Re: Re: GERD (SILENT) WILL A LIVER CLEANSE HELP?

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A contact dermatitis for one. Long tutorial but a couple of things here. First

the human body is a donut. From your mouth to your anus you are open to the

outside world. Therefore you have the highest concentration of immunal defense

in the digestive tract because it is the most likely area to be exposed to a

pathogen. The human body is made up of 22 different cell types and all your

cells " differentiate " from these. Skin and the mucous membranes are the same

cell type and virtually identical. Anyone taking a ppi will eventually get

screwed up because they prevent the production of HCL. Stomach acidity being

one of your front line immunal defenses for anything entering by mouth as well

as digestive. Anyone not " bothered " by PPIs just has not been on them long

enough. Prediction: All PPIs will be pulled from the market within the next 2

decades as the long term horrific effects surface. The pharma industry can be a

myopic profiteering malignant beast. Always, in all ways, -Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: dreaminginnoother<mailto:dreaminginnoother@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:48 AM

Subject: Re: GERD (SILENT) WILL A LIVER CLEANSE HELP?

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> Liver cleanse might help depending on what is causing the GERD

problem. Diagnosis is suspect. Could be allergic. Don't let some

idiot put you on a protein pump inhibitor or it will really screw you

up. My best to Yah. -D

I can vouch for that. Nexium doesn't seem to bother some people but

it has made my life worse. And diagnosis has proven to be more of

proof to everyone else that I actually have a severe reflux problems.

Seven tests later and the doctor referred me to a surgeon who

admitted he was not sure the TWO recommended surgeries would even

fully help my problem. What kind of allergy could cause reflux?

greg

[Guest guest]

Also, not sure in a " silent " GERD case that it is reflux. Reflux should not be

silent. the symptoms here are basically swelling and irritation. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: dreaminginnoother<mailto:dreaminginnoother@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:48 AM

Subject: Re: GERD (SILENT) WILL A LIVER CLEANSE HELP?

>

> Liver cleanse might help depending on what is causing the GERD

problem. Diagnosis is suspect. Could be allergic. Don't let some

idiot put you on a protein pump inhibitor or it will really screw you

up. My best to Yah. -D

I can vouch for that. Nexium doesn't seem to bother some people but

it has made my life worse. And diagnosis has proven to be more of

proof to everyone else that I actually have a severe reflux problems.

Seven tests later and the doctor referred me to a surgeon who

admitted he was not sure the TWO recommended surgeries would even

fully help my problem. What kind of allergy could cause reflux?

greg

[Guest guest]

Great post! -D

----- Original Message -----

From: ontarioguy2334<mailto:ontarioguy2334@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 7:21 PM

Subject: Re: GERD (SILENT) WILL A LIVER CLEANSE HELP?

hehe Lover cleanse. Cute =) Dont worry I have a tendency to type

love as opposed to liver too.

In addition to what Dave said I think you should get checked for

Helicobacter Pylori. So far its the only known bacterium which can

survive the HCL of the stomach. I used to have tonnes to heartburn

back when I had big problems with this bacteria.

Those little buggers burrow into the mucosa of the stomach (its even

been found in the duodenum and jejunum) and secrete an alkaline

solution to protect themselves from the HCL of the stomach. If the

bacterial count gets too high it can actually effect the overall pH of

your stomach. The body senses this and triggers the stomach to

secrete more HCL and then you start to get symptoms such as GERD or

lots of heartburn (I probably had GERD just undiagnosed). This is

also why H Pylori is causing 60% of gastric ulcers and a certain

percentage of duodenal ulcers (ive forgotten what that percentage is).

Becuase the HCL production goes into overdrive and starts corroding

the lining of the stomach and intestines.

It also can secrete some kind of inflamitory chemical which im sure

doesnt help the health of the mucosa either.

You can do a blood test but I would try getting a breath test as well

to verify the blood.

I'm sure there are other factors involved in GERD maybe other

infections but that one bug I know is very common and causes lots of

trouble especially in chronically ill people.

I don't see why the Gb cleanses wouldn't help this problem. I got

massive benefit just from taking Manuka honey which has the strongest

antibacterial properties of any honey. The medications did not work

as I still tested positive after one round.

anyways here is good websites to check out:

http://www.helico.com/<http://www.helico.com/>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He\

licobacter_pylori>

Brad

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> Liver cleanse might help depending on what is causing the GERD

problem. Diagnosis is suspect. Could be allergic. Don't let some

idiot put you on a protein pump inhibitor or it will really screw you

up. My best to Yah. -D

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> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:20 PM

> Subject: GERD (SILENT) WILL A LIVER CLEANSE HELP?

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> i am new to this..

> i am only 25 but have silent gerd problems which aFfects my

throat( my

> throat feels enlarged and swallowing is difficult at times

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> wondering if anyone has been cured from this by doing the lover

> cleanse...

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