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Seems like you have every right to rant and you need to let off some steam.

Please see if your Dr. will prescribe some antifungals for you, e.g. Nystatin,

Diflucan, etc. If not, get some natural antifungals from a health food store:

OregeMax (oregano oil capsules), Garlic capsules, Caprylic acid, olive leaf

extract, or just drink some apple cider vinegar in water. According to what

Doug Kaufmann has been researching (for 37 years) and reports from the Mayo

Clinic and others, most health problems stem from fungus in the body. It

certainly won't hurt to try this. You can get more info from his website:

www.knowthecause.com.

Amber

As an aside, I have been researching different kinds of arthritis for a

while, and it just occurred to me today that I might actually have

rheumatoid arthritis. ... I'm going to go

to the doctor soon to get a diagnosis so I will know better how to proceed....

The problem is that it is a lot of stress to move in that

direction! I am divorced as of 2 weeks ago, and on my own with 2 kids- 5 and

6- whom I homeschool.

Evie Maddox

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Hi Evie,

Ranting is a good thing. If you are cold all the time, warming herbs and

foods are really, really good for you. Going through a break up and trying to

maintain while taking care of the kids is difficult at best. If there is any

way for us to support you, your's is but to ask. Nutmeg is actually soft even

though it looks hard. There are nutmeg graters that actually would be better

termed " shavers " . they have a crank and a blade that shaves off a small amount

with each pass. This is the type that I recommend. The type that looks like a

washboard with a lot of holes is very wasteful and needs to be cleaned each

time. Nutmeg has several potential uses. First, it is the most powerful blood

pressure medicine you can lay your hands on. Second, it is again the most

powerful somniferic for any kind of sleeping disorder. Third, it's main use in

Ayurveda is as a digestive enhancer. It increases the absorption of nutrients (

great when needed but contra indicated in the case of something like " leaky

gut " ). Care must always be exercised when using nutmeg. Start out very low

(half teaspoon) and work your way up. The effects take a minimum of 4 hours and

up to 12 to kick in. Therefore you take a dose one day and do not alter it

until the next day in order to arrive at the proper amount. Capishe? The

ayurveda way would be to decoct it in milk. Hot cocoa sounds good to me.

RA is usually the immune system attacking joint tissue willy nilly. there

is almost if not always a major stressor involved that is the straw that breaks

the camel's back. Turmeric extract (curcumin... not cumin) is the premier anti

inflammatory. All the best, let us know how we may help. -Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: Evie Maddox<mailto:evie@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:34 PM

Subject: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

Hi Dave,

On your suggestion, I ran out and got some whole nutmeg a while back and it

is still sitting unused. What should I do with it? Any advice, hints,

suggestions would be great. I have no clue how to prepare it.

As an aside, I have been researching different kinds of arthritis for a

while, and it just occurred to me today that I might actually have

rheumatoid arthritis. I had been ignoring it, because it seems to be the

worst kind to have. But looking at my past history, it fits. I'm going to go

to the doctor soon to get a diagnosis so I will know better how to proceed.

I definitely need to get into a warmer climate, and I need a lower stress

lifestyle. The problem is that it is a lot of stress to move in that

direction! I am divorced as of 2 weeks ago, and on my own with 2 kids- 5 and

6- whom I homeschool. I also have a home business. It is hard to get things

done AND make the changes. Especially when I'm so * & %^ cold I just want to

stay under a blanket all day! Sorry for the rant.

Have a healthy day!

Evie Maddox

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Evie,

Keep in mind that any anti-fungal drugs are really bad

for the liver. So, Amber's recommdenation of Oil of

Oregano and other natural things are a good

alternative.

Also, if you think it may be RA, there are studies of

using NALTREXONE (Off-Label) low dose 3mg -- 5mg, it

really helps the imune system. It is also being

studied for MS, Lupus and many other things. Do a

Google search for " Low Dose NALTREXONE "

Good Luck,

--- Amber <amber@...> wrote:

> Seems like you have every right to rant and you need

> to let off some steam. Please see if your Dr. will

> prescribe some antifungals for you, e.g. Nystatin,

> Diflucan, etc. If not, get some natural antifungals

> from a health food store: OregeMax (oregano oil

> capsules), Garlic capsules, Caprylic acid, olive

> leaf extract, or just drink some apple cider vinegar

> in water. According to what Doug Kaufmann has been

> researching (for 37 years) and reports from the Mayo

> Clinic and others, most health problems stem from

> fungus in the body. It certainly won't hurt to try

> this. You can get more info from his website:

> www.knowthecause.com.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

>

> As an aside, I have been researching different

> kinds of arthritis for a

> while, and it just occurred to me today that I

> might actually have

> rheumatoid arthritis. ... I'm going to go

> to the doctor soon to get a diagnosis so I will

> know better how to proceed.... The problem is that

> it is a lot of stress to move in that

> direction! I am divorced as of 2 weeks ago, and on

> my own with 2 kids- 5 and

> 6- whom I homeschool.

>

> Evie Maddox

>

>

> .

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Thank you Dave! I have been making hot cocoa everyday with raw milk

and organic Dagoba hot chocolate mix. It is yummy. Would I put the

nutmeg in while I'm cooking it, or after? Also, could you find a

picture of the shaver that you're talking about? I just googled it

and saw so many different things, and so many different prices. I

did see some glass ones that you put the nutmeg in- is that like

what you mean? I saw some on eBay. I can't spend much time online as

my son and I have the flu. I thought I was doing better yesterday

and did 4 loads of laundry, and ended up with a 101 temp by bedtime.

So today I'm staying in the bath all day! :o)

Evie

>

> Hi Evie,

>

> Ranting is a good thing. If you are cold all the time,

warming herbs and foods are really, really good for you. Going

through a break up and trying to maintain while taking care of the

kids is difficult at best. If there is any way for us to support

you, your's is but to ask. Nutmeg is actually soft even though it

looks hard. There are nutmeg graters that actually would be better

termed " shavers " . they have a crank and a blade that shaves off a

small amount with each pass. This is the type that I recommend.

The type that looks like a washboard with a lot of holes is very

wasteful and needs to be cleaned each time. Nutmeg has several

potential uses. First, it is the most powerful blood pressure

medicine you can lay your hands on. Second, it is again the most

powerful somniferic for any kind of sleeping disorder. Third, it's

main use in Ayurveda is as a digestive enhancer. It increases the

absorption of nutrients ( great when needed but contra indicated in

the case of something like " leaky gut " ). Care must always be

exercised when using nutmeg. Start out very low (half teaspoon) and

work your way up. The effects take a minimum of 4 hours and up to

12 to kick in. Therefore you take a dose one day and do not alter

it until the next day in order to arrive at the proper amount.

Capishe? The ayurveda way would be to decoct it in milk. Hot cocoa

sounds good to me.

>

> RA is usually the immune system attacking joint tissue willy

nilly. there is almost if not always a major stressor involved that

is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Turmeric extract

(curcumin... not cumin) is the premier anti inflammatory. All the

best, let us know how we may help. -Dave

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Dave, thanks so much for the info re nutmeg. I have the gallbladder thing

pretty much under control thanks to this list, but I have been battling

borderline hypertension and am trying the nutmeg in some hot cocoa as we speak.

Thanks again.

Sunny

Rafter G Ranch

Coldspring, TX

(936) 653-5727

http://www.raftergranch.net

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Shelden

gallstones

Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:34 AM

Subject: Re: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

Hi Evie,

Ranting is a good thing. If you are cold all the time, warming herbs and foods

are really, really good for you. Going through a break up and trying to maintain

while taking care of the kids is difficult at best. If there is any way for us

to support you, your's is but to ask. Nutmeg is actually soft even though it

looks hard. There are nutmeg graters that actually would be better termed

" shavers " . they have a crank and a blade that shaves off a small amount with

each pass. This is the type that I recommend. The type that looks like a

washboard with a lot of holes is very wasteful and needs to be cleaned each

time. Nutmeg has several potential uses. First, it is the most powerful blood

pressure medicine you can lay your hands on. Second, it is again the most

powerful somniferic for any kind of sleeping disorder. Third, it's main use in

Ayurveda is as a digestive enhancer. It increases the absorption of nutrients (

great when needed but contra indicated in the case of something like " leaky

gut " ). Care must always be exercised when using nutmeg. Start out very low (half

teaspoon) and work your way up. The effects take a minimum of 4 hours and up to

12 to kick in. Therefore you take a dose one day and do not alter it until the

next day in order to arrive at the proper amount. Capishe? The ayurveda way

would be to decoct it in milk. Hot cocoa sounds good to me.

RA is usually the immune system attacking joint tissue willy nilly. there is

almost if not always a major stressor involved that is the straw that breaks the

camel's back. Turmeric extract (curcumin... not cumin) is the premier anti

inflammatory. All the best, let us know how we may help. -Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: Evie Maddox<mailto:evie@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:34 PM

Subject: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

Hi Dave,

On your suggestion, I ran out and got some whole nutmeg a while back and it

is still sitting unused. What should I do with it? Any advice, hints,

suggestions would be great. I have no clue how to prepare it.

As an aside, I have been researching different kinds of arthritis for a

while, and it just occurred to me today that I might actually have

rheumatoid arthritis. I had been ignoring it, because it seems to be the

worst kind to have. But looking at my past history, it fits. I'm going to go

to the doctor soon to get a diagnosis so I will know better how to proceed.

I definitely need to get into a warmer climate, and I need a lower stress

lifestyle. The problem is that it is a lot of stress to move in that

direction! I am divorced as of 2 weeks ago, and on my own with 2 kids- 5 and

6- whom I homeschool. I also have a home business. It is hard to get things

done AND make the changes. Especially when I'm so * & %^ cold I just want to

stay under a blanket all day! Sorry for the rant.

Have a healthy day!

Evie Maddox

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Grate or shave it in after cooking but while still hot. Keep in mind that

it takes a long time to kick in so if the sleep problem is getting to sleep it

needs to be taken in the 4pm range. Any kitchen store will have one. They are

dirt cheap. You will recognize the shaver type because you load a nut into the

grater and the cap will be spring loaded to keep pressure on the " nut " .

Sunny, for those of you that want to use it for blood pressure, start out

low and work up to desired effect. This may be very relaxing in higher

quantities so you have to play around with it until you find the proper dose and

still stay functional. Remember, do not continue to add on the same day. Only

ajust dose 24 hours apart or more. If for sleep you take it at 8 by 10 there is

still no effect so people take more and by 12 there is still no effect yet so

they take more, and it starts to kick in around 2 but since the took so much

they cannot make roll call in the morning when the alarm goes off. Death has

been reported on as little as one whole nutmeg in Ayurveda but I have a client

who takes the equivalent of 2 whole " nuts " a day just to keep his cardio from

exploding with no deleterious effects. If it wasn't a common baking spice it

would be illegal. My preferred way of administration by the way is ground and

capped because it is much easier to dose and the capping protects the volatile

oils from oxidation. Just as a side note, nutmegs closest relative is the

avocado! It is the pit in the middle.

Always, in all ways, -Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: Evie Maddox<mailto:evie@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:46 AM

Subject: Re: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

Thank you Dave! I have been making hot cocoa everyday with raw milk

and organic Dagoba hot chocolate mix. It is yummy. Would I put the

nutmeg in while I'm cooking it, or after? Also, could you find a

picture of the shaver that you're talking about? I just googled it

and saw so many different things, and so many different prices. I

did see some glass ones that you put the nutmeg in- is that like

what you mean? I saw some on eBay. I can't spend much time online as

my son and I have the flu. I thought I was doing better yesterday

and did 4 loads of laundry, and ended up with a 101 temp by bedtime.

So today I'm staying in the bath all day! :o)

Evie

>

> Hi Evie,

>

> Ranting is a good thing. If you are cold all the time,

warming herbs and foods are really, really good for you. Going

through a break up and trying to maintain while taking care of the

kids is difficult at best. If there is any way for us to support

you, your's is but to ask. Nutmeg is actually soft even though it

looks hard. There are nutmeg graters that actually would be better

termed " shavers " . they have a crank and a blade that shaves off a

small amount with each pass. This is the type that I recommend.

The type that looks like a washboard with a lot of holes is very

wasteful and needs to be cleaned each time. Nutmeg has several

potential uses. First, it is the most powerful blood pressure

medicine you can lay your hands on. Second, it is again the most

powerful somniferic for any kind of sleeping disorder. Third, it's

main use in Ayurveda is as a digestive enhancer. It increases the

absorption of nutrients ( great when needed but contra indicated in

the case of something like " leaky gut " ). Care must always be

exercised when using nutmeg. Start out very low (half teaspoon) and

work your way up. The effects take a minimum of 4 hours and up to

12 to kick in. Therefore you take a dose one day and do not alter

it until the next day in order to arrive at the proper amount.

Capishe? The ayurveda way would be to decoct it in milk. Hot cocoa

sounds good to me.

>

> RA is usually the immune system attacking joint tissue willy

nilly. there is almost if not always a major stressor involved that

is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Turmeric extract

(curcumin... not cumin) is the premier anti inflammatory. All the

best, let us know how we may help. -Dave

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Extra magnesium is supposed to help high blood pressure.

Amber

Dave, thanks so much for the info re nutmeg. I have the gallbladder thing

pretty much under control thanks to this list, but I have been battling

borderline hypertension and am trying the nutmeg in some hot cocoa as we speak.

Thanks again.

Sunny

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Thanks for the tips Dave! As soon as I can leave the house I'll search

for one.

Evie

>

> Grate or shave it in after cooking but while still hot. Keep

in mind that it takes a long time to kick in so if the sleep problem

is getting to sleep it needs to be taken in the 4pm range. Any

kitchen store will have one. They are dirt cheap. You will recognize

the shaver type because you load a nut into the grater and the cap

will be spring loaded to keep pressure on the " nut " .

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Cocoa (chocolate) is very bad for your kidneys, which are important organs blood

pressure problems. too much oxalic acid in chocolate - impairs kidneys IF you

have kidney/blood prossure problem.

Amber <amber@...> wrote: Extra magnesium is supposed

to help high blood pressure.

Amber

Dave, thanks so much for the info re nutmeg. I have the gallbladder thing pretty

much under control thanks to this list, but I have been battling borderline

hypertension and am trying the nutmeg in some hot cocoa as we speak. Thanks

again.

Sunny

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nutmeg is not soft. you said " nutmeg is really soft, it just looks hard " - what

kind of statement is this? contradictory

Dave Shelden <wholehealthawareness@...> wrote: Hi Evie,

Ranting is a good thing. If you are cold all the time, warming herbs and foods

are really, really good for you. Going through a break up and trying to maintain

while taking care of the kids is difficult at best. If there is any way for us

to support you, your's is but to ask. Nutmeg is actually soft even though it

looks hard. There are nutmeg graters that actually would be better termed

" shavers " . they have a crank and a blade that shaves off a small amount with

each pass. This is the type that I recommend. The type that looks like a

washboard with a lot of holes is very wasteful and needs to be cleaned each

time. Nutmeg has several potential uses. First, it is the most powerful blood

pressure medicine you can lay your hands on. Second, it is again the most

powerful somniferic for any kind of sleeping disorder. Third, it's main use in

Ayurveda is as a digestive enhancer. It increases the absorption of nutrients (

great when needed but contra indicated in the case of

something like " leaky gut " ). Care must always be exercised when using nutmeg.

Start out very low (half teaspoon) and work your way up. The effects take a

minimum of 4 hours and up to 12 to kick in. Therefore you take a dose one day

and do not alter it until the next day in order to arrive at the proper amount.

Capishe? The ayurveda way would be to decoct it in milk. Hot cocoa sounds good

to me.

RA is usually the immune system attacking joint tissue willy nilly. there is

almost if not always a major stressor involved that is the straw that breaks the

camel's back. Turmeric extract (curcumin... not cumin) is the premier anti

inflammatory. All the best, let us know how we may help. -Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: Evie Maddox<mailto:evie@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:34 PM

Subject: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

Hi Dave,

On your suggestion, I ran out and got some whole nutmeg a while back and it

is still sitting unused. What should I do with it? Any advice, hints,

suggestions would be great. I have no clue how to prepare it.

As an aside, I have been researching different kinds of arthritis for a

while, and it just occurred to me today that I might actually have

rheumatoid arthritis. I had been ignoring it, because it seems to be the

worst kind to have. But looking at my past history, it fits. I'm going to go

to the doctor soon to get a diagnosis so I will know better how to proceed.

I definitely need to get into a warmer climate, and I need a lower stress

lifestyle. The problem is that it is a lot of stress to move in that

direction! I am divorced as of 2 weeks ago, and on my own with 2 kids- 5 and

6- whom I homeschool. I also have a home business. It is hard to get things

done AND make the changes. Especially when I'm so * & %^ cold I just want to

stay under a blanket all day! Sorry for the rant.

Have a healthy day!

Evie Maddox

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Maybe I should have said " nutmeg is actually soft, it just looks hard " . Soft it

is. Soft enough to be able to shave with a knife, it does not need to be

grated. I grind pounds at a time easily. It is not as hard as it looks. About

the consistency of Reggiano Parmesan, maybe a little harder. If you use a

" grater it gums it up. -D

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gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:19 AM

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nutmeg is not soft. you said " nutmeg is really soft, it just looks hard " -

what kind of statement is this? contradictory

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Dave, the nutmeg seems to be working for the hypertension. I am taking some

other natural things as well, and I suspect that going the natural route doesn't

necessarily give the immediate effect of the Rx drugs, but I don't want the side

effects of the prescriptions. Anyway, I wanted to ask you where you get your

nutmeg. Do you order it off the internet? I live an hour and a half away from

any Houston store that might carry the whole nut, so am hoping I can get some by

ordering it. Thanks so much.

Sunny

Rafter G Ranch

Coldspring, TX

(936) 653-5727

http://www.raftergranch.net

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From: Dave Shelden

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:03 PM

Subject: Re: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

Maybe I should have said " nutmeg is actually soft, it just looks hard " . Soft

it is. Soft enough to be able to shave with a knife, it does not need to be

grated. I grind pounds at a time easily. It is not as hard as it looks. About

the consistency of Reggiano Parmesan, maybe a little harder. If you use a

" grater it gums it up. -D

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Come now Liz. What kind of a statement is this? I have now gone through no

less than 20 volumes with monographs on Theobroma cacao and 155 abstracts on

PubMed with no reference to oxalic acid content at all. Traditional and present

uses for cacao include kidney and heart tonic, diuretic, epithelial protection,

and the lowering of blood pressure (in very large quantities it can raise blood

pressure and cause problems. Drop that Godiva...). Everyone note that this

pertains to the cocoa not to dairy, sugar or whatever else is added. The methyl

zanthines (mainly theobromine) are dilatory to both the arterials and to the

bronchials, in fact a large dose of cocoa powder can save your life in an asthma

attack. More and more research is being done on the polyphenols present in

cacao and the benefits of such. The fats are emollient and protective of the

mucousal lining of the digestive tract and used medicinally for such. Linnaeus

himself gave it it's Latin name which translates to " Food of the Gods " . A close

relative from Brasil, theobroma grandiflorum (cupuassu) is also being studied

for it's medicinal qualities and is predicted by some to be the new super fruit,

drafting on the heals of such as acai', mangosteen and the rest. Tastes like

heaven. Ah, for a bowl of acai' pudding with cupuassu cream... -Dave

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Cocoa (chocolate) is very bad for your kidneys, which are important organs

blood pressure problems. too much oxalic acid in chocolate - impairs kidneys IF

you have kidney/blood prossure problem.

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Woops! I apologize for rephrasing. If you will look at the post Liz I did say

" actually " , not " really " . -D

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:19 AM

Subject: Re: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

nutmeg is not soft. you said " nutmeg is really soft, it just looks hard " -

what kind of statement is this? contradictory

Dave Shelden

<wholehealthawareness@...<mailto:wholehealthawareness@...>> wrote: Hi

Evie,

Nutmeg is actually soft even though it looks hard.

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The other night my stomach was a little uneasy and I wondered if I

should have my hot cocoa or not. I did have it, and was very surprised

that my stomach calmed right down and it was actually very soothing. I

use raw milk as well. So perhaps it wasn't all in my head!

Also, I've had peppermint tea sitting in the cabinet for a month or so

and finally tried it yesterday. It was SO yummy! Worked right away on

my indigestion from eating something I shouldn't have. It was almost

as if I were eating a Thin Mint. SO good.

Evie

The fats are emollient and protective of the mucousal lining of the

digestive tract and used medicinally for such. Linnaeus himself gave

it it's Latin name which translates to " Food of the Gods " . A close

relative from Brasil, theobroma grandiflorum (cupuassu) is also being

studied for it's medicinal qualities and is predicted by some to be

the new super fruit, drafting on the heals of such as acai',

mangosteen and the rest. Tastes like heaven. Ah, for a bowl of acai'

pudding with cupuassu cream... -Dave

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Let me add a note here also. If you will get the Raw Cacao powder for

your hot chocolates you will love it. It is not as bitter as the Hersey

cocoa is and you can sweeten it with the Agave nectar. I love to put

nutmeg and cinnamon in my hot cocoa too.

The raw cacao has all the nutrients left in it and you will get more

from it.

Regards,

> The fats are emollient and protective of the mucousal lining of the

> digestive tract and used medicinally for such. Linnaeus himself gave

> it it's Latin name which translates to " Food of the Gods " . A close

> relative from Brasil, theobroma grandiflorum (cupuassu) is also being

> studied for it's medicinal qualities and is predicted by some to be

> the new super fruit, drafting on the heals of such as acai',

> mangosteen and the rest. Tastes like heaven. Ah, for a bowl of acai'

> pudding with cupuassu cream... -Dave

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I'm looking around, trying to figure out whom you are assuming is

using Hershey's cocoa. *I* personally deserve more credit than that,

and probably most in this group as well. I'm cringing at the thought

of using Hershey's cocoa. Eeeeewww. (She leaves the room, annoying

those left wondering, " what's so bad about Hershey's? " )

Evie

>

> Let me add a note here also. If you will get the Raw Cacao powder for

> your hot chocolates you will love it. It is not as bitter as the

Hersey

> cocoa is and you can sweeten it with the Agave nectar. I love to put

> nutmeg and cinnamon in my hot cocoa too.

> The raw cacao has all the nutrients left in it and you will get more

> from it.

>

> Regards,

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Hi Sunny,

I get my nutmeg from large wholesale sources. I have a full time practice,

and dispensary for other health professionals so am in a bit of a different

situation than most of those on this group. The really good thing that when

talking about whole nutmeg, most is of medicinal quality. This is very

different than with most herbs. Therefore you can be confident that if you are

getting whole nut, even out of Safeway that it will do the job (even though you

will be paying 5 to 10 times the price). Please by no means assume that nutmeg

is a one shot wonder for blood pressure. There is always more to the picture.

It will be different depending on the individual and situation. This is not

meant as a over the counter treatment for high blood pressure. If you email me

off group I can fill you in more. Always, in all ways, -Dave

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:52 PM

Subject: Re: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

Dave, the nutmeg seems to be working for the hypertension. I am taking some

other natural things as well, and I suspect that going the natural route doesn't

necessarily give the immediate effect of the Rx drugs, but I don't want the side

effects of the prescriptions. Anyway, I wanted to ask you where you get your

nutmeg. Do you order it off the internet? I live an hour and a half away from

any Houston store that might carry the whole nut, so am hoping I can get some by

ordering it. Thanks so much.

Sunny

Rafter G Ranch

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:03 PM

Subject: Re: Question for Dave re: nutmeg

Maybe I should have said " nutmeg is actually soft, it just looks hard " . Soft

it is. Soft enough to be able to shave with a knife, it does not need to be

grated. I grind pounds at a time easily. It is not as hard as it looks. About

the consistency of Reggiano Parmesan, maybe a little harder. If you use a

" grater it gums it up. -D

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nutmeg is not soft. you said " nutmeg is really soft, it just looks hard " -

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