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On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:14:54 -0700 (PDT)

<dianamagic2000@...> wrote:

> i've noticed that very little talk of juicing in NT and this group. i eat

very little veggies,

and am juicing since it is easier to drink the stuff than to eat it. can

someone explain or

speak of juicing vs. eating raw or cooked? thanks diana

>

Probably because in the NT world juices are not considered whole foods. My own

personal

take is that they have a therapeutic use in fasting, either spiritual or

physical, and thus should be

consumed on a cyclical basis at best. But as a normal

item in the diet, other than very small quantities, they are best avoided.

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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:09:07 -0700 (PDT)

<dianamagic2000@...> wrote:

> now i don't know how i can get my green vegetables. i have TRIED to like

them. i have never liked them, however, i was able to drink them as though

they were medicinal. i have been juicing kale, carrots, cukes for a couple of

weeks now, about 2-3 times a week. isn't juicing better than not having any

green veggies or carrots? actually, i do like cucumbers and lettuce and sprouts

not juiced. would that be enough? thanks, diana

>

>

Hi ,

IMO, a little bit of juice isn't really that big of an issue, but drinking

juiced kale would be a problem for me no matter what. Yech!

I would try fermenting your veggies. Kimchi, kraut, gingered carrots, pickled

cukes, beets, etc. and see if that helps. I would definitely continue to eat the

cucumbers and lettuce. I would also get a refractometer

(http://www.brixpage.com) and test the quality of your veggies before buying

them. Improved quality sometimes goes a long way toward helping our tastebuds

with veggies. The difference in taste can be dramatic.

Otherwise, it is possible to have a very healthy diet with very little vegetable

matter. That in the end may be the way you have to go. Eating should always be

fun, IMO, and not looked at as a " medicinal " experience.

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  • 4 years later...

One doctor told me to buy a juicer and start juicing raw vegetables. I was

surprised to discover that I felt better the very next day. There are books

available with recipes for various veg/fruit combos to assist with various

health conditions. Might be worth looking for a book. Fran, I think you said

you consumed some canned beets. They would have been cooked. Raw (as in

juicing) would probably be better, but don't overdo on the quantity of beets. I

think a little bit would do you. Do you have any health practitioner you could

discuss this with? Not an M.D. because they normally do not study nutrition.

Amber

Got a little active this

morning, but not much pain or discomfort, so the juice/liquid fast is working.

The beet/carrot juice didn't seem to upset me either even though I drank it

somewhere afer hours between 8 and 8:30 PM last night.

.

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Try blending together 40% organic greens (switch between greens - collard, kale,

romaine...) with 60% fruits (I mix bananas, pears, and apples) to a creamy

substance, add about two tablespoons of flax seed, and three or four cubes of

ice. This is the best smoothie I have ever tried in my life. If you drink one

every day, you will begin sleeping better by the second day (or even the first)

and feel revitalized. It tastes relatively good too.

Typical blenders are not as effective at breaking past the cellular walls, so

your body has to finish the job. The body has a tough time with greens because

people normally lack the digestive enzymes to break down the cellular walls of

greens. So if you do continue the smoothie, its best to by a more powerful

blender like a VitaMix.

VICTORIA BOUTENKO, a raw foodest, discovered (or rediscovered) the smoothie

and can show how it has almost everything you need to maintain good health. I

suggest anyone who is interested to look her up. The green smoothie is by no

means a cure for gall stones. But the smoothie doesn't contain fat or

cholesterol, so it shouldn't offend a diseased gall bladder.

Amber <amber@...> wrote:

One doctor told me to buy a juicer and start juicing raw vegetables. I

was surprised to discover that I felt better the very next day. There are books

available with recipes for various veg/fruit combos to assist with various

health conditions. Might be worth looking for a book. Fran, I think you said you

consumed some canned beets. They would have been cooked. Raw (as in juicing)

would probably be better, but don't overdo on the quantity of beets. I think a

little bit would do you. Do you have any health practitioner you could discuss

this with? Not an M.D. because they normally do not study nutrition.

Amber

Got a little active this

morning, but not much pain or discomfort, so the juice/liquid fast is working.

The beet/carrot juice didn't seem to upset me either even though I drank it

somewhere afer hours between 8 and 8:30 PM last night.

..

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