Iodoral

[Guest guest]

I've heard of people having trouble getting to sleep because they took it too late in the day. Sorry don't know any more than that.-- prrkimme0461 <kimme0461@...> wrote: Is there a better time to take Iodoral than another? Like in the morning or evening, on an empty stomach, etc? I'm taking Armour Thyroid before bed. Thanks for any help. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

thank you!

[Guest guest]

Allyn,

Try Eidon silica-it works wonders for most digestive issues.

Rick

Re: Iodoral

Thanks Skipper. I don't have acid reflux and don't take anything. I

recently

had all kinds of tests done, but B12 level was not one of them. I'll bring

that up when I go for my appointment.

Mahin

Many hypothyroid patients have low B12 because their hydrochloric acid in

their stomach is low (yet this can cause acid reflux.)

Pepcid, nexxium and probably all the drugs for acid reflux are known to

interefere with B12 absorption.

Has your B12 level been tested to see if that's really the problem?

Skipper

[Guest guest]

Marie:-

I have hypothyroidism, and it was eventually discovered that I also

had vitamin B12 deficiency, where in my case I have vitamin B12

injections once every 8 weeks, as I have what is known as lack of the

intrinsic factor.

--------------------------------------

Skipper:-

A lot of things get better with thyroid treatment. If you were

diagnosed with lack of intrinsic factor, it wouldn't surprise me if

that changed once you got adequate thyroid treatment. (Not to

mention labs make mistakes.)

---------------------------------

Marie:-

My medical history is quite complicated, like many other thyroid

patients. I will try and make is simple. I had to terminate my

employment in 1986 as I was very ill, and I was not officially

diagnosed with hypothyroidism until 1996, which was in consequence

of my own medical research. Before I was officially diagnosed I

had been presribed Lipitor, a statin drug since 1992 to reduce high

cholesterol, little realizing at that time the significant health

problems it was causing me. It was approximately a year later,

after being officially diagnosed with hypothyroidism, in 1997, that

my vitamin B12 deficiency was officially diagnosed.

About three years ago, 2003, I felt as though I was either going to

have a heart attack or a stroke, so again because of my own medical

research I stopped taking that statin drug, (not Lipitor), that I

was taking at that point in time, and found that my health began to

improve. Also during that time I had changed doctors, where my new

doctor had got me to try about 3 other brands of statin drugs.

Therefore, last year after only taking that said 3rd brand for two

weeks, I was not only very ill by that time, but also I could barely

walk, as the muscles in legs were very weak, so naturally I stopped

taking that particular statin drug, and have not taken any since.

Therefore from 1997 until the present time I have been having

vitamin B12 injections. I was originally prescribed them once

every twelve weeks, and it took me a very long time to convince

doctors that I needed to have them more often, as I had hardly any

quality of life during those four weeks before my next injection was

due. I think the frequency of my injections were eventually

increased to once every eight weeks in 2001.

My present doctor wanted me to stop taking those vitamin B12

injections, but it was my nurse at that particular point in time who

arranged for that separate test for this lack of the intrinsic

factor, that was in 2003, which came back positive, and because of

that I was allowed to continue with my vitamin B12 injections.

But cutting across all of this I also had the above health problems

whilst taking those statin drugs, so I do not know whether or not if

they could be linked, or contributed, to my lack of quality of life

during the weeks before my next vitamin B12 injection was due.

Also since June of this year for the first time I have been

officially prescribed Armour Thyroid on a Trial Basis by and

endocrinologist, as Armour Thyroid is not on the UK's official list

of medications that can be prescribed to patients, and it will take

some months yet before I am taking my optimal dose.

Therefore, I am waiting to see how I cope vitamin B12 wise after my

reaching that optimal dose of Armour Thyroid, cope or how I feel

health wise, as I agree with you regarding possible lab mistakes,

not to mention possible doctor's mistakes.

-------------------------------

Skipper:-

Low B12 is common in hypothyroidism.

Of course, I'm sure you have your B12 levels taken periodically, and

wouldn't get the shots if it wasn't going down. My wife got B12

shots before her thyroid was treated, and they helped quite a lot.

-------------------------------------

Marie:- At the moment I am being classed as needing vitamin B12

injections for life because of this lack of the intrinsic factor, so

therefore my doctor does not arrange for me to have my vitamin B12

levels taken periodically.

-----------------------------------

Marie:-

Also some years ago I was informed by a qualified Herbalist that one

needs to take all the B vitamins together to enable any one B vitamin

to be absorbed by the body, so in that sense I was advised that it

was not so good just to take say one vitamin B, on its own.

----------------------------------

Skipper:-

I've heard that, but I'm not sure that statement includes B12.

For those who want a high potency B supplement, there's one on

drrind.com.

A lot of those who understand adrenal insufficiency push B vitamins

and magnesium, neither of which make me feel better. In fact, I

don't take B vitamins or magnesium because I feel worse on them.

----------------------------------

Marie:-

It was also both interesting and a coincidence that you should

mention this subject of adrenal insufficiency, as I had been taking

Nutri Adrenal Extra until I was informed by my endocrinologist that

they had undertaken tests on similar medicinal products, and found

that there was nothing of medicinal value in them. It goes without

saying that this does not necessarily mean that this applies to all

Adrenal medicinal products, and also I do not know how this could be

proved one way or the other before deciding to buy an adrenal

medicinal product.

I have often wondered if someone has lack of the intrinsic factor in

relation to vitamin B12 deficiency, where vitamin B12 cannot be

absorbed into the body's system by normal dietary intake etc., then

could this not also apply to other vitamins, including other B

vitamins, and certain medications, where I suppose one way around it

might be to take such vitamins etc., sublingually, say as a

precautionary measure.

Reference:-

http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/articles/Colon%

20Health/lea13.htm

[Guest guest]

>From: " Marie " <marie_kuby@...>

>Reply-iodine

> Before I was officially diagnosed I

>had been presribed Lipitor, a statin drug since 1992 to reduce high

>cholesterol, little realizing at that time the significant health

>problems it was causing me. It was approximately a year later,

>after being officially diagnosed with hypothyroidism, in 1997, that

>my vitamin B12 deficiency was officially diagnosed.

Statins are about raising revenue for the medical industry, and have no real

health purpose. (My opinion of course, I have low cholesterol and know it's

not all it's cracked up to be.)

Anyways, statins deplete Coenzyme Q10, very important for your heart. I

think there's been a required label for that in Canada for some time, but

not in the USA. There was also a patent by one drug company to have Q10

combined with a statin, but the drug company never followed through.

Statins do not increase life expectancy (so why take them?)

Also, if cholesterol is too low, one doesn't make the steroid hormones

(pregnenolone, progesterone, cortisol, testosterone, alodosterone, estrogen,

Vitamin D, and bile) in adequate quantities. Imagine that.

Furthermore, high cholesterol is usually caused by low thyroid. Even if

it's not, if you lower your cholesterol enough to negatively affect the

steroid hormones, they are needed in the proper quantity to allow the

thyroid hormone to work. High or low cortisol causes thyroid hormone to be

active because T4 won't turn into T3 without the right amount.

So, statins can cause low cholesterol which causes low adrenals which causes

low thyroid. A great thing to happen.

>My present doctor wanted me to stop taking those vitamin B12

>injections, but it was my nurse at that particular point in time who

>arranged for that separate test for this lack of the intrinsic

>factor, that was in 2003, which came back positive, and because of

>that I was allowed to continue with my vitamin B12 injections.

Doctors tend to think they're " old fashioned. " But they do make a big

difference for some. I wonder if you're getting enough dosage in the shot,

as it seems the liver should be storing that. If one has adequate B12 in

their liver, it actually takes a long time to deplete it.

>

>Marie:-

>It was also both interesting and a coincidence that you should

>mention this subject of adrenal insufficiency, as I had been taking

>Nutri Adrenal Extra until I was informed by my endocrinologist that

>they had undertaken tests on similar medicinal products, and found

>that there was nothing of medicinal value in them.

Not a very large coincidence, as adrenal insufficiency is extremely common

in the hypothyroid. Many patients will find their cortisol going up once

they get on adequate thyroid medication, but others need adrenal support.

Doctors lie all the time. Here's a list of ingredients in the adrenal

extra. Whether the adrenal tissue has any value or not, it does have

vitamins and minerals that are considered good for the adrenals. Here's the

ingredients -

http://tinyurl.com/3offq

Ingredients

Each tablet typically contains:

Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid)

Vitamin B1 (Thiamin HCl)

Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)

Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide)

Vitamin B5 (Calcium Pantothenate)

Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCl)

Lemon Bioflavonoids

Magnesium (Oxide)

L-Methionine

Choline Bitartrate

Adrenal tissue concentrate

Pituitary tissue concentrate

Parotid tissue concentrate

All tissue concentrates are from bovine source from New Zealand (not

extracts)

***********************************

As I said, I can't say whether the adrenal tissue will help or not, but it's

got Vitamin C, B vitamins, and magnesium, all things that people say those

with low adrenals should take. So, it's not worthless. I actually thought

the dosages too low. (Codex affecting the UK yet?)_

Because I know people with adrenal insufficiency typically need

hydrocortisone (which is bio-identical and equivalent to the cortisol your

adrenals produce) I've recommended Isocort, and some people who have tried

it really felt improvement on it. Isocort contains 2.5 mg of hydrocortisone

per pellet (and the common hydrocortisone dosage for one iwth low adrenals

is 20 mg per day) At least one of them is in the UK. Here's one site for

it-

http://www.evitalhealth.com/index.cfm/FuseAction/Shopping.ProductDetails/product\

id/230.html

Most of the body's vitamin C is stored in the adrenals, so that should tell

you that one with low adrenals should get adequate amounts.

>I have often wondered if someone has lack of the intrinsic factor in

>relation to vitamin B12 deficiency, where vitamin B12 cannot be

>absorbed into the body's system by normal dietary intake etc., then

>could this not also apply to other vitamins, including other B

>vitamins, and certain medications, where I suppose one way around it

>might be to take such vitamins etc., sublingually, say as a

>precautionary measure.

I'm not sure about intrinsic factor. However, hypothyroidism in general

causes problems in absorbing adequate minerals and vitamins. Even with

intrinsic factor, many hypos are low in B12.

The problem with sublingually taken thyroid medication is some people say

this avoids the liver. Well, the liver is where most of the inactive T4 is

turned into T3. I'm not sure if the supporters of taking thyroid medication

sublingually have an answer for that argument.

Skipper

_________________________________________________________________

Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!

http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

[Guest guest]

I have been buying it at www.illnessisoptional.com when I am not a CHM for an appt.

B.

Re: Iodoral

Does anyone here get their Iodoral from online? I've been buying it at a local pharmacy but pay $27.20 for 90 12.5mg tabs.

Anyone get a better price from on line?

Thanks!

Michigan

Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

[Guest guest]

Around $100. If you go through Flechas lab you will get a consultation (free) from Dr. Flechas. But if you go through VRP.com then you will not. I would do Flechas. http://www.helpmythyroid.com/iodine.htm

Re: Iodoral

What is the approximate cost of the iodine test kit? Thanks,Dianne>> > in the best of all possible worlds, if you take 50mg Iodoral for 3 months then your tissues should be saturated and you should be good to go. It didn't work like that for me, I have been taking it for 9 months now. You could do an iodine loading test from http://www.helpmythyroid.com > Gracia> > Do I need to still be taking the 50mg of Iodoral? I am taking > vitamins which have it plus the Redmonds salt has it in it doesn't it? > And I believe that the Emergen - C mix that I take also has it. So do > you think this is too much?> > Vicky> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006>

[Guest guest]

Vicky, compared to the 50 mg of Iodoral, regular vitamins, salt, and other common sources have almost no iodine. The common sources have iodine in mcg (micrograms), which is tiny compared to the 50 mg of Iodoral. The only food source that can have lots of iodine is kelp.

Zoe

>>>Do I need to still be taking the 50mg of Iodoral? I am taking vitamins which have it plus the Redmonds salt has it in it doesn't it? And I believe that the Emergen - C mix that I take also has it. So do you think this is too much?Vicky

[Guest guest]

I'm disappointed to see that your results have to be sent to your doc

and not to you. Is that also true with VRP?? Janie

>

> Around $100. If you go through Flechas lab you will get a

consultation (free) from Dr. Flechas. But if you go through VRP.com

then you will not. I would do Flechas.

http://www.helpmythyroid.com/iodine.htm

>

[Guest guest]

That's not true. Call Dr. Flechas office and tell them you have no Dr. to order them and they will work with you to get it to you directly.

Re: Iodoral

I'm disappointed to see that your results have to be sent to your docand not to you. Is that also true with VRP?? Janie>> Around $100. If you go through Flechas lab you will get aconsultation (free) from Dr. Flechas. But if you go through VRP.comthen you will not. I would do Flechas. http://www.helpmythyroid.com/iodine.htm>

[Guest guest]

My results have always been sent to me. Call the lab and ask them. Zoe

Re: Iodoral

I'm disappointed to see that your results have to be sent to your docand not to you. Is that also true with VRP?? Janie>> Around $100. If you go through Flechas lab you will get aconsultation (free) from Dr. Flechas. But if you go through VRP.comthen you will not. I would do Flechas. http://www.helpmythyroid.com/iodine.htm>Iodine

[Guest guest]

I just looked it up at this site

http://www.bayho.com/p/398004.html

and it said " minimize exposure to the sun "

Is this usual for iodine supplementation? I believe in much exposure to

the sun. I don't believe skin cancer is caused by the sun but believe

we need large amounts of it.

On Sep 14, 2007, at 4:39 PM, groupiestuff wrote:

> Hollywood Health's Iodo Caps are the same thing and considerably

> cheaper. You can google it.

Parashis

artpages@...

zine:

artpagesonline.com

portfolio:

http://www.artpagesonline.com/EPportfolio/000portfolio.html

[Guest guest]

--- Parashis <artpages@...> wrote:

> I just looked it up at this site

>

> http://www.bayho.com/p/398004.html

>

> and it said " minimize exposure to the sun "

>

> Is this usual for iodine supplementation? I believe

> in much exposure to

> the sun. I don't believe skin cancer is caused by

> the sun but believe

> we need large amounts of it.

I agree, I also think we need large amounts of sun.

Listen to this great webinar I attended a few weeks

ago talking about the vitamin D and sun:

http://www.innovativehealing.com/replay/

You can actually hear me asking about tanning salons

in the last audio file where Dr. Cannell is answering

questions.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

147 pounds lost! 95% of health issues reversed!

Find out about the diet that helped me:

Group:

curingcandida/

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

Studying nutrition for 12 years. Currently working

towards certification.

-------------

Small deeds done are better than great deeds planned. Let your baby steps take

you there...

New group! Curing Candida:

curingcandida/

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

--- Lynn McGaha <lmcgaha@...> wrote:

> The iodoral tablet is scored. Easy to split with a

> pill splitter, probably

> even with a sharp knife. I started out taking half

> tablets.

> Lynn

=====================

I plan on starting out with half tablets too. What

dose are you on now?

2007 walking miles

November - 4 miles

Year - 610 mile

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi, I'm new here. Thanks for having this group. I take Iodoral, started right out at 50mg. I'm a thycan with 42 years survival and was on T4 only, for all of that time until this June.

The iodoral pills can be easily broken with my hands, and I have weak muscles. They are large enough to grab easily.

Hope this helps,

[Guest guest]

if you need thyroid meds then I don't think you are "slightly deficient" in iodine.

IMHO

Gracia

--- Lynn McGaha <lmcgahaatcjet (DOT) net> wrote:> > I started on half tablets in July 2006. Every 5> days I increased by a half> tablet until I got to 2 tablets twice a day. I took> 4 tablets daily for> about 3 months. I then had a chiropractor muscle> test me for all the> supplements I was taking. He said not to take any> Iodoral and not to take a> lot of the supplements I was taking. I didn't take> any Iodoral for a few> months, and then I started back on 1 tablet/day,> which is what I am still> taking. I have never had the iodine loading test> done.> > Lynn>=========================Thanks for the info Lynn. I'm probably going to startwith 1/2 a tablet and move up to a whole tablet andjust stay there. I already feel good on Armour andthe small amount of iodine I'm getting from the kelpand thyroid essentials, so I figure 1 tab should befine. I have not had a loading test either, but 3patch tests show I have a deficiency. It improvedsomewhat from the iodine in he kelp and thyroidessentials, but I'm still showing a slight deficiency.2007 walking milesNovember - 12 milesYear - 618 mile__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

www.illnessisoptional.com

Iodoral

> Please tell me the site again that sells 50 mg Iodoral tabs?

> B

> God Bless America!

> One nation under God

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, thanks . I will try

decreasing my progesterone at night and if that doesn’t help I’ll

then try using more.

I’m looking ahead here and was

wondering if when my body gets saturated with iodine will I be able to maintain

iodine by eating foods high in that, and stop taking Iodoral? In one of

your files I read that a person should be able to go to a low dose of Iodoral

after the 3-6 months saturation. It would be nice though if I wouldn’t

have to depend on Iodoral and just eat more seafood, kombu, etc.

Joni

[Guest guest]

I don't think that we will ever be able to depend on foods. It just isn't in our soil to get enough for our body needs plus combating all the halogens. I plan on taking it for life.

Steph

Iodoral

Ok, thanks . I will try decreasing my progesterone at night and if that doesn’t help I’ll then try using more.

I’m looking ahead here and was wondering if when my body gets saturated with iodine will I be able to maintain iodine by eating foods high in that, and stop taking Iodoral? In one of your files I read that a person should be able to go to a low dose of Iodoral after the 3-6 months saturation. It would be nice though if I wouldn’t have to depend on Iodoral and just eat more seafood, kombu, etc.

Joni