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I think you said it all here, Joe. I would agree that this is the way to go!

Even as a type A on the bt and scd, I eat a surprising amount of protein

(salmon, pickerel, organic chicken & eggs, mainly -- if I were an O I would have

some of that wonderful grass fed beef that dh is always having!)

What else makes you alkaline?

Which fruits and dried fruits? What about nuts and seeds? (I also eat a lot of

nuts...)

Frances

Joe wrote:

More animal protein, less vegetables are probably the way for me to

lean towards since I'm not supposed to eat any or much grain, or

legumes.

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Hi Joe, this fascinates me. How do you know that you are too alkaline? Hardly

anyone is too alkaline...most of us have to really struggle to be alkaline

enough.

I am under the care of a ND who monitors all sorts of things closely and has me

monitor at home. For example, I have pH paper to check first morning urine. It

is to be in the 6.6-7.2 range. And if it isn't then I am to take a " Greens "

drink as well as my Cal/Mg and other minerals.

I seem to be consistently in that range but DH has had more of a struggle - he

is an A and drinks coffee which increases acid. Also stress is a biggie for

making the body more acidic.

Now, if you do use pH paper and the reading is very alkaline, it does not mean

that your diet is right. What happens is that when you become too acidic, your

body has a protective mechanism and dumps a chemical, ammonia - I think- from

either the kidneys or liver...sorry, I have forgotten the details. This protects

you in the short term but is not healthy.

I am sure there are others on this list that can give you a www about all this.

Have you done a search on Acid/Alkaline balance?

Having said all that...if you still think that is your problem, try green tea.

It is healthy and has a lot of good phytochemicals but I find it churns up the

stomach acid.

I will be interested in what others have to say. Good luck. Ann

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Hi,

I've been too alkaline lately, and someone told me that it may be

because coconut oil is an alkaline forming food.

I've been taking 3 tbs. of coconut oil for the last month and I like

some of the things it's done for me.

I want to keep taking 3 tbs. a day of it because it has helped clear

my head and lift my depression.

I've had a tendency to be too alkaline. I've been too acid before too

but that was from too much ammonium chloride and betaine.

I think I'm going to have to eat less alkaline forming food to balance

my pH and stay the course. Some of the most alkaline forming foods are

carrot, greens, and celery [esp. raw].

This alkalinity has caused me to want to wander off course and eat

anything to acidify - spaghetti, cheese and other type O avoids,

SCDiet illegals, anything to acidify :-)

Does any of you know of any good pH balancing plans that aren't

expensive?

More animal protein, less vegetables are probably the way for me to

lean towards since I'm not supposed to eat any or much grain, or

legumes.

Any ideas are welcome.

Thie website :

http://biomedx.com/pH/page9.html

said that I should take 1 gram of ascorbic acid [vit C] twice a day

until the pH comes down. When I get too alkaline I can tell by

fatigue, diminished mental function and a funny taste in my mouth.

Thank you for any input.

Joe

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Hi Frances,

> I think you said it all here, Joe. I would agree that this is the

way to go!

>

> Even as a type A on the bt and scd, I eat a surprising amount of

protein (salmon, pickerel, organic chicken & eggs, mainly -- if I were

an O I would have some of that wonderful grass fed beef that dh is

always having!)

>

> What else makes you alkaline?

> Which fruits and dried fruits? What about nuts and seeds? (I also

eat a lot of nuts...)

>

> Frances

>

I've been eating 4 to 8 frozen bananas at night lately. I get a " sweet

tooth " at night about 9 PM. It may have to do with my anabolic

imbalance, but it's a little better now that I've increased magnesium

to 600 mg. daily.

Bananas [type O HB] are not an overly alkaline fruit - they're close

to neutral, like pear[n], peach[n], cherry [HB], blueberry [hb], etc.

I just ate some peanuts, which are type O avoids, so I screwed up my 5

day ER compliance, but peanuts are scd legal and acid producing.

I didn't anticipate that coconut oil would make me get alkaline, so

right now I'm dealing with that.

I was eating a lot of HB carrots the last 3 days, and this was too

much alkalinity for me right now with the coconut oil dosage.

I'll probably do fine just by limiting foods like carrot, even if they

are HB. I should focus more on other HB food like walnuts, etc.

Every time I eat, 3 or 4 different diets go through my head. I ask

myself : Should I eat brown rice? It's acid producing, ER neutral, SCD

illegal, and Paleo illegal. Should I eat refried pinto beans? They're

SCD illegal, ER neutral, Paleo illegal, but may be acid producing.

It's confusing. I've got a good foods list that tells a lot of food pH

values. I need to avoid the over alkaline foods, and I'm also going to

avoid all ER avoids very soon, and cheat on ER very seldom, probably

never.

For breakfast I had sardines [HB] in tomato [N] sauce, walnuts [HB],

and peanuts {A].

One really important thing for me is to make sure that I eat regular

proteins, and keep up coconut oil, and no grain [i think].

I'm confused.

Thanks for the input.

Joe

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Hi Ann,

I used to be on a program called Life Balances to balance my pH. My

anion/cation ratio was about 19 [very alkaline] when I started it, but

came down to normal [12] after 30 days. They also cut my cholesterol

and LFTs, ALT and AST in half in that time. Chol from 289 to 148.

This is a pain in the neck. I've considered going back on that again -

even with all the milk drinking - just to balance my pH and continue

taking coconut oil. I'm confused. Being alkaline sucks.

Sometimes I just say screw it and have spaghetti and beef for dinner -

it's acid producing and will not screw up the beneficial effects of

the coconut oil.

I'm wonfdering how my bowel function would be if I ate only meat for a

few days. Do you think I'd get constipated? Maybe I should ask a

caveman.

For some people over alkalinity can be a problem - like me.

I also have had weak gastric HCL production for several years.

Regards,

Joe

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Hey Joe,

Dadamo says: O's: take some glutamine in water to overcome sweet tooth!

(hope it's not too expensive for you!)

I hope you don't mind me saying so, but on the intuitive level, I would suggest:

why not ease up on that coconut oil?

Personally, I am a big fan of the carrot!

Frances

P. S. Had any broccoli or beet greens lately? There's nothing like veggies to

smooth out any and all communications within the human system!

Hi Frances,

I've been eating 4 to 8 frozen bananas at night lately. I get a " sweet

tooth " at night about 9 PM. It may have to do with my anabolic

imbalance, but it's a little better now that I've increased magnesium

to 600 mg. daily.

I didn't anticipate that coconut oil would make me get alkaline, so

right now I'm dealing with that.

I was eating a lot of HB carrots the last 3 days, and this was too

much alkalinity for me right now with the coconut oil dosage.

I'll probably do fine just by limiting foods like carrot, even if they

are HB. I should focus more on other HB food like walnuts, etc.

For breakfast I had sardines [HB] in tomato [N] sauce, walnuts [HB],

and peanuts {A].

One really important thing for me is to make sure that I eat regular

proteins, and keep up coconut oil, and no grain [i think].

I'm confused.

Thanks for the input.

Joe

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Hi Lynn,

I also think it is a very interesting question.

A pH inadequacy would go a long way in explaining why

so many people are now iodine deficient and why some

people on supplementation have problems benefitting

from their supplementation. A few months ago I tried

to get to the bottom of this but could find nothing on

the web. I even posted here to try to help

but nobody seemed interested.

In that respect I have an experience to relate. This

pH question came to my mind because I had been doing

an intensive practice of a special pranayama, that

lasted 90 days.

It is known that pranayama affects the pH of the blood

through the Bohr effect.

Every morning I test myself with a pendulum (I know

that most of you dismiss this but it is my practice

and it has worked well for me) to know which are the

supplements I should take that day and in which

quantity.

At that time I was daily taking between 2 and 4 g Vit

C, as prescribed by my pendulum.

From the third day of my practice, my pendulum said no

Vit C necessary. This lasted until about a week after

the termination of my 90 days program. I could only

deduce that this was due to a difference in the blood

pH while doing this pranayama, that allowed optimum

intake of Vit C from my food. I immediately thought

that it could be the same for assimilation of iodine

and I started searching the internet for references. I

found the same one you did. At that time the forum was

all about why some people couldn't assimilate iodine

etc, the role of NIS etc. I really think there is

something to be pursued here.

Some people, because of the practices of their life,

whether it be food, drink, physical exercise, way they

breathe etc, do not have the pH that allows them to

assimilate some elements.

Hope this helps! It has certainly helped me!

--- Lynn McGaha <lmcgaha@...> wrote:

> On one of my other lists, a " certified herb

> specialist " wrote: " What interferes with iodine

> uptake is the body pH. For the body to uptake

> iodine the pH is very narrow, the narrowest of all

> the uptake Phs. " This person's website is:

> http://thenaturalapothecary.com

>

> I asked him if he could provide any more information

> about this, but I haven't received a reply. I've

> never heard of this before, but maybe this is a

> variable to consider.

>

> I have read journal abstracts that say selenium

> sufficiency is a variable in iodine metabolism.

>

> Lynn

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