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I've had trouble with muscle relaxants working, so they put me on valium 10mg 3x

a day. im off it now, but nothin has worked as well since. it just isnt

recommended for long term use-shrug<html><div>No greater burden can be borne by

an individual than to know no one cares or understands. </div></html>

neck pain@...: gatorma1@...: Fri, 1 Feb

2008 05:57:09 -0800Subject: For Dave

Dear Dave,Thank you for you post--- I too am on Vicodin(LORCETTE) -- 10 Mg's/650

acep.They are big blue pills which you can also score. It does help and too they

have given me Percocette for when it gets very bad. My PA has given me Vicodin

for my migraines and my rotator cuff too.I saw the spine Dr for my cervical

ridiculopathy, 6 discs and stenosis-- and he is referring me to a PT and an

epidural for which I do not think I am going to have-- I see that they do not

help much and so do not want me to go though that. Are they painful in the

neck?What is Baclofen? I can not take any anti inflammatories as they give me

hives and difficulty breathing. So that flips me into the narcotic family.Opiate

medication is addictive and I try to take only 3-4 a day but I have heard and

read about people taking as much as forty a day when they re abusing it!So Dave

and , take care, God bless all of you and keep us informed. It helps to read

and hear about all of our trials shared in this group.Sincerely, Annie Dave

Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...> wrote:>>Hi ,>I am so sorry not to post

but I haven't gotten my combined updates for>this group. Anyway, it was horrid.

Anyway, the doctor is>threatening to take my pain meds away and will still not

prescribe me>Baclofen which helps make the Norco work. My home town GP, bless

him,>wrote me a script and I am getting along. I still have a lot of pain>but am

able to doze off for a 5 hour stretch now. Thank you for your>concern

.>Cheryl VI'm sorry to hear it was such a bad experience. Why is your Dr.

threatening to take your pain meds away? I too use baclofen along with several

other meds. It's a big help. Reading your and others stories I thank God for my

Family Doctor who is my pain mgmnt guy also. He's been great about whatever it

takes to make my life more bearable. As an FYI he's the leader of his practice

group which is a Christian based, conservative practice, yet he's been

incredible as far as pain management. His only concern is for me, and any liver

and or other organ damage long term use can cause. Right now I'm at the maximum

amount of Vicoden I can take for my height and weight. So where we go next, I'm

not sure. Again I praise God for him. Thanks for sharing Cheryl. Dave

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I've had trouble with muscle relaxants working, so they put me on valium 10mg 3x

a day. im off it now, but nothin has worked as well since. it just isnt

recommended for long term use-shrug<html><div>No greater burden can be borne by

an individual than to know no one cares or understands. </div></html>

neck pain@...: gatorma1@...: Fri, 1 Feb

2008 05:57:09 -0800Subject: For Dave

Dear Dave,Thank you for you post--- I too am on Vicodin(LORCETTE) -- 10 Mg's/650

acep.They are big blue pills which you can also score. It does help and too they

have given me Percocette for when it gets very bad. My PA has given me Vicodin

for my migraines and my rotator cuff too.I saw the spine Dr for my cervical

ridiculopathy, 6 discs and stenosis-- and he is referring me to a PT and an

epidural for which I do not think I am going to have-- I see that they do not

help much and so do not want me to go though that. Are they painful in the

neck?What is Baclofen? I can not take any anti inflammatories as they give me

hives and difficulty breathing. So that flips me into the narcotic family.Opiate

medication is addictive and I try to take only 3-4 a day but I have heard and

read about people taking as much as forty a day when they re abusing it!So Dave

and , take care, God bless all of you and keep us informed. It helps to read

and hear about all of our trials shared in this group.Sincerely, Annie Dave

Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...> wrote:>>Hi ,>I am so sorry not to post

but I haven't gotten my combined updates for>this group. Anyway, it was horrid.

Anyway, the doctor is>threatening to take my pain meds away and will still not

prescribe me>Baclofen which helps make the Norco work. My home town GP, bless

him,>wrote me a script and I am getting along. I still have a lot of pain>but am

able to doze off for a 5 hour stretch now. Thank you for your>concern

.>Cheryl VI'm sorry to hear it was such a bad experience. Why is your Dr.

threatening to take your pain meds away? I too use baclofen along with several

other meds. It's a big help. Reading your and others stories I thank God for my

Family Doctor who is my pain mgmnt guy also. He's been great about whatever it

takes to make my life more bearable. As an FYI he's the leader of his practice

group which is a Christian based, conservative practice, yet he's been

incredible as far as pain management. His only concern is for me, and any liver

and or other organ damage long term use can cause. Right now I'm at the maximum

amount of Vicoden I can take for my height and weight. So where we go next, I'm

not sure. Again I praise God for him. Thanks for sharing Cheryl. Dave

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better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it

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At 08:57 AM 2/1/2008, you wrote:

>Dear Dave,

>

>What is Baclofen?

It seems like others have answered you already. It's a muscle

relaxer. I take 20mg 2x during the day, and once at bedtime. I also

take several others, too many to mention here.

>So Dave and , take care, God bless all of you and keep us

>informed. It helps to read and hear about all of our trials shared

>in this group.

>Sincerely, Annie

Thank you, I hope healing blessings come your way, and all our ways too, Dave

>Dave Cruikshank

><<mailto:d.cruikshank%40comcast.net>d.cruikshank@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >Hi ,

> >I am so sorry not to post but I haven't gotten my combined updates for

> >this group. Anyway, it was horrid. Anyway, the doctor is

> >threatening to take my pain meds away and will still not prescribe me

> >Baclofen which helps make the Norco work. My home town GP, bless him,

> >wrote me a script and I am getting along. I still have a lot of pain

> >but am able to doze off for a 5 hour stretch now. Thank you for your

> >concern .

> >Cheryl V

>

>I'm sorry to hear it was such a bad experience. Why is your Dr.

>threatening to take your pain meds away? I too use baclofen along

>with several other meds. It's a big help. Reading your and others

>stories I thank God for my Family Doctor who is my pain mgmnt guy

>also. He's been great about whatever it takes to make my life more

>bearable. As an FYI he's the leader of his practice group which is a

>Christian based, conservative practice, yet he's been incredible as

>far as pain management. His only concern is for me, and any liver

>and or other organ damage long term use can cause. Right now I'm at

>the maximum amount of Vicoden I can take for my height and weight. So

>where we go next, I'm not sure. Again I praise God for him. Thanks

>for sharing Cheryl. Dave

>

>

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At 08:57 AM 2/1/2008, you wrote:

>Dear Dave,

>

>What is Baclofen?

It seems like others have answered you already. It's a muscle

relaxer. I take 20mg 2x during the day, and once at bedtime. I also

take several others, too many to mention here.

>So Dave and , take care, God bless all of you and keep us

>informed. It helps to read and hear about all of our trials shared

>in this group.

>Sincerely, Annie

Thank you, I hope healing blessings come your way, and all our ways too, Dave

>Dave Cruikshank

><<mailto:d.cruikshank%40comcast.net>d.cruikshank@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >Hi ,

> >I am so sorry not to post but I haven't gotten my combined updates for

> >this group. Anyway, it was horrid. Anyway, the doctor is

> >threatening to take my pain meds away and will still not prescribe me

> >Baclofen which helps make the Norco work. My home town GP, bless him,

> >wrote me a script and I am getting along. I still have a lot of pain

> >but am able to doze off for a 5 hour stretch now. Thank you for your

> >concern .

> >Cheryl V

>

>I'm sorry to hear it was such a bad experience. Why is your Dr.

>threatening to take your pain meds away? I too use baclofen along

>with several other meds. It's a big help. Reading your and others

>stories I thank God for my Family Doctor who is my pain mgmnt guy

>also. He's been great about whatever it takes to make my life more

>bearable. As an FYI he's the leader of his practice group which is a

>Christian based, conservative practice, yet he's been incredible as

>far as pain management. His only concern is for me, and any liver

>and or other organ damage long term use can cause. Right now I'm at

>the maximum amount of Vicoden I can take for my height and weight. So

>where we go next, I'm not sure. Again I praise God for him. Thanks

>for sharing Cheryl. Dave

>

>

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Thank you very much Amber. It makes it all worthwhile. -D

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Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:04 PM

Subject: For Dave

Dave, I forwarded your message about Candida to the author of the books I've

been proofreading. He's written several books on fungus. I thought you might

like to see his reply.

>Actually, I agree with this! Good writer!>

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You are very welcome. I thought that was worth passing on. I know how elated I

become when someone actually listens to something I say and they are helped.

Amber

Thank you very much Amber. It makes it all worthwhile. -D

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Hi Ann

I read about your posting about your brother and felt for you. Im sorry I did

not respond.

As to trigger finger Im afraid I dont know anything about that.

I did not get your email about the failed epidural or I would have responded- I

actually had one two weeks ago and it only made things worse, last year the Doc

was able to get it but this time, I didnt even feel it and than the nerve root

just got way irritated.

Is that what happened to you?

For Dave

Dave,

I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked something about

trigger finger, reported about my failed second epidural and then shared a

personal loss about my brother (not to mention several other emails) and I have

not received one response. is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply

to others' posts.

Is there something that I am doing wrong?

Dave Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...> wrote:

At 02:04 PM 6/2/2008, you wrote:

>I wrote this(below) and joined your group some time ago, I at

>least have found a Dr. to help me somewhat, but I can't keep up with

>the group as I should. I need to recieve less E-Mail. Unless there

>is someway to keep me on the list and only recieve statements about

>me or that can help my situation just remove me from the group, and

>send my best wishes to all.

Gerald we would like to keep you as a member if we can be of any

service at all, or if you can provide us with some of your

experiences, and maybe help someone on the list. That's why we are

here. There are several options. You can get a daily summery of all

the e-mails from the group, instead of many individual ones. You can

choose to be Internet only. That way your still a member, you won't

get e-mails, and you can visit the groups site to read and or post

messages. One last option is that you can create a filter in your

e-mail program. All e-mail programs allow for this. This would direct

all email coming from the group into a separate box for just neck and

back pain e-mail. Then you can read that when you get a chance, and

it would be easier to highlight and delete those of no interest to

you. Or we can just un subscribe you from the list if that's what

you really want. Think about it and let me know. Sincerely, Dave Moderator.

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HI .

Than you so dealy for your email. It made me feel validaed and realized.

I have not had any result from the injection and am still waiting for it to

kick in.

The nerve is very irritated too.

Thank you again .

Annie

<wendy.tom@...> wrote:

Hi Ann

I read about your posting about your brother and felt for you. Im sorry I did

not respond.

As to trigger finger Im afraid I dont know anything about that.

I did not get your email about the failed epidural or I would have responded- I

actually had one two weeks ago and it only made things worse, last year the Doc

was able to get it but this time, I didnt even feel it and than the nerve root

just got way irritated.

Is that what happened to you?

For Dave

Dave,

I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked something about

trigger finger, reported about my failed second epidural and then shared a

personal loss about my brother (not to mention several other emails) and I have

not received one response. is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply

to others' posts.

Is there something that I am doing wrong?

Dave Cruikshank wrote:

At 02:04 PM 6/2/2008, you wrote:

>I wrote this(below) and joined your group some time ago, I at

>least have found a Dr. to help me somewhat, but I can't keep up with

>the group as I should. I need to recieve less E-Mail. Unless there

>is someway to keep me on the list and only recieve statements about

>me or that can help my situation just remove me from the group, and

>send my best wishes to all.

Gerald we would like to keep you as a member if we can be of any

service at all, or if you can provide us with some of your

experiences, and maybe help someone on the list. That's why we are

here. There are several options. You can get a daily summery of all

the e-mails from the group, instead of many individual ones. You can

choose to be Internet only. That way your still a member, you won't

get e-mails, and you can visit the groups site to read and or post

messages. One last option is that you can create a filter in your

e-mail program. All e-mail programs allow for this. This would direct

all email coming from the group into a separate box for just neck and

back pain e-mail. Then you can read that when you get a chance, and

it would be easier to highlight and delete those of no interest to

you. Or we can just un subscribe you from the list if that's what

you really want. Think about it and let me know. Sincerely, Dave Moderator.

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At 05:54 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:

>Dave,

>I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

>something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

>epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

>mention several other emails) and I have not received one response.

> is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others' posts.

>Is there something that I am doing wrong?

>

>

You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry if

I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people may

not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

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Me on the other hand, i am usually around. Even on weekends, so i

have noticed that on weekends its really quiet. So if someone joins,

i try to say Hi at least.... I usually dont know what they have,dont

know about surgery, things like that. But if i see no one is around,

i try to welcome them. Then i figure when everyone gets back, they

can answer the questions. I guess i just like to TALK, and that can

be a pain in the BUTT too! But we ought to all try and answer new

people, because Tim left?. And i think it just is too quiet here

sometimes.LOL cindy-- In neck pain , Dave

Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...> wrote:

>

> At 05:54 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:

>

> >Dave,

> >I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

> >something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

> >epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

> >mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

> > is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others'

posts.

> >Is there something that I am doing wrong?

> >

> >

>

> You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

> couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

> I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

> getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

> others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

> not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

> have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

>

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> > i think we all need to realize we are in this group cause we all

have some things in common- like pain. I wouldnt take anything

personally- we all cant sit on the computer and respond to every e-

mail we get. I am sorry for everyones issues and am interested in

what everyone has to say but we have families, jobs and etc. that

needs attention as well. I am 6 weeks post surgery l5-s1 and still in

alot of pain. i cant sit too long or walk too long and my leg still

has spasms and numbing in my toes. my husband went back to work so by

the end of the day 2kids, a dog, dinner and chores ===s i am dust. i

wish everyone a pain free life but we all know that dosent happen

overnite. Hang in there and try not to take non replys personally- i

am listen i just might not have the answers

> > >Dave,

> > >I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

> > >something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

> > >epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not

to

> > >mention several other emails) and I have not received one

> response.

> > > is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others'

> posts.

> > >Is there something that I am doing wrong?

> > >

> > >

> >

> > You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

> > couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm

sorry

> if

> > I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

> > getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

> > others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

> may

> > not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

> > have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

> >

>

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Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and my

mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and

Joannie Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene

& Vera Blackwell in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were

distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

Philadelphia and town.

You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my

daytime pain management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have

to work full time in order for our family to have health insurance

and can't take the Vicodin or Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2

Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not until @7:30 along with

my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin & Elevil and still

can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a night

from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use

it at night if I could (toss and turn too much).

My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than 2weeks

before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in

C3, C4 & C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my

right shoulder was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he

said he will no longer do any more injections as I don't benefit from

them. I was told to have my family doc. prescribe my pain meds.

Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't prescribe any

narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you need

to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I

treated with for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is

not compfortable doing injections either nor will they do just

medical management ( I was told the same thing by 3 other pain mgmt

groups).

So, would you have any advice/suggestions either how to find a doctor

that will help me manage my pain who is not just a pill pusher? Any

suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.

Thanks for lending an ear.

Sandi

>

> >Dave,

> >I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

> >something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

> >epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

> >mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

> > is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others'

posts.

> >Is there something that I am doing wrong?

> >

> >

>

> You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

> couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

> I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

> getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

> others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

> not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

> have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

>

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Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and my

mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and

Joannie Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene

& Vera Blackwell in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were

distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

Philadelphia and town.

You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my

daytime pain management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have

to work full time in order for our family to have health insurance

and can't take the Vicodin or Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2

Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not until @7:30 along with

my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin & Elevil and still

can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a night

from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use

it at night if I could (toss and turn too much).

My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than 2weeks

before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in

C3, C4 & C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my

right shoulder was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he

said he will no longer do any more injections as I don't benefit from

them. I was told to have my family doc. prescribe my pain meds.

Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't prescribe any

narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you need

to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I

treated with for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is

not compfortable doing injections either nor will they do just

medical management ( I was told the same thing by 3 other pain mgmt

groups).

So, would you have any advice/suggestions either how to find a doctor

that will help me manage my pain who is not just a pill pusher? Any

suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.

Thanks for lending an ear.

Sandi

>

> >Dave,

> >I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

> >something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

> >epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

> >mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

> > is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others'

posts.

> >Is there something that I am doing wrong?

> >

> >

>

> You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

> couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

> I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

> getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

> others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

> not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

> have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

>

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if you are willing to come to the Washington DC area there is a very good group

with #4 locations called " capitol spine and pain " and they have doctors who are

always listed the top docs in the Washingtonian magazine. Dr. Cherrick takes a

couple months to see, but there are others in the group that dont take that

long.

They ae Physical Medicine Docs who do all the injections, etc... but also do

medical management.

You can look them up on the internet under " capitol spine and pain " and their

telephone# 703-998-8824.

town University hospital also has a very reputable pain clinic.

I know its far, but you can take a train into DC which is nice. A lot of people

travel to get to these guys.

good luck.

wendy

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Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and my

mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and

Joannie Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene

& Vera Blackwell in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were

distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

Philadelphia and town.

You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my

daytime pain management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have

to work full time in order for our family to have health insurance

and can't take the Vicodin or Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2

Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not until @7:30 along with

my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin & Elevil and still

can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a night

from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use

it at night if I could (toss and turn too much).

My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than 2weeks

before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in

C3, C4 & C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my

right shoulder was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he

said he will no longer do any more injections as I don't benefit from

them. I was told to have my family doc. prescribe my pain meds.

Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't prescribe any

narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you need

to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I

treated with for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is

not compfortable doing injections either nor will they do just

medical management ( I was told the same thing by 3 other pain mgmt

groups).

So, would you have any advice/suggestions either how to find a doctor

that will help me manage my pain who is not just a pill pusher? Any

suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.

Thanks for lending an ear.

Sandi

>

> >Dave,

> >I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

> >something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

> >epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

> >mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

> > is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others'

posts.

> >Is there something that I am doing wrong?

> >

> >

>

> You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

> couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

> I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

> getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

> others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

> not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

> have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

>

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if you are willing to come to the Washington DC area there is a very good group

with #4 locations called " capitol spine and pain " and they have doctors who are

always listed the top docs in the Washingtonian magazine. Dr. Cherrick takes a

couple months to see, but there are others in the group that dont take that

long.

They ae Physical Medicine Docs who do all the injections, etc... but also do

medical management.

You can look them up on the internet under " capitol spine and pain " and their

telephone# 703-998-8824.

town University hospital also has a very reputable pain clinic.

I know its far, but you can take a train into DC which is nice. A lot of people

travel to get to these guys.

good luck.

wendy

Re: For Dave

Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and my

mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and

Joannie Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene

& Vera Blackwell in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were

distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

Philadelphia and town.

You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my

daytime pain management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have

to work full time in order for our family to have health insurance

and can't take the Vicodin or Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2

Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not until @7:30 along with

my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin & Elevil and still

can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a night

from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use

it at night if I could (toss and turn too much).

My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than 2weeks

before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in

C3, C4 & C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my

right shoulder was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he

said he will no longer do any more injections as I don't benefit from

them. I was told to have my family doc. prescribe my pain meds.

Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't prescribe any

narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you need

to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I

treated with for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is

not compfortable doing injections either nor will they do just

medical management ( I was told the same thing by 3 other pain mgmt

groups).

So, would you have any advice/suggestions either how to find a doctor

that will help me manage my pain who is not just a pill pusher? Any

suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.

Thanks for lending an ear.

Sandi

>

> >Dave,

> >I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

> >something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

> >epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

> >mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

> > is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others'

posts.

> >Is there something that I am doing wrong?

> >

> >

>

> You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

> couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

> I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

> getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

> others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

> not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

> have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

>

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sorry I meant to address this to Sandi.

Re: For Dave

Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and my

mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and

Joannie Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene

& Vera Blackwell in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were

distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

Philadelphia and town.

You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my

daytime pain management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have

to work full time in order for our family to have health insurance

and can't take the Vicodin or Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2

Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not until @7:30 along with

my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin & Elevil and still

can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a night

from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use

it at night if I could (toss and turn too much).

My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than 2weeks

before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in

C3, C4 & C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my

right shoulder was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he

said he will no longer do any more injections as I don't benefit from

them. I was told to have my family doc. prescribe my pain meds.

Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't prescribe any

narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you need

to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I

treated with for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is

not compfortable doing injections either nor will they do just

medical management ( I was told the same thing by 3 other pain mgmt

groups).

So, would you have any advice/suggestions either how to find a doctor

that will help me manage my pain who is not just a pill pusher? Any

suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.

Thanks for lending an ear.

Sandi

>

> >Dave,

> >I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

> >something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

> >epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

> >mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

> > is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others'

posts.

> >Is there something that I am doing wrong?

> >

> >

>

> You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

> couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

> I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

> getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

> others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

> not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

> have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

>

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sorry I meant to address this to Sandi.

Re: For Dave

Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and my

mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and

Joannie Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene

& Vera Blackwell in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were

distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

Philadelphia and town.

You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my

daytime pain management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have

to work full time in order for our family to have health insurance

and can't take the Vicodin or Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2

Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not until @7:30 along with

my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin & Elevil and still

can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a night

from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use

it at night if I could (toss and turn too much).

My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than 2weeks

before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in

C3, C4 & C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my

right shoulder was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he

said he will no longer do any more injections as I don't benefit from

them. I was told to have my family doc. prescribe my pain meds.

Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't prescribe any

narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you need

to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I

treated with for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is

not compfortable doing injections either nor will they do just

medical management ( I was told the same thing by 3 other pain mgmt

groups).

So, would you have any advice/suggestions either how to find a doctor

that will help me manage my pain who is not just a pill pusher? Any

suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.

Thanks for lending an ear.

Sandi

>

> >Dave,

> >I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

> >something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

> >epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

> >mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

> > is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to others'

posts.

> >Is there something that I am doing wrong?

> >

> >

>

> You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

> couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

> I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

> getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

> others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

> not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

> have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

>

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At 03:02 PM 6/6/2008, you wrote:

>Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

>you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

>world!

> Wouldn't it be funny if we were

>distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

>Philadelphia and town.

Well could be. I knew of Andracavages from Frackville, but not as

relatives. But I did have relatives named Wesner, and another name

that escapes me now from Long Row. And growing up the Blackwells

lived right across the street from me. I was just in Long Row last

Saturday. I'm interested in all things history especially the coal

mines and railroads.

>You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

>C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

>it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

>primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

>which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

>surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc).

My pain is also mainly on my right side. It feels like someone has a

screwdriver under my shoulder blade and is twisting it. That is

after a cervical fusion and clearing out of bone spurs that was

supposed to get rid of that pain. It actually increased it. I have

24x7 chronic pain, and it's always worse at night. I never sleep the

whole night through. My wife and I took a day trip to New Hope

yesterday. I finally fell asleep between 6-7am this morning having

gone to bed at 11:00pm. I have been to several second opinions, and

many pain specialist, therapies, injections, multiple courses of

meds, acupuncture, you name it. Non has found a cause or relief of my

pain, other than narcotics.

>My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

>prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

>that they will no longer prescribe pain meds.

>Thanks for lending an ear.

>Sandi

Unfortunately many on this list have been through that runaround. It

really is a catch 22. I'm blessed in that I have a very

understanding doctor from Lancaster County, PA who treats my pain

with the level of narcotics and others required. But he is not a

pusher. I need to see him every 90 days for follow up, sign a

statement I won't sell or give away my meds, he gives me no more than

I need at this time, and requires blood test for liver functions. I

could ask him if he can recommend anyone, or is willing to see a new

patient. Even though we moved 3 years ago, I travel 1 hour each way

to see him. My local pain management Doctor here in Reading quit to

become a landscaper. all that training and investment in $$ and

education. He couldn't afford the liability insurance in PA anymore.

Hope this somewhat helps, Dave

BTW, ICE packs really helps me any time of the day.

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At 03:02 PM 6/6/2008, you wrote:

>Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

>you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

>world!

> Wouldn't it be funny if we were

>distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

>Philadelphia and town.

Well could be. I knew of Andracavages from Frackville, but not as

relatives. But I did have relatives named Wesner, and another name

that escapes me now from Long Row. And growing up the Blackwells

lived right across the street from me. I was just in Long Row last

Saturday. I'm interested in all things history especially the coal

mines and railroads.

>You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

>C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

>it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

>primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

>which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

>surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc).

My pain is also mainly on my right side. It feels like someone has a

screwdriver under my shoulder blade and is twisting it. That is

after a cervical fusion and clearing out of bone spurs that was

supposed to get rid of that pain. It actually increased it. I have

24x7 chronic pain, and it's always worse at night. I never sleep the

whole night through. My wife and I took a day trip to New Hope

yesterday. I finally fell asleep between 6-7am this morning having

gone to bed at 11:00pm. I have been to several second opinions, and

many pain specialist, therapies, injections, multiple courses of

meds, acupuncture, you name it. Non has found a cause or relief of my

pain, other than narcotics.

>My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

>prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

>that they will no longer prescribe pain meds.

>Thanks for lending an ear.

>Sandi

Unfortunately many on this list have been through that runaround. It

really is a catch 22. I'm blessed in that I have a very

understanding doctor from Lancaster County, PA who treats my pain

with the level of narcotics and others required. But he is not a

pusher. I need to see him every 90 days for follow up, sign a

statement I won't sell or give away my meds, he gives me no more than

I need at this time, and requires blood test for liver functions. I

could ask him if he can recommend anyone, or is willing to see a new

patient. Even though we moved 3 years ago, I travel 1 hour each way

to see him. My local pain management Doctor here in Reading quit to

become a landscaper. all that training and investment in $$ and

education. He couldn't afford the liability insurance in PA anymore.

Hope this somewhat helps, Dave

BTW, ICE packs really helps me any time of the day.

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Group,

Is this inter-state Dr shopping?

I am only asking, as I one ha a acquainatnce that went all the way from Florida

back to Va to get his oxycontin.

From: & lt;wendy.tom@... & gt;

Subject: RE: Re: For Dave

neck pain

Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 3:13 PM

if you are willing to come to the Washington DC area there is a very good group

with #4 locations called " capitol spine and pain " and they have

doctors who are always listed the top docs in the Washingtonian magazine. Dr.

Cherrick takes a couple months to see, but there are others in the group that

dont take that long.

They ae Physical Medicine Docs who do all the injections, etc... but also do

medical management.

You can look them up on the internet under " capitol spine and pain "

and their telephone# 703-998-8824.

town University hospital also has a very reputable pain clinic.

I know its far, but you can take a train into DC which is nice. A lot of

people travel to get to these guys.

good luck.

wendy

Re: For Dave

Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and my

mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and

Joannie Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene

& amp; Vera Blackwell in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were

distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

Philadelphia and town.

You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

surgeons, my neck surgeon & amp; pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my

daytime pain management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have

to work full time in order for our family to have health insurance

and can't take the Vicodin or Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2

Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not until @7:30 along with

my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin & amp; Elevil and

still

can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a night

from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use

it at night if I could (toss and turn too much).

My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than 2weeks

before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in

C3, C4 & amp; C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my

right shoulder was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he

said he will no longer do any more injections as I don't benefit from

them. I was told to have my family doc. prescribe my pain meds.

Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't prescribe any

narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you need

to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I

treated with for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is

not compfortable doing injections either nor will they do just

medical management ( I was told the same thing by 3 other pain mgmt

groups).

So, would you have any advice/suggestions either how to find a doctor

that will help me manage my pain who is not just a pill pusher? Any

suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.

Thanks for lending an ear.

Sandi

& gt;

& gt; & gt;Dave,

& gt; & gt;I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

& gt; & gt;something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

& gt; & gt;epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

& gt; & gt;mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

& gt; & gt; is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to

others'

posts.

& gt; & gt;Is there something that I am doing wrong?

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt;

& gt;

& gt; You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

& gt; couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

& gt; I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

& gt; getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

& gt; others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

& gt; not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

& gt; have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

& gt;

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Group,

Is this inter-state Dr shopping?

I am only asking, as I one ha a acquainatnce that went all the way from Florida

back to Va to get his oxycontin.

From: & lt;wendy.tom@... & gt;

Subject: RE: Re: For Dave

neck pain

Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 3:13 PM

if you are willing to come to the Washington DC area there is a very good group

with #4 locations called " capitol spine and pain " and they have

doctors who are always listed the top docs in the Washingtonian magazine. Dr.

Cherrick takes a couple months to see, but there are others in the group that

dont take that long.

They ae Physical Medicine Docs who do all the injections, etc... but also do

medical management.

You can look them up on the internet under " capitol spine and pain "

and their telephone# 703-998-8824.

town University hospital also has a very reputable pain clinic.

I know its far, but you can take a train into DC which is nice. A lot of

people travel to get to these guys.

good luck.

wendy

Re: For Dave

Hi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a long time since I had emailed

you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville, what a small

world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and my

mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and

Joannie Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene

& amp; Vera Blackwell in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were

distant cousins? I live in Upper Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between

Philadelphia and town.

You may remember, but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from

C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my pain is not as heart stopping painful as

it was prior to the surgery, the pain is relentless 24/7. My neck,

primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in my right shoulder

which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2 shoulder

surgeons, my neck surgeon & amp; pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my

daytime pain management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have

to work full time in order for our family to have health insurance

and can't take the Vicodin or Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2

Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not until @7:30 along with

my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin & amp; Elevil and

still

can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a night

from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use

it at night if I could (toss and turn too much).

My problem is that my pain doc. at Temple University will no longer

prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management has made a decision

that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than 2weeks

before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in

C3, C4 & amp; C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my

right shoulder was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he

said he will no longer do any more injections as I don't benefit from

them. I was told to have my family doc. prescribe my pain meds.

Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't prescribe any

narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you need

to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I

treated with for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is

not compfortable doing injections either nor will they do just

medical management ( I was told the same thing by 3 other pain mgmt

groups).

So, would you have any advice/suggestions either how to find a doctor

that will help me manage my pain who is not just a pill pusher? Any

suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.

Thanks for lending an ear.

Sandi

& gt;

& gt; & gt;Dave,

& gt; & gt;I have posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked

& gt; & gt;something about trigger finger, reported about my failed second

& gt; & gt;epidural and then shared a personal loss about my brother (not to

& gt; & gt;mention several other emails) and I have not received one

response.

& gt; & gt; is the only one that " notices " me, and I reply to

others'

posts.

& gt; & gt;Is there something that I am doing wrong?

& gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt;

& gt;

& gt; You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a

& gt; couple of days of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry

if

& gt; I had nothing I could relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are

& gt; getting through to me, so I assume they are getting through to

& gt; others. I think that also with summer, and end of school, people

may

& gt; not be as active on their computers. If there is something I can

& gt; have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave

& gt;

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thank you for the information; i just moved to fredericksburg, va and I called

them-they have an office about 2 miles from my home. they are going to review

my records and hopefully I will become a patient of theirs. :)

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neck pain@...: wendy.tom@...: Fri, 6

Jun 2008 15:19:46 -0400Subject: RE: Re: For Dave

sorry I meant to address this to Sandi. Re: For DaveHi Dave, this is Sandi. It has been a

long time since I had emailed you. I just noticed that you lived in Frackville,

what a small world! My father Andracavage was born and raised there and

my mother (Ruth Wesner) from Long Row. My cousins, Andracavage and Joannie

Welch still live in Long Row/Gilberton, other cousins, Eugene & Vera Blackwell

in Frackville. Wouldn't it be funny if we were distant cousins? I live in Upper

Gwynedd/Lansdale, which is between Philadelphia and town.You may remember,

but probably not, that I had discectomy/fusion from C2-C6 in 4/05. Although my

pain is not as heart stopping painful as it was prior to the surgery, the pain

is relentless 24/7. My neck, primarily right side, is always sore/stiff, pain in

my right shoulder which I had a MRI of and nothing is wrong (was reviewed by 2

shoulder surgeons, my neck surgeon & pain doc). My pain doc has prescribed

Vicodin (500mg) every 4-6hrs, 2 Neurontin (300mg)4x/day, for my daytime pain

management. Unfortunately, like many others, I too have to work full time in

order for our family to have health insurance and can't take the Vicodin or

Neurontin as prescribed. I take 1/2 Vicodin after I arrive at work, and then not

until @7:30 along with my nightly " cocktail " of Neurontin, Soma, Vicodin &

Elevil and still can't fall asleep before 11:30 or so and then I am up 5-8x a

night from the pain. I use my tens unit almost all day, would probably use it at

night if I could (toss and turn too much).My problem is that my pain doc. at

Temple University will no longer prescribe my pain meds. Temple pain management

has made a decision that they will no longer prescribe pain meds. for more than

2weeks before a procedure and 2 weeks afterwards. After facet injections in C3,

C4 & C5, I really didn't have any relief, as a matter of fact, my right shoulder

was so painful, I couldn't move it for 4 days. Now he said he will no longer do

any more injections as I don't benefit from them. I was told to have my family

doc. prescribe my pain meds. Sounds simple enough, right? NOPE! Family doc won't

prescribe any narcotics and no pain meds for me for chronic pain because " you

need to be treated by a pain specialist " . No kidding! A pain doc. I treated with

for 5yrs prior to my surgery will not help me b/c he is not compfortable doing

injections either nor will they do just medical management ( I was told the same

thing by 3 other pain mgmt groups).So, would you have any advice/suggestions

either how to find a doctor that will help me manage my pain who is not just a

pill pusher? Any suggestions for medications that may be beneficial? I have been

dealing with this for almost 11yrs and it really has me worn down.Thanks for

lending an ear.Sandi> > >Dave,> >I have

posted about 4 times in the last week: to others, asked > >something about

trigger finger, reported about my failed second > >epidural and then shared a

personal loss about my brother (not to > >mention several other emails) and I

have not received one response. > > is the only one that " notices " me, and

I reply to others' posts.> >Is there something that I am doing wrong?> >> >> >

You are not doing anything wrong. I know for myself, I've had a > couple of days

of no sleep so I barely check my e-mail. I'm sorry if > I had nothing I could

relate to, to reply with. Your e-mails are > getting through to me, so I assume

they are getting through to > others. I think that also with summer, and end of

school, people may > not be as active on their computers. If there is something

I can > have an answer to I will certainly try to reply, sorry, Dave>[Non-text

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