Re: Advice to take proteins

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I also work out but have read that people with GB problems should not consume

much red meat or eggs. Therefore I started drinking whey protein drinks. I

think you need to ease up on the meat and eggs. I will say that organic eggs

haven't bothered me, but I still keep them to a minimum.

Amber

Guys i want to go back to the gym but i would like to know if that is

counterproductive or would have a boomerang effect if i take or consume proteins

(beef, eggs, milk also) to do my workouts. Also i wonder if doing exercises

would affect the movement of the stones and cause pain. Please, i need

suggestions.

.

[Guest guest]

For protein sources, whey protein is great, but watch for all the fillers they

may have in them. Egg whites should be fine, as they have no fat in them.

There is some ideas that one should avoid excess dairy if you have kidney

stones, but I have not found definitive source for this...to include low fat

yogurt, cottage cheese and ricotta cheese are good. I would avoid overly

processes cheeses...your body does not digest these very easily.

I have no idea about the movement of working out to cause the stones to move.

----- Original Message ----

From: Amber <amber@...>

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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 5:26:46 AM

Subject: Re: Advice to take proteins

I also work out but have read that people with GB problems should not consume

much red meat or eggs. Therefore I started drinking whey protein drinks. I think

you need to ease up on the meat and eggs. I will say that organic eggs haven't

bothered me, but I still keep them to a minimum.

Amber

Guys i want to go back to the gym but i would like to know if that is

counterproductive or would have a boomerang effect if i take or consume proteins

(beef, eggs, milk also) to do my workouts. Also i wonder if doing exercises

would affect the movement of the stones and cause pain. Please, i need

suggestions.

..

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Keri.

I'm doing much better since watching my diet, but not over the hump yet.

I found that lemon juice in water has been most helpful too, except I've

experienced a noticeable weight loss over the past month. Since my last doctor

visit 2 years ago, I've lost about 10 lbs. (most in the few weeks I think) and

am

concerned about losing too much weight (my average weight 155 at 5'6 " )...

Had much physical activity this past weekend and either the preoccupation

with what I was doing or the activity itself seemed to help my GB issues,

although I have found that movement/position while sleeping, e.g., has affectd

my GB

symptoms suggesting I have a very " mobile stone " . Not sure if the kink in my

back today is a result of a mild muscle pull or the stone.

Have ultrasound and bloodwork scripts as soon as I get time. Otherwise, I'm

feeling much better than I did last week and have alot more energy.

All for now... reporting in.

Regards to all,

Fran

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Thank you Amber and Kery. I appreciate your help.

----- Original Message ----

From: Keri Schwenker <keri_schwenker@...>

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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:58:08 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Advice to take proteins

For protein sources, whey protein is great, but watch for all the fillers they

may have in them. Egg whites should be fine, as they have no fat in them. There

is some ideas that one should avoid excess dairy if you have kidney stones, but

I have not found definitive source for this...to include low fat yogurt, cottage

cheese and ricotta cheese are good. I would avoid overly processes

cheeses...your body does not digest these very easily.

I have no idea about the movement of working out to cause the stones to move.

----- Original Message ----

From: Amber <ambermlaboure (DOT) com>

gallstones@gro ups.com

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 5:26:46 AM

Subject: Re: Advice to take proteins

I also work out but have read that people with GB problems should not consume

much red meat or eggs. Therefore I started drinking whey protein drinks. I think

you need to ease up on the meat and eggs. I will say that organic eggs haven't

bothered me, but I still keep them to a minimum.

Amber

Guys i want to go back to the gym but i would like to know if that is

counterproductive or would have a boomerang effect if i take or consume proteins

(beef, eggs, milk also) to do my workouts. Also i wonder if doing exercises

would affect the movement of the stones and cause pain. Please, i need

suggestions.

..

[Guest guest]

Good for you - smart smart move to do such a successful cleanse - in two weeks

do another one, because stones from the back of the liver will move up -

eliminate them. I wouldn't hesitate to go to the gym now. I found when I did

my first flush - the stones in the main portal of the liver were those

eliminated first - these were the ones causing most of my problems.

ernesto hospina <ernhosp@...> wrote: Hello guys. I had my first

attack about 45 days ago. I used to go to the gym and take supplements besides

the whey protein and had a healthy diet, but i messed up with a crazy weekend

previous to the attack. I didn't want they take my GB and decided to do the

flush. I got rid of 700 stones( yes, i counted all), most of them green. Doctors

told me to not eat fat neither protein because it becomes fat. However i want to

go back to the gym, that is my life. It relieves me from my stressful life. I

lost 15 pounds (i am 5'7, 153 lbs) and i am in my ideal weight now.

Guys i want to go back to the gym but i would like to know if that is

counterproductive or would have a boomerang effect if i take or consume proteins

(beef, eggs, milk also) to do my workouts. Also i wonder if doing exercises

would affect the movement of the stones and cause pain. Please, i need

suggestions.

Thanks

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hello carlos-

your body needs protein. i started off w/ proteins that were easy for

my body to digest- fish, seafood, then after 1-2 months added

poultry. i also started off w/ very small amounts. i was buying my

fish from costco, which is individually frozen. one piece, which

would be a normal serving for a person w/ healthy digestive system,

started off as 3 servings for me. i was also able to eat 1 soft

boiled egg a day, but it was awhile before i could eat more than

that. after about 6 months of fish and poultry i tried some lamb,

then a few months later beef. they are only occasional in my diet, i

still mainly stick to fish and poultry.

as for the milk, its not working out for me. i've read that dairy is

really an issue for people w/ gall bladder problems. it has been 1

year since my last attack, i eliminated dairy from my diet. i've

recently found a source of raw dairy, which is easier to digest, and

i don't think my gall bladder is appreciating it. (is there anyone

out there that has been able to add dairy back into their diet

successfully?)

as for exercising...i'd think that would be a great thing to do. i've

read it keeps your digesting system moving and things don't get

stagnant. it helps to keep the bile flowing so the sludge and stones

don't form. i know i can tell the difference if i slack off on my

walking. however, i don't do any vigorous gym workouts so i can't

speak for that.

i know mainstream doctors tell us not to eat fat because they say

that is what causes the gallstones. according to dr thomas cowan

(http://fourfoldhealing.com/Q & A%20Gall%20Stones.htm)eating too much

of the wrong kinds of fats and not enough good fats is what causes

the stones. but you do have to start off w/out fat to let your

digestive system heal and then gradually add them back in.

i hope i've been of some help. best of luck on your journey.

be well,

~beverly

--- In gallstones , ernesto hospina <ernhosp@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello guys. I had my first attack about 45 days ago. I used to go

to the gym and take supplements besides the whey protein and had a

healthy diet, but i messed up with a crazy weekend previous to the

attack. I didn't want they take my GB and decided to do the flush. I

got rid of 700 stones( yes, i counted all), most of them green.

Doctors told me to not eat fat neither protein because it becomes

fat. However i want to go back to the gym, that is my life. It

relieves me from my stressful life. I lost 15 pounds (i am 5'7, 153

lbs) and i am in my ideal weight now.

>

> Guys i want to go back to the gym but i would like to know if that

is counterproductive or would have a boomerang effect if i take or

consume proteins (beef, eggs, milk also) to do my workouts. Also i

wonder if doing exercises would affect the movement of the stones and

cause pain. Please, i need suggestions.

>

>

Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I have a question:

Will physical exertion irritate an ailing gall bladder? Mine's settled down

since about two weeks ago, but I find when doing, for instance, outside chores

I can get that feeling of an attack which passes after a short time.

Yesterday I splurged and ate some pepperoni, cheese and a hotdog (sort of a

test) throughout the day. It did not bother me at all. Last night went out and

had a salad, but it was late (after 10 PM) and that did bother me a little

which I attribute to easting later than I should have... mild discomfort didn't

last long and was quelled by drinking my lemon juice in water.

Otherwise, I'm doing much better these days having altered my diet. It's the

weight loss that concerns me and I'll plan to do another flush soon (last one

was about 3 weeks ago) in an attempt move/pass my stone(s). I think it's

possible for someone to lose 6-8 lbs. in a mere few weeks when changing/limiting

their diet to calm down the gall bladder and digestive processes... true?

The noticeable weigh loss has had me a little concerned since I am/was at a

good weight for my size.

Thanks.

Fran

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[Guest guest]

I drink organic whole milk because I love it and have never had a problem with

milk. Some people cannot tolerate milk. I have found that I can occasionally

eat an organic egg. I rarely eat red meat any more, just chicken and fish. As

far as exercising, even gentle bouncing on a rebounder (mini-trampoline) is

extremely helpful. It exercises every cell in the and is great for lymph

drainage. As to fat, the body needs the proper fats, e.g. olive oil, coconut

oil, fish oil, flax oil, avocados.

Amber

(is there anyone

out there that has been able to add dairy back into their diet

successfully?)

as for exercising...i'd think that would be a great thing to do. i've

read it keeps your digesting system moving and things don't get

stagnant.i know mainstream doctors tell us not to eat fat because they say

that is what causes the gallstones.

.

[Guest guest]

I've drank milk my entire life, and when I started having gall bladder

problems I have had a problem with milk. We were even drinking raw milk, and

when I tried switching to raw skim milk- same problem. I've read that food

allergies can lead to gall bladder problems, but that's just one theory. It

would explain why all of us can tolerate different foods!

Have a blessed day!

Evie Maddox

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of rnd4me_94

Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:28 PM

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Subject: Re: Advice to take proteins

as for the milk, its not working out for me. i've read that dairy is

really an issue for people w/ gall bladder problems.

[Guest guest]

Same thing happened to me. I always was able to drink

milk until I had a bad gallbladder attack two months

ago. Since then, I can't drink milk without feeling

intense gas pain, but I have no problem with either

soy milk or lactose free milk.

--- Evie Maddox <evie@...> wrote:

> I've drank milk my entire life, and when I started

> having gall bladder

> problems I have had a problem with milk. We were

> even drinking raw milk, and

> when I tried switching to raw skim milk- same

> problem. I've read that food

> allergies can lead to gall bladder problems, but

> that's just one theory. It

> would explain why all of us can tolerate different

> foods!

>

>

>

> Have a blessed day!

>

> Evie Maddox

>

>

>

> From: gallstones

> [mailto:gallstones ] On

> Behalf Of rnd4me_94

> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:28 PM

> gallstones

> Subject: Re: Advice to take proteins

>

>

>

> as for the milk, its not working out for me. i've

> read that dairy is

> really an issue for people w/ gall bladder problems.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

If I were you, I wouldnt test myself with pepperoni

and cheese and hot dogs. They're bad for you anyway

and even if you didnt have peroblems this time around,

you will the more you get used to it again, The

discomfort you felt after the salad could still be

attributed to your eating those bad foods earlier.

If you want to gain some weight, I would suggest

eating healthy foods that can bulk you up like bread.

Try eating more but of only healthy food.

--- franniboy@... wrote:

> I have a question:

>

> Will physical exertion irritate an ailing gall

> bladder? Mine's settled down

> since about two weeks ago, but I find when doing,

> for instance, outside chores

> I can get that feeling of an attack which passes

> after a short time.

>

> Yesterday I splurged and ate some pepperoni, cheese

> and a hotdog (sort of a

> test) throughout the day. It did not bother me at

> all. Last night went out and

> had a salad, but it was late (after 10 PM) and that

> did bother me a little

> which I attribute to easting later than I should

> have... mild discomfort didn't

> last long and was quelled by drinking my lemon juice

> in water.

>

> Otherwise, I'm doing much better these days having

> altered my diet. It's the

> weight loss that concerns me and I'll plan to do

> another flush soon (last one

> was about 3 weeks ago) in an attempt move/pass my

> stone(s). I think it's

> possible for someone to lose 6-8 lbs. in a mere few

> weeks when changing/limiting

> their diet to calm down the gall bladder and

> digestive processes... true?

>

> The noticeable weigh loss has had me a little

> concerned since I am/was at a

> good weight for my size.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Fran

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>Will physical exertion irritate an ailing gall bladder?>

I seriously doubt it.

>Yesterday I splurged and ate some pepperoni, cheese and a hotdog>

Yuck. Eee gads.

Amber

.

[Guest guest]

That's interesting. From what I've heard, the liver getting clogged

and not working right will cause allergies. Many people who cleanse

their liver enough times get rid of all their allergies. Liver not

working at full capacity also can lead to gall bladder problems.

I'm not sure what comes first, but liver health is definitly important

and too often neglected as a major part of our health.

Best Regards,

Vince

>

> I've drank milk my entire life, and when I started having gall bladder

> problems I have had a problem with milk. We were even drinking raw

milk, and

> when I tried switching to raw skim milk- same problem. I've read

that food

> allergies can lead to gall bladder problems, but that's just one

theory. It

> would explain why all of us can tolerate different foods!

>

>

>

> Have a blessed day!

>

> Evie Maddox

>

>

>

> From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

> Behalf Of rnd4me_94

> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:28 PM

> gallstones

> Subject: Re: Advice to take proteins

>

>

>

> as for the milk, its not working out for me. i've read that dairy is

> really an issue for people w/ gall bladder problems.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes....adding dairy back in was possible for me, but only raw milk and

cream.....homogenization and especially the pasteurization destroys all the

enzymes needed to digest the milk as well as all the beneficial bacteria....of

course not all states allows raw milk for sale.......

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