Scared of Surgery...but in pain

[Guest guest]

after a year of attacks I was finally told I had gallstones in Sept 07.

Right away I was sent to see a surgeon and a date was scheduled,

needless to say I chickened out and cancelled surgery. The doctors have

me scared to death of all kinds of things that can happen to me if I

dont have surgery. But my doctor put me on urso pills to try to disolve

the stones. Ive been on this pill for about a month or so and I feel

very " achy " in my gut. I am on a fat free diet, Ive lost 20+ pounds. I

dont know if its the medicine causing the ache or what. I know I felt

better before the medicine and the fat free diet when I just had

attacks sometimes. Can anyone give me any advice?

[Guest guest]

I certainly hope you are getting some GOOD fats, like olive or flax oil,

avocados, nuts, etc.

Amber

I am on a fat free diet, Ive lost 20+ pounds. I

dont know if its the medicine causing the ache or what. I know I felt

better before the medicine and the fat free diet when I just had

attacks sometimes. Can anyone give me any advice?

.

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

Don't know what to call you but I don't want to use your email address.

The ursiolic acids may very well be what is causing your pain. If you take

Tums or other antacids you will negate their effect. It may not have been that

you chickened out, it might have been divine intervention. Can't recommend a

fat free diet when you have gallstones, you need quality oils to help move bile

in order to get rid of the stones. Weight loss is fantastic but can exacerbate

the stone issue. The Ursiolic acids your doctor has you on take a long time to

work. The methods here in the archives are much gentler on the system. Soften,

thin, dilute, increase, bile flow. Lecithin, malic acid, lots of water, high

quality oils, bile moving herbs and foods. Flush when you feel it is right.

Always, in all ways, -Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: witchyyybitch<mailto:witchyyybitch@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:28 PM

Subject: Scared of Surgery...but in pain

after a year of attacks I was finally told I had gallstones in Sept 07.

Right away I was sent to see a surgeon and a date was scheduled,

needless to say I chickened out and cancelled surgery. The doctors have

me scared to death of all kinds of things that can happen to me if I

dont have surgery. But my doctor put me on urso pills to try to disolve

the stones. Ive been on this pill for about a month or so and I feel

very " achy " in my gut. I am on a fat free diet, Ive lost 20+ pounds. I

dont know if its the medicine causing the ache or what. I know I felt

better before the medicine and the fat free diet when I just had

attacks sometimes. Can anyone give me any advice?

[Guest guest]

Yes, that shocked me, too. I don't know who put her on a fat free diet, but

that's absolutely the wrong thing to do. Olive oil, flax oil, avocadoes, nuts,

etc. are very good fats.

Amber

Can't recommend a fat free diet when you have gallstones, you need quality

oils to help move bile in order to get rid of the stones. -Dave

.

[Guest guest]

Gallstones can be removed easily and speedily at home.

There are many GB flushes to do. It is also very important to make

preparations for them too.

Getting some one to work on the points/meridians for the GB on the right

food are very important. Castor oil packs over the liver area, and diet

all play a role in helping you get rid of them.

Don't allow yourself to be scared in to removing the GB because it will

be the biggest mistake you have made. Just because the GB is gone, does

not mean the stones will not return. They only now will take up lodging

n the liver and that is bad. You will have health and eating problems

you never dreamed possible.

Let me recommend a drink to take that I have found easier to get down

and keep down.

Take one cup olive oil, 1/2 cup lemon juice, and 1/2 cup tomato juice

and put in a pint jar. This is taken when you are ready to lay down in

the bed for the night. Once you drink it dont get up for at least an

hour. Lay on the right side and this is very important because this

helps the mix to empty into the liver and GB area. They say pull your

knees up to the chest to force this over to the liver area.

During the day you need to drink lots of apple juice as it is a great

stimulant to the liver and the gallbladder. I believe it is 8 ounces of

juice one hour and 8 ounces water the next and so on through out the

day.

Avoid all saturated fats, fried foods, cheeses greasy meats and what

ever else that is greasy. This is what is causing the problem in the

first place.

In the morning after having the cocktail for bedtime, You need to drink

a heaping tablespoon of epsom salt in a 8 ounce glass of water with the

juice of half a lemon. Drink this first thing. It takes about an hour

for it to work on you. Be sure you are not going out for several hours.

Also it is very important that you drink a lot of water during this

first hour after the salts and all day long. The more water you drink

the better the results you will have. This water helps to keep you

hydrated, other wise you will lose lots of fluid during this dump. I

know I have done lots of these and know how they work. I too have also

thrown the cocktail up and it is not good. But that was before I added

the tomato juice to it.

Now, let me also say this. There is a slow way of doing this too.

You can start with this recipe for 2 months and then go with the big

cocktail I gave above.

This one here is easy to take and good tasting.

1 cup tomato juice 1/4 cup xtra virgin olive oil, 1 teaspoon tumeric,

and 2 pearls of garlic peeled and crushed and added. Blend all of this

in the blender till completely blended. Drink half of it first thing in

the morning. Wait 15 minutes and drink the rest of it. Wait 90 minutes

before eating or drinking any thing. Repeat this once a week for 2

months. Then do the major and you will really dump a lot. This is so

easy to take and actually

I like the taste of it so much I made a salad dressing of the recipe

by adding a little apple cider vinegar to it and a little salt. Great

over salads.

Hope this will help you.

--- In gallstones , " witchyyybitch " <witchyyybitch@...>

wrote:

>

> after a year of attacks I was finally told I had gallstones in Sept

07.

> Right away I was sent to see a surgeon and a date was scheduled,

> needless to say I chickened out and cancelled surgery. The doctors

have

> me scared to death of all kinds of things that can happen to me if I

> dont have surgery. But my doctor put me on urso pills to try to

disolve

> the stones. Ive been on this pill for about a month or so and I feel

> very " achy " in my gut. I am on a fat free diet, Ive lost 20+ pounds. I

> dont know if its the medicine causing the ache or what. I know I felt

> better before the medicine and the fat free diet when I just had

> attacks sometimes. Can anyone give me any advice?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi thats funny because my Dr. just told me to go on fat free diet untill I had

surgery.

----- Original Message ----

From: Amber <amber@...>

gallstones

Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 8:08:38 PM

Subject: Re: Scared of Surgery...but in pain

Yes, that shocked me, too. I don't know who put her on a fat free diet, but

that's absolutely the wrong thing to do. Olive oil, flax oil, avocadoes, nuts,

etc. are very good fats.

Amber

Can't recommend a fat free diet when you have gallstones, you need quality oils

to help move bile in order to get rid of the stones. -Dave

..

[Guest guest]

Well, gee, somehow I don't find that very funny. It's ignorant.

Amber

Hi thats funny because my Dr. just told me to go on fat free diet untill I had

surgery.

.

[Guest guest]

That's because the medical establishment is so damn myopic that they cannot see

past treating or avoiding a symptom. The theory is that if you do not consume

fats then you will not attempt to release large quantities of bile from the

gallbladder. This is true but you cannot release the contents of the

gallbladder if you do not run the lipids through the liver and create bile. If

the water is turned off to the toilet, you cannot flush it. Keep in mind that

their main treatment for gallbladder problems is to just remove the offending

organ. This from the same school of thought that for hundreds of years treated

everything with mercury (calumel), and blackballed the physician that suggested

they wash their hands before surgery. As Dr. Mendelssohn (sp?) said in his most

excellent book " The Confessions of a Medical Heretic " , " Medicine is not a

science in our country, it is a religion. " . To survive optimally, most of us

need to be responsible for our health and believe no one but educate ourselves

and make our own decisions. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: julia cameron<mailto:julielatinred@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Scared of Surgery...but in pain

Hi thats funny because my Dr. just told me to go on fat free diet untill I had

surgery.

----- Original Message ----

From: Amber <amber@...<mailto:amber@...>>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 8:08:38 PM

Subject: Re: Scared of Surgery...but in pain

Yes, that shocked me, too. I don't know who put her on a fat free diet, but

that's absolutely the wrong thing to do. Olive oil, flax oil, avocadoes, nuts,

etc. are very good fats.

Amber

Can't recommend a fat free diet when you have gallstones, you need quality

oils to help move bile in order to get rid of the stones. -Dave

.

[Guest guest]

FYI

Keep in mind that not all doctors are created equal and it sounds

like the one who recommended a fat free diet really is out of touch.

On Nov 17, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Amber wrote:

> Well, gee, somehow I don't find that very funny. It's ignorant.

>

> Amber

>

> Hi thats funny because my Dr. just told me to go on fat free diet

> untill I had surgery.

>

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I love what you wrote!

Amber

If the water is turned off to the toilet, you cannot flush it.

To survive optimally, most of us need to be responsible fo r our health and

believe no one but educate ourselves and make our own decisions. -D

.