Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

[Guest guest]

You're on the right track. Keep on consuming only

healthy, easily digestible food (and not too much of

it either), then in the next few weeks slowly progress

to other healthy food, as you start feeling better. In

two months chances are very good that you'll be

feeling 100% again.

But don't go back to an unhealthy eating lifestyle!

Everything in moderation. Eat only small portions of

lean beef and that you should do at most just twice a

month. Eat primarily fruits and vegetables and have

fish or chicken as a treat, but don't make them with

unhealthy ingredients!. Go to sleep every night on an

empty stomach. Limit alcohol when you get better.

Limit caffeine. After these eight weeks, your body

will tell you what it wants and what it doesn't want.

Believe me, you'll learn to love certain foods you

never knew you'd like and you'll be all that much

healthier for it. It's been over seven weeks for me

and I have had no gallbladder problems whatsoever.

Further, I no longer have acid reflux either and that

used to wake me up in the middle of the night

practically every night.

--- franniboy@... wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> Not doing too bad today although I did wake up about

> 4 AM since I'm drinking

> alt of liquids and, thus, the wee wee routine. No

> major GB tremmors, though.

> Seems when I wake up the GB wants to wake up as

> well. Got a little active this

> morning, but not much pain or discomfort, so the

> juice/liquid fast is working.

> The beet/carrot juice didn't seem to upset me either

> even though I drank it

> somewhere afer hours between 8 and 8:30 PM last

> night.

>

> I have to tell you that this whole matter is having

> a profound affect on me;

> spiritually and health-wise. I hope I'm OK beyond

> the gall bladder problem.

> Stomach area is a little tender on right side. I did

> have surgery for

> diverticulitis a few years ago. There's a scar up

> the middle of me (and scar tissue

> below) and it could be bowel gas in that area making

> me tender. My neighbor is a

> nurse and has had major surgeries including her GB

> removed and said the

> tenderness is business as usual for a problematic

> GB. Fortunately, the tenderness is

> not in the liver area.

>

> All for now and thanks to everyone for their

> support. It has helped alot and

> strengthened my determination and resolve to get a

> handle on this GB problem.

>

> Regards,

>

> Fran

>

>

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Not that anyone asked, but I totally agree with this advice. I've been eating

smaller portion but more frequently, have lost 55 pounds and had no further GB

attacks since my first and only on March 12, 2006. I try not to eat anything

after 6 p.m. Our main meal is at noon. If I feel hungry close to bedtime, I

might have a few swallows of chocolate milk. I find that very filling and

satisfying.

Amber

You're on the right track. Keep on consuming only

healthy, easily digestible food (and not too much of

it either), then in the next few weeks slowly progress

to other healthy food, as you start feeling better. In

two months chances are very good that you'll be

feeling 100% again.

But don't go back to an unhealthy eating lifestyle!

Everything in moderation. Eat only small portions of

lean beef and that you should do at most just twice a

month. Eat primarily fruits and vegetables and have

fish or chicken as a treat, but don't make them with

unhealthy ingredients!. Go to sleep every night on an

empty stomach. Limit alcohol when you get better.

Limit caffeine. After these eight weeks, your body

will tell you what it wants and what it doesn't want.

Believe me, you'll learn to love certain foods you

never knew you'd like and you'll be all that much

healthier for it. It's been over seven weeks for me

and I have had no gallbladder problems whatsoever.

Further, I no longer have acid reflux either and that

used to wake me up in the middle of the night

practically every night.

.

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Yes, it's amazing. Since November of 2006, when I

started to take care of myself more, I've lost 35

pounds. In the last seven weeks when I really went on

a total health kick, I've lost 15 pounds. I now look

forward to my new lifestyle diet and dont miss the

things that I thought I used to love at all. And I

feel absolutely great

--- Amber <amber@...> wrote:

> Not that anyone asked, but I totally agree with this

> advice. I've been eating smaller portion but more

> frequently, have lost 55 pounds and had no further

> GB attacks since my first and only on March 12,

> 2006. I try not to eat anything after 6 p.m. Our

> main meal is at noon. If I feel hungry close to

> bedtime, I might have a few swallows of chocolate

> milk. I find that very filling and satisfying.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

>

>

> You're on the right track. Keep on consuming only

> healthy, easily digestible food (and not too much

> of

> it either), then in the next few weeks slowly

> progress

> to other healthy food, as you start feeling

> better. In

> two months chances are very good that you'll be

> feeling 100% again.

>

> But don't go back to an unhealthy eating

> lifestyle!

> Everything in moderation. Eat only small portions

> of

> lean beef and that you should do at most just

> twice a

> month. Eat primarily fruits and vegetables and

> have

> fish or chicken as a treat, but don't make them

> with

> unhealthy ingredients!. Go to sleep every night on

> an

> empty stomach. Limit alcohol when you get better.

> Limit caffeine. After these eight weeks, your body

> will tell you what it wants and what it doesn't

> want.

>

> Believe me, you'll learn to love certain foods you

> never knew you'd like and you'll be all that much

> healthier for it. It's been over seven weeks for

> me

> and I have had no gallbladder problems whatsoever.

> Further, I no longer have acid reflux either and

> that

> used to wake me up in the middle of the night

> practically every night.

>

>

> .

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

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Concerned about this tummy tenderness I'm having... not so much upper

quadrant. Alot of gas... understandable.

Gax-X pills can help that. They are OTC.

Concerning A-F Beta... tough to get without a referral/consult... called the

company and only 2 distributors in my metro area. It'll cost me $125 to get a

$12 bottle.

Do you live in America? If so, call the number I gave and order direct!

Amber

.

[Guest guest]

Fran,

I didn't need to lose any weight either. I'm now 100 lbs and 5'6 " . (I lost

20 lbs). I look pretty sick, but feel pretty healthy. Go figure.

Have a blessed day!

Evie Maddox

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of franniboy@...

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:30 PM

gallstones

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

P.S.

Unlike Bob and Amber stated... I don't need to lose any weight. Hope this

dieting doesn't make me look emaciated and sickly-looking.

Fran

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone:

Real concerned today... Despite measures to calm down my GB, it seems to be

getting worse. Just movement alone is causing it to act up. I had a couple of

short but bad attacks last night between 11:00 PM and 2 AM. Woke up this

morning marginally uneasy. Was about to check myself into the hospital last

night.

If anyone read my reports of yesterday, I didn't have dinner after my nap.

However, I did have a half cup of fresh squeezed grapefruit juice about 9:00 PM

thinking it wouldn't hurt. Perhaps that was the culprit for my discomfort.

No one has addressed the tenderness I'm having to the right of my belly

button... almost feel like appendix, except I don't have one anymore.

I seriously wondering now if I can turn this thing around. As I said, last

night, just walking up and down stairs brought on an attack. Could someone

describe an attack for me? Mine are a tightness right in the center of me and

when

they occur I also feel a tightness in my left arm bicep muscle... I know what

you're thinking ... left arm... heart. But it's not a numbess in the arm...

feels more like a nerve and comes and goes with the attacks. Attacks are short

and the only means I have to deal with them are drinking Perrier or water and

putting my head and body forward while sitting until they pass.

All for now.

Regards,

Fran

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Thanks for that and Evie. Yes, I do have adhesions from surgery.

Tenderness seems like the stomach or bowel are irritated... or gassy. I wonder

because the tenderness is not so much in the upper quadrant. Someone told me

that their gall bladder symptoms started to move downward after a while. I'm

definitely bloated, probably from drinking so many liquids. One thing's for

sure, the gall bladder is a definite.

All for now.

Fran

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[Guest guest]

I'm not familiar with the type of tenderness in that

location due to gallbladder symptoms. Don't rule it

out the heart either just because you dont feel

numbness. Heart trouble comes in many forms.

If I were you and had these persistent symptoms, I'd

go seek medical care immediately.

Good luck.

--- franniboy@... wrote:

> Hi everyone:

>

> Real concerned today... Despite measures to calm

> down my GB, it seems to be

> getting worse. Just movement alone is causing it to

> act up. I had a couple of

> short but bad attacks last night between 11:00 PM

> and 2 AM. Woke up this

> morning marginally uneasy. Was about to check myself

> into the hospital last night.

>

> If anyone read my reports of yesterday, I didn't

> have dinner after my nap.

> However, I did have a half cup of fresh squeezed

> grapefruit juice about 9:00 PM

> thinking it wouldn't hurt. Perhaps that was the

> culprit for my discomfort.

>

> No one has addressed the tenderness I'm having to

> the right of my belly

> button... almost feel like appendix, except I don't

> have one anymore.

>

> I seriously wondering now if I can turn this thing

> around. As I said, last

> night, just walking up and down stairs brought on an

> attack. Could someone

> describe an attack for me? Mine are a tightness

> right in the center of me and when

> they occur I also feel a tightness in my left arm

> bicep muscle... I know what

> you're thinking ... left arm... heart. But it's not

> a numbess in the arm...

> feels more like a nerve and comes and goes with the

> attacks. Attacks are short

> and the only means I have to deal with them are

> drinking Perrier or water and

> putting my head and body forward while sitting until

> they pass.

>

> All for now.

>

> Regards,

>

> Fran

>

>

> **************************************

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> http://www.aol.com

>

>

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Good morning, Fran! Yes, the grapefruit juice will do that. I'm so sorry you

are dealing with this! I suggest taking a look at

http://www.gallbladderattack.com for both descriptions of attacks, as well

as what to do for pain and diet suggestions. I have tried both the beet

recipe there as well as the flax suggestion. I am not a fan of mineral

water, and what I've been drinking since my attacks started is pure home

distilled water with a bit of Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar (with the Mother).

Sometimes I add honey. I drink an 8 oz glass about 3 times per day.

Definitely follow the food suggestions on the site above, and you will feel

better before you know it. As far as the pain you are feeling, it could be

your gall bladder, and it certainly could be something else. Did you already

say you had surgery for diverticulitis? I thought that was you.do you have

any adhesions from the surgery?

I hope today is better. I think the site above will give you some good info.

Have a blessed day!

Evie Maddox

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of franniboy@...

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:00 AM

gallstones

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

Hi everyone:

Real concerned today... Despite measures to calm down my GB, it seems to be

getting worse. Just movement alone is causing it to act up. I had a couple

of

short but bad attacks last night between 11:00 PM and 2 AM. Woke up this

morning marginally uneasy. Was about to check myself into the hospital last

night.

If anyone read my reports of yesterday, I didn't have dinner after my nap.

However, I did have a half cup of fresh squeezed grapefruit juice about 9:00

PM

thinking it wouldn't hurt. Perhaps that was the culprit for my discomfort.

No one has addressed the tenderness I'm having to the right of my belly

button... almost feel like appendix, except I don't have one anymore.

I seriously wondering now if I can turn this thing around. As I said, last

night, just walking up and down stairs brought on an attack. Could someone

describe an attack for me? Mine are a tightness right in the center of me

and when

they occur I also feel a tightness in my left arm bicep muscle... I know

what

you're thinking ... left arm... heart. But it's not a numbess in the arm...

feels more like a nerve and comes and goes with the attacks. Attacks are

short

and the only means I have to deal with them are drinking Perrier or water

and

putting my head and body forward while sitting until they pass.

All for now.

Regards,

Fran

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[Guest guest]

I totally agree. Get this checked out. It may not be GB.

Amber

I'm not familiar with the type of tenderness in that

location due to gallbladder symptoms. Don't rule it

out the heart either just because you dont feel

numbness. Heart trouble comes in many forms.

If I were you and had these persistent symptoms, I'd

go seek medical care immediately.

.

[Guest guest]

Fat free is a sure way to metabolic imbalance. If you want to detox your liver

or eliminate crepitous from your gallbladder, you are going to need dietary

lipids. Shut off needed fats, kill your liver. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

Eating small amount frequently of FAT FREE food like

fruits are definitely a good idea. But do NOT eat

after 8PM if you are still undergoing pain. You can

eat FAT FREE food if you can't help but eat late for

whatever reason, but make sure it's a small portion,

just enough to kill the hunger like a few wheat

crackers or a banana. Try to have as little animal

protein as possible. After two months, your liver will

bounce back and work much better.

--- Amber <amber@...<mailto:amber@...>> wrote:

> I doubt that eating late at night is really good for

> anyone. That probably set you off. I've found that

> eating smaller amounts but frequently has worked for

> me. I know I couldn't do all that fasting.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

> The veggie dinner my wife made sat very well with

> me, except I had another

> helping about 9:30 or 10:00 PM with a piece of

> wheat bread. I think the second

> helping eaten later at night might have caused the

> problem

>

> Fran

>

>

> .

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Bananas are actually very hard to digest. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:37 PM

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

The reason you had that attack is because you had

pasta. You can't overfill yourself when you're in the

middle of attacks. Just eat the minimum amount of food

you can and it will go away., Stay close to non acidic

fruits, soft vegetables and water or broth. Eat only

easily digestible food such as bananas and soup broth.

Give your suffering digestive system a break for a

week and it will get better, but stay on the diet for

at least eight weeks so your liver can heal itself.

You are still suffering because during your attacks

you have had coffee and liquor and you have eaten

late. Every time you give your liver a break, you ruin

it by poisoning it with things that you know are bad

for you. The only way you're going to stop is if you

cant stand the pain any longer. Then you'll see how

easy it is to live without this stuff as long as your

pain free. Is the pain making you throw up? If its

not, consider yourself lucky. But lacl of sleep is

very bad for you too.

--- franniboy@...<mailto:franniboy@...> wrote:

> Situation and symtoms worse today. It's 8:40 PM EST

> and just had another

> attack post dinner.... veggies in pasta. Just made

> myself a beets and carrot juice

> drink since I had the hardest time finding A-F Beta

> vitammins for immmediate

> use today. No local practioners I contacted today

> carry it. I'll pursue

> tomorrow and also contact the mfgr. GB settling down

> now. I think I will go on a

> near strict fast the rest of this week, drink water,

> apple and beet juices and

> eating raw fruits and veggies as I get hungry in

> limited amounts.

>

> All for now... yesterday I felt great until my

> middle of the night attacks.

> Let's see if this beet juice helps tonite.

>

> Regards,

>

> Fran

>

>

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I'm surprised you say that since all my life, if I've

ever had digestive problems, doctors have always told

me to have soft foods such as saltine crackers and

bananas so that my stomach doesn't have to overwork.

I'd like to know where you get the information that

bananas are difficult to digest.

--- Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

> Bananas are actually very hard to digest. -D

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

> Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

> To:

>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

>

> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:37 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> worsening/AF Betafood

>

>

>

> The reason you had that attack is because you had

> pasta. You can't overfill yourself when you're in

> the

> middle of attacks. Just eat the minimum amount of

> food

> you can and it will go away., Stay close to non

> acidic

> fruits, soft vegetables and water or broth. Eat

> only

> easily digestible food such as bananas and soup

> broth.

> Give your suffering digestive system a break for a

> week and it will get better, but stay on the diet

> for

> at least eight weeks so your liver can heal

> itself.

>

> You are still suffering because during your

> attacks

> you have had coffee and liquor and you have eaten

> late. Every time you give your liver a break, you

> ruin

> it by poisoning it with things that you know are

> bad

> for you. The only way you're going to stop is if

> you

> cant stand the pain any longer. Then you'll see

> how

> easy it is to live without this stuff as long as

> your

> pain free. Is the pain making you throw up? If its

> not, consider yourself lucky. But lacl of sleep is

> very bad for you too.

>

> --- franniboy@...<mailto:franniboy@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Situation and symtoms worse today. It's 8:40 PM

> EST

> > and just had another

> > attack post dinner.... veggies in pasta. Just

> made

> > myself a beets and carrot juice

> > drink since I had the hardest time finding A-F

> Beta

> > vitammins for immmediate

> > use today. No local practioners I contacted

> today

> > carry it. I'll pursue

> > tomorrow and also contact the mfgr. GB settling

> down

> > now. I think I will go on a

> > near strict fast the rest of this week, drink

> water,

> > apple and beet juices and

> > eating raw fruits and veggies as I get hungry in

> > limited amounts.

> >

> > All for now... yesterday I felt great until my

> > middle of the night attacks.

> > Let's see if this beet juice helps tonite.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Fran

> >

> >

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> >

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I'm talking about not eating saturated and trans fats.

Unsaturated and polyunsaturated fats found in fish,

nuts and avocados are very good for you. Saturated

fats like the stuff you find in fast foods will surely

kill you slowly.

--- Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

> Fat free is a sure way to metabolic imbalance. If

> you want to detox your liver or eliminate crepitous

> from your gallbladder, you are going to need dietary

> lipids. Shut off needed fats, kill your liver. -D

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

> Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

> To:

>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

>

> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:24 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> worsening/AF Betafood

>

>

>

> Eating small amount frequently of FAT FREE food

> like

> fruits are definitely a good idea. But do NOT eat

> after 8PM if you are still undergoing pain. You

> can

> eat FAT FREE food if you can't help but eat late

> for

> whatever reason, but make sure it's a small

> portion,

> just enough to kill the hunger like a few wheat

> crackers or a banana. Try to have as little animal

> protein as possible. After two months, your liver

> will

> bounce back and work much better.

>

> --- Amber

> <amber@...<mailto:amber@...>>

> wrote:

>

> > I doubt that eating late at night is really good

> for

> > anyone. That probably set you off. I've found

> that

> > eating smaller amounts but frequently has worked

> for

> > me. I know I couldn't do all that fasting.

> >

> > Amber

> >

> >

> >

> > The veggie dinner my wife made sat very well

> with

> > me, except I had another

> > helping about 9:30 or 10:00 PM with a piece of

> > wheat bread. I think the second

> > helping eaten later at night might have caused

> the

> > problem

> >

> > Fran

> >

> >

> > .

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

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I was told by my herbalist, who is a doctor of Chinese medicine, that bananas

are difficult to digest. He also said it's very hard to get potassium from a

banana, even though they are supposed to be loaded with it.

To get the most from our foods, ideally we should eat foods that are in season,

and that would grow in the area in which we live. So if we live in the tropics,

we would do well to eat cooling foods like mangos, bananas, etc.

Bananas are full of fiber and are binding, which is why doctors often recommend

them when we have diarrhea.

Margh

----- Original Message -----

From: Seoane

gallstones

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:16 PM

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

I'm surprised you say that since all my life, if I've

ever had digestive problems, doctors have always told

me to have soft foods such as saltine crackers and

bananas so that my stomach doesn't have to overwork.

I'd like to know where you get the information that

bananas are difficult to digest.

--- Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

> Bananas are actually very hard to digest. -D

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

> Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

> To:

>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

>

> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:37 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> worsening/AF Betafood

>

>

>

> The reason you had that attack is because you had

> pasta. You can't overfill yourself when you're in

> the

> middle of attacks. Just eat the minimum amount of

> food

> you can and it will go away., Stay close to non

> acidic

> fruits, soft vegetables and water or broth. Eat

> only

> easily digestible food such as bananas and soup

> broth.

> Give your suffering digestive system a break for a

> week and it will get better, but stay on the diet

> for

> at least eight weeks so your liver can heal

> itself.

>

> You are still suffering because during your

> attacks

> you have had coffee and liquor and you have eaten

> late. Every time you give your liver a break, you

> ruin

> it by poisoning it with things that you know are

> bad

> for you. The only way you're going to stop is if

> you

> cant stand the pain any longer. Then you'll see

> how

> easy it is to live without this stuff as long as

> your

> pain free. Is the pain making you throw up? If its

> not, consider yourself lucky. But lacl of sleep is

> very bad for you too.

>

> --- franniboy@...<mailto:franniboy@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Situation and symtoms worse today. It's 8:40 PM

> EST

> > and just had another

> > attack post dinner.... veggies in pasta. Just

> made

> > myself a beets and carrot juice

> > drink since I had the hardest time finding A-F

> Beta

> > vitammins for immmediate

> > use today. No local practioners I contacted

> today

> > carry it. I'll pursue

> > tomorrow and also contact the mfgr. GB settling

> down

> > now. I think I will go on a

> > near strict fast the rest of this week, drink

> water,

> > apple and beet juices and

> > eating raw fruits and veggies as I get hungry in

> > limited amounts.

> >

> > All for now... yesterday I felt great until my

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:

Bananas are not hard to digest, but its chemical content creates acidity on

the stomach and gall bladder which ctriggers gallstone attack. I've been

attacked two times by gallstone after eating bananas.

Jess

Seoane <robert_seoane@...> wrote:

I'm surprised you say that since all my life, if I've

ever had digestive problems, doctors have always told

me to have soft foods such as saltine crackers and

bananas so that my stomach doesn't have to overwork.

I'd like to know where you get the information that

bananas are difficult to digest.

--- Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote:

> Bananas are actually very hard to digest. -D

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

> Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

> To:

>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

>

> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:37 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> worsening/AF Betafood

>

>

>

> The reason you had that attack is because you had

> pasta. You can't overfill yourself when you're in

> the

> middle of attacks. Just eat the minimum amount of

> food

> you can and it will go away., Stay close to non

> acidic

> fruits, soft vegetables and water or broth. Eat

> only

> easily digestible food such as bananas and soup

> broth.

> Give your suffering digestive system a break for a

> week and it will get better, but stay on the diet

> for

> at least eight weeks so your liver can heal

> itself.

>

> You are still suffering because during your

> attacks

> you have had coffee and liquor and you have eaten

> late. Every time you give your liver a break, you

> ruin

> it by poisoning it with things that you know are

> bad

> for you. The only way you're going to stop is if

> you

> cant stand the pain any longer. Then you'll see

> how

> easy it is to live without this stuff as long as

> your

> pain free. Is the pain making you throw up? If its

> not, consider yourself lucky. But lacl of sleep is

> very bad for you too.

>

> --- franniboy@...<mailto:franniboy@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Situation and symtoms worse today. It's 8:40 PM

> EST

> > and just had another

> > attack post dinner.... veggies in pasta. Just

> made

> > myself a beets and carrot juice

> > drink since I had the hardest time finding A-F

> Beta

> > vitammins for immmediate

> > use today. No local practioners I contacted

> today

> > carry it. I'll pursue

> > tomorrow and also contact the mfgr. GB settling

> down

> > now. I think I will go on a

> > near strict fast the rest of this week, drink

> water,

> > apple and beet juices and

> > eating raw fruits and veggies as I get hungry in

> > limited amounts.

> >

> > All for now... yesterday I felt great until my

> > middle of the night attacks.

> > Let's see if this beet juice helps tonite.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Fran

> >

> >

> > **************************************

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Hydrogenated fats that contain trans-fats are the big culprit. Some saturated

fats are excellent like coconut oil. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:18 PM

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

I'm talking about not eating saturated and trans fats.

Unsaturated and polyunsaturated fats found in fish,

nuts and avocados are very good for you. Saturated

fats like the stuff you find in fast foods will surely

kill you slowly.

--- Dave Shelden

<wholehealthawareness@...<mailto:wholehealthawareness@...>> wrote:

> Fat free is a sure way to metabolic imbalance. If

> you want to detox your liver or eliminate crepitous

> from your gallbladder, you are going to need dietary

> lipids. Shut off needed fats, kill your liver. -D

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

> Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...<mailto:robert_seoane@...>>

> To:

>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones ><mailto:gallstones@\

<mailto:gallstones >>

>

> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:24 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> worsening/AF Betafood

>

>

>

> Eating small amount frequently of FAT FREE food

> like

> fruits are definitely a good idea. But do NOT eat

> after 8PM if you are still undergoing pain. You

> can

> eat FAT FREE food if you can't help but eat late

> for

> whatever reason, but make sure it's a small

> portion,

> just enough to kill the hunger like a few wheat

> crackers or a banana. Try to have as little animal

> protein as possible. After two months, your liver

> will

> bounce back and work much better.

>

> --- Amber

>

<amber@...<mailto:amber@...><mailto:amber@...<mailto:\

amber@...>>>

> wrote:

>

> > I doubt that eating late at night is really good

> for

> > anyone. That probably set you off. I've found

> that

> > eating smaller amounts but frequently has worked

> for

> > me. I know I couldn't do all that fasting.

> >

> > Amber

> >

> >

> >

> > The veggie dinner my wife made sat very well

> with

> > me, except I had another

> > helping about 9:30 or 10:00 PM with a piece of

> > wheat bread. I think the second

> > helping eaten later at night might have caused

> the

> > problem

> >

> > Fran

> >

> >

> > .

> >

> >

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The carbs in Bananas are hard to break down. Good example of the nutritional

knowledge base of most MDs (as of '93, only 3 out of 126 medical schools in the

country had a required nutrition course to graduate). Your stomach performs 4

main functions in the digestive process. First and foremost mechanical. This

is the reason the doctor recommended " soft " foods. HCL for an acidic environ to

break down proteins into polypeptide chains. The secretion of pepsin and a

couple of other enzymes, again for breaking down proteins. And immediate

absorption of water (and alcohol). Outside of the mechanical action, virtually

no digestion of carbs takes place until the duodenum. In case of bananas the

riper the easier because the enzymes present convert the starches into simpler

sugars. Bananas are an excellent nutritional source, just not easy to digest

(especially at the level of ripeness that we eat them). -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:16 PM

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

I'm surprised you say that since all my life, if I've

ever had digestive problems, doctors have always told

me to have soft foods such as saltine crackers and

bananas so that my stomach doesn't have to overwork.

I'd like to know where you get the information that

bananas are difficult to digest.

--- Dave Shelden

<wholehealthawareness@...<mailto:wholehealthawareness@...>> wrote:

> Bananas are actually very hard to digest. -D

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

> Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...<mailto:robert_seoane@...>>

> To:

>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones ><mailto:gallstones@\

<mailto:gallstones >>

>

> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:37 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> worsening/AF Betafood

>

>

>

> The reason you had that attack is because you had

> pasta. You can't overfill yourself when you're in

> the

> middle of attacks. Just eat the minimum amount of

> food

> you can and it will go away., Stay close to non

> acidic

> fruits, soft vegetables and water or broth. Eat

> only

> easily digestible food such as bananas and soup

> broth.

> Give your suffering digestive system a break for a

> week and it will get better, but stay on the diet

> for

> at least eight weeks so your liver can heal

> itself.

>

> You are still suffering because during your

> attacks

> you have had coffee and liquor and you have eaten

> late. Every time you give your liver a break, you

> ruin

> it by poisoning it with things that you know are

> bad

> for you. The only way you're going to stop is if

> you

> cant stand the pain any longer. Then you'll see

> how

> easy it is to live without this stuff as long as

> your

> pain free. Is the pain making you throw up? If its

> not, consider yourself lucky. But lacl of sleep is

> very bad for you too.

>

> ---

franniboy@...<mailto:franniboy@...><mailto:franniboy@...<mailto:fran\

niboy@...>>

> wrote:

>

> > Situation and symtoms worse today. It's 8:40 PM

> EST

> > and just had another

> > attack post dinner.... veggies in pasta. Just

> made

> > myself a beets and carrot juice

> > drink since I had the hardest time finding A-F

> Beta

> > vitammins for immmediate

> > use today. No local practioners I contacted

> today

> > carry it. I'll pursue

> > tomorrow and also contact the mfgr. GB settling

> down

> > now. I think I will go on a

> > near strict fast the rest of this week, drink

> water,

> > apple and beet juices and

> > eating raw fruits and veggies as I get hungry in

> > limited amounts.

> >

> > All for now... yesterday I felt great until my

> > middle of the night attacks.

> > Let's see if this beet juice helps tonite.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Fran

> >

> >

> > **************************************

> > See what's new at

> >

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I don't know if I buy that. If they are so hard to digest, why are they one

of baby's first foods?

Have a blessed day!

Evie Maddox

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of Dave Shelden

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:15 AM

gallstones

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

The carbs in Bananas are hard to break down. Bananas are an excellent

nutritional source, just not easy to digest (especially at the level of

ripeness that we eat them). -D

[Guest guest]

Good question. Maybe because they are soft and we just stick into our

children's mouths what is easiest. A whole new discussion about the digestive

system of an infant, but enough to say that they have also not had a lot of time

to screw it up like us " adults " . For those who wish to explore further, there

is plenty of info and science on this subject. Some, in fact most, of this

family cannot be eaten raw and must be cooked in order to ingest, let alone

digest (plantains a good example). -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Evie Maddox<mailto:evie@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:49 PM

Subject: RE: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

I don't know if I buy that. If they are so hard to digest, why are they one

of baby's first foods?

Have a blessed day!

Evie Maddox

From: gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

[mailto:gallstones <mailto:gallstones >] On

Behalf Of Dave Shelden

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:15 AM

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF Betafood

The carbs in Bananas are hard to break down. Bananas are an excellent

nutritional source, just not easy to digest (especially at the level of

ripeness that we eat them). -D

[Guest guest]

I agree with Evie. Bananas are very soft so the acids

in our stomach don't have to work very much to break

them down, as they're already broken down by the time

they reach our stomachs, unlike beef for example which

makes our stomachs work harder to break down.

Where do you get this information about bananas? I

already mentioned that my doctor has always suggested

eating a banana when your stomach is sensitive after

some bout with a virus or something. But you're just

saying this information without any backup. Please

tell me where you get this information.

Also, if you click on this link below and read the

article, It'll back up just what I said.

http://www.oldandsold.com/articles30/health-and-diet-54.shtml

Please show your backup info before you go around

stating things as if they were fact.

--- Evie Maddox <evie@...> wrote:

> I don't know if I buy that. If they are so hard to

> digest, why are they one

> of baby's first foods?

>

>

>

> Have a blessed day!

>

> Evie Maddox

>

>

>

> From: gallstones

> [mailto:gallstones ] On

> Behalf Of Dave Shelden

> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:15 AM

> gallstones

> Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> worsening/AF Betafood

>

>

>

> The carbs in Bananas are hard to break down. Bananas

> are an excellent

> nutritional source, just not easy to digest

> (especially at the level of

> ripeness that we eat them). -D

>

>

>

>

>

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Here's another link discussing the benefits of bananas

as well as a quote from the article below discussing

its digestibility. I suggest anyone interested in

finding out the truth about bananas should google the

word banana and digestibility and get their own

researchg and information.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Musa-Acuminata-Colla---The-Banana & id=684808

QUOTE TAKEN FROM ABOVE LINK:

" Bananas are used against intestinal disorders and

because of its soft texture and smoothness. It is one

of the most important fruit that can be eaten in

over-chronic ulcer cases as it is an antacid which

neutralizes over-acidity and reduces irritation of the

stomach. They are also used in patients suffering from

heart-burns. "

--- Evie Maddox <evie@...> wrote:

> I don't know if I buy that. If they are so hard to

> digest, why are they one

> of baby's first foods?

>

>

>

> Have a blessed day!

>

> Evie Maddox

>

>

>

> From: gallstones

> [mailto:gallstones ] On

> Behalf Of Dave Shelden

> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:15 AM

> gallstones

> Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> worsening/AF Betafood

>

>

>

> The carbs in Bananas are hard to break down. Bananas

> are an excellent

> nutritional source, just not easy to digest

> (especially at the level of

> ripeness that we eat them). -D

>

>

>

>

>

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I've been lucky then because i have a banana for

breakfast every morning without any troubles at all.

So far it's been eight weeks and I'm pain free.

--- Jess Guim <jessguim@...> wrote:

> :

>

> Bananas are not hard to digest, but its chemical

> content creates acidity on the stomach and gall

> bladder which ctriggers gallstone attack. I've been

> attacked two times by gallstone after eating

> bananas.

>

> Jess

>

> Seoane <robert_seoane@...> wrote:

>

> I'm surprised you say that since all my life, if

> I've

> ever had digestive problems, doctors have always

> told

> me to have soft foods such as saltine crackers and

> bananas so that my stomach doesn't have to overwork.

> I'd like to know where you get the information that

> bananas are difficult to digest.

>

> --- Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Bananas are actually very hard to digest. -D

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From:

> > Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...>

> > To:

> >

>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

> >

> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 7:37 PM

> > Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms

> > worsening/AF Betafood

> >

> >

> >

> > The reason you had that attack is because you had

> > pasta. You can't overfill yourself when you're in

> > the

> > middle of attacks. Just eat the minimum amount of

> > food

> > you can and it will go away., Stay close to non

> > acidic

> > fruits, soft vegetables and water or broth. Eat

> > only

> > easily digestible food such as bananas and soup

> > broth.

> > Give your suffering digestive system a break for a

> > week and it will get better, but stay on the diet

> > for

> > at least eight weeks so your liver can heal

> > itself.

> >

> > You are still suffering because during your

> > attacks

> > you have had coffee and liquor and you have eaten

> > late. Every time you give your liver a break, you

> > ruin

> > it by poisoning it with things that you know are

> > bad

> > for you. The only way you're going to stop is if

> > you

> > cant stand the pain any longer. Then you'll see

> > how

> > easy it is to live without this stuff as long as

> > your

> > pain free. Is the pain making you throw up? If its

> > not, consider yourself lucky. But lacl of sleep is

> > very bad for you too.

> >

> > --- franniboy@...<mailto:franniboy@...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Situation and symtoms worse today. It's 8:40 PM

> > EST

> > > and just had another

> > > attack post dinner.... veggies in pasta. Just

> > made

> > > myself a beets and carrot juice

> > > drink since I had the hardest time finding A-F

> > Beta

> > > vitammins for immmediate

> > > use today. No local practioners I contacted

> > today

> > > carry it. I'll pursue

> > > tomorrow and also contact the mfgr. GB settling

> > down

> > > now. I think I will go on a

> > > near strict fast the rest of this week, drink

> > water,

> > > apple and beet juices and

> > > eating raw fruits and veggies as I get hungry in

> > > limited amounts.

> > >

> > > All for now... yesterday I felt great until my

> > > middle of the night attacks.

> > > Let's see if this beet juice helps tonite.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Fran

> > >

> > >

> > > **************************************

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I have digestive problem also and my TCM doctor told me to stay away from two

things, banana and ice cream. I fight with him about banana since i love it so

much. He just smiled and said " stay away " God bless. RayFrom: Dave Shelden

[mailto: wholehealthawareness@...]gallstones@...: Mon,

24 Sep 2007 08:14:50 -0700Subject: Re: Re: GB symptoms worsening/AF

Betafood

The carbs in Bananas are hard to break down. Good example of the nutritional

knowledge base of most MDs (as of '93, only 3 out of 126 medical schools in the

country had a required nutrition course to graduate). Your stomach performs 4

main functions in the digestive process. First and foremost mechanical. This is

the reason the doctor recommended " soft " foods. HCL for an acidic environ to

break down proteins into polypeptide chains. The secretion of pepsin and a

couple of other enzymes, again for breaking down proteins. And immediate

absorption of water (and alcohol). Outside of the mechanical action, virtually

no digestion of carbs takes place until the duodenum. In case of bananas the

riper the easier because the enzymes present convert the starches into simpler

sugars. Bananas are an excellent nutritional source, just not easy to digest

(especially at the level of ripeness that we eat them). -D ----- Original

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