much about Armour) so I obtain Armour from a GP in Lincolnshire who my sister used to go to. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1526 - Release Date: 30/06/2008 08:43 Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 ..... but we do have a list of some doctors who will work with their patients in this way..... Hi Sheila, I've finally got a referral to an endo through " choose and book " . Do you know whether there's an endo in my area (Lancashire) who may be sympathetic please? Thanks Pen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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