Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening

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Laurel,

You CAN pass a huge stone painlessly - I did it. True it got stuck - but it

passed painlessly when I just drank another dose of epsom salts in water. You

really should do a liver/gall bladder cleanse.

Laurel <lschoenrank@...> wrote:

My answer may not be popular, but here goes: Have you tried

Ibuprofen?

Let me explain why I said that. During the summer of 2006 I was

away visiting my in-laws when I had a dreadful gallbladder attack

and ended up in the hospital for 6 days on morphine. (Small local

hospital doesn't do surgery.) When I had to leave to travel home,

they gave me a last shot of morphine and a prescription for

Tylenol 3's and privately told me that if this wasn't sufficient pain

relief I could suppliment with Ibuprofen (Advil). What I discovered

over the course of the two-day car trip home was that the

Tylenol 3's didn't help much at all, but the Ibuprofen worked VERY

well! I guess because it's an anti-inflammatory.

They had already told me that my pain was from an inflamed

gallbladder and had me on antibiotics. They also told me that

my gallbladder was full of stones and sludge and I should get

it removed when I got home. My husband heard one doctor

mention " golf-ball sized " .

Well, I didn't/don't want to get my gallbladder removed, and

in the last year it's given me very little trouble. The stones are

still there, because I had another ultrasound and they tell me

that one of the stones is 4.1 centimeters across - that's about

1.6 inches!! That must be the one the doctor in the hospital

mentioned. Obviously, I can't pass a stone that big. But I've

had pain only a few times, and each time it's been completely

- and quickly - relieved with Ibuprofen and lying on my side

for awhile.

I wish the medical profession would consider finding ways to

break up the stones instead of removing the gallbladder.

Sorry for the long post.

Laurel

>

> Hi Everyone:

>

> Hope this message gets through since to propagate a message I usually spin

> off someone else's gallstones e-mail.

>

> Over the past month or two, my GB symtoms have worsened and I'm wondering how

> I can stem this problem and get it under control promptly. Been a member of

> this group for years, get and read most e-mails (so I'm a little up to date).

>

> These attacks come in " swells " lasting about 15 to 30 minutes, usually in

> morning but particularly at night. I flushed the other night at kept strict to

> the procedure and protocol. Was fine during flush, got some crud out. But my

> large stone (11mm a few years ago) I'm sure is still there. Seems no matter

what

> I eat these days prompts an attack to a greater or lesser degree.

>

> Day after flush, symtoms returned almost all day... but that's

> understandablle since I probably ate something I should not have.

>

> What's the aggressive thing to do at this point to begin seeing some results

> to allieve my discomfort which, so far, is marginally tolerable but getting

> worse with time... I can tell?

>

> Right now there's tightness in my gut... but I'm drinking coffee... so.

>

> Thanks everyone and I'll wait for your advises. Hoping to avoid surgery.

> Obviously, starting a regime of vitamins (A-F) can't begin today, etc., but

> perhaps there's some other things I can do. I have a well-equipped Wholefoods

> nearby, so...

>

> Why won't modern medicine lipo-crush these stones for us so we can pass

> them????...or at least get out stones out and leave the GB??? Yes, I now the

> sentiments here about the medical community.

>

> Regards,

>

> Fran

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You do not have to stop drinking several hours after eating. 30 minutes is

sufficient....

Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

I second the motion. -Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: CC<mailto:cobchc@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:28 AM

Subject: Re: GB symptoms worsening

I would ignore the advice of Jess...I usually ignore posts that are

not gramatically correct...but in this case advising someone to drink

lots of water after eating is just bad advice. Water dilutes the

digestive juices making it less likely that you will fully digest

your food. You should drink lots of water....but drink it one half

hour before eating....drink minimally while eating and hold off for

several hours afterword.

> Hi Everyone:

>

> Hope this message gets through since to propagate a message I

usually spin

> off someone else's gallstones e-mail.

>

> Over the past month or two, my GB symtoms have worsened and I'm

wondering how

> I can stem this problem and get it under control promptly. Been a

member of

> this group for years, get and read most e-mails (so I'm a little up

to date).

>

> These attacks come in " swells " lasting about 15 to 30 minutes,

usually in

> morning but particularly at night. I flushed the other night at

kept strict to

> the procedure and protocol. Was fine during flush, got some crud

out. But my

> large stone (11mm a few years ago) I'm sure is still there. Seems

no matter what

> I eat these days prompts an attack to a greater or lesser degree.

>

> Day after flush, symtoms returned almost all day... but that's

> understandablle since I probably ate something I should not have.

>

> What's the aggressive thing to do at this point to begin seeing

some results

> to allieve my discomfort which, so far, is marginally tolerable but

getting

> worse with time... I can tell?

>

> Right now there's tightness in my gut... but I'm drinking coffee...

so.

>

> Thanks everyone and I'll wait for your advises. Hoping to avoid

surgery.

> Obviously, starting a regime of vitamins (A-F) can't begin today,

etc., but

> perhaps there's some other things I can do. I have a well-equipped

Wholefoods

> nearby, so...

>

> Why won't modern medicine lipo-crush these stones for us so we can

pass

> them????...or at least get out stones out and leave the GB??? Yes,

I now the

> sentiments here about the medical community.

>

> Regards,

>

> Fran

>

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I would also pick my medical advisor very carefully. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Amber <mailto:amber@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:56 PM

Subject: Re: GB symptoms worsening

I did 3 flushes and my N.D. said I needed to let my GB rest for at least 6

months before doing another. Might be good to check with each person's medical

advisor.

Amber

I would just flush every 2 weeks until I had no more stones

.