Gall Bladder

May 13, 1999

J. Swilley wrote:

> From: " J. Swilley " <ljswilley@...>

>

> I've been on Flagyl 500mg three times a day for about 6 weeks and I

> can't

> tell any difference. I'm not even sure what change would be. I can't

>

> walk very well and I cough all the time. I have Babesia and Lyme and

> a

> positive Tuleremia and I don't really know which causes what or which

> Flagyl works on. I have lots of other problems but those top the

> list.

>

I think mepron is best for babesia... josh

>

> On Wed, 12 May 1999 16:50:25 -0400 joebur <joebur@...> writes:

> >From: joebur <joebur@...>

> >

> > How are people doing with flagyl?

> >

> > I have c-diff and have been on flagyl about a week. I do not

> >feel better.... I was hoping

> >for a cure .........

> >

> > Looking forward to your replies....josh

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May 24, 2001

Stacey,

Sorry to hear that you have to have another surgery. I'm

not sure what to tell you about

managing the pain. Please call your doctor and see what

he advises. You surely

shouldn't have to live in this horrible pain until you get

the surgery done. Here's a few

links about both the laparascopic and traditional gall

bladder removal surgeries.

Laparoscopic Cholecystectomy from the National Institutes of

Health

http://odp.od.nih.gov/consensus/cons/090/090_statement.htm

Laparoscopy Cholecystectomy

Bolton, MD, presents a pictorial tutorial of the

process.

A cholecystectomy is the surgical removal of the

gallbladder.

http://www.yourhealth.com/ahl/2154.html

UW CVES LAPAROSCOPIC CHOLECYSTECTOMY

http://depts.washington.edu/cves/lapchol.html

Hope this helps.

a

-----Original Message-----

From: Stacey T [mailto:StaceyT@...]

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:50 PM

Subject: [ ] Gall bladder

Hi everyone, it has been a while since I have written. I

have just gotten really busy with work and stuff. I just

found out that I am going to have to have my gallbladder out

asap. I know, I just recuperate from Carpal Tunnel Release

and now this.

If it isn't one thing, its another...

I have been in excruciating pain since Sunday and got in

to see my Dr yesterday. I had blood drawn yesterday

afternoon and by 7:30 am this morning my doctor was already

trying to get a hold of me. My liver tests were very high.

She sent me for an ultrasound this morning and called me 2

hours later and said it was my gall bladder.

Now I just have to wait for her referral to a surgeon to

go through, which she said could take a couple of weeks.

Now if I can just withstand this pain until then... She

said to eat a lot of small meals rather than anything big,

and to stick with non fat.

Does anyone have any other suggestions on how to handle

the pain until I have surgery?

Also, has anyone had this surgery and how was it? I am

not sure which I will be having, the Laproscopic or the

traditional. I am assuming that since I am overweight that

I may not be a candidate for the Laproscopic method?

Thank you so much!!

Take care,

Stacey

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May 24, 2001

Stacey,

Sorry to hear about your latest challenge - your misbehaving gallbladder!

a sent you some excellent links. I agree with her; you can't possibly be

expected to be in pain for a few weeks while you wait for the surgery.

Please contact your doctor and tell her just how severe your pain is and ask

for help.

Here is a link that talks about gallbladder problems in an emergency room

setting. It does mention some drugs that can help:

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic98.htm

Good luck. I hope you either get a earlier surgery date or some medication

that can help make you comfortable.

----- Original Message -----

From: " Stacey T " <StaceyT@...>

< >

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:50 PM

Subject: [ ] Gall bladder

> Hi everyone, it has been a while since I have written. I have just

gotten really busy with work and stuff. I just found out that I am going to

have to have my gallbladder out asap. I know, I just recuperate from Carpal

Tunnel Release and now this.

> If it isn't one thing, its another...

>

> I have been in excruciating pain since Sunday and got in to see my Dr

yesterday. I had blood drawn yesterday afternoon and by 7:30 am this

morning my doctor was already trying to get a hold of me. My liver tests

were very high. She sent me for an ultrasound this morning and called me 2

hours later and said it was my gall bladder.

>

> Now I just have to wait for her referral to a surgeon to go through, which

she said could take a couple of weeks. Now if I can just withstand this

pain until then... She said to eat a lot of small meals rather than

anything big, and to stick with non fat.

>

> Does anyone have any other suggestions on how to handle the pain until I

have surgery?

>

> Also, has anyone had this surgery and how was it? I am not sure which I

will be having, the Laproscopic or the traditional. I am assuming that

since I am overweight that I may not be a candidate for the Laproscopic

method?

>

> Thank you so much!!

>

> Take care,

>

> Stacey

May 27, 2001

Thanks a! These links are great! I called my doctor because the pain got

so bad. But all they did was prescribe some pain. I finally got a call from

the surgeon I was referred to and they can see me for the consultation on

Friday. I guess if the pain gets too unbearable I will just have to go to the

ER.

Thank you again for the links!

Stacey

-----Original Message-----

From: " a " <paula54@...>

Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:40:42 -0400

< >

Subject: RE: [ ] Gall bladder

> <html><body>

> <tt>

>

> Stacey,

> Sorry to hear that you have to have another surgery. I'm

> not sure what to tell you about

> managing the pain. Please call your doctor and see what

> he advises. You surely

> shouldn't have to live in this horrible pain until you get

> the surgery done. Here's a few

> links about both the laparascopic and traditional gall

> bladder removal surgeries.

>

> Laparoscopic Cholecystectomy from the National Institutes of

> Health

> <a

href= " http://odp.od.nih.gov/consensus/cons/090/090_statement.htm " >http://odp.od.\

nih.gov/consensus/cons/090/090_statement.htm</a>

>

> Laparoscopy Cholecystectomy

> Bolton, MD, presents a pictorial tutorial of the

> process.

>

> A cholecystectomy is the surgical removal of the

> gallbladder.

> <a

href= " http://www.yourhealth.com/ahl/2154.html " >http://www.yourhealth.com/ahl/215\

4.html</a>

> UW CVES LAPAROSCOPIC CHOLECYSTECTOMY

>

> <a

href= " http://depts.washington.edu/cves/lapchol.html " >http://depts.washington.edu\

/cves/lapchol.html</a>

>

> Hope this helps.

> a

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Stacey T [mailto:StaceyT@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:50 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] Gall bladder

>

> Hi everyone, it has been a while since I have written. I

> have just gotten really busy with work and stuff. I just

> found out that I am going to have to have my gallbladder out

> asap. I know, I just recuperate from Carpal Tunnel Release

> and now this.

> If it isn't one thing, its another...

>

> I have been in excruciating pain since Sunday and got in

> to see my Dr yesterday. I had blood drawn yesterday

> afternoon and by 7:30 am this morning my doctor was already

> trying to get a hold of me. My liver tests were very high.

> She sent me for an ultrasound this morning and called me 2

> hours later and said it was my gall bladder.

>

> Now I just have to wait for her referral to a surgeon to

> go through, which she said could take a couple of weeks.

> Now if I can just withstand this pain until then... She

> said to eat a lot of small meals rather than anything big,

> and to stick with non fat.

>

> Does anyone have any other suggestions on how to handle

> the pain until I have surgery?

>

> Also, has anyone had this surgery and how was it? I am

> not sure which I will be having, the Laproscopic or the

> traditional. I am assuming that since I am overweight that

> I may not be a candidate for the Laproscopic method?

>

> Thank you so much!!

>

> Take care,

>

> Stacey

>

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May 27, 2001

Thanks ! I did call my dr but they still couldn't see me any earlier for

the consultation. They gave me a prescription for Darvocet though. Don't know

how that will work. On the plus side, I have lost about 8 pounds in the last

week... :-) All I can really eat to keep the pain as little as possible is

Cream of Wheat.

-----Original Message-----

From: " Matsumura " <Matsumura_Clan@...>

Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 00:35:36 -0500

< >

Subject: Re: [ ] Gall bladder

> <html><body>

> <tt>

> Stacey,

>

> Sorry to hear about your latest challenge - your misbehaving gallbladder!

> a sent you some excellent links. I agree with her; you can't possibly

be

> expected to be in pain for a few weeks while you wait for the surgery.

>

> Please contact your doctor and tell her just how severe your pain is and

ask

> for help.

>

> Here is a link that talks about gallbladder problems in an emergency room

> setting. It does mention some drugs that can help:

>

> <a

href= " http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic98.htm " >http://www.emedicine.com/emerg\

/topic98.htm</a>

>

> Good luck. I hope you either get a earlier surgery date or some medication

> that can help make you comfortable.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Stacey T " <StaceyT@...>

> < >

> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:50 PM

> Subject: [ ] Gall bladder

>

> > Hi everyone, it has been a while since I have written. I have just

> gotten really busy with work and stuff. I just found out that I am going

to

> have to have my gallbladder out asap. I know, I just recuperate from

Carpal

> Tunnel Release and now this.

> > If it isn't one thing, its another...

> >

> > I have been in excruciating pain since Sunday and got in to see my Dr

> yesterday. I had blood drawn yesterday afternoon and by 7:30 am this

> morning my doctor was already trying to get a hold of me. My liver tests

> were very high. She sent me for an ultrasound this morning and called me

2

> hours later and said it was my gall bladder.

> >

> > Now I just have to wait for her referral to a surgeon to go through,

which

> she said could take a couple of weeks. Now if I can just withstand this

> pain until then... She said to eat a lot of small meals rather than

> anything big, and to stick with non fat.

> >

> > Does anyone have any other suggestions on how to handle the pain until I

> have surgery?

> >

> > Also, has anyone had this surgery and how was it? I am not sure which

I

> will be having, the Laproscopic or the traditional. I am assuming that

> since I am overweight that I may not be a candidate for the Laproscopic

> method?

> >

> > Thank you so much!!

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Stacey

>

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May 27, 2001

You're welcome, Stacey, and good luck! Hope you feel well enough to eat

something more than cream of wheat soon. Don't go crazy with the weight

loss. We already have Me Mom to worry about in that department.

----- Original Message -----

From: " Stacey T " <StaceyT@...>

< >

Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 8:31 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Gall bladder

> Thanks ! I did call my dr but they still couldn't see me any earlier

for the consultation. They gave me a prescription for Darvocet though.

Don't know how that will work. On the plus side, I have lost about 8

pounds in the last week... :-) All I can really eat to keep the pain as

little as possible is Cream of Wheat.

May 27, 2001

You're welcome . I'm glad they helped. Good luck with

the consultation!

a

-----Original Message-----

From: Stacey T [mailto:StaceyT@...]

Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:22 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Gall bladder

Thanks a! These links are great! I called my doctor

because the pain got so bad. But all they did was prescribe

some pain. I finally got a call from the surgeon I was

referred to and they can see me for the consultation on

Friday. I guess if the pain gets too unbearable I will just

have to go to the ER.

Thank you again for the links!

Stacey

May 29, 2001

Amen to that . Stacey it is no funny not being able to eat.

Me Mom

----------

> From: Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...>

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Gall bladder

> Date: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:55 PM

>

> You're welcome, Stacey, and good luck! Hope you feel well enough to eat

> something more than cream of wheat soon. Don't go crazy with the weight

> loss. We already have Me Mom to worry about in that department.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Stacey T " <StaceyT@...>

> < >

> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 8:31 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Gall bladder

>

> > Thanks ! I did call my dr but they still couldn't see me any

earlier

> for the consultation. They gave me a prescription for Darvocet though.

> Don't know how that will work. On the plus side, I have lost about 8

> pounds in the last week... :-) All I can really eat to keep the pain as

> little as possible is Cream of Wheat.

>

May 28, 2005

Dear from WI,

Hi there. I was born and raised in Wisconsin! My parents and some

of my siblings still live there. Now I live in Calgary, Alberta,

Canada.

The pain in the pit of your stomach between your lower ribs isn't

near your gall bladder, which is located near the large part of the

liver towards your right side. Since the pain is located in your

stomach I would say it is caused by candida overgrowing in your

stomach which also causes bloating and gas, esp. since you got it

after eating avocado. Avocado is high in carbs and should be eaten

in small amounts, if any. Pain does radiate to the back from the

stomach.

You will do better on the strict candida diet, mostly meats

and " good " fats, with low carbs. My stomach was my weakest spot when

I had candida, and it was imperative that I eat very very low carbs.

Doublecheck the list of veggies that are high in carbs and eat plenty

of meat or eggs. For my height of 5'6 " I need 68 grams of protein

per day with 54 grams of carbs and 170-238 grams of good fat,

according to the Optimal Diet proportions.

Sometimes taking nystatin when your stomach hurts helps; you can even

take less more often. But I took nystatin powder and it is more

versatile and can be regulated better.

There is no need to rotate antifungals my friend. I know how many

others say it is necessary, but it isn't at all, and can often cost

more money and be difficult to monitor. I took nystatin powder the

entire 2 1/2 years when I cured my candida. IMO Oil of Oregano

and raw garlic are better than GSE. Coconut oil is very important as

an antifungal as well and is very important for health!

Bee

> What do you know about the gall bladder. I have been having a lot

> of pain in my abdomen in the pit of my stomach between my lower

ribs > it does radiate to my back. A little bloating and gassy too.

I > actually had been feeling quite a bit better on the no grains

> candida diet and rotating anti-fungals like nystatin pills, gse,

pau > d'arco etc.

May 28, 2005

On May 27, 2005, at 11:11 PM, helpmeearlfschles wrote:

>

> What do you know about the gall bladder. I have been having a lot

> of pain in my abdomen in the pit of my stomach between my lower ribs

> it does radiate to my back. A little bloating and gassy too.

>

This pain, in the front middle of the stomach, just below the ribs, is

one of my symptoms also. It is the worst part of my situation, and gets

so painful sometimes that I almost can't stay standing, and is even

sensitive if you lightly touch the skin. The stomach becomes distended

and bulges out and feels very tight and swollen. Sometimes this

accompanied by reflux, sometimes not. I have other symptoms of candida

as well. I have had every kind of test, gall bladder was fine and no

sign of any major problem, the doctor just says " I don't know " and then

I get the bill. When I found out about candida (no thanks to my doctor)

I cut out all carbs, dairy, etc, and started taking lots of coconut

oil, caprylic acid, oil of oregano, gse, pau d'arco, garlic, ten days

ago. I started feeling better, but after three days I had a " relapse " I

think this might have been " die-off " because now I feel great, and I

feel like, maybe I am getting this thing under control. Also I have

lost 8 lbs, so thats good too.

-Moon

May 28, 2005

Moon wrote:

> I cut out all carbs, dairy, etc, and started taking lots of coconut

> oil, caprylic acid, oil of oregano, gse, pau d'arco, garlic, ten days

> ago. I started feeling better, but after three days I had a " relapse "

I > think this might have been " die-off " because now I feel great, and

I > feel like, maybe I am getting this thing under control. Also I have

> lost 8 lbs, so thats good too.

Dear Moon,

Way to go! But please know that carbs include any foods are not

considered protein or fats, so that includes fruits, veggies, grains,

etc. You are taking a lot of things that kill off candida (possibly

too much), so it may be time to also take probiotics, i.e. cabbage

rejuvelac or non-dairy based acidophilus. They might also help your

stomach problem.

It sounds like you might have a hiatus hernia, which I have as well.

It is where part of the stomach pushes up between the esophagus and the

diaphram, causing the valve to the esophagus to open. That causes

lumps in the area you described and also acid reflux. I can manually

push mine in place by massaging downward around the ribs on each side

of the breast bone. If that is the case you need to be careful about

not lifting wrong and bending over from the waist - always bend your

knees.

I used to get attacks whenever I moved from one home to another. A

naturopath finally diagnosed it correctly. He also did accupressure

treatments which put it in place. Unfortunately that area was weakened

by candida which I had for over 25 years before curing it, so it

doesn't stay in place. Also you could elevate the foot of your bed by

about 5 inches with wood blocks. If you are sick in the night use

pillows to prop up the top part of your body.

The best in health,

Bee

May 28, 2005

On May 28, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Bee Wilder wrote:

>

> It sounds like you might have a hiatus hernia, which I have as well.

> It is where part of the stomach pushes up between the esophagus and

> the

> diaphram, causing the valve to the esophagus to open. That causes

> lumps in the area you described and also acid reflux. I can manually

> push mine in place by massaging downward around the ribs on each side

> of the breast bone. If that is the case you need to be careful about

> not lifting wrong and bending over from the waist - always bend your

> knees.

>

Thanks, Bee. I have checked into the hiatus hernia, which was my first

fear when this whole thing started. According to my doctor, whose

opinion I will take with a grain of salt, I do not have this, but do

have a slight separation between the left and right outer muscles in

the front of my abdomen, a condition usually only seen in pregnant

women or premature babies, and in the case of the premature babies it

supposedly goes away. (I forget the clinical name for this right now) I

was 4 weeks premature so maybe its true and it never went away? I don't

know. I'm a 43 year old male, and I never had a problem with this until

about 3 years ago. Other sypmtoms have been with me since I was a teen

on antibiotics for acne. My doctor told me the stomach separation thing

was nothing to worry about and that doing ab excercises would help, but

I am wary, and when pushed further he bacame evasive.

Any way, the diet and antifungals seem to be doing the trick. Losing 8

pounds in under two weeks has been a nice fringe benefit, and my energy

level is way up.

-Moon

May 29, 2005

Dear Moon,

I'm so glad you've lost weight and are doing well on the diet. You're

on the right track! It's onward and upward.

Bee

February 14, 2008

I just got back from having my consultation with the surgeon. Not a good

conversation. He informed me that if the gall bladder is producing stones it

is sick and should be removed. He didn't want to listen as to whether or not

the antibiotic I was taking upset my liver. He didn't look at my ultrasound he

just read the report of multiple stones. Ahhh it is frustrating.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:40 PM

Subject: Gall Bladder

I just got back from having my consultation with the surgeon. Not a good

conversation. He informed me that if the gall bladder is producing stones it is

sick and should be removed. He didn't want to listen as to whether or not the

antibiotic I was taking upset my liver. He didn't look at my ultrasound he just

read the report of multiple stones. Ahhh it is frustrating.

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>

> Bee,

>

> My gall bladder was removed 38 years ago, I had gall stones. The

> supplements that are suppose to stimulate something that I don't

have, what will happen?

==>What supplements are you referring to?

> Also, where can I go to find more about retracing? 20 years ago, I

had severe anxiety that led to more problems and I can't revisit

those days again.

==>I've been told that by many people, and yet they want to be

healthy, so they do " go through it " and " retrace " previous symptoms,

and anxiety, because it is the only way to completely heal. Re-

experiencing something isn't the same as when you went through it the

first time either; it's more like " a copy it it. "

> I am going to the health food store tomorrow to buy supplements and

> trying to understand if the prescribed supplements are for

everyone, reguardless of their body.

==>Yes, all of the supplements are for everyone, since they work

together with the diet to provide all of the nutrients the body needs

in order to heal itself. Every human body requires exactly the same

set of nutrients in order to heal and maintain health, which is

according to Dr. Weston A. Price's research and book " Nutrition and

Physical Degeneration " - you can buy a copy of it through my website

at Wilderness Family Naturals (see the ad at the bottom of every

page).

The best in health, Bee

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