Re: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

[Guest guest]

Yes, I feel like this, but just sometimes. When that happens, I take some extra

A-F Betafood tablets and, so far, it's always solved the problem.

Amber

My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB area that is chronic. It's

been there for

about 5 months now. I also experience general fullness under the ribs. I'm not

in severe pain,

it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my GB does not work.

elizabeth

.

[Guest guest]

have you done a cleanse?

Jay

----- Original Message ----

From: icbluu <icbluu@...>

gallstones

Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:17:02 AM

Subject: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

I was one of the people on this board diagnosed with low

functioning GB-ejection at 16%. No

stones or sludge seen on multiple tests. I am trying to avoid surgery and have

been seeing

Naturpath doctor and doing acupuncture. I take a bunch of supplements, chinese

herbs and

diet is super clean with alot of fiber.

My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB area that is chronic. It's

been there for

about 5 months now. I also experience general fullness under the ribs. I'm not

in severe pain,

it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my GB does not work.

I am wondering if any of you had the same type of pain and what kind of things

helped if

any. It's hard for me to imagine that I will have to live with this for the rest

of my life...

thanks in advance

elizabeth

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[Guest guest]

I have not tried a cleanse-only because I was told I didn't have stones or

sludge, just a

" lazy " gallbladder. Did you have same condition and found a cleanse to help?

thanks

>

> have you done a cleanse?

>

> Jay

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: icbluu <icbluu@...>

> gallstones

> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:17:02 AM

> Subject: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

>

> I was one of the people on this board diagnosed with low

functioning GB-

ejection at 16%. No

> stones or sludge seen on multiple tests. I am trying to avoid surgery and have

been

seeing

> Naturpath doctor and doing acupuncture. I take a bunch of supplements, chinese

herbs

and

> diet is super clean with alot of fiber.

> My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB area that is chronic. It's

been there

for

> about 5 months now. I also experience general fullness under the ribs. I'm not

in severe

pain,

> it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my GB does not work.

> I am wondering if any of you had the same type of pain and what kind of things

helped

if

> any. It's hard for me to imagine that I will have to live with this for the

rest of my life...

> thanks in advance

> elizabeth

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Just curious as to what A-F Betafood tablets are and what they do.

I am currently on a regimen of Glycine & Taurine (to thin the bile), whole B,

Lipase, C, cod

liver oil, but so far nothing is helping...

>

> Yes, I feel like this, but just sometimes. When that happens, I take some

extra A-F

Betafood tablets and, so far, it's always solved the problem.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

>

>

> My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB area that is chronic.

It's been there

for

> about 5 months now. I also experience general fullness under the ribs. I'm

not in

severe pain,

> it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my GB does not work.

> elizabeth

>

>

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's a product from Standard Process Labs. All their supplements are made from

food. A-F Betafood is a proprietary blend of: carrot root, dried beet leaf

juice, beet root, oat flour, calcium lactate, defatted wheat germ, magnesium

citrate, bovine prostate, nutritional yeast, bovine liver, bovine kidney,

alfalfa flour, bovine orchic extract, bovine liver fat extract, flaxseed oil

extract, mixed tocopherols (soy), and soybean lecithin. Yum. Whew, had to use

a magnifying glass to read and type all that.

Amber

Just curious as to what A-F Betafood tablets are and what they do.

I am currently on a regimen of Glycine & Taurine (to thin the bile), whole B,

Lipase, C, cod

liver oil, but so far nothing is helping...

.

[Guest guest]

Hi elizabeth:

Regarding " My problem is that I have point tenderness

over GB area that is chronic. It's been there for

about 5 months now. I also experience general

fullness under the ribs. I'm not in severe pain,

it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my

GB does not work "

I have the same kind of problem. I;am taking A-F beta

food supplements too.

But when drink the Orgaic Aloe-Vera juice I get some

relief.

Thanks ,

Rajesh

--- icbluu <icbluu@...> wrote:

> I was one of the people on this board diagnosed with

> low functioning GB-ejection at 16%. No

> stones or sludge seen on multiple tests. I am trying

> to avoid surgery and have been seeing

> Naturpath doctor and doing acupuncture. I take a

> bunch of supplements, chinese herbs and

> diet is super clean with alot of fiber.

> My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB

> area that is chronic. It's been there for

> about 5 months now. I also experience general

> fullness under the ribs. I'm not in severe pain,

> it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my

> GB does not work.

> I am wondering if any of you had the same type of

> pain and what kind of things helped if

> any. It's hard for me to imagine that I will have to

> live with this for the rest of my life...

> thanks in advance

> elizabeth

>

>

[Guest guest]

just do it

----- Original Message ----

From: icbluu <icbluu@...>

gallstones

Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:36:41 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

I have not tried a cleanse-only because I was told I didn't

have stones or sludge, just a

" lazy " gallbladder. Did you have same condition and found a cleanse to help?

thanks

>

> have you done a cleanse?

>

> Jay

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: icbluu <icbluu@...>

> gallstones@gro ups.com

> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:17:02 AM

> Subject: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

>

> I was one of the people on this board diagnosed with low

functioning GB-

ejection at 16%. No

> stones or sludge seen on multiple tests. I am trying to avoid surgery and have

been

seeing

> Naturpath doctor and doing acupuncture. I take a bunch of supplements, chinese

herbs

and

> diet is super clean with alot of fiber.

> My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB area that is chronic. It's

been there

for

> about 5 months now. I also experience general fullness under the ribs. I'm not

in severe

pain,

> it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my GB does not work.

> I am wondering if any of you had the same type of pain and what kind of things

helped

if

> any. It's hard for me to imagine that I will have to live with this for the

rest of my life...

> thanks in advance

> elizabeth

>

>

>

>

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Amber,

Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.

elizabeth

>

> It's a product from Standard Process Labs. All their supplements are made

from food.

A-F Betafood is a proprietary blend of: carrot root, dried beet leaf juice,

beet root, oat

flour, calcium lactate, defatted wheat germ, magnesium citrate, bovine prostate,

nutritional yeast, bovine liver, bovine kidney, alfalfa flour, bovine orchic

extract, bovine

liver fat extract, flaxseed oil extract, mixed tocopherols (soy), and soybean

lecithin. Yum.

Whew, had to use a magnifying glass to read and type all that.

>

> Amber

>

>

>

>

> Just curious as to what A-F Betafood tablets are and what they do.

> I am currently on a regimen of Glycine & Taurine (to thin the bile), whole

B, Lipase, C,

cod

> liver oil, but so far nothing is helping...

>

>

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, what a helpful reply!

> >

> > have you done a cleanse?

> >

> > Jay

> >

> > ----- Original Message ----

> > From: icbluu <icbluu@>

> > gallstones@gro ups.com

> > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:17:02 AM

> > Subject: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

> >

> > I was one of the people on this board diagnosed with low

functioning GB-

> ejection at 16%. No

> > stones or sludge seen on multiple tests. I am trying to avoid surgery and

have been

> seeing

> > Naturpath doctor and doing acupuncture. I take a bunch of supplements,

chinese

herbs

> and

> > diet is super clean with alot of fiber.

> > My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB area that is chronic.

It's been there

> for

> > about 5 months now. I also experience general fullness under the ribs. I'm

not in

severe

> pain,

> > it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my GB does not work.

> > I am wondering if any of you had the same type of pain and what kind of

things

helped

> if

> > any. It's hard for me to imagine that I will have to live with this for the

rest of my

life...

> > thanks in advance

> > elizabeth

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Have you tried using Cayenne to increase blood flow to the liver? It sounds

as if something may be stagnant in your liver.

Just a thought.

Tara

-----Original Message-----

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ]On

Behalf Of Sridevi Rajesh

Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:09 PM

gallstones

Subject: Re: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

Hi elizabeth:

Regarding " My problem is that I have point tenderness

over GB area that is chronic. It's been there for

about 5 months now. I also experience general

fullness under the ribs. I'm not in severe pain,

it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my

GB does not work "

I have the same kind of problem. I;am taking A-F beta

food supplements too.

But when drink the Orgaic Aloe-Vera juice I get some

relief.

Thanks ,

Rajesh

--- icbluu <icbluu@...> wrote:

> I was one of the people on this board diagnosed with

> low functioning GB-ejection at 16%. No

> stones or sludge seen on multiple tests. I am trying

> to avoid surgery and have been seeing

> Naturpath doctor and doing acupuncture. I take a

> bunch of supplements, chinese herbs and

> diet is super clean with alot of fiber.

> My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB

> area that is chronic. It's been there for

> about 5 months now. I also experience general

> fullness under the ribs. I'm not in severe pain,

> it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my

> GB does not work.

> I am wondering if any of you had the same type of

> pain and what kind of things helped if

> any. It's hard for me to imagine that I will have to

> live with this for the rest of my life...

> thanks in advance

> elizabeth

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > just do it

Hi ,

Why not just try doing a cleanse? It's really not that difficult to

do, and it's an incredible purge. It's an amazing feeling really, and

what if you did one and realized that you actually did have some

blockage in your gall bladder and/or liver, and you saw sludge and

stones pass out of your body? And what if doing something so simple,

so inexpensive and so cleansing actually helped to ease your pain?

Just because no stones or sludge showed up on your tests, doesn't

necessarily mean none of this stuff is inside of you. Why not give

this cleanse a bash and see what you see?

Would you at least consider giving a liver flush a try? It's really a

very powerful and effective internal cleansing technique, and if you

do it, you might actually end up being surprised, and maybe even

amazed at what comes out of you.

HTH,

elan

[Guest guest]

what do you want - cookies and ice cream? This has all been discussed ad

nauseum. So if you want indepth touchie feelie recommendations, do the research

here. But all the findings will say the same outcome - just do it.

Jay

----- Original Message ----

From: icbluu <icbluu@...>

gallstones

Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:21:15 PM

Subject: Re: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

Wow, what a helpful reply!

> >

> > have you done a cleanse?

> >

> > Jay

> >

> > ----- Original Message ----

> > From: icbluu <icbluu@>

> > gallstones@gro ups.com

> > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:17:02 AM

> > Subject: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

> >

> > I was one of the people on this board diagnosed with low

functioning GB-

> ejection at 16%. No

> > stones or sludge seen on multiple tests. I am trying to avoid surgery and

have been

> seeing

> > Naturpath doctor and doing acupuncture. I take a bunch of supplements,

chinese

herbs

> and

> > diet is super clean with alot of fiber.

> > My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB area that is chronic.

It's been there

> for

> > about 5 months now. I also experience general fullness under the ribs. I'm

not in

severe

> pain,

> > it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my GB does not work.

> > I am wondering if any of you had the same type of pain and what kind of

things

helped

> if

> > any. It's hard for me to imagine that I will have to live with this for the

rest of my

life...

> > thanks in advance

> > elizabeth

> >

> >

> >

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----- Original Message ----

From: elan_spire <elan_spire@...>

gallstones

Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:27:40 PM

Subject: Re: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

> >

> > just do it

Hi ,

Why not just try doing a cleanse? It's really not that difficult to

do, and it's an incredible purge. It's an amazing feeling really, and

what if you did one and realized that you actually did have some

blockage in your gall bladder and/or liver, and you saw sludge and

stones pass out of your body? And what if doing something so simple,

so inexpensive and so cleansing actually helped to ease your pain?

Just because no stones or sludge showed up on your tests, doesn't

necessarily mean none of this stuff is inside of you. Why not give

this cleanse a bash and see what you see?

Would you at least consider giving a liver flush a try? It's really a

very powerful and effective internal cleansing technique, and if you

do it, you might actually end up being surprised, and maybe even

amazed at what comes out of you.

HTH,

elan

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when I do my flushes - the first morning of the flush I feel tired because of

what is going on, then I sleep some, arise, then I feel really energetic for

many days...kind of like returning from a vacation, then it slowly wears

off...and time to do it again..

Jay

----- Original Message ----

From: Tara Belderok <fil@...>

gallstones

Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:36:01 PM

Subject: RE: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

Have you tried using Cayenne to increase blood flow to the

liver? It sounds

as if something may be stagnant in your liver.

Just a thought.

Tara

-----Original Message-----

From: gallstones@gro ups.com [mailto:gallstones@gro ups.com]On

Behalf Of Sridevi Rajesh

Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:09 PM

gallstones@gro ups.com

Subject: Re: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

Hi elizabeth:

Regarding " My problem is that I have point tenderness

over GB area that is chronic. It's been there for

about 5 months now. I also experience general

fullness under the ribs. I'm not in severe pain,

it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my

GB does not work "

I have the same kind of problem. I;am taking A-F beta

food supplements too.

But when drink the Orgaic Aloe-Vera juice I get some

relief.

Thanks ,

Rajesh

--- icbluu <icbluu (DOT) com> wrote:

> I was one of the people on this board diagnosed with

> low functioning GB-ejection at 16%. No

> stones or sludge seen on multiple tests. I am trying

> to avoid surgery and have been seeing

> Naturpath doctor and doing acupuncture. I take a

> bunch of supplements, chinese herbs and

> diet is super clean with alot of fiber.

> My problem is that I have point tenderness over GB

> area that is chronic. It's been there for

> about 5 months now. I also experience general

> fullness under the ribs. I'm not in severe pain,

> it's more of a daily annoyance and reminder that my

> GB does not work.

> I am wondering if any of you had the same type of

> pain and what kind of things helped if

> any. It's hard for me to imagine that I will have to

> live with this for the rest of my life...

> thanks in advance

> elizabeth

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not at all opposed to doing a flush-I was just curious to hear

other people's experiences that have the same gallbladder problems as I do.

Telling me to " just do it " is not very helpful or insightful. I am trying to

educate myself

about the gallbladder and alternative methods of healing.

> > >

> > > just do it

>

> Hi ,

>

> Why not just try doing a cleanse? It's really not that difficult to

> do, and it's an incredible purge. It's an amazing feeling really, and

> what if you did one and realized that you actually did have some

> blockage in your gall bladder and/or liver, and you saw sludge and

> stones pass out of your body? And what if doing something so simple,

> so inexpensive and so cleansing actually helped to ease your pain?

>

> Just because no stones or sludge showed up on your tests, doesn't

> necessarily mean none of this stuff is inside of you. Why not give

> this cleanse a bash and see what you see?

>

> Would you at least consider giving a liver flush a try? It's really a

> very powerful and effective internal cleansing technique, and if you

> do it, you might actually end up being surprised, and maybe even

> amazed at what comes out of you.

>

> HTH,

>

> elan

>

>

>

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Hi icbluu,

I'm mike t. and I have had similar pains for 5 years. I believe the pain is

just part of a low functioning gallbladder. I find I have the most trouble when

trying to sleep between 3 AM and 5AM. It is not uncommon for me to wake up at

this time. My gallbladder is trying to function at this time. I have found

that my control over food is limited to low amounts of fats, lots of fruits and

veggies, small amounts of meats, dairy and anything with sugar, cholesterol,

caffiene, alcohol or any other kind of drink. I end up drinking a lot more

water. Exercise and plenty of sleep is helping me. I stay away from medication

and suppliments. As long as I control the food I eat, I do well. I believe

flushes and gallbadder suppliments are good. I have tried doing both. I am not

in a hurry to cure my gallbladder. It took years to get into trouble and I am

not looking for a quick fix. But I don't want to cut it out unless it becomes a

health problem. I keep my weight down

and that has helped some. But most of all, the information on the site and the

discussions within the group are a great help. Good luck. mike t.

icbluu <icbluu@...> wrote:

I'm not at all opposed to doing a flush-I was just curious to hear

other people's experiences that have the same gallbladder problems as I do.

Telling me to " just do it " is not very helpful or insightful. I am trying to

educate myself

about the gallbladder and alternative methods of healing.

> > >

> > > just do it

>

> Hi ,

>

> Why not just try doing a cleanse? It's really not that difficult to

> do, and it's an incredible purge. It's an amazing feeling really, and

> what if you did one and realized that you actually did have some

> blockage in your gall bladder and/or liver, and you saw sludge and

> stones pass out of your body? And what if doing something so simple,

> so inexpensive and so cleansing actually helped to ease your pain?

>

> Just because no stones or sludge showed up on your tests, doesn't

> necessarily mean none of this stuff is inside of you. Why not give

> this cleanse a bash and see what you see?

>

> Would you at least consider giving a liver flush a try? It's really a

> very powerful and effective internal cleansing technique, and if you

> do it, you might actually end up being surprised, and maybe even

> amazed at what comes out of you.

>

> HTH,

>

> elan

>

>

>

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I have the same full feeling all the time too. I have done the

cleanse about 15 times. I passed tons of " stones " but never felt much

different.

greg

>

> I'm not at all opposed to doing a flush-I was just curious to hear

> other people's experiences that have the same gallbladder problems

as I do.

> Telling me to " just do it " is not very helpful or insightful. I am

trying to educate myself

> about the gallbladder and alternative methods of healing.

[Guest guest]

icbluu,

I've been on this list since November I believe and

have asked all of the same questions and I really

haven't gotten any direct answers. From the answers I

have been able to gather no one has confimed that they

have done flushes, or anything else, and then gotten a

follow-up ultrasound which confirmed less stones.

I think the line of thinking on this board is that if

there are no symptoms then there are no problems.

--- icbluu <icbluu@...> wrote:

> I'm not at all opposed to doing a flush-I was just

> curious to hearicbluu

> other people's experiences that have the same

> gallbladder problems as I do.

> Telling me to " just do it " is not very helpful or

> insightful. I am trying to educate myself

> about the gallbladder and alternative methods of

> healing.

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > just do it

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Why not just try doing a cleanse? It's really not

> that difficult to

> > do, and it's an incredible purge. It's an amazing

> feeling really, and

> > what if you did one and realized that you actually

> did have some

> > blockage in your gall bladder and/or liver, and

> you saw sludge and

> > stones pass out of your body? And what if doing

> something so simple,

> > so inexpensive and so cleansing actually helped to

> ease your pain?

> >

> > Just because no stones or sludge showed up on your

> tests, doesn't

> > necessarily mean none of this stuff is inside of

> you. Why not give

> > this cleanse a bash and see what you see?

> >

> > Would you at least consider giving a liver flush a

> try? It's really a

> > very powerful and effective internal cleansing

> technique, and if you

> > do it, you might actually end up being surprised,

> and maybe even

> > amazed at what comes out of you.

> >

> > HTH,

> >

> > elan

> >

> >

> >

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has anyone ever tried homeopathy? I am considering trying it.

7774 <tanya7774@...> wrote: icbluu,

I've been on this list since November I believe and

have asked all of the same questions and I really

haven't gotten any direct answers. From the answers I

have been able to gather no one has confimed that they

have done flushes, or anything else, and then gotten a

follow-up ultrasound which confirmed less stones.

I think the line of thinking on this board is that if

there are no symptoms then there are no problems.

--- icbluu <icbluu@...> wrote:

> I'm not at all opposed to doing a flush-I was just

> curious to hearicbluu

> other people's experiences that have the same

> gallbladder problems as I do.

> Telling me to " just do it " is not very helpful or

> insightful. I am trying to educate myself

> about the gallbladder and alternative methods of

> healing.

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > just do it

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Why not just try doing a cleanse? It's really not

> that difficult to

> > do, and it's an incredible purge. It's an amazing

> feeling really, and

> > what if you did one and realized that you actually

> did have some

> > blockage in your gall bladder and/or liver, and

> you saw sludge and

> > stones pass out of your body? And what if doing

> something so simple,

> > so inexpensive and so cleansing actually helped to

> ease your pain?

> >

> > Just because no stones or sludge showed up on your

> tests, doesn't

> > necessarily mean none of this stuff is inside of

> you. Why not give

> > this cleanse a bash and see what you see?

> >

> > Would you at least consider giving a liver flush a

> try? It's really a

> > very powerful and effective internal cleansing

> technique, and if you

> > do it, you might actually end up being surprised,

> and maybe even

> > amazed at what comes out of you.

> >

> > HTH,

> >

> > elan

> >

> >

> >

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My first and only GB attack occurred 3/12/06, so I'm almost to my 2 year

anniversary. I did 3 flushes in the beginning and passed stones daily for a

year. Then it tapered down. I'm not passing any now. I had a sonogram in the

beginning and the technician said I had " innumerable " stones. I had a second

sonogram after passing hundreds of stones and was given the same result. I

asked my doctor about it and he told me that the body continues to make stones.

I've learned what I can and cannot eat. If I feel any discomfort in the GB

area, I take extra A-F Betafood and, so far, that has solved my problem. As

long as I'm not having any pain, I think I'm not going to worry about it any

more. I hope this helps.

Amber

I've been on this list since November I believe and

have asked all of the same questions and I really

haven't gotten any direct answers. From the answers I

have been able to gather no one has confimed that they

have done flushes, or anything else, and then gotten a

follow-up ultrasound which confirmed less stones.

.

[Guest guest]

I have not done a flush yet.

To get rid of the pain and fullness feeling I have done Castor Oil packs

over the gallbladder area; and Quercetin with Bromelain (for inflammation);

I take Super Enzymes by NOW; from Standard Process I take Cholocol 2 and A-F

Beta food; I also started a Chinese herb called Soothe Liver; plus several

other supplements in addition to being more careful about what I eat. I have

been muscle tested by a nutritionist for the amounts and frequencies so that

everything I take is exactly what my body needs. I have not had a

gallbladder attack since I've been seeing her, nor have I had any more pain

or fullness feelings. The only thing missing is an exercise program - which

I know is really important, I just need to get there.

I have been reluctant to do the flush because of nursing, being sleep

deprived chronically, and the fasting and everything. When I was actually in

much pain, I did the packs daily (now I only do it about once a week) and

took more Quercitin than I am taking now. The Soothe Liver and Cholocol 2

and A-F Beta Food have also been adjusted down since my last attack.

Regards,

cynthia

[Guest guest]

My nutritionist also muscle tests me and I've been able to tone down the number

of supplements I had been taking because of those results. Very interesting. I

don't understand why you would do any fasting if you are nursing. As far as

exercise goes, I've read that we just need to find something that we really

enjoy doing. I used to do many different things but have recently streamlined

it down to Pilates and the Rebounder. And when our weather cooperates, riding

my horse and walking outdoors.

Amber

I have

been muscle tested by a nutritionist for the amounts and frequencies so that

everything I take is exactly what my body needs. I have not had a

gallbladder attack since I've been seeing her, nor have I had any more pain

or fullness feelings. The only thing missing is an exercise program - which

I know is really important, I just need to get there.

I have been reluctant to do the flush because of nursing, being sleep

deprived chronically, and the fasting and everything.

cynthia

.

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I would say the opposite - do the flushes whether you have symptoms or not.

Previously there was a gentleman on this site named 'Will'. I have not seen him

post for maybe 2 years. He had al ot of information - you can research his

posts, very knowledgeable. I have been doing my cleansings for 10 years., benn

on here for 4 -5 years I still subscribed to this listing for the fun of it. I

previously took the herbs but now I just flush regularly.

Jay

----- Original Message ----

From: 7774 <tanya7774@...>

gallstones

Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 10:58:17 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

icbluu,

I've been on this list since November I believe and

have asked all of the same questions and I really

haven't gotten any direct answers. From the answers I

have been able to gather no one has confimed that they

have done flushes, or anything else, and then gotten a

follow-up ultrasound which confirmed less stones.

I think the line of thinking on this board is that if

there are no symptoms then there are no problems.

--- icbluu <icbluu (DOT) com> wrote:

> I'm not at all opposed to doing a flush-I was just

> curious to hearicbluu

> other people's experiences that have the same

> gallbladder problems as I do.

> Telling me to " just do it " is not very helpful or

> insightful. I am trying to educate myself

> about the gallbladder and alternative methods of

> healing.

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > just do it

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Why not just try doing a cleanse? It's really not

> that difficult to

> > do, and it's an incredible purge. It's an amazing

> feeling really, and

> > what if you did one and realized that you actually

> did have some

> > blockage in your gall bladder and/or liver, and

> you saw sludge and

> > stones pass out of your body? And what if doing

> something so simple,

> > so inexpensive and so cleansing actually helped to

> ease your pain?

> >

> > Just because no stones or sludge showed up on your

> tests, doesn't

> > necessarily mean none of this stuff is inside of

> you. Why not give

> > this cleanse a bash and see what you see?

> >

> > Would you at least consider giving a liver flush a

> try? It's really a

> > very powerful and effective internal cleansing

> technique, and if you

> > do it, you might actually end up being surprised,

> and maybe even

> > amazed at what comes out of you.

> >

> > HTH,

> >

> > elan

> >

> >

> >

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I'd love some cookies and ice cream Jay, how nice of you to ask. Unfortunately

I'm told that

cookies and ice cream are not the best things for my gallbladder at the

moment...

I was under the impression that this board is for people to DISCUSS and SHARE

their

personal experiences with natural methods of healing their gallbladders. I am

fairly new to

the group so maybe it's ad nauseum to you, but not to me. So thank you to

everyone else

who was kind enough to share their experiences.

" In conjunction with its partner organ, the gall bladder, the liver acts as a

decision-maker.

In addition, the liver is associated with warmth and kindness on the positive

end of the

emotional spectrum and anger and hostility on the negative. "

I'd say you are on the negative end of the spectrum????

> >

> > just do it

[Guest guest]

there are alternatives to ice cream - plus you can have a little ice cream -

sherbet, rice cream, etc. You can research what has been said here and come up

to speed quickly. Look up articles by Will.

Jay

----- Original Message ----

From: icbluu <icbluu@...>

gallstones

Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2008 10:18:34 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone else experience chronic pain?

I'd love some cookies and ice cream Jay, how nice of you to

ask. Unfortunately I'm told that

cookies and ice cream are not the best things for my gallbladder at the

moment...

I was under the impression that this board is for people to DISCUSS and SHARE

their

personal experiences with natural methods of healing their gallbladders. I am

fairly new to

the group so maybe it's ad nauseum to you, but not to me. So thank you to

everyone else

who was kind enough to share their experiences.

" In conjunction with its partner organ, the gall bladder, the liver acts as a

decision-maker.

In addition, the liver is associated with warmth and kindness on the positive

end of the

emotional spectrum and anger and hostility on the negative. "

I'd say you are on the negative end of the spectrum????

> >

> > just do it

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