Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 I think you said it all here, Joe. I would agree that this is the way to go! Even as a type A on the bt and scd, I eat a surprising amount of protein (salmon, pickerel, organic chicken & eggs, mainly -- if I were an O I would have some of that wonderful grass fed beef that dh is always having!) What else makes you alkaline? Which fruits and dried fruits? What about nuts and seeds? (I also eat a lot of nuts...) Frances Joe wrote: More animal protein, less vegetables are probably the way for me to lean towards since I'm not supposed to eat any or much grain, or legumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hi Joe, this fascinates me. How do you know that you are too alkaline? Hardly anyone is too alkaline...most of us have to really struggle to be alkaline enough. I am under the care of a ND who monitors all sorts of things closely and has me monitor at home. For example, I have pH paper to check first morning urine. It is to be in the 6.6-7.2 range. And if it isn't then I am to take a " Greens " drink as well as my Cal/Mg and other minerals. I seem to be consistently in that range but DH has had more of a struggle - he is an A and drinks coffee which increases acid. Also stress is a biggie for making the body more acidic. Now, if you do use pH paper and the reading is very alkaline, it does not mean that your diet is right. What happens is that when you become too acidic, your body has a protective mechanism and dumps a chemical, ammonia - I think- from either the kidneys or liver...sorry, I have forgotten the details. This protects you in the short term but is not healthy. I am sure there are others on this list that can give you a www about all this. Have you done a search on Acid/Alkaline balance? Having said all that...if you still think that is your problem, try green tea. It is healthy and has a lot of good phytochemicals but I find it churns up the stomach acid. I will be interested in what others have to say. Good luck. Ann pH Question Hi, I've been too alkaline lately, and someone told me that it may be because coconut oil is an alkaline forming food. I've been taking 3 tbs. of coconut oil for the last month and I like some of the things it's done for me. I want to keep taking 3 tbs. a day of it because it has helped clear my head and lift my depression. I've had a tendency to be too alkaline. I've been too acid before too but that was from too much ammonium chloride and betaine. I think I'm going to have to eat less alkaline forming food to balance my pH and stay the course. Some of the most alkaline forming foods are carrot, greens, and celery [esp. raw]. This alkalinity has caused me to want to wander off course and eat anything to acidify - spaghetti, cheese and other type O avoids, SCDiet illegals, anything to acidify :-) Does any of you know of any good pH balancing plans that aren't expensive? More animal protein, less vegetables are probably the way for me to lean towards since I'm not supposed to eat any or much grain, or legumes. Any ideas are welcome. Thie website : http://biomedx.com/pH/page9.html said that I should take 1 gram of ascorbic acid [vit C] twice a day until the pH comes down. When I get too alkaline I can tell by fatigue, diminished mental function and a funny taste in my mouth. Thank you for any input. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hi Frances, > I think you said it all here, Joe. I would agree that this is the way to go! > > Even as a type A on the bt and scd, I eat a surprising amount of protein (salmon, pickerel, organic chicken & eggs, mainly -- if I were an O I would have some of that wonderful grass fed beef that dh is always having!) > > What else makes you alkaline? > Which fruits and dried fruits? What about nuts and seeds? (I also eat a lot of nuts...) > > Frances > I've been eating 4 to 8 frozen bananas at night lately. I get a " sweet tooth " at night about 9 PM. It may have to do with my anabolic imbalance, but it's a little better now that I've increased magnesium to 600 mg. daily. Bananas [type O HB] are not an overly alkaline fruit - they're close to neutral, like pear[n], peach[n], cherry [HB], blueberry [hb], etc. I just ate some peanuts, which are type O avoids, so I screwed up my 5 day ER compliance, but peanuts are scd legal and acid producing. I didn't anticipate that coconut oil would make me get alkaline, so right now I'm dealing with that. I was eating a lot of HB carrots the last 3 days, and this was too much alkalinity for me right now with the coconut oil dosage. I'll probably do fine just by limiting foods like carrot, even if they are HB. I should focus more on other HB food like walnuts, etc. Every time I eat, 3 or 4 different diets go through my head. I ask myself : Should I eat brown rice? It's acid producing, ER neutral, SCD illegal, and Paleo illegal. Should I eat refried pinto beans? They're SCD illegal, ER neutral, Paleo illegal, but may be acid producing. It's confusing. I've got a good foods list that tells a lot of food pH values. I need to avoid the over alkaline foods, and I'm also going to avoid all ER avoids very soon, and cheat on ER very seldom, probably never. For breakfast I had sardines [HB] in tomato [N] sauce, walnuts [HB], and peanuts {A]. One really important thing for me is to make sure that I eat regular proteins, and keep up coconut oil, and no grain [i think]. I'm confused. Thanks for the input. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hi Ann, I used to be on a program called Life Balances to balance my pH. My anion/cation ratio was about 19 [very alkaline] when I started it, but came down to normal [12] after 30 days. They also cut my cholesterol and LFTs, ALT and AST in half in that time. Chol from 289 to 148. This is a pain in the neck. I've considered going back on that again - even with all the milk drinking - just to balance my pH and continue taking coconut oil. I'm confused. Being alkaline sucks. Sometimes I just say screw it and have spaghetti and beef for dinner - it's acid producing and will not screw up the beneficial effects of the coconut oil. I'm wonfdering how my bowel function would be if I ate only meat for a few days. Do you think I'd get constipated? Maybe I should ask a caveman. For some people over alkalinity can be a problem - like me. I also have had weak gastric HCL production for several years. Regards, Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2002 Report Share Posted August 4, 2002 Hey Joe, Dadamo says: O's: take some glutamine in water to overcome sweet tooth! (hope it's not too expensive for you!) I hope you don't mind me saying so, but on the intuitive level, I would suggest: why not ease up on that coconut oil? Personally, I am a big fan of the carrot! Frances P. S. Had any broccoli or beet greens lately? There's nothing like veggies to smooth out any and all communications within the human system! Hi Frances, I've been eating 4 to 8 frozen bananas at night lately. I get a " sweet tooth " at night about 9 PM. It may have to do with my anabolic imbalance, but it's a little better now that I've increased magnesium to 600 mg. daily. I didn't anticipate that coconut oil would make me get alkaline, so right now I'm dealing with that. I was eating a lot of HB carrots the last 3 days, and this was too much alkalinity for me right now with the coconut oil dosage. I'll probably do fine just by limiting foods like carrot, even if they are HB. I should focus more on other HB food like walnuts, etc. For breakfast I had sardines [HB] in tomato [N] sauce, walnuts [HB], and peanuts {A]. One really important thing for me is to make sure that I eat regular proteins, and keep up coconut oil, and no grain [i think]. I'm confused. Thanks for the input. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Hi Lynn, I also think it is a very interesting question. A pH inadequacy would go a long way in explaining why so many people are now iodine deficient and why some people on supplementation have problems benefitting from their supplementation. A few months ago I tried to get to the bottom of this but could find nothing on the web. I even posted here to try to help but nobody seemed interested. In that respect I have an experience to relate. This pH question came to my mind because I had been doing an intensive practice of a special pranayama, that lasted 90 days. It is known that pranayama affects the pH of the blood through the Bohr effect. Every morning I test myself with a pendulum (I know that most of you dismiss this but it is my practice and it has worked well for me) to know which are the supplements I should take that day and in which quantity. At that time I was daily taking between 2 and 4 g Vit C, as prescribed by my pendulum. From the third day of my practice, my pendulum said no Vit C necessary. This lasted until about a week after the termination of my 90 days program. I could only deduce that this was due to a difference in the blood pH while doing this pranayama, that allowed optimum intake of Vit C from my food. I immediately thought that it could be the same for assimilation of iodine and I started searching the internet for references. I found the same one you did. At that time the forum was all about why some people couldn't assimilate iodine etc, the role of NIS etc. I really think there is something to be pursued here. Some people, because of the practices of their life, whether it be food, drink, physical exercise, way they breathe etc, do not have the pH that allows them to assimilate some elements. Hope this helps! It has certainly helped me! --- Lynn McGaha <lmcgaha@...> wrote: > On one of my other lists, a " certified herb > specialist " wrote: " What interferes with iodine > uptake is the body pH. For the body to uptake > iodine the pH is very narrow, the narrowest of all > the uptake Phs. " This person's website is: > http://thenaturalapothecary.com > > I asked him if he could provide any more information > about this, but I haven't received a reply. I've > never heard of this before, but maybe this is a > variable to consider. > > I have read journal abstracts that say selenium > sufficiency is a variable in iodine metabolism. > > Lynn ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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