Re: Finally had my gallbladder out.

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JoAnne,

Congrats on the weight loss, that's awesome! This is

my main fear with trying a flush. That I do it and

one gets stuck causing me to need Emergency treatment.

I spoke to one acupuncturist who said she would not

work on me at this stage because it could cause a

blockage. I respected her much more then the other

two that basically said come on in, we can fix it.

--- JoAnne <Braveheartpoodle@...> wrote:

> This is my story. (The quick version)

> I lost 133 lbs. in 9 months time. I did this

> through a good diet and

> exercise.

> About 3 months ago started to have gallbladder

> attacks. (Very common

> for those that gain or lose lots of weight.)

> Used the product GallCleanse and added Flaxseed oil

> and sometimes Enova

> Olive Oil to my balsamic vinegar as dressing for my

> salad because I

> didn't want to have surgery.

> Well, Stones were flushed out of my gallbladder and

> sent down the bile

> duct to block the opening from the pancreas which

> caused me to have a

> terrible case of Pancreatitis. I was hospitalized

> for 7 days to get

> the pancreatitis under control.

> I went home after 7 days until the scheduled day of

> surgery to have my

> gallbladder removed and the bile duct checked for

> additional blockages.

>

> Stones in the gallbladder okay. Stones falling out

> of the gallbladder,

> not okay.

>

> My gallbladder is now out and it is a good thing.

> Gallbladder was full

> of sludge and NOT WORKING.

>

> Good luck everyone! Check things out and weigh your

> options.

>

>

>

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just read your email about the stones getting stuck in the bile duct,

this is why it is crucial to do colon cleanses before the cleanse and

clean the kidneys first so the stones have a clear avenue to exit and

not to get backed up, judykcleansingcoach

On Jan 17, 2008, at 9:42 AM, JoAnne wrote:

> This is my story. (The quick version)

> I lost 133 lbs. in 9 months time. I did this through a good diet and

> exercise.

> About 3 months ago started to have gallbladder attacks. (Very common

> for those that gain or lose lots of weight.)

> Used the product GallCleanse and added Flaxseed oil and sometimes

> Enova

> Olive Oil to my balsamic vinegar as dressing for my salad because I

> didn't want to have surgery.

> Well, Stones were flushed out of my gallbladder and sent down the bile

> duct to block the opening from the pancreas which caused me to have a

> terrible case of Pancreatitis. I was hospitalized for 7 days to get

> the pancreatitis under control.

> I went home after 7 days until the scheduled day of surgery to have my

> gallbladder removed and the bile duct checked for additional

> blockages.

>

> Stones in the gallbladder okay. Stones falling out of the gallbladder,

> not okay.

>

> My gallbladder is now out and it is a good thing. Gallbladder was full

> of sludge and NOT WORKING.

>

> Good luck everyone! Check things out and weigh your options.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

another way to make sure that a stone does not get stuck is to break

up the stones with gold coin for 1 month before the liver cleanse

On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:19 AM, 7774 wrote:

> JoAnne,

>

> Congrats on the weight loss, that's awesome! This is

> my main fear with trying a flush. That I do it and

> one gets stuck causing me to need Emergency treatment.

> I spoke to one acupuncturist who said she would not

> work on me at this stage because it could cause a

> blockage. I respected her much more then the other

> two that basically said come on in, we can fix it.

>

>

>

> --- JoAnne <Braveheartpoodle@...> wrote:

>

> > This is my story. (The quick version)

> > I lost 133 lbs. in 9 months time. I did this

> > through a good diet and

> > exercise.

> > About 3 months ago started to have gallbladder

> > attacks. (Very common

> > for those that gain or lose lots of weight.)

> > Used the product GallCleanse and added Flaxseed oil

> > and sometimes Enova

> > Olive Oil to my balsamic vinegar as dressing for my

> > salad because I

> > didn't want to have surgery.

> > Well, Stones were flushed out of my gallbladder and

> > sent down the bile

> > duct to block the opening from the pancreas which

> > caused me to have a

> > terrible case of Pancreatitis. I was hospitalized

> > for 7 days to get

> > the pancreatitis under control.

> > I went home after 7 days until the scheduled day of

> > surgery to have my

> > gallbladder removed and the bile duct checked for

> > additional blockages.

> >

> > Stones in the gallbladder okay. Stones falling out

> > of the gallbladder,

> > not okay.

> >

> > My gallbladder is now out and it is a good thing.

> > Gallbladder was full

> > of sludge and NOT WORKING.

> >

> > Good luck everyone! Check things out and weigh your

> > options.

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

A couple of things to keep in mind.

We don't throw the plumbing away when it gets stopped up but we also

don't throw stones down our sink either.

There are times that the organs need to be removed and times when

altering a diet is more appropriate.

I just wanted to tell my situation. The gallbladder can not ALWAYS be

saved.

If you read my story, my gallbladder wasn't working at all. Can't fix

something that doesn't work. Can't determine that it is shut down

until surgery is performed.

What works for one doesn't always work for another. We need to be

mindful that this is indeed a fact.

I am not telling people to keep it or have it out. I am just telling

my story.

good luck all.

>

> > This is my story. (The quick version)

> > I lost 133 lbs. in 9 months time. I did this through a good diet and

> > exercise.

> > About 3 months ago started to have gallbladder attacks. (Very common

[Guest guest]

How do you know your gallbladder was not working? Did your doctor tell

you that? Did your surgeon tell you that? The surgeon that stands to

make a chunk of cash from cutting out this vital organ? Don't listen

to the car salesman when you are trying to decide whether to buy a new

car or not.

" Not working " doesn't mean that it will never work. For most people,

they can get it working by changing their diet and possibly doing some

flushes. Most people need to change their diet drastically and they

are unwilling to do that. It takes some dedication and commitment to

being healthy.

When I had my GB problems, I did extensive research on the subject.

One of the things that I learned for certain is that a VERY SMALL

percentage of people actually need to have their gallbladder removed.

[Guest guest]

I will assume your correct, that very few HAVE to have

it out. My question is why does insurance readily pay

for it? They denied a request to see an ear,nose and

throat specialist due to excessive snoring, but didn't

blink an eye when they approved a surgery.

For someone like me, it's hard to justify that it's a

diet issue when it was clearly a result of pregnancy

and food has no bearning on when I have attacks.

Let's say I do these flushes and get rid of the

stones, eat well and then get pg again and the stones

return. I am then risking greater harm to myself and

my child due to problems with possible emergency

surgery or possible problems with the liver (I had a

friend who this was an issue for and they almost had

to take her son at 31 weeks had they not been able to

go in and break up the lodged stone, not good).

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I love the way you think and I agree 100%. Thanks for writing this.

Amber

How do you know your gallbladder was not working? Did your doctor tell

you that? Did your surgeon tell you that? The surgeon that stands to

make a chunk of cash from cutting out this vital organ? Don't listen

to the car salesman when you are trying to decide whether to buy a new

car or not.

" Not working " doesn't mean that it will never work. For most people,

they can get it working by changing their diet and possibly doing some

flushes. Most people need to change their diet drastically and they

are unwilling to do that. It takes some dedication and commitment to

being healthy.

When I had my GB problems, I did extensive research on the subject.

One of the things that I learned for certain is that a VERY SMALL

percentage of people actually need to have their gallbladder removed.

.

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I don't know much about the insurance business. But the snoring

probably falls into the same catagory as cosmetic surgery. They don't

care if you wake up your partner at night!

As for the pregnancy, not too knowledgable on that as I have not been

there. But I do know that pregnancy exacerbates gall bladder

problems.

A lot of people think that they have a healthy GB because they have no

pain when in fact a large percentage of Americans have silent

gallstones. Quite possibly, it is just the pregnancy that just pushed

you over the top. Can't advise you on this though.

If you eat well the stones should not return. But eating well is the

key. I thought that I ate fairly well. But after doing some extensive

research, I found out much that I did not know about diet. What I

thought was healthy was not healthy (foods with gluten, dairy, etc.).

[Guest guest]

I am not going to debate the comments on surgeons wanting money as I

don't believe that all DR are out for the money only.

As I stated before, I told my story and that is all.

I think you have to listen to your body and know what is right for you.

I think anti surgery people are as dangerous as people who believe that

surgery is always the answer. Know when it is appropriate and when it

is not.

My diet can get no better. White meat fish and poultry. Egg whites

only, no yolks. No dairy. No red meat or pork. No processed foods of

any kind. Everything I eat is prepared by me in the raw form. No

butter, no margarine, not even non stick cooking spray.

Organic Balsamic vinegar with a little flaxseed or enova OO and that is

it. Fresh fruit and veggies. TONS of veggies.

I wish everyone well.

I wish people were a little more conservative on their judgements as I

don't know of any DR's on this group nor do I know of any DR that would

diagnose over the internet via a post.

Good Luck and listen to your body.

I will be leaving the group as I don't fit the bill anymore.

thanks

>

> I love the way you think and I agree 100%. Thanks for writing this.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

> How do you know your gallbladder was not working? Did your doctor

tell

> you that? Did your surgeon tell you that? The surgeon that stands

[Guest guest]

I'll be sorry to see you go.

Amber

. I will be leaving the group as I don't fit the bill anymore.

thanks

.

[Guest guest]

I think what is severely missing in this diet is good fats, this can

cause gallstones judyk

On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:14 PM, JoAnne wrote:

> I am not going to debate the comments on surgeons wanting money as I

> don't believe that all DR are out for the money only.

> As I stated before, I told my story and that is all.

> I think you have to listen to your body and know what is right for

> you.

> I think anti surgery people are as dangerous as people who believe

> that

> surgery is always the answer. Know when it is appropriate and when it

> is not.

> My diet can get no better. White meat fish and poultry. Egg whites

> only, no yolks. No dairy. No red meat or pork. No processed foods of

> any kind. Everything I eat is prepared by me in the raw form. No

> butter, no margarine, not even non stick cooking spray.

> Organic Balsamic vinegar with a little flaxseed or enova OO and

> that is

> it. Fresh fruit and veggies. TONS of veggies.

> I wish everyone well.

> I wish people were a little more conservative on their judgements as I

> don't know of any DR's on this group nor do I know of any DR that

> would

> diagnose over the internet via a post.

> Good Luck and listen to your body.

> I will be leaving the group as I don't fit the bill anymore.

> thanks

>

>

> >

> > I love the way you think and I agree 100%. Thanks for writing this.

> >

> > Amber

> >

> >

> >

> > How do you know your gallbladder was not working? Did your doctor

> tell

> > you that? Did your surgeon tell you that? The surgeon that stands

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

She did mention Olive Oil and Flaxseed oil, how much

more good fat would she need?

--- judy kemecsei <judyk8@...> wrote:

> I think what is severely missing in this diet is

> good fats, this can

> cause gallstones judyk

> On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:14 PM, JoAnne wrote:

>

> > I am not going to debate the comments on surgeons

> wanting money as I

> > don't believe that all DR are out for the money

> only.

> > As I stated before, I told my story and that is

> all.

> > I think you have to listen to your body and know

> what is right for

> > you.

> > I think anti surgery people are as dangerous as

> people who believe

> > that

> > surgery is always the answer. Know when it is

> appropriate and when it

> > is not.

> > My diet can get no better. White meat fish and

> poultry. Egg whites

> > only, no yolks. No dairy. No red meat or pork. No

> processed foods of

> > any kind. Everything I eat is prepared by me in

> the raw form. No

> > butter, no margarine, not even non stick cooking

> spray.

> > Organic Balsamic vinegar with a little flaxseed or

> enova OO and

> > that is

> > it. Fresh fruit and veggies. TONS of veggies.

> > I wish everyone well.

> > I wish people were a little more conservative on

> their judgements as I

> > don't know of any DR's on this group nor do I know

> of any DR that

> > would

> > diagnose over the internet via a post.

> > Good Luck and listen to your body.

> > I will be leaving the group as I don't fit the

> bill anymore.

> > thanks

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I love the way you think and I agree 100%.

> Thanks for writing this.

> > >

> > > Amber

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > How do you know your gallbladder was not

> working? Did your doctor

> > tell

> > > you that? Did your surgeon tell you that? The

> surgeon that stands

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Absolutely! That is something that I was missing in my road to good

health. I just didn't know any better. Now, I consume good fats such

as coconut oil, EVOO, flax oil, etc. on a daily basis, trying to get

some with each meal.

[Guest guest]

I second this ten fold. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: judy kemecsei<mailto:judyk8@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:02 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Finally had my gallbladder out.

I think what is severely missing in this diet is good fats, this can

cause gallstones judyk

On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:14 PM, JoAnne wrote:

> I am not going to debate the comments on surgeons wanting money as I

> don't believe that all DR are out for the money only.

> As I stated before, I told my story and that is all.

> I think you have to listen to your body and know what is right for

> you.

> I think anti surgery people are as dangerous as people who believe

> that

> surgery is always the answer. Know when it is appropriate and when it

> is not.

> My diet can get no better. White meat fish and poultry. Egg whites

> only, no yolks. No dairy. No red meat or pork. No processed foods of

> any kind. Everything I eat is prepared by me in the raw form. No

> butter, no margarine, not even non stick cooking spray.

> Organic Balsamic vinegar with a little flaxseed or enova OO and

> that is

> it. Fresh fruit and veggies. TONS of veggies.

> I wish everyone well.

> I wish people were a little more conservative on their judgements as I

> don't know of any DR's on this group nor do I know of any DR that

> would

> diagnose over the internet via a post.

> Good Luck and listen to your body.

> I will be leaving the group as I don't fit the bill anymore.

> thanks

>

>

> >

> > I love the way you think and I agree 100%. Thanks for writing this.

> >

> > Amber

> >

> >

> >

> > How do you know your gallbladder was not working? Did your doctor

> tell

> > you that? Did your surgeon tell you that? The surgeon that stands

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

sorry I missed the OO symbol below

On Jan 17, 2008, at 11:05 PM, 7774 wrote:

> She did mention Olive Oil and Flaxseed oil, how much

> more good fat would she need?

>

> --- judy kemecsei <judyk8@...> wrote:

>

> > I think what is severely missing in this diet is

> > good fats, this can

> > cause gallstones judyk

> > On Jan 17, 2008, at 4:14 PM, JoAnne wrote:

> >

> > > I am not going to debate the comments on surgeons

> > wanting money as I

> > > don't believe that all DR are out for the money

> > only.

> > > As I stated before, I told my story and that is

> > all.

> > > I think you have to listen to your body and know

> > what is right for

> > > you.

> > > I think anti surgery people are as dangerous as

> > people who believe

> > > that

> > > surgery is always the answer. Know when it is

> > appropriate and when it

> > > is not.

> > > My diet can get no better. White meat fish and

> > poultry. Egg whites

> > > only, no yolks. No dairy. No red meat or pork. No

> > processed foods of

> > > any kind. Everything I eat is prepared by me in

> > the raw form. No

> > > butter, no margarine, not even non stick cooking

> > spray.

> > > Organic Balsamic vinegar with a little flaxseed or

> > enova OO and

> > > that is

> > > it. Fresh fruit and veggies. TONS of veggies.

> > > I wish everyone well.

> > > I wish people were a little more conservative on

> > their judgements as I

> > > don't know of any DR's on this group nor do I know

> > of any DR that

> > > would

> > > diagnose over the internet via a post.

> > > Good Luck and listen to your body.

> > > I will be leaving the group as I don't fit the

> > bill anymore.

> > > thanks

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I love the way you think and I agree 100%.

> > Thanks for writing this.

> > > >

> > > > Amber

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > How do you know your gallbladder was not

> > working? Did your doctor

> > > tell

> > > > you that? Did your surgeon tell you that? The

> > surgeon that stands

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for telling your story its a good one and i needed to hear something

positive hehe So thanks

JoAnne <Braveheartpoodle@...> wrote: I am not going to debate the

comments on surgeons wanting money as I

don't believe that all DR are out for the money only.

As I stated before, I told my story and that is all.

I think you have to listen to your body and know what is right for you.

I think anti surgery people are as dangerous as people who believe that

surgery is always the answer. Know when it is appropriate and when it

is not.

My diet can get no better. White meat fish and poultry. Egg whites

only, no yolks. No dairy. No red meat or pork. No processed foods of

any kind. Everything I eat is prepared by me in the raw form. No

butter, no margarine, not even non stick cooking spray.

Organic Balsamic vinegar with a little flaxseed or enova OO and that is

it. Fresh fruit and veggies. TONS of veggies.

I wish everyone well.

I wish people were a little more conservative on their judgements as I

don't know of any DR's on this group nor do I know of any DR that would

diagnose over the internet via a post.

Good Luck and listen to your body.

I will be leaving the group as I don't fit the bill anymore.

thanks

>

> I love the way you think and I agree 100%. Thanks for writing this.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

> How do you know your gallbladder was not working? Did your doctor

tell

> you that? Did your surgeon tell you that? The surgeon that stands

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[Guest guest]

Had you done s liver flush & drunk fresh

organic apple juice regularly you probably would have

had no problems.Apple juice softens the stones so no

blockages.Will help with the stones in your liver.

--- JoAnne <Braveheartpoodle@...> wrote:

> This is my story. (The quick version)

> I lost 133 lbs. in 9 months time. I did this

> through a good diet and

> exercise.

> About 3 months ago started to have gallbladder

> attacks. (Very common

> for those that gain or lose lots of weight.)

> Used the product GallCleanse and added Flaxseed oil

> and sometimes Enova

> Olive Oil to my balsamic vinegar as dressing for my

> salad because I

> didn't want to have surgery.

> Well, Stones were flushed out of my gallbladder and

> sent down the bile

> duct to block the opening from the pancreas which

> caused me to have a

> terrible case of Pancreatitis. I was hospitalized

> for 7 days to get

> the pancreatitis under control.

> I went home after 7 days until the scheduled day of

> surgery to have my

> gallbladder removed and the bile duct checked for

> additional blockages.

>

> Stones in the gallbladder okay. Stones falling out

> of the gallbladder,

> not okay.

>

> My gallbladder is now out and it is a good thing.

> Gallbladder was full

> of sludge and NOT WORKING.

>

> Good luck everyone! Check things out and weigh your

> options.

>

>

>

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