Re: How do I operate this machinery?

[Guest guest]

I certainly agree with that statement. I've only had one attack. Was in ER and

the hospital, many tests, refused surgery. Came home and started studying. I

did 3 flushes, passed a jillion stones, stopped eating meat and eggs (I can

handle eggs in baked custard), and started taking A-F Betafood tablets. If I

get any twinges in the GB area, I take some extra A-F and have been doing very

well for close to 2 years now.

Amber

The thing I like about having a

poor gallbladder is that it has taught me to take care myself. Anyone

having some success?

.

[Guest guest]

>Hi Amber, I think cholesteral seems to set off my attacks.

Genetically, I may have too much produced from my liver and I know I

ate too much food with it in it. Have you checked into this for your

case? Wish you good eating and a healthy lifestyle, Mike t.

> I certainly agree with that statement. I've only had one attack.

Was in ER and the hospital, many tests, refused surgery. Came home

and started studying. I did 3 flushes, passed a jillion stones,

stopped eating meat and eggs (I can handle eggs in baked custard),

and started taking A-F Betafood tablets. If I get any twinges in the

GB area, I take some extra A-F and have been doing very well for

close to 2 years now.

>

> Amber

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> The thing I like about having a

> poor gallbladder is that it has taught me to take care myself.

Anyone

> having some success?

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[Guest guest]

I have checked into cholesterol issues solely with connection to heart problems,

not GB problems. I have Tachycardia. However, I have learned that cholesterol

is not the problem in heart issues. Homecysteine is. Our bodies make

cholesterol and we cannot live without it. If we do not eat enough foods

containing it, our bodies will make more to compensate. Therefore I think

people who limit eggs (yolks) are defeating the purpose. Eggs should be a part

of a healthy diet. I find I can eat organic eggs (since my GB problem),

however, I can't eat them hard boiled. I get a little queasy afterwards. I can

consume them in baked custard and do, often. My total cholesterol is in the 300

range, however, my HDL is so good that my ratio is good. Therefore, I don't

even bother with cholesterol tests any more since my homocysteine level is

excellent. I hope this is of some help to you.

Amber

>Hi Amber, I think cholesteral seems to set off my attacks.

Genetically, I may have too much produced from my liver and I know I

ate too much food with it in it. Have you checked into this for your

case? Wish you good eating and a healthy lifestyle, Mike t.

.

[Guest guest]

Wow....does citrus contribute to gallstones?...I eat nothing but fruit for

breakfast......for the last 16 years.

<writetothepoint1960@...> wrote: I believe in

using the best tools for the job. If that means

conventional/unconventional, it doesn't matter to me. I like to try to

find something workable and healthy. I am trying to use food as a way

to breakdown my gallstones. Any ideas? I don't eat citrus, or meat,

excess fat, or processed sugars or much of anything that will add to

my 'stone' problem. I use water and keep a healthy diet with lots of

fruit and veggies. I am working on my stomache muscles because I think

posture and poor fitness doesn't help. The thing I like about having a

poor gallbladder is that it has taught me to take care myself. Anyone

having some success?

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[Guest guest]

The opposite. the citric acids help to keep the cholesterol dissolved and in

suspension. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Gallassero<mailto:gallassero@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:31 AM

Subject: Re: How do I operate this machinery?

Wow....does citrus contribute to gallstones?...I eat nothing but fruit for

breakfast......for the last 16 years.

<writetothepoint1960@...<mailto:writetothepoint1960@...>> wrote: I

believe in using the best tools for the job. If that means

conventional/unconventional, it doesn't matter to me. I like to try to

find something workable and healthy. I am trying to use food as a way

to breakdown my gallstones. Any ideas? I don't eat citrus, or meat,

excess fat, or processed sugars or much of anything that will add to

my 'stone' problem. I use water and keep a healthy diet with lots of

fruit and veggies. I am working on my stomache muscles because I think

posture and poor fitness doesn't help. The thing I like about having a

poor gallbladder is that it has taught me to take care myself. Anyone

having some success?

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dave: I maintain moderate amounts of citric acid. It is used as a

preservative in most foods. And I like fruit, but I don;t eat lots of citrus

fruits. It seems to add to the triggering of a gallstone attack I use to eat

lots of citrus fruits, but found when I cut back, I cut back on pain from my

stones. Larger amounts of fats seem to trigger gallstone pain in me. I stick

to lower amounts by cutting back on meat products, dairy products and replacing

with olive oil in salade dressings. I try not to cook with olive oil, but will

have some in food like pasta sauce. I am trying out different combinations of

food. I believe I may be able to find a way to reduce pain and eliminate stones

by using food, expercise and sleep. What do you think? The main thing for me

is to watch my intake of cholesterol. I try to eat very little. I know I

produce lots of it. My old eating habits may have caused my problem. I am

seeing if a healthier way can solve it. Mike t.

Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote: The opposite. the

citric acids help to keep the cholesterol dissolved and in suspension. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: Gallassero<mailto:gallassero@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:31 AM

Subject: Re: How do I operate this machinery?

Wow....does citrus contribute to gallstones?...I eat nothing but fruit for

breakfast......for the last 16 years.

<writetothepoint1960@...<mailto:writetothepoint1960@...>> wrote: I

believe in using the best tools for the job. If that means

conventional/unconventional, it doesn't matter to me. I like to try to

find something workable and healthy. I am trying to use food as a way

to breakdown my gallstones. Any ideas? I don't eat citrus, or meat,

excess fat, or processed sugars or much of anything that will add to

my 'stone' problem. I use water and keep a healthy diet with lots of

fruit and veggies. I am working on my stomache muscles because I think

posture and poor fitness doesn't help. The thing I like about having a

poor gallbladder is that it has taught me to take care myself. Anyone

having some success?

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Citric acids are similar to, and building blocks for, bile acids. They

stimulate the production of and the movement of bile. This is the reason that

they can stimulate contraction of the gallbladder as well as why large

quantities of either lemon juice or grapefruit juice are used in most cleanses.

Dietary cholesterol has little to do with serum cholesterol however the sources

of dietary cholesterol for most people in our culture tend to be very unhealthy

sources of fats. A proper amount of quality fats is essential to the production

of and movement of bile and therefore for proper gallbladder health. It is a

bit of a catch 22 in regards to gallbladder problems in that they can engage the

contraction of the gallbladder and therefore stimulate an " attack' so care must

be taken, but their consumption is essential.

Cholesterol is essential for the cell membrane of every cell as well as the

production of all hormones. It is not evil but necessary. Serum cholesterol

has to do with both the production and filtering of cholesterol which the liver

is responsible for both. When filtered out, the liver eliminates it through the

bile so it is therefore a major component of bile. Gallstones form when the

different constituents of bile become out of balance. Bile is both lipid and

aqueous in nature. The main constituents are water, cholesterol, bile salts

which are made of bile acids bonded to a mineral, lecithin, and bilirubin which

is pigment from dead red blood cells. Lecithin is an emulsifier which means

that it has both a hydrolyphic and lipolyphic end being able to bond to oils or

water. Oil and water do not mix unless an emulsifier is present (mayonnaise:

oil, water, and egg yolk. Egg yolks are very high in lecithin. Wa la, you have

a congealed homogenous mass.). The gallbladder both stores a portion of bile

and extracts fluids from the bile in order to concentrate it in order to

emulsify fats for the digestion process. Gall stones form when the balance of

oils, water, lecithin, and bile acids are out of balance for one reason or

another.

To save one's gallbladder requires the production and movement of bile or

stagnation continues. This is the dance that we must do. And even if you do

not have gallbladder problems, the free flow of the above is essential or you

will develop problems. -D

----- Original Message -----

From: mike taylor<mailto:writetothepoint1960@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:04 AM

Subject: Re: How do I operate this machinery?

Hi Dave: I maintain moderate amounts of citric acid. It is used as a

preservative in most foods. And I like fruit, but I don;t eat lots of citrus

fruits. It seems to add to the triggering of a gallstone attack I use to eat

lots of citrus fruits, but found when I cut back, I cut back on pain from my

stones. Larger amounts of fats seem to trigger gallstone pain in me. I stick to

lower amounts by cutting back on meat products, dairy products and replacing

with olive oil in salade dressings. I try not to cook with olive oil, but will

have some in food like pasta sauce. I am trying out different combinations of

food. I believe I may be able to find a way to reduce pain and eliminate stones

by using food, expercise and sleep. What do you think? The main thing for me is

to watch my intake of cholesterol. I try to eat very little. I know I produce

lots of it. My old eating habits may have caused my problem. I am seeing if a

healthier way can solve it. Mike t.

Dave Shelden

<wholehealthawareness@...<mailto:wholehealthawareness@...>> wrote: The

opposite. the citric acids help to keep the cholesterol dissolved and in

suspension. -D

----- Original Message -----

From:

Gallassero<mailto:gallassero@...<mailto:gallassero@...>>

To:

gallstones <mailto:gallstones ><mailto:gallstones@\

<mailto:gallstones >>

Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:31 AM

Subject: Re: How do I operate this machinery?

Wow....does citrus contribute to gallstones?...I eat nothing but fruit for

breakfast......for the last 16 years.

<writetothepoint1960@...<mailto:writetothepoint1960@...><mailto:writ\

etothepoint1960@...<mailto:writetothepoint1960@...>>> wrote: I

believe in using the best tools for the job. If that means

conventional/unconventional, it doesn't matter to me. I like to try to

find something workable and healthy. I am trying to use food as a way

to breakdown my gallstones. Any ideas? I don't eat citrus, or meat,

excess fat, or processed sugars or much of anything that will add to

my 'stone' problem. I use water and keep a healthy diet with lots of

fruit and veggies. I am working on my stomache muscles because I think

posture and poor fitness doesn't help. The thing I like about having a

poor gallbladder is that it has taught me to take care myself. Anyone

having some success?

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