Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 The tan ones are definitely gallstones, the green ones will be debated fiercely for the next couple of weeks. Only store them in the freezer if you intend to consume them at a later date or have the money and would like to send them to a lab to verify the hotly contested biochemical makeup so we can put the issue to bed once and for all. Dale use to photograph his (Geeze, thanks a lot for that picture, Dale.). -dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Sponge<mailto:egroups@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:44 AM Subject: 150 stones today! Ok, so I did another cleanse this weekend and the results were quite visible. What should I do with these things? Store them in the freezer? Also, why are some of these stones smooth and other are jagged? Why are some green while others are tan? Why do I have to space these liver cleanses every two weeks? Is it dangerous to try and get ALL of the stones out at once? Thanks! Sponge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 If you want to save them, yes, store in a bag in the freezer. Otherwise, they will disintegrate. Amber Ok, so I did another cleanse this weekend and the results were quite visible. What should I do with these things? Store them in the freezer? Also, why are some of these stones smooth and other are jagged? Why are some green while others are tan? Why do I have to space these liver cleanses every two weeks? Is it dangerous to try and get ALL of the stones out at once? Thanks! Sponge . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 that is great, I have tried it twice and have gotten nothing, It has an opposite effect on me? dee **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I didn't realize there was a debate on where the green ones come from. Which organ are some people saying that the green ones come from? Thanks, Sponge Dave Shelden wrote: > The tan ones are definitely gallstones, the green ones will be debated fiercely for the next couple of weeks. Only store them in the freezer if you intend to consume them at a later date or have the money and would like to send them to a lab to verify the hotly contested biochemical makeup so we can put the issue to bed once and for all. Dale use to photograph his (Geeze, thanks a lot for that picture, Dale.). -dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sponge<mailto:egroups@...> > gallstones <mailto:gallstones > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:44 AM > Subject: 150 stones today! > > > Ok, so I did another cleanse this weekend and the results were quite > visible. What should I do with these things? Store them in the > freezer? Also, why are some of these stones smooth and other are > jagged? Why are some green while others are tan? Why do I have to > space these liver cleanses every two weeks? Is it dangerous to try and > get ALL of the stones out at once? > > Thanks! > > Sponge > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I read that they're supposed to be a soap-like substance created by the ingredients of the flush itself, and not gall stones at all. > > I didn't realize there was a debate on where the green ones come from. > Which organ are some people saying that the green ones come from? > > Thanks, > > Sponge > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Gee, I wonder what you are talking about? No reference here. Amber that is great, I have tried it twice and have gotten nothing, It has an opposite effect on me? dee . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Saponified olive oil. This is hotly debated. I don't care personally. Do symptoms subside? Does quality of life get better? If the answer is yes, who cares? -Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Sponge<mailto:egroups@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: 150 stones today! I didn't realize there was a debate on where the green ones come from. Which organ are some people saying that the green ones come from? Thanks, Sponge Dave Shelden wrote: > The tan ones are definitely gallstones, the green ones will be debated fiercely for the next couple of weeks. Only store them in the freezer if you intend to consume them at a later date or have the money and would like to send them to a lab to verify the hotly contested biochemical makeup so we can put the issue to bed once and for all. Dale use to photograph his (Geeze, thanks a lot for that picture, Dale.). -dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sponge<mailto:egroups@...<mailto:egroups@...>> > To: gallstones <mailto:gallstones ><mailto:gallstones@\ <mailto:gallstones >> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 10:44 AM > Subject: 150 stones today! > > > Ok, so I did another cleanse this weekend and the results were quite > visible. What should I do with these things? Store them in the > freezer? Also, why are some of these stones smooth and other are > jagged? Why are some green while others are tan? Why do I have to > space these liver cleanses every two weeks? Is it dangerous to try and > get ALL of the stones out at once? > > Thanks! > > Sponge > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 anyone ever notice that these conversations always go in circles. People come on and say they have stones after a cleansing, then someone comes on and says they are a soap like substance created by the ingredients of the flush itself...this is a repeatable circle. Also there once was a very smart and wise person on here, I have not seen him respond in a a few years - his name is 'Will'. If people want to research his responses you might find them interesting. Jay ----- Original Message ---- From: scottrlucado <srlucado@...> gallstones Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 11:27:51 AM Subject: Re: 150 stones today! I read that they're supposed to be a soap-like substance created by the ingredients of the flush itself, and not gall stones at all. > > I didn't realize there was a debate on where the green ones come from. > Which organ are some people saying that the green ones come from? > > Thanks, > > Sponge > > <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 We would all love to here from Will. Will, you still with us?. S.O.S. -D ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Grosflam<mailto:jgrosflam@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Re: 150 stones today! anyone ever notice that these conversations always go in circles. People come on and say they have stones after a cleansing, then someone comes on and says they are a soap like substance created by the ingredients of the flush itself...this is a repeatable circle. Also there once was a very smart and wise person on here, I have not seen him respond in a a few years - his name is 'Will'. If people want to research his responses you might find them interesting. Jay ----- Original Message ---- From: scottrlucado <srlucado@...<mailto:srlucado@...>> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 11:27:51 AM Subject: Re: 150 stones today! I read that they're supposed to be a soap-like substance created by the ingredients of the flush itself, and not gall stones at all. > > I didn't realize there was a debate on where the green ones come from. > Which organ are some people saying that the green ones come from? > > Thanks, > > Sponge > > <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} --> __________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com<http://tc.deals./tc/\ blockbuster/text5.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 This thing of going round and round about the oil being used to cause the formation of stones is blatantly wrong considering that there was the one person that reported from his father's experience as a pathologist what stones looked like and it was noted that they look like the one's posted in the photo area of this group's pictures. Then too at one time I had gotten a letter from a soap manufacture, and posted that letter here, he noted there would not be enough temperature nor time to make saponified oil within the time frame that this all happens. Plus there was the fact of the alkalinity needed to work the process. Next is the use of two other modalities to get stones to move out of the gallbladder and liver. Those are the use of colonics and a little electronic pulsing pill called a Sputnik. The Sputnik causes spasms and will kill pathogens in the intestines as well as spasm the liver and gallbladder to release stones. I got plenty of them when I used mine a number of years ago and had actually fasted before swallowing it so there was no oil from which to make a saponified stone from oil. http://www.parasiteremedies.com:80/research.html I also got plenty out when doing colonics by gulping down olive oil around two to three hours before the colonic, which might last for an hour to an hour and a half. The stones would usually show up towards the end of the sessions and could be easily noted because of their being on top of the water like little bobbers rather than rolling along under the water in the viewing glass. Dale We would all love to here from Will. Will, you still with us?. S.O.S. -D ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Grosflam<mailto:jgrosflam@...> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Re: 150 stones today! anyone ever notice that these conversations always go in circles. People come on and say they have stones after a cleansing, then someone comes on and says they are a soap like substance created by the ingredients of the flush itself...this is a repeatable circle. Also there once was a very smart and wise person on here, I have not seen him respond in a a few years - his name is 'Will'. If people want to research his responses you might find them interesting. Jay ----- Original Message ---- From: scottrlucado <srlucado@...<mailto:srlucado@...>> gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 11:27:51 AM Subject: Re: 150 stones today! I read that they're supposed to be a soap-like substance created by the ingredients of the flush itself, and not gall stones at all. > > I didn't realize there was a debate on where the green ones come from. > Which organ are some people saying that the green ones come from? > > Thanks, > > Sponge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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