Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Have been on Gallcleanse, (dissolvent and flush), just short 21 days of 6 month regime, 250.00, money back guarantee. Have only had 2 attacks since starting. They were close to when I started taking it. About 60-70 % as bad as before I started taking it. Plan on having another ultrasound before the end of the year. After reading this forum for 6 months, I have a suspicion that I still will have some. I'll be satisfied with Gallcleanse if my largest stone is gone. I can discipline myself in ANYWAY when it comes to food. Can anyone out there tell me of a diet that will keep them permanently at " bay " . Thanks, thanks, thanks. gallassero@... CC <cobchc@...> wrote: I appreciated your posts regarding preparation for a cleanse....I have been checking out some of the sites you recommended....I am a little leary of the Gallcleanse site as I have been unable to substantiate that any of the studies they cite have actually been done....they cite obscure pubications that I could not locate ...some of the studies were done in Cairo??? Also no luck in finding any info on Drs. Tribhaven and Pranay. Dr. Pranay's picture shows up on a clip art site. Do you have any indications that this product is anything more than marketing hype? I think you are wise to suggest preparing for a cleanse....I would like to do this....but not sure that Gallcleanse is legitimate at all...do you have any input on this? Thanks again! --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 As I've said on this group before. I've been on a mostly vegatarian diet for six weeks now, and I have had no attacks whatsoever. I also have lost 12 pounds and I feel great. The only animal protein I allow myself is chicken or fish. I've even had small portions of beef only twice in the last month. I have not attempted any type of cleanse. I watch my diet very carefully and avoid any type of saturated fat. Other than the aforementioned animal protein, I eat nuts and legumes as well as avocados for protein, but not too kuch because it does have fat, even though they are good fats. I do not eat eggs anymore. I eat an apple or pear or drink a few glasses of apple juice daily to soften my stones, and take lecithin, milk thistle and a gallstone dissolver called Stone free daily; these are vitamin pills comprised of roots and herbs known to improve the function oif your liver, bile and gallbladder. I love my diet and feel that I can eat this way for the rest of my life. I also exercise regularly. Good luck with whatever your choice may be. --- Gallassero <gallassero@...> wrote: > Have been on Gallcleanse, (dissolvent and flush), > just short 21 days of 6 month regime, 250.00, money > back guarantee. Have only had 2 attacks since > starting. They were close to when I started taking > it. About 60-70 % as bad as before I started taking > it. Plan on having another ultrasound before the end > of the year. After reading this forum for 6 months, > I have a suspicion that I still will have some. I'll > be satisfied with Gallcleanse if my largest stone is > gone. I can discipline myself in ANYWAY when it > comes to food. Can anyone out there tell me of a > diet that will keep them permanently at " bay " . > Thanks, thanks, thanks. gallassero@... > > CC <cobchc@...> wrote: I appreciated > your posts regarding preparation for a cleanse....I > have > been checking out some of the sites you > recommended....I am a little > leary of the Gallcleanse site as I have been unable > to substantiate > that any of the studies they cite have actually been > done....they cite > obscure pubications that I could not locate ...some > of the studies were > done in Cairo??? Also no luck in finding any info on > Drs. Tribhaven > and Pranay. Dr. Pranay's picture shows up on a clip > art site. Do you > have any indications that this product is anything > more than marketing > hype? I think you are wise to suggest preparing for > a cleanse....I > would like to do this....but not sure that > Gallcleanse is legitimate at > all...do you have any input on this? Thanks again! > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. > Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Gallstones are created for a myriad of reasons. The best diet for one person may or may not be the best for another. This is not to take anything away from 's diet. It sounds excellent. There are plenty of people on vegetarian diets who are dealing with gallstones. Again, a myriad of reasons. So even the very best diet advised by the best expert is somewhat of a shotgun approach unless tailored to the individual in the moment. When it comes to fats, and this is only a part of the picture, it is about quality. In terms of the dissolution of stones which have already formed the restriction of quality fats may not be the most advantageous avenue. If one measures success based on the dissolution of the largest " stone " , we might be setting ourselves up for a loss even though we have made great progress. Gallbladder problems are a symptom of much broader imbalances, success is in the increase of quality (and in the end quantity, but that is only measured in a moment) of life. The fallacy of flushing is that in a 48 hour period we are going to " heal " the situation. Even if we eliminate the entire contents of our gallbladder in the first flush, there is much more work to do. One of the largest problems with gastric bypass is that an individual may be left with a virtual tent of skin tissue from the rapid loss. It is the same with our gallbladders. Long hard diligent life changes and hard work save gallbladders and lives. Sometimes psoriasis, arthritis, neuralgia etc. disappear, blood pressure recedes, attitudes change. There are no silver bullets, only iron wills and golden hearts. , that incredible discipline you have also may mean that when someone colors outside of the lines (especially yourself) you might tighten up in response. Your gallbladder has muscle and the same happens. One of those " other " factors. For all of us: Chi gong, tai chi, or picking out and contemplating the lint in our navels may be of great value... Always, in all ways, -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Vanadeux -Question As I've said on this group before. I've been on a mostly vegatarian diet for six weeks now, and I have had no attacks whatsoever. I also have lost 12 pounds and I feel great. The only animal protein I allow myself is chicken or fish. I've even had small portions of beef only twice in the last month. I have not attempted any type of cleanse. I watch my diet very carefully and avoid any type of saturated fat. Other than the aforementioned animal protein, I eat nuts and legumes as well as avocados for protein, but not too kuch because it does have fat, even though they are good fats. I do not eat eggs anymore. I eat an apple or pear or drink a few glasses of apple juice daily to soften my stones, and take lecithin, milk thistle and a gallstone dissolver called Stone free daily; these are vitamin pills comprised of roots and herbs known to improve the function oif your liver, bile and gallbladder. I love my diet and feel that I can eat this way for the rest of my life. I also exercise regularly. Good luck with whatever your choice may be. --- Gallassero <gallassero@...<mailto:gallassero@...>> wrote: > Have been on Gallcleanse, (dissolvent and flush), > just short 21 days of 6 month regime, 250.00, money > back guarantee. Have only had 2 attacks since > starting. They were close to when I started taking > it. About 60-70 % as bad as before I started taking > it. Plan on having another ultrasound before the end > of the year. After reading this forum for 6 months, > I have a suspicion that I still will have some. I'll > be satisfied with Gallcleanse if my largest stone is > gone. I can discipline myself in ANYWAY when it > comes to food. Can anyone out there tell me of a > diet that will keep them permanently at " bay " . > Thanks, thanks, thanks. gallassero@...<mailto:gallassero@...> > > CC <cobchc@...<mailto:cobchc@...>> wrote: I appreciated > your posts regarding preparation for a cleanse....I > have > been checking out some of the sites you > recommended....I am a little > leary of the Gallcleanse site as I have been unable > to substantiate > that any of the studies they cite have actually been > done....they cite > obscure pubications that I could not locate ...some > of the studies were > done in Cairo??? Also no luck in finding any info on > Drs. Tribhaven > and Pranay. Dr. Pranay's picture shows up on a clip > art site. Do you > have any indications that this product is anything > more than marketing > hype? I think you are wise to suggest preparing for > a cleanse....I > would like to do this....but not sure that > Gallcleanse is legitimate at > all...do you have any input on this? Thanks again! > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. > Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow<http://get.games.yah\ oo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 You may want to reconsider. Barb 10 Health benefits of eggs - http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/10-health-benefits-of-eggs.html ----- Original Message ----- From: " Seoane " <robert_seoane@...> <gallstones > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Vanadeux -Question I do not eat eggs anymore. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 I totally agree with what you wrote. Each individual needs to deal with their gallbladder issue in their own way. Further, the gallstones are most definitely a symptom. I'm not a doctor so I don't think I of course can never say what would be the underlying problem for each individual. Each person has to find that out for themselves. But a healthy lifelong eating lifestyle can't hurt. Of course I empathize with those who have reactions to certain healthy foods. But if you dont want your gallbladder removed, I suppose one might have to find other alternatives to relieve or stop further pain. One reaction I have noticed that worries me and has nothing to do with the diet is that before I adopted this eating lifestyle, I started to develop a skin rash in the form of small red pimples on my legs, especially just above the knees. They haven't gone away. My doctor says it's a reaction from my liver. But I'm assuming that they'd go away once I changed my eating habits over six weeks ago. Or maybe this has nothing to do with my liver at all. Can anyone help me with this? --- Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote: > Gallstones are created for a myriad of reasons. > The best diet for one person may or may not be the > best for another. This is not to take anything away > from 's diet. It sounds excellent. There are > plenty of people on vegetarian diets who are dealing > with gallstones. Again, a myriad of reasons. So > even the very best diet advised by the best expert > is somewhat of a shotgun approach unless tailored to > the individual in the moment. When it comes to > fats, and this is only a part of the picture, it is > about quality. In terms of the dissolution of > stones which have already formed the restriction of > quality fats may not be the most advantageous > avenue. > > If one measures success based on the > dissolution of the largest " stone " , we might be > setting ourselves up for a loss even though we have > made great progress. Gallbladder problems are a > symptom of much broader imbalances, success is in > the increase of quality (and in the end quantity, > but that is only measured in a moment) of life. The > fallacy of flushing is that in a 48 hour period we > are going to " heal " the situation. Even if we > eliminate the entire contents of our gallbladder in > the first flush, there is much more work to do. One > of the largest problems with gastric bypass is that > an individual may be left with a virtual tent of > skin tissue from the rapid loss. It is the same > with our gallbladders. Long hard diligent life > changes and hard work save gallbladders and lives. > Sometimes psoriasis, arthritis, neuralgia etc. > disappear, blood pressure recedes, attitudes change. > There are no silver bullets, only iron wills and > golden hearts. > > , that incredible discipline you have > also may mean that when someone colors outside of > the lines (especially yourself) you might tighten up > in response. Your gallbladder has muscle and the > same happens. One of those " other " factors. For > all of us: Chi gong, tai chi, or picking out and > contemplating the lint in our navels may be of great > value... > > > Always, in all ways, > > > -Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > Seoane<mailto:robert_seoane@...> > To: > gallstones <mailto:gallstones > > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: Vanadeux -Question > > > > As I've said on this group before. I've been on a > mostly vegatarian diet for six weeks now, and I > have > had no attacks whatsoever. I also have lost 12 > pounds > and I feel great. The only animal protein I allow > myself is chicken or fish. I've even had small > portions of beef only twice in the last month. I > have > not attempted any type of cleanse. > > I watch my diet very carefully and avoid any type > of > saturated fat. Other than the aforementioned > animal > protein, I eat nuts and legumes as well as > avocados > for protein, but not too kuch because it does have > fat, even though they are good fats. I do not eat > eggs > anymore. I eat an apple or pear or drink a few > glasses > of apple juice daily to soften my stones, and take > lecithin, milk thistle and a gallstone dissolver > called Stone free daily; these are vitamin pills > comprised of roots and herbs known to improve the > function oif your liver, bile and gallbladder. > > I love my diet and feel that I can eat this way > for > the rest of my life. I also exercise regularly. > > Good luck with whatever your choice may be. > > --- Gallassero > <gallassero@...<mailto:gallassero@...>> > wrote: > > > Have been on Gallcleanse, (dissolvent and > flush), > > just short 21 days of 6 month regime, 250.00, > money > > back guarantee. Have only had 2 attacks since > > starting. They were close to when I started > taking > > it. About 60-70 % as bad as before I started > taking > > it. Plan on having another ultrasound before the > end > > of the year. After reading this forum for 6 > months, > > I have a suspicion that I still will have some. > I'll > > be satisfied with Gallcleanse if my largest > stone is > > gone. I can discipline myself in ANYWAY when it > > comes to food. Can anyone out there tell me of a > > diet that will keep them permanently at " bay " . > > Thanks, thanks, thanks. > gallassero@...<mailto:gallassero@...> > > > > CC <cobchc@...<mailto:cobchc@...>> > wrote: I appreciated > > your posts regarding preparation for a > cleanse....I > > have > > been checking out some of the sites you > > recommended....I am a little > > leary of the Gallcleanse site as I have been > unable > > to substantiate > > that any of the studies they cite have actually > been > > done....they cite > > obscure pubications that I could not locate > ...some > > of the studies were > > done in Cairo??? Also no luck in finding any > info on > > Drs. Tribhaven > > and Pranay. Dr. Pranay's picture shows up on a > clip > > art site. Do you > > have any indications that this product is > anything > > more than marketing > > hype? I think you are wise to suggest preparing > for > > a cleanse....I > > would like to do this....but not sure that > > Gallcleanse is legitimate at > > all...do you have any input on this? Thanks > again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? > Perfect. > > Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly > Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at > Games. > > http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow<http://get.games.yah\ oo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Building a website is a piece of cake. 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