Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 How about anybody who has had complications from gall bladder surgery? I know tons of people who have. Jean **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Oh things like diarrea after meals with any fat in it-not so nice when out in public, Accidently cut bile ducts-very serious, Continued stones in ducts, Continued pain in gall bladder area, Infections, Death -just to name a few but these few are biggys. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I know a lady who had her Gallbladder taken out not to long ago. One night she and her husband went out to dinner. She ate something with onions in it and the next day could not leave the house due to diarrea. She has a lot of diarrea now that her Gallbladder is gone. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 That would be great to know as well, and what were the complications? --- gingsong@... wrote: > How about anybody who has had complications from > gall bladder surgery? I know > tons of people who have. > Jean > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways > to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Nearly 18 months ago I had gallbladder pain for 6 months, at times excruciating. I changed my diet - almost completely off of red meat , occasionally eat an egg and a bit of chicken, and major increase in salads, fruits and vegetables especially apple juice and apples and I have it all under control. No pain, and I have yet to try the flush- although I have a friend who has been doing a flush for years, 3 times a year, as she had high cholesterol readings but she has never had gallbladder pain and flushed major stones and her cholesterol numbers went down. I am convinced that for most people if your gallbladder is acting up it is your body's way of telling you to change your diet. I am taking supplements, A-F Beta Food , not with every meal but a couple of times a week. I have done 's liver cleanse/detox and I could really feel the difference. But for me symptoms are gone and will post once I start the flush FB On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:45 AM, wrote: > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help with > gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone gone > back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > Battaglia Tel 818 897 8500 Cel 818 268 5395 fbattaglia@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 my friend, Totally independent researchers no longer exist unfortunately. They are the only ones who may be trustworthy with such a study and thats if the funding comes directly from the people that want the study done and not some pharmaceutical company. Keep in mind that if you want a study performed they may be the same researchers who say that microwaves are safe for use and that cell phones can be next to your brain and groin without causing cancer. I dont beleive either study. Things in life are rarely as cut and dry, black and white as are the conditions found in a science lab. The medical mafia would go belly up before they would allow an accepted study to prove anything to do with alternative medicine. An ultrasound would not be a definitive test for gallstones as it would show calcified stones only. A vast majority of stones being passed are uncalcified. Calcified stones are more difficult to pass from what I have read. Apparently there is a specific flush one could do to remove the calcified stones which I still have to try out. Stop worrying about studies and do a series of flushes. Your own body knows more about how things work than any study could EVER provide. In health, Brad > > > > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof positive > testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > > > > gallstones@: tanya7774@: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:45:22 > +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help > with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone > gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 > 1:38 PM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 > 1:38 PM > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I have talked to several people that has had gallbladder surgery and have had no problems after including my husband . ----- Original Message ---- From: 7774 <tanya7774@...> gallstones Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 8:06:49 AM Subject: Re: Re: Alternative Therapy That would be great to know as well, and what were the complications? --- gingsongaol (DOT) com wrote: > How about anybody who has had complications from > gall bladder surgery? I know > tons of people who have. > Jean > > > > ************ **Start the year off right. Easy ways > to stay in shape. > http://body. aol.com/fitness/ winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300 000002489 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools. search.. com/newsearch/ category. php?category= shopping ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Actually, ultrasounds do show non-calcified cholesterol stones. Mine did clearly. There is a possibility that tiny ones will not show up very well, I imagine. AMDG, Colleen Kessler ----- Original Message ----- From: ontarioguy2334 gallstones Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:43 AM Subject: Re: Alternative Therapy my friend, Totally independent researchers no longer exist unfortunately. They are the only ones who may be trustworthy with such a study and thats if the funding comes directly from the people that want the study done and not some pharmaceutical company. Keep in mind that if you want a study performed they may be the same researchers who say that microwaves are safe for use and that cell phones can be next to your brain and groin without causing cancer. I dont beleive either study. Things in life are rarely as cut and dry, black and white as are the conditions found in a science lab. The medical mafia would go belly up before they would allow an accepted study to prove anything to do with alternative medicine. An ultrasound would not be a definitive test for gallstones as it would show calcified stones only. A vast majority of stones being passed are uncalcified. Calcified stones are more difficult to pass from what I have read. Apparently there is a specific flush one could do to remove the calcified stones which I still have to try out. Stop worrying about studies and do a series of flushes. Your own body knows more about how things work than any study could EVER provide. In health, Brad > > > > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof positive > testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > > > > gallstones@: tanya7774@: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:45:22 > +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help > with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone > gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 > 1:38 PM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 > 1:38 PM > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Brad, Many thanks for your note. I have had gallstones for fifteen years and have done numerous flushes over the years, and have also tried some very expensive herbal treatments and tried many other treatments. I eat a virtually fat free diet and have done so for years, which I guess is the reason why during this period have only had around ten major attacks. I note this to assure you that I have tried flushes over the years and done so with diligence. My recent ultrasound, despite numerous flushes over the months, show the same gallbladder packed with the same small stones. This point however is being consistently missed, and is one that have noted twice now. Ignore the pharmaceutical companies, the medical profession and those whom many feel have vested interests. Surely it is in the interests of the exponents of the 'gallstone flushing' sector to provide definitive evidence of their system. This would cut out the pharmaceutical companies and the medical profession out of the picture and provide falsifiable evidence for their system. I am not asking for the medical profession, or the drug companies to provide this evidence, I am asking that it be done by those who claim that it in fact works. To date I have seen no evidence that this has EVER been done. Why not? Where is the evidence that it works? Victor mentions that the archives on this list show that lab tests that were done on matter expelled after flushes show that cholesterol was expelled. Of this, not even a doctor would have doubt. I have not been able to find this information in the archive, but I do not doubt it. What it does not show are the expulsion of stones, which cannot be softened to semi-liquid by olive oil and lemon. Even the contact dissolution therapy, during which very powerful acidic chemicals are injected by pump through a spaghetti sized catheter into the gallstone and dissolve them in 95% of cases, takes 2-12 hours to dissolve them. As to your comment regarding the makeup of stones, well this is not a valid point. If a person has calcified gallstones discovered during an ultrasound and then the same person does a series of flushes and immediately returns for another ultrasound, this should show a demised amount of stones in the gallbladder. It would also proof the veracity of the flushing system. A long note, for which I apologize in advance, but I feel it important to debate this matter as it has a serious impact on our decisions as to what therapy to follow to deal with gallstone issues. Best regards to all - _____ From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of ontarioguy2334 Sent: January 9, 2008 9:43 AM gallstones Subject: Re: Alternative Therapy my friend, Totally independent researchers no longer exist unfortunately. They are the only ones who may be trustworthy with such a study and thats if the funding comes directly from the people that want the study done and not some pharmaceutical company. Keep in mind that if you want a study performed they may be the same researchers who say that microwaves are safe for use and that cell phones can be next to your brain and groin without causing cancer. I dont beleive either study. Things in life are rarely as cut and dry, black and white as are the conditions found in a science lab. The medical mafia would go belly up before they would allow an accepted study to prove anything to do with alternative medicine. An ultrasound would not be a definitive test for gallstones as it would show calcified stones only. A vast majority of stones being passed are uncalcified. Calcified stones are more difficult to pass from what I have read. Apparently there is a specific flush one could do to remove the calcified stones which I still have to try out. Stop worrying about studies and do a series of flushes. Your own body knows more about how things work than any study could EVER provide. In health, Brad > > > > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof positive > testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > > > > gallstones@: tanya7774@: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:45:22 > +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help > with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone > gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 > 1:38 PM > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 > 1:38 PM > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Its probably mostly people who turn to flushing only after they are experiencing serious gallbladder attacks. At that point it may be too late for some. Flushing is part of a longterm lifestyle change. Brad > > > > > > > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof > > positive > > testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > > > > > > > gallstones@: tanya7774@: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 > > 19:45:22 > > +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative > > therapy to help > > with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was > > wondering, has anyone > > gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative > > therapy and had an > > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the > > school of though, > > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I did not have ultrasounds but I can tell you about the following experience. I noticed a spot on my face and asked my dermatologist about it. He told me that it was an " age " spot (aka liver spot). I then did some liver flushes and the spot disappeared. On my next visit, I showed the doctor how the spot disappeared. He didn't comment much but didn't seem too surprised. It was kind of satisfiying to show him what I had done on my own without meds or surgery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hi Tony: What are non-calcified cholesterol stones which show up in ultasound. Are they normal and pass put on regular basis. It appears from what you say to be different from cholesterol and pigmnet stones which I beleive are called gallstones in these sites. regards! Rajesh --- Tony Kessler <tcjak86@...> wrote: > Actually, ultrasounds do show non-calcified > cholesterol stones. Mine did clearly. There is a > possibility that tiny ones will not show up very > well, I imagine. > > > AMDG, > Colleen Kessler > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ontarioguy2334 > gallstones > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: Alternative Therapy > > > my friend, > Totally independent researchers no longer exist > unfortunately. They > are the only ones who may be trustworthy with such > a study and thats > if the funding comes directly from the people that > want the study > done and not some pharmaceutical company. Keep in > mind that if you > want a study performed they may be the same > researchers who say that > microwaves are safe for use and that cell phones > can be next to your > brain and groin without causing cancer. I dont > beleive either study. > > Things in life are rarely as cut and dry, black > and white as are the > conditions found in a science lab. The medical > mafia would go belly > up before they would allow an accepted study to > prove anything to do > with alternative medicine. > > An ultrasound would not be a definitive test for > gallstones as it > would show calcified stones only. A vast majority > of stones being > passed are uncalcified. Calcified stones are more > difficult to pass > from what I have read. Apparently there is a > specific flush one > could do to remove the calcified stones which I > still have to try out. > > Stop worrying about studies and do a series of > flushes. Your own > body knows more about how things work than any > study could EVER > provide. > > In health, > Brad > > > > > > > > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the > proof positive > > testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > > > > > > > gallstones@: tanya7774@: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 > 19:45:22 > > +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards > alternative therapy to help > > with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was > wondering, has anyone > > gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative > therapy and had an > > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is > the school of > though, > > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: > 1/08/08 > > 1:38 PM > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: > 1/08/08 > > 1:38 PM > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks a lot Amber.. This should help a lot. I will try this in my next flush. Thanks ! Rajesh --- Amber <amber@...> wrote: > I found the olive oil goes down a lot easier if > mixed with grapefruit juice. Same results. > > Amber > > > > But now to start with Olive oil/Lemon juice is > getting > harder. Any other recipes which tastes little > better > > . > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hello, Liver spots are called such due to their color, not their attachment to the liver in any way. Best regards - I did not have ultrasounds but I can tell you about the following experience. I noticed a spot on my face and asked my dermatologist about it. He told me that it was an " age " spot (aka liver spot). I then did some liver flushes and the spot disappeared. On my next visit, I showed the doctor how the spot disappeared. He didn't comment much but didn't seem too surprised. It was kind of satisfiying to show him what I had done on my own without meds or surgery! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/09/08 10:16 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/09/08 10:16 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Wow! Do you have a before and after picture you could sure? gallstones@...: Fred.Niehaus@...: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:42:57 +0000Subject: Re: Alternative Therapy I did not have ultrasounds but I can tell you about the following experience.I noticed a spot on my face and asked my dermatologist about it. He told me that it was an " age " spot (aka liver spot). I then did some liver flushes and the spot disappeared. On my next visit, I showed the doctor how the spot disappeared. He didn't comment much but didn't seem too surprised. It was kind of satisfiying to show him what I had done on my own without meds or surgery! _________________________________________________________________ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC\ _VideoChat_distantfamily_012008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I use the A-F Betafood tablets daily and have had no more GB pain since starting to use them. Amber I am convinced that for most people if your gallbladder is acting up it is your body's way of telling you to change your diet. I am taking supplements, A-F Beta Food , not with every meal but a couple of times a week. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks a lot Amber. I will try A-F Betafood. For me more than pain, Ifeel bloatdness in the evenings and find difficulty in having dinners. More info about A-F Betafood is at http://altmedangel.com/liver.htm regards, Rajesh --- Amber <amber@...> wrote: > I use the A-F Betafood tablets daily and have had no > more GB pain since starting to use them. > > Amber > > > I am convinced that for most people if your > gallbladder is acting up > it is your body's way of telling you to change > your diet. > > I am taking supplements, A-F Beta Food , not with > every meal but a > couple of times a week. > . > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 , Not all stones that come from a flush come from the gall bladder. My sister did a cleanse got many stones out and she did not have a gall bladder at the time of the flush. Alot of stones are formed in the liver too. Your looking for black and white, what works for some might not work for others for various reasons' Jean **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Are you taking the herb Milk Thistle? This helps the liver. You might also try digestive enzymes. I eat my main meal around noon and then just something light later. No heavy dinner. Experiment and see what works for you. Amber Thanks a lot Amber. I will try A-F Betafood. For me more than pain, Ifeel bloatdness in the evenings and find difficulty in having dinners. More info about A-F Betafood is at http://altmedangel.com/liver.htm regards, Rajesh . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 That is NOT good for the body. We need good, healthy fats, like olive oil, coconut oil, avocadoes, nuts. Amber I eat a virtually fat free diet and have done so for years . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 My ONLY attack came after I ate my first ever Poor Boy sandwich (lots of meat). I went to a nutritionist recently and she put me on Cholocal (Standard Process). I passed a few more stones, but then stopped passing any. I didn't get good results with her so tried a different nutritionist. She muscle tested me on all the products the first nutritionist had put me on and I tested negatively to all except for the B-F Betafood that I'd been on for some time. I learned about B-F a long time ago and had started taking it on my own. I shall continue taking it. I rarely eat meat any more. I have had no more attacks. Amber THEN this past Summer I had the big one. It occurred right after eating my 3rd Philadelphia Cheese Steak sandwich within days of each other. As I've been recovering I have been returning to have my body tested and my supplements adjusted (through muscle testing). I take a Chinese herb called Liver Soothe and take Super Enzyme and sometimes Cholocal when I eat, among some other varied supplements. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 But it has long been known of the connection between liver function and two things: skin health and eyesight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I wish that I would have thought to take a picture, but I wasn't expecting the age spot to dissappear. It is something that had just developed recently and I don't think that I have any pictures at all. I suppose it could have been coincidence and possibly there was some other reason for the age spot dissappearing. But due to the timing, it sure seemed like the flushes were the reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I developed an age spot on my cheek a few years ago and the dr called it just that, age. Maybe if I remember I'll post a picture of my lovely cheek for comparisons sake. Thanks. gallstones@...: Fred.Niehaus@...: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:41:49 +0000Subject: Re: Alternative Therapy I wish that I would have thought to take a picture, but I wasn't expecting the age spot to dissappear. It is something that had just developed recently and I don't think that I have any pictures at all.I suppose it could have been coincidence and possibly there was some other reason for the age spot dissappearing. But due to the timing, it sure seemed like the flushes were the reason. _________________________________________________________________ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC\ _VideoChat_distantfamily_012008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Amber, When I said 'fat free' I did not include the healthy fats, though my gallbladder, like many others, cannot tolerate many types of nuts. I take supplements each day and have done for thirty years. I am fifty-five, run three times a week, and work out between. I weigh exactly what I did in my early twenties and climb mountains for a hobby! I have studied this disease for many years as a lay person and am well aware of all its constituent elements, alternative therapies and available treatments. I am presently trying to persuade Canadian doctors to introduce at least experimentally, the contact dissolution therapy, which definitely clears the gallbladder of all stones within 2-12 hours in outpatient treatment. I understand in the US, the Mayo Clinic are spearheading this technique. They seem apathetic about the technique, but it does work and clear stones in 95% of cases Someone suggested that I am looking at things from a 'black and white' perspective, and if this is the way one describes a demand for evidence, then yes, I am. Falsifiable evidence should quite easily be available if these flushes are successful, as I have noted in my messages. I am very puzzled as to why those for example, who sell information and supplements, cannot provide such. I have written to many of these people and many have patronisingly patted me on the head and sent me away - of course without any evidence. Anybody can say anything works. Without evidence it is just opinions. Best regards - Porretta _____ From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of Amber Sent: January 10, 2008 4:46 AM gallstones Subject: Re: Alternative Therapy That is NOT good for the body. We need good, healthy fats, like olive oil, coconut oil, avocadoes, nuts. Amber I eat a virtually fat free diet and have done so for years .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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