Guest guest Posted August 26, 1999 Report Share Posted August 26, 1999 This is scary--guess who sees $$$$. You got it--they will be on the band wagon in no time--then the alternatives are less available without a scrip. L In a message dated 99-08-15 16:35:41 EDT, you write: << >From The Dallas Morning News this week: " The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) reports that in 1997, four out of 10 Americans underwent some sort of alternative therapy, from quaffing herbal potions to undergoing spinal manipulation. More people visited alternative medicine practitioners than all U.S. primary care physicians, and they spent an estimated $21.1 billion on alternative treatments. " >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 1999 Report Share Posted August 27, 1999 True!! Our tv is inundated with ads about how Quantera herbal products are the only " clinically proven " ones now. Quantera is owned by a large drug company. If they cant fight it they will join it and try to take over that way. There are absolutely no ethics involved in big business unless the government forces them to have some and considering that big business pretty much owns our US government that is very unlikely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2001 Report Share Posted March 4, 2001 I tried acupuncture without much success. The doc that I tried is head of the American Acupuncture Institute and it didn't really work. I wanted it to but after several months and several dollars, I felt no difference. I think that my reflexologist has make a difference with my feet. At least now I can walk! I've tried magnets too. They work while they are on but after you remove them...back to the same thing. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Have you checked out the " Alternative Therapies " section of the Arthritis Foundation's site, a R? I think it's a good place to start: http://www.arthritis.org/alttherapies/default.asp Although I can't recommend any alternative therapies that would be effective enough to replace conventional therapies for RA, I do believe that some can be added to help. I pretty much echo what Rita said a few days ago about diet. I also cut out meat, dairy, and try to stay away from sugar and feel better if I avoid those and eat wholesome foods and exercise regularly. But I think you are right: what works for one person may not work for another. I would also discuss anything you plan to do with your physicians. [ ] Alternative Therapy > Hi all, > I am very curious about alternative therapies for RA. I've been doing > some reading on how diet affects flares, I have found that it may not > be the same for everyone. one person might experience flares after > eating nightshade foods, then another it might be milk or meat > or...... I have also looked into what vitamins and minerals claim to > help with flares. I am very cautious about this because I know > some 'natural remedies' can interact with medicatons. > > I would like to here your experience, position on alternative > therepies. > > a R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2001 Report Share Posted July 11, 2001 a R, Over the last 25 years I've tried most of the supplements that claim to help, and all I've found is a lighter pocketbook. MSM is the only one that I feel I benefit from. I've gotten more results from cutting out meat, dairy, and caffeine and drinking a lot of water. I eat a lot of fish, and on the days I don't eat it, I take fish oil. I used to take handfuls of supplements, but now I concentrate on getting the nutrients from food. Many people feel they get relief from herbs and vitamins. Here are some links on interactions & toxicity. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/04/000412223759.ht m http://www.rxnews.com/HerbToxicology.html http://www.drkoop.com/drugstore/pharmacy/interactions.asp Check Drug interactions http://www.herbmed.org/ http://www.fda.gov/medwatch forum to report adverse reactions a P [ ] Alternative Therapy Hi all, I am very curious about alternative therapies for RA. I've been doing some reading on how diet affects flares, I have found that it may not be the same for everyone. one person might experience flares after eating nightshade foods, then another it might be milk or meat or...... I have also looked into what vitamins and minerals claim to help with flares. I am very cautious about this because I know some 'natural remedies' can interact with medicatons. I would like to here your experience, position on alternative therepies. a R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Try budwig for help. Works well with Day [ ] Alternative Therapy > > > > Hi, My name is , I live in Central NY and have breast cancer. > Has anyone heard of Dr. Lorraine Day? Or been helped by a mostly raw > vegetarian diet with juicing carrots and vegetables? I have been > following her method for almost two years. She has a web site if > anyone is interested: http://www.drday.com . > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Hi, .. I know Dr. Day - an energetic and lovely lady!! She did have surgery to remove the large tumor growing from her chest, and then went to the Gerson Clinic and talked at length to Charlotte Gerson, and formulated her own version of the Gerson therapy. It worked for her. Quackwatch says that Dr. Day apparently had two different tumors at different times, and that the stories get a bit mixed up from time to time. Dr. Day has videotapes - lots of religion as well as healthy food. Dr. Day spoke at the Cancer Control Society convention perhaps two years ago in Los Angeles, and Charlotte Gerson is always there and always willing to talk with people. Of interest: the Gerson lab work is all done in the USA, and Charlotte says that she has an open invitation to any medical group to come to Mexico and look at their records of the Gerson Therapy - and that no medical group or organization has ever contacted her on that offer. The Gerson treatment is very intense and definitely not fun, but seems to have results. Gerson has books on their program as well. Healings, Dave s wrote: > Hi, My name is , I live in Central NY and have breast cancer. > Has anyone heard of Dr. Lorraine Day? Or been helped by a mostly raw > vegetarian diet with juicing carrots and vegetables? I have been > following her method for almost two years. She has a web site if > anyone is interested: http://www.drday.com . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 H i , I have asked this question before and did not get an answer. The medical profession claim that there is little if any falsifiable evidence that gallstone flushes actually expel gallstones. The proof that would settle this long debated issue once and for all is a before and after ultrasound sonogram test. It has been shown that often after a flush, what people actually thought were gallstones are actually not stones at all, but gobs of oil and feces etc. Does anybody know of any irrefutable, falsifiable evidence that gallbladder flushes work? Best regards - I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, if there's no symptoms there's no stones? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 1:38 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 1:38 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi : I did the Olive oil/lemon juice flush over the weekend. And the results from flush was a moderate success. I thought that I passed what I read was gallstones. I had my second ultrsound yesterday and doctors still found multiple gallstones in my gallbladder. I guess I need to go over the Flush about 5 -6 times to get some better results from ultrasound. But it is pain taking Olive oil/lemon juice. So I'am confused if it really worked for me. But I plan to keep trying and have the surgery as the last resort. Rajesh > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help with > gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone gone > back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof positive testimonials to the alternative solution? gallstones@...: tanya7774@...: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:45:22 +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, if there's no symptoms there's no stones? _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hi Rajesh, Noone that knows anything about gallstone flushing recommends doing only one flush. That's not enough You are making gallstones. When your body removes some it makes more. You will make a lot of gallstones so you need to remove a lot of gallstones. You need to flush a lot of times to remove the amount of gallstones that you already have plus the ones you will rapidly make during your flushing. Immediatly after and during your flushing, your gallbladder will fill up with stones from your liver where they sit ready to travel to your gallbladder as soon as they are able. You need to wait 2 weeks between flushes to let your body get back in balance and up to the strength you need to do a flush. Don't give up, because you've just gotten started taking your gallbladder health into your own hands. I've done 9 flushes in order to see the amount of stones diminish to less than 50 very small bb sized stones per flush from a peak of about 400 in one flush. I've flushed over 2000 stones total. Best Regards, Vince > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help > with > > gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone gone > > back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an > > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of > though, > > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 There are several posts in the archives that the stones flushed, after lab tests, are proven to be cholesterol and bile stones. This means they are not oil and juice stones. They are identical and the very same as gall stones. There are no multimillion dollar studies to prove flushes work because no company is stupid enough to spend that much money to prove a non-profitable and non-patentable process will cheaply and safely get rid of gallstones. Best Regards, Vince > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof positive testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > gallstones@...: tanya7774@...: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:45:22 +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, if there's no symptoms there's no stones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hello, My post was not suggesting that " multi-million dollar studies " were necessary, they are not, sot eh point is moot. An gallstone sufferers before and after ultrasound sonogram would certainly prove the matter and end the debate. I would of course be very interested to read the lab findings as mentioned by Vince and will search for them. I have searched high and low on the internet for any real evidence that gallstone flushes work and have found none. Just as it may not be in the interests of the medical profession to back such procedures, it would certainly be in the interests of believers in gallstone flushing programs to confirm, validate and publicize such findings. I would of course love to discover such evidence. Best regards - There are several posts in the archives that the stones flushed, after lab tests, are proven to be cholesterol and bile stones. This means they are not oil and juice stones. They are identical and the very same as gall stones. There are no multimillion dollar studies to prove flushes work because no company is stupid enough to spend that much money to prove a non-profitable and non-patentable process will cheaply and safely get rid of gallstones. Best Regards, Vince > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof positive testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > gallstones@.-..: tanya7774@..-.: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:45:22 +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, if there's no symptoms there's no stones? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 1:38 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/08/08 1:38 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 HI Vince: Thanks for the note. Yes you are right one flush is not enough. I should have done a few more flushes before I went my second Ultrasound. But now to start with Olive oil/Lemon juice is getting harder. Any other recipes which tastes little better Very glad to know you have completed abouy 9 flushes. It is motivating for the rest Regards, Rajesh --- VR <new_man85@...> wrote: > Hi Rajesh, Noone that knows anything about gallstone > flushing > recommends doing only one flush. That's not enough > You are making > gallstones. When your body removes some it makes > more. You will make > a lot of gallstones so you need to remove a lot of > gallstones. You > need to flush a lot of times to remove the amount of > gallstones that > you already have plus the ones you will rapidly make > during your > flushing. Immediatly after and during your > flushing, your gallbladder > will fill up with stones from your liver where they > sit ready to > travel to your gallbladder as soon as they are able. > You need to wait > 2 weeks between flushes to let your body get back in > balance and up to > the strength you need to do a flush. > > Don't give up, because you've just gotten started > taking your > gallbladder health into your own hands. I've done 9 > flushes in order > to see the amount of stones diminish to less than 50 > very small bb > sized stones per flush from a peak of about 400 in > one flush. I've > flushed over 2000 stones total. > > Best Regards, > > Vince > > > > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards > alternative therapy to help > > with > > > gallstones rather then surgery, but I was > wondering, has anyone gone > > > back to the Dr. after doing the alternative > therapy and had an > > > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is > the school of > > though, > > > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 One would think that a person would volunteer to guinie pig for a scientific and credible study to prove this once and for all. If I had them, I'd volunteer (my mom just got 'em and that is why I'm trying to learn now). Don't get me wrong...I'd definately do the cleanse before I let anyone cut me up! gallstones@...: new_man85@...: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 02:07:21 +0000Subject: Re: Alternative Therapy There are several posts in the archives that the stones flushed, afterlab tests, are proven to be cholesterol and bile stones. This meansthey are not oil and juice stones. They are identical and the verysame as gall stones. There are no multimillion dollar studies toprove flushes work because no company is stupid enough to spend thatmuch money to prove a non-profitable and non-patentable process willcheaply and safely get rid of gallstones.Best Regards,Vince>> > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof positivetestimonials to the alternative solution?> > > gallstones@...: tanya7774@...: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:45:22+0000Subject: Alternative Therapy> > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to helpwith gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyonegone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had anultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though,if there's no symptoms there's no stones? _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Ok, then is there anyone who tried alternative therapy that still had to have the gallbladder removed and why do you think that was? Or how about anyone who tried the flushes where a stone got stuck and ended up needing emergency medical treatment? --- VR <new_man85@...> wrote: > There are several posts in the archives that the > stones flushed, after > lab tests, are proven to be cholesterol and bile > stones. This means > they are not oil and juice stones. They are > identical and the very > same as gall stones. There are no multimillion > dollar studies to > prove flushes work because no company is stupid > enough to spend that > much money to prove a non-profitable and > non-patentable process will > cheaply and safely get rid of gallstones. > > Best Regards, > > Vince > > > > > > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof > positive > testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > > > > gallstones@...: tanya7774@...: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 > 19:45:22 > +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative > therapy to help > with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was > wondering, has anyone > gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative > therapy and had an > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the > school of though, > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 In answer to the first paragraph, yes. They tried a bunch of alternatives and still had problems. They decided to have the organ removed. Surgery can be a life saving blessing. Cutting the organ out and throwing it away might not be the best first move. Analogy: Your car won't start. Do you rip out the starter first or do you check to see if you left the lights on? In answer to the second, while I do not know personally of anyone I suspect so. So what? What was the emergency treatment? Having their gallbladder removed? Reasoning why it would be best to go ahead and cave in to the prevailing paradigm may not be conducive to where some may want to go. There are no guarantees in " alternative " therapy. Doesn't seem like there are any in a gallbladder resection either except that you will walk out sans a gallbladder. If I have pain in my arm, do I attempt " alternatives " or just have it amputated? The archives and the present group are filled with individuals who have had gallbladder problems and have educated themselves, made changes and are leading healthy happy productive lives minus the discomfort and symptoms at the very least whether they still have stones or not (there is your proof positive) The gallbladder performs some very important functions within the human body. If you have it removed, you lose that performance forever. Any one who tells you that removing your gallbladder is of little importance is deluded to say the least. We are here to help those that would like to keep it along on the journey. Where do you see yourself? The discussion of what the green blobs are (many things are passed; some are definitely gallstones and others are up for discussion) is a very moot point. All the best, -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: 7774<mailto:tanya7774@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: Alternative Therapy Ok, then is there anyone who tried alternative therapy that still had to have the gallbladder removed and why do you think that was? Or how about anyone who tried the flushes where a stone got stuck and ended up needing emergency medical treatment? --- VR <new_man85@...<mailto:new_man85@...>> wrote: > There are several posts in the archives that the > stones flushed, after > lab tests, are proven to be cholesterol and bile > stones. This means > they are not oil and juice stones. They are > identical and the very > same as gall stones. There are no multimillion > dollar studies to > prove flushes work because no company is stupid > enough to spend that > much money to prove a non-profitable and > non-patentable process will > cheaply and safely get rid of gallstones. > > Best Regards, > > Vince > > > > > > > > Now this is a GREAT question. Where is the proof > positive > testimonials to the alternative solution? > > > > > > gallstones@...: tanya7774@...: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 > 19:45:22 > +0000Subject: Alternative Therapy > > > > > > > > > > I know most on this list lean towards alternative > therapy to help > with gallstones rather then surgery, but I was > wondering, has anyone > gone back to the Dr. after doing the alternative > therapy and had an > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the > school of though, > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > __________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping<http://to\ ols.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I found the olive oil goes down a lot easier if mixed with grapefruit juice. Same results. Amber But now to start with Olive oil/Lemon juice is getting harder. Any other recipes which tastes little better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thank you , that is one of the more lucid posts. Changing of diet and lifestyle makes gallbladder problems a life saving God send at times... As long as that is the direction that someone chooses. Lopping the organ out first with no other changes may be folly. -D ----- Original Message ----- From: Battaglia<mailto:fbattaglia@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Alternative Therapy Nearly 18 months ago I had gallbladder pain for 6 months, at times excruciating. I changed my diet - almost completely off of red meat , occasionally eat an egg and a bit of chicken, and major increase in salads, fruits and vegetables especially apple juice and apples and I have it all under control. No pain, and I have yet to try the flush- although I have a friend who has been doing a flush for years, 3 times a year, as she had high cholesterol readings but she has never had gallbladder pain and flushed major stones and her cholesterol numbers went down. I am convinced that for most people if your gallbladder is acting up it is your body's way of telling you to change your diet. I am taking supplements, A-F Beta Food , not with every meal but a couple of times a week. I have done 's liver cleanse/detox and I could really feel the difference. But for me symptoms are gone and will post once I start the flush FB On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:45 AM, wrote: > I know most on this list lean towards alternative therapy to help with > gallstones rather then surgery, but I was wondering, has anyone gone > back to the Dr. after doing the alternative therapy and had an > ultrasound show that the stones were gone, or is the school of though, > if there's no symptoms there's no stones? > > > > > Battaglia Tel 818 897 8500 Cel 818 268 5395 fbattaglia@...<mailto:fbattaglia@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Actually they are associated with the liver. the same spots that you see on the surface are also within the interior. the surface spots are the only ones you see. They are made up of the same pigment that can be a component of stones, and that pigment is hopefully filtered out by the liver. However, they get their name from the liver color. -D ----- Original Message ----- From: Porretta<mailto:lporretta@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: RE: Re: Alternative Therapy Hello, Liver spots are called such due to their color, not their attachment to the liver in any way. Best regards - I did not have ultrasounds but I can tell you about the following experience. I noticed a spot on my face and asked my dermatologist about it. He told me that it was an " age " spot (aka liver spot). I then did some liver flushes and the spot disappeared. On my next visit, I showed the doctor how the spot disappeared. He didn't comment much but didn't seem too surprised. It was kind of satisfiying to show him what I had done on my own without meds or surgery! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/09/08 10:16 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/09/08 10:16 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Well said Brad. I'm in Quality Assurance, which basically means I experiment all day long. This is what we need...undeniable proof backed an unbiased 3rd party that this works. I'm certain that it can't work 100% of the time; however, even a small percentage of success would be worth doing a flush if it means avoiding getting cut up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi Louis, group, I'd like to share my story. For years I have one calcified stone 13x22 mm found by ultrasound. I feel heaviness on the right but did not have attacks. For more than a year I was taking Gold Coin Grass tincture three times every day. It was clear that bile was going out as needed all this time, however after an year ultrasound showed that the stone was still there. I talked to the doctor at the US equipment and she said that for 15 years she had seen only one case where the calcified stone was removed - the man was a guru who used visualization and other modalities unknown to her. I do not flush for fear of stone stucking in. My mother tried flushing and ended in the ER where they removed her gallbladder. BTW she is 91 and 20 years after operation she had never had any complaints, though she did not diet at all. I do not diet also just do not overeat. Trying to keep my gallbladder. Good luck everyone, Simeon ------------------------------------- Sportingbet.com 15,000 åâðî âñÿêà ñåäìèöà â Ãà ãðà äè îò çà ëîçè Ãà Øà ìïèîÃñêà Ëèãà ! http://bg.sportingbet.com/t/index.aspx?affiliate=mailbg10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 You put all your eggs in one basket Simeon by only taking one thing (Gold Coin Grass). Usually when that happens disappointment follows. If you use various herbs and supplements at once including flushing you should be able to get stones out. GCG is meant to be taken as a prep for gb flushes not by itself. So you dont diet and you dont flush...why are you on this forum if you dont mind me asking? Brad > > > > Hi Louis, group, > > I'd like to share my story. For years I have one calcified stone > 13x22 mm found by ultrasound. I feel heaviness on the right but did > not have attacks. > > For more than a year I was taking Gold Coin Grass tincture three > times every day. It was clear that bile was going out as needed all > this time, however after an year ultrasound showed that the stone was > still there. I talked to the doctor at the US equipment and she said > that for 15 years she had seen only one case where the calcified stone > was removed - the man was a guru who used visualization and other > modalities unknown to her. > > I do not flush for fear of stone stucking in. My mother tried > flushing and ended in the ER where they removed her gallbladder. BTW > she is 91 and 20 years after operation she had never had any > complaints, though she did not diet at all. I do not diet also just do > not overeat. > > Trying to keep my gallbladder. > > Good luck everyone, > > Simeon > > ------------------------------------- > > Sportingbet.com > 15,000 åâðî âñÿêà ñåäìèöà â Ãà ãðà äè îò çà ëîçè Ãà Øà ìïèîÃñêà Ëèãà ! > http://bg.sportingbet.com/t/index.aspx?affiliate=mailbg10 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 hello everyone my wife(32 years old) was diagnosed with breast cancer 2 years back and after surgery.chemo and radiation she was on temoxifin . Now she has extensive bone metastasis.pet scan shows all other organs are safe. Her current treatment includes zoldria injection for bone strengthing. zoladex injection for ovary ablation(as she was 80 % ER/PR +ve).and taxol in chemotherapy.despite all this doctors has said she has a life of 2 to 5 years. can u people suggest any alternative treatment that can help cure her disease.Speacially if any one has used it and get cured.it will be of great help for me if u search internet for this u get so many treatments but with controversies along with it like appricot seeds.on one site its written that having appricot seeds kill cancer cells and on another site its written that its poisonous. please help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Try doing a google search on LDN. Jan From: baljeet singh <balli9000@...> Subject: [ ] Fw: alternative therapy Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 1:38 PM  hello everyone my wife(32 years old) was diagnosed with breast cancer 2 years back and after surgery.chemo and radiation she was on temoxifin . Now she has extensive bone metastasis.pet scan shows all other organs are safe. Her current treatment includes zoldria injection for bone strengthing. zoladex injection for ovary ablation(as she was 80 % ER/PR +ve).and taxol in chemotherapy. despite all this doctors has said she has a life of 2 to 5 years. can u people suggest any alternative treatment that can help cure her disease.Speacially if any one has used it and get cured.it will be of great help for me if u search internet for this u get so many treatments but with controversies along with it like appricot seeds.on one site its written that having appricot seeds kill cancer cells and on another site its written that its poisonous. please help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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