Re: :problems worsen after surgery!!

[Guest guest]

I respectfully suggest that you try digestive aids and natural antifungals

before you submit to surgery that cannot be reversed. Just because your husband

hasn't experienced a problem is no guarantee that you won't. The symptoms you

mention are very typical of fungus problems.

Amber

My husband also had his out march o6 have had no problem and has not changed

his diet and eats what ever he wants I have dealt with this for years have done

flushes I have finally given up and agreed yesterday to have galbladder removed

1-29-08 can not handle the pain, burping, belching or gas its uncontrolable and

embrassing.

.

[Guest guest]

Amber

I am new to the list and have been having minor symptoms for years without

realising (since my ectopic pregnancy 15 plus yrs ago). Then I broke my

ankle 4 years ago and was on extensive period (9mths) of pain meds and

anti-inflammatories before I had surgery for the ankle (finally found a

specialist who diagnosed the ankle problem 9th months after initial

treatment for minor break and ligament tear) and further meds after. I have

had the same symptoms with huge weight gain (27kg) which the doctors put

down to my inability to exercise fully due to ankle surgery, not my screwed

up liver and system due in part which the meds contributed to they had me

on. I have done parasite cleansing, liver cleansing etc and had been

exercising more, working fulltime and also running our horse property.

Which means I am on the run constantly but the weight kept ballooning.

Over the last 12mths I have had increasing pain in right shoulder and right

lower back which slows me down (again doctors wanted me to take more meds

for this as they thought it was due to age and joint issues). I am having

extensive periods of indigestion, gastric reflux, bloating, enlarged liver,

and gallbladder tenderness and now the pain is getting worse each attack

which are getting closer together no matter what I do. I have had nil

energy and just getting through the day is a challenge. I was also getting

crankier and crankier, depressed due to fatigue and pain which is making

other miserable as well. All symptoms, of Liver and Gallstone problems.

Finally last week my GP ordered scans after much pleading. I have a

gallbladder full of stones, fatty tissue deposits in my liver. I have had

the last two weeks (the longest period of an attack) in agony with vomiting

and bowel issues and increasing pain. I have to wait until next week to see

a surgeon (all on Summer Holidays in Australia) and possibly will have to

wait a period until I can get into surgery due to our health system.

Doing a major cleanse now is a real issue due to the vomiting which I can

only control by nausea medication (if I stop I am back to vomiting

continuously), so I am taking Brauer Elimitona which assists in a gentle

detoxification as this is all I can really tolerate even with anti nausea

meds.

Surgery is looking like my only final solution. I have researched the

surgery and also the non surgery options. Possible Post Surgery

complications and problems. But the high level and lengthening periods of

pain is pushing me to surgery ASAP.

I believe I have seen this issue from both sides. My plumbing is stuffed.

Even a plumber if they cannot fix the current system of a septic system,

will either put new plumbing and run a new system to by pass the old system

or will remove the old system. I know they cannot put a new gall bladder in

like a new plumbing system. But what else can you do if your life enjoyment

and day to day living is so poor life sucks.

Regards

Jill

-----Original Message-----

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of Amber

Sent: Friday, 18 January 2008 4:48 AM

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Subject: Re: :problems worsen after surgery!!

I respectfully suggest that you try digestive aids and natural antifungals

before you submit to surgery that cannot be reversed. Just because your

husband hasn't experienced a problem is no guarantee that you won't. The

symptoms you mention are very typical of fungus problems.

Amber

My husband also had his out march o6 have had no problem and has not changed

his diet and eats what ever he wants I have dealt with this for years have

done flushes I have finally given up and agreed yesterday to have galbladder

removed 1-29-08 can not handle the pain, burping, belching or gas its

uncontrolable and embrassing.

..

[Guest guest]

Hi

I am new to the list and have been having minor symptoms for years

without realising (since my ectopic pregnancy 15 plus yrs ago).

Then I broke my ankle 4 years ago and was on extensive period (9mths)

of pain meds and anti-inflammatories before I had surgery for the

ankle (finally found a specialist who diagnosed the ankle problem 9

months after initial treatment for minor break and ligament tear) and

further meds after.

I have had the same symptoms with huge weight gain (27kg) which the

doctors put down to my inability to exercise fully due to ankle

surgery, not my screwed up liver and system due in part which the

meds contributed to they had me on. I have done parasite cleansing,

liver cleansing etc and had been exercising more, working fulltime

and also running our horse property. Which means I am on the run

constantly but the weight kept ballooning. Over the last 12mths I

have had increasing pain in right shoulder and right lower back which

slows me down (again doctors wanted me to take more meds for this as

they thought it was due to age and joint issues). I am having

extensive periods of indigestion, gastric reflux, bloating, enlarged

liver, and gallbladder tenderness and now the pain is getting worse

each attack which are getting closer together no matter what I do. I

have had nil energy and just getting through the day is a challenge.

I was also getting crankier and crankier, depressed due to fatigue

and pain which is making other miserable as well. All symptoms, of

Liver and Gallstone problems. Finally last week my GP ordered scans

after much pleading. I have a gallbladder full of stones, fatty

tissue deposits in my liver. I have had the last two weeks (the

longest period of an attack) in agony with vomiting and bowel issues

and increasing pain. I have to wait until next week to see a surgeon

(all on Summer Holidays in Australia) and possibly will have to wait

a period until I can get into surgery due to our health system.

Doing a major cleanse now is a real issue due to the vomiting which I

can only control by nausea medication (if I stop I am back to

vomiting continuously), so I am taking Brauer Elimitona which assists

in a gentle detoxification as this is all I can really tolerate even

with anti nausea meds.

Surgery is looking like my only final solution. I have researched

the surgery and also the non surgery options. Possible Post Surgery

complications and problems. But the high level and lengthening

periods of pain is pushing me to surgery ASAP.

I believe I have seen this issue from both sides. My plumbing is

stuffed. Even a plumber if they cannot fix the current system of a

septic system, will either put new plumbing and run a new system to

by pass the old system or will remove the old system. I know they

cannot put a new gall bladder in like a new plumbing system. But

what else can you do if your life enjoyment and day to day living is

so poor life sucks.

Regards

Jill

>

> I respectfully suggest that you try digestive aids and natural

antifungals before you submit to surgery that cannot be reversed.

Just because your husband hasn't experienced a problem is no

guarantee that you won't. The symptoms you mention are very typical

of fungus problems.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

> My husband also had his out march o6 have had no problem and has

not changed his diet and eats what ever he wants I have dealt with

this for years have done flushes I have finally given up and agreed

yesterday to have galbladder removed 1-29-08 can not handle the pain,

burping, belching or gas its uncontrolable and embrassing.

>

>

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jill, from your current symptoms it sounds like a near emergency

situation. Make sure you watch for yellowing of the skin. I would

presume there are ER surgons avaliable if needed? Good luck.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

> I am new to the list and have been having minor symptoms for years

without

> realising (since my ectopic pregnancy 15 plus yrs ago). Then I

broke my

> ankle 4 years ago and was on extensive period (9mths) of pain meds

and

> anti-inflammatories before I had surgery for the ankle (finally

found a

> specialist who diagnosed the ankle problem 9th months after initial

> treatment for minor break and ligament tear) and further meds

after. I have

> had the same symptoms with huge weight gain (27kg) which the

doctors put

> down to my inability to exercise fully due to ankle surgery, not

my screwed

> up liver and system due in part which the meds contributed to

they had me

> on. I have done parasite cleansing, liver cleansing etc and had

been

> exercising more, working fulltime and also running our horse

property.

> Which means I am on the run constantly but the weight kept

ballooning.

> Over the last 12mths I have had increasing pain in right shoulder

and right

> lower back which slows me down (again doctors wanted me to take

more meds

> for this as they thought it was due to age and joint issues). I

am having

> extensive periods of indigestion, gastric reflux, bloating,

enlarged liver,

> and gallbladder tenderness and now the pain is getting worse each

attack

> which are getting closer together no matter what I do. I have had

nil

> energy and just getting through the day is a challenge. I was

also getting

> crankier and crankier, depressed due to fatigue and pain which is

making

> other miserable as well. All symptoms, of Liver and Gallstone

problems.

> Finally last week my GP ordered scans after much pleading. I

have a

> gallbladder full of stones, fatty tissue deposits in my liver. I

have had

> the last two weeks (the longest period of an attack) in agony with

vomiting

> and bowel issues and increasing pain. I have to wait until next

week to see

> a surgeon (all on Summer Holidays in Australia) and possibly will

have to

> wait a period until I can get into surgery due to our health

system.

>

>

>

> Doing a major cleanse now is a real issue due to the vomiting

which I can

> only control by nausea medication (if I stop I am back to vomiting

> continuously), so I am taking Brauer Elimitona which assists in a

gentle

> detoxification as this is all I can really tolerate even with anti

nausea

> meds.

>

>

>

> Surgery is looking like my only final solution. I have researched

the

> surgery and also the non surgery options. Possible Post Surgery

> complications and problems. But the high level and lengthening

periods of

> pain is pushing me to surgery ASAP.

>

>

>

> I believe I have seen this issue from both sides. My plumbing is

stuffed.

> Even a plumber if they cannot fix the current system of a septic

system,

> will either put new plumbing and run a new system to by pass the

old system

> or will remove the old system. I know they cannot put a new gall

bladder in

> like a new plumbing system. But what else can you do if your life

enjoyment

> and day to day living is so poor life sucks.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Jill

>