Re: New Member & Need Some Info

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IMHO this is the wrong place to ask about whether the flush is a

scam or not.

Good luck researching, but remember who your are asking.

L

>

> f research about it. But I found two different sites which said the

> gallbladder flush is a hoax, that the " stones " many people claim to

> expel (like my mom did) is nothing more then " soaps " which form when

> the lemon/olive oil mix, then are colored with the bile and passed

> thru to look like stones. Even the mayo clinic suggested this which

> we both have always held in high regard.

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Hi

I've been on this board since November I believe and

no one has been able to tell me that they've done a

flush and then gone back to get an ultrasound that

confirms that the stones were " flushed " out. I was

looking for that proof as well as I too was scared of

a stone getting stuck during a flush.

It seems that the line of thinking on this board is

that if there are no symptoms then there are no

problems. That being said you have to remember that

many people have stones with no symptoms and many

people who do have an attack will have just one and

then never have another. So flushes or not they may

have never had another problem. I think, do what

works for you.

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[Guest guest]

The concept that if there are no symptoms there is no problem is what gets

people into the position of gallbladder disease in the first place. as has been

discussed over the past 4 years that I have been on the group, the actual make

up of the green blobs is completely immaterial, the proof is in the pudding: Do

people have relief of their symptoms, does their state of health improve, and

does the quality of life get better. The resounding answer for most, not all,

is yes. There are other stones past by people during the flushes that are

definitely calcifications. All one has to do is go to the pictures in the

archives of curezone including the pictures of stones removed during gallbladder

resections to see this. " Experts " who call the flushes a scam are usually those

with heavy educations and zero experiences puffing their chests and parroting

their paradigm. If a stone is interfering with the pancreatic duct it is

therefore at the very bottom of the common bile duct and is a breath away from

being released. If a stone was truly stuck there for a month while we wait for

the surgeon to get back from vacation, she would not be alive to make decisions.

This can be a very serious condition and stones stuck there and in the small

intestine not only inhibit flow but can eat a whole through either the duct or

intestine. What would be smarter, suffer while the surgeon is sipping

margaritas or attempt a worthless flush. I vote for the worthless flush 'cuz

the surgeon is worthless on vacation. -Dave

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Hi

I've been on this board since November I believe and

no one has been able to tell me that they've done a

flush and then gone back to get an ultrasound that

confirms that the stones were " flushed " out. I was

looking for that proof as well as I too was scared of

a stone getting stuck during a flush.

It seems that the line of thinking on this board is

that if there are no symptoms then there are no

problems. That being said you have to remember that

many people have stones with no symptoms and many

people who do have an attack will have just one and

then never have another. So flushes or not they may

have never had another problem. I think, do what

works for you.

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[Guest guest]

I'm not a doctor and would never give medical advice to anyone other

than myself...but I agree with Dave here.

I can't say what will or won't work for someone else. As for the gall

bladder flush, that worked for me, spectacularly. I don't know if it

would work for anyone else, but I'm sure glad I learned about it. It

saved me a lot of pain, money, and maybe even an unnecessary surgery.

>

> What would be smarter, suffer while the surgeon is sipping

margaritas or attempt a worthless flush. I vote for the worthless

flush 'cuz the surgeon is worthless on vacation. -Dave

[Guest guest]

Another thing to remember, along with all the other advice you are getting here,

is that losing weight too fast is also a cause of GB problems. She is losing

weight way too fast.

Amber

Well, it so happens the surgeon went on vacation so he has had her fasting on

a liquid diet for nearly a MONTH and she has lost 1-2 lbs a day (so far she has

lost over 28 lbs in 3 wks)

.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I'm new here & really need some advice for my mother. She has done

the gallbladder flush for several years and always felt better

afterwards. But the last 3 years she slacked off from doing so

because of work & other issues. About 2 wks ago she suddenly doubled

over in pain & I rushed her to ER. They said she probably had gotten

a stone stuck in the pancreas which caused irritation & swelling.

Within 72 hrs her enzymes went down and they sent her home on a

liquid diet, telling her she would need (you guessed it) gallbladder

surgery. Well, it so happens the surgeon went on vacation so he has

had her fasting on a liquid diet for nearly a MONTH and she has lost

1-2 lbs a day (so far she has lost over 28 lbs in 3 wks)

>

> So, the first thing we thought of was the gallbladder flush,

however now she's afraid to do it since the doctors scared her half

to death about getting a stone caught, and that it doesn't work in

the first place.

>

> So I got online and have been doing TONS of research about it. But

I found two different sites which said the gallbladder flush is a

hoax, that the " stones " many people claim to expel (like my mom did)

is nothing more then " soaps " which form when the lemon/olive oil mix,

then are colored with the bile and passed thru to look like stones.

Even the mayo clinic suggested this which we both have always held in

high regard.

>

> But the surgeon told mom she is a very high risk surgery because of

being allergic to certain medication used not only an anestesia but

also what they use to bring you out of it incase you run into a

problem.

>

> Mom is a very firm believer that the flush works, and is having 2nd

thoughts about going thru with surgery.

>

> Soooo, I would like to know if anyone has done the flush when in

this situation and what were the results? Has anyone ever gotten a

stone caught? And I would really like to know if anyone had any

before & after ultrasounds done of their gallbladder?

>

> Any other info you care to share I would be happy to have! Thank

you for taking the time to read this, sorry it was a bit lenghty.

Thanks!!!

> Chris

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

One more thing. I am 47 years old. I started developing an " age spot "

a.k.a. " liver spot " on my cheek bone. After some flushes, the spot

dissappeared. A few months later, I started getting a spot on the side

of my forehead. After just one flush this time, it dissappeared!

[Guest guest]

Hi CRM,

How about trying some epsom salt mixed with water or even better,

grapefruit juice to allow the ducts to expand and let the stone pass.

with out the oil component if she is afraid of the big push factor. It

might not be enough but a lot of people have had success with using this

method.

The reason for allergies is that the liver is plugged and is in great

need of flushing. The allergies will subside as the liver gets cleaned

out and can process the toxins again.

G Murray

CRM wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I'm new here & really need some advice for my mother. She has done the

gallbladder flush for several years and always felt better afterwards.

But the last 3 years she slacked off from doing so because of work &

other issues. About 2 wks ago she suddenly doubled over in pain & I

rushed her to ER. They said she probably had gotten a stone stuck in the

pancreas which caused irritation & swelling. Within 72 hrs her enzymes

went down and they sent her home on a liquid diet, telling her she would

need (you guessed it) gallbladder surgery. Well, it so happens the

surgeon went on vacation so he has had her fasting on a liquid diet for

nearly a MONTH and she has lost 1-2 lbs a day (so far she has lost over

28 lbs in 3 wks)

So, the first thing we thought of was the gallbladder flush, however now

she's afraid to do it since the doctors scared her half to death about

getting a stone caught, and that it doesn't work in the first place.

So I got online and have been doing TONS of research about it. But I

found two different sites which said the gallbladder flush is a hoax,

that the " stones " many people claim to expel (like my mom did) is

nothing more then " soaps " which form when the lemon/olive oil mix, then

are colored with the bile and passed thru to look like stones. Even the

mayo clinic suggested this which we both have always held in high regard.

But the surgeon told mom she is a very high risk surgery because of

being allergic to certain medication used not only an anestesia but also

what they use to bring you out of it incase you run into a problem.

Mom is a very firm believer that the flush works, and is having 2nd

thoughts about going thru with surgery.

Soooo, I would like to know if anyone has done the flush when in this

situation and what were the results? Has anyone ever gotten a stone

caught? And I would really like to know if anyone had any before & after

ultrasounds done of their gallbladder?

Any other info you care to share I would be happy to have! Thank you for

taking the time to read this, sorry it was a bit lenghty. Thanks!!!

Chris