Re: Newbie with Question on Liver/Gallbladder Flush

February 25, 2008

Sleepless,

In all of my experiences of having gallstone attacks

(6+), they have come on pretty quickly rathern then

building up slowly like you described. It was like

one minute I was fine and then the next 'boom' it felt

like I was having what I can only imagine a heart

attack feels like. That's not to say what your

experiencing is not stone related, but I would think

if it's constant that you may want to head to the Dr.

just to be looked at. If you're skin yellows you

really should get to the Dr. ASAP as this is not one

of the early signs to watch for. In all of my attacks

that had never happened, thankfully. If you try the

flush and it gets worse or dosn't resolve I would also

head to the Dr. I was told if I had an attack that

didn't let up that I should just go to the ER. I

can't give advice on the best flush as I've not done

any. Also, which side of your abdomen is the ache on?

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February 25, 2008

Some people advise that instead of going to the doctor when you think

there might be an obstruction, that taking epsom salts with water will

quickly help the situation. Much better than getting an important

organ cut out of your body!

February 25, 2008

Just because you go to the Dr. doesn't mean you have

to immeditely have surgery. What if she went to the

Dr. and it was something completely different?

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February 25, 2008

I have changed my whole way of thinking in the last year or so. Like

most Americans, I use to rush to the doctor with ailments and I got

the standard fix of a prescription medicine or a surgery.

Doctors are not trained to help you resolve problems the natural way

or more importantly, to help you prevent problems. They try to fix

things on the back end rather than the front end. In many cases,

they are not fixing anything. They are suppressing symptoms or doing

unnecessary surgeries. In fact in many cases, the surgeries and/or

medicines do more harm than good.

It is an absolute crime what we are putting into our bodies in terms

of food, drink, and medicines. We then hope that when things go bad

that the medical profession can bail us out which usually doen't work

very well.

I am absolutley convinced that the vast majority of our ailments are

due to what we put into our bodies. So let's say that we are past

that point and we think that we need medical treatment. My advice

would be to be careful and not immediately accept what a doctor tells

you. Is it really an emergency? What are my options? What happens

if I don't take the medicine or do the surgery? Don't be so quick to

do whatever the doctor says. Medicines or surgeries should be an

absolute last resort.

I have had two unnecessary surgeries and countless antibiotics that I

should not have had. I am having side-effects from one of the

unnecessary surgeries. And the antibiotics are probably causing my

candida problems that I am addressing now. So many mistakes on my

part! Just ignorance...

February 25, 2008

--- Hi fjnie1234 :

I agree that doctors tend to work on the back end and process people

as a group rather than individuals. But and there is always

differing opinions, but in my opinion, I would not throw the baby out

with the bath water. I can not change my past or anyones who have

had bitter experiences. I had a middle ear infection that took five

years and a near death experience and most of my doctors thought I

was just making it up. It was a rare virus. But I recovered. And I

must say that some pretty good people helped me get over my past

experience. And I am not too quick to judge, but it is hard not to

see the medical system as being partly responisible. I try to work

with my doctors. Sometimes I walk away and join in where I think

there is an alternative or better advice. Mostly, I find the better

network and teamwork I can find the better. I think your opinion is

great, I have just had a different experience. Cheers. Mike t. In

gallstones , " fjnie1234 " <Fred.Niehaus@...> wrote:

>

> I have changed my whole way of thinking in the last year or so.

Like

> most Americans, I use to rush to the doctor with ailments and I got

> the standard fix of a prescription medicine or a surgery.

>

> Doctors are not trained to help you resolve problems the natural

way

> or more importantly, to help you prevent problems. They try to fix

> things on the back end rather than the front end. In many cases,

> they are not fixing anything. They are suppressing symptoms or

doing

> unnecessary surgeries. In fact in many cases, the surgeries and/or

> medicines do more harm than good.

>

> It is an absolute crime what we are putting into our bodies in

terms

> of food, drink, and medicines. We then hope that when things go

bad

> that the medical profession can bail us out which usually doen't

work

> very well.

>

> I am absolutley convinced that the vast majority of our ailments

are

> due to what we put into our bodies. So let's say that we are past

> that point and we think that we need medical treatment. My advice

> would be to be careful and not immediately accept what a doctor

tells

> you. Is it really an emergency? What are my options? What

happens

> if I don't take the medicine or do the surgery? Don't be so quick

to

> do whatever the doctor says. Medicines or surgeries should be an

> absolute last resort.

>

> I have had two unnecessary surgeries and countless antibiotics that

I

> should not have had. I am having side-effects from one of the

> unnecessary surgeries. And the antibiotics are probably causing my

> candida problems that I am addressing now. So many mistakes on my

> part! Just ignorance...

>

February 25, 2008

>I am absolutley convinced that the vast majority of our ailments are due to

what we put into our bodies. ... Don't be so quick to

do whatever the doctor says. Medicines or surgeries should be an

absolute last resort.>

I totally agree with you.

>And the antibiotics are probably causing my

candida problems that I am addressing now.>

No doubt about it.

Amber

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February 25, 2008

Let me tell you an interesting story. For years, I would get a

couple of sinus infections every year. I would also have trouble

getting over them. And the rest of the year I would sniffle and

clear my throat a lot. It really affected my quality of life.

My general practictioner, not knowing what to do, sent me to an

allergist. That is what GPs do.

The allergist was unable to detect any problems, so he prescribed

some medicine. It didn't work. But that is what allergists do.

So back to my GP. Not knowing what to do, he sent me to an ENT

specialist. The ENT specialist performed sinus surgery. It didn't

work. But that is what ENTs do.

Months later, I stumbled across some material by Dr. Weil

where he stated that the vast majority of his sinus sufferers did

much better when they cut back on their dairy intake. I tried it and

it worked! It was a miracle cure! Eight years later I consume very

little dairy and I haven't had a cold or sinus infection in years!

But unfortunately, the story doesn't end all good. Within days of

the sinus surgery, I returned for a followup visit with the ENT and

reported ringing in my ears. He shrugged his shoulders and offered

no explanation. Years later I read that sinus surgery is one of the

causes of ringing in the ears. I still have it and it seems to be

worse now for some reason. I am battling candida (possibly due to

all of the antibiotics I took for sinus). But I need to do some

research on the tinnitus to see if there is anything that I can do

about that.

February 25, 2008

Thought you might be interested in this.

http://www.marysherbs.com/heal/heal-erg.shtml

Tara

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