RE: Re: what is the white stuff?

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I read that it could be a parasite...

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From: ontarioguy2334 <ontarioguy2334@...>

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Subject: Re: what is the white stuff?

Yep I agree Dave, fungus or maybe fungus and mucoid plaque together.

Either way its good that you got rid of it. You can look into a

mucoid plaque removal kit theres some on the market. I used Dr

with great sucess but only do it 2x a year since its

costly.

Brad

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> Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely). This is a very good

thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find someone capable

of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's eviction

time! -DDave

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Yeasts and funguses are parasites. Depending on what they look like it could

also be pin worms. Did I send the link to the blood parasites movie? -DDave

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it could cover the entire inner lining of the colon...google it...

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Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:02:04 AM

Subject: Re: what is the white stuff?

Brad, how do you know if you have mucoid plaque? What part of the

colon does it occupy? Thanks.

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> > Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely). This is a very good

> thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find someone

capable

> of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's eviction

> time! -DDave

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If it is, not a bad thing. keep in mind that the turn over of cells within yuor

digestive tract is on of the fastest in your body. It has to be. You have this

massive chemical process for the digestion of everything (hopefully) going on.

While we have protective mucousa (hopefully) the turn over of cells within the

digestive tract is as fast as anything. My new prayer for my colon, " please

turn over all the cells of the lining of my digestive tract quickly and in

perfect form. Thank you. " Bless all who entertain this group... -Dave Dave

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Very well put Amber- the book is brilliant but we all need to realize

that each and everyone of us is different in so many ways. I am

certain Ehert's ways worked for him but anyone trying anything so

radical needs to do so either under the supervision of a health care

practitioner. \\\\

On May 9, 2008, at 8:25 PM, Amber wrote:

> The picture on the cover is a little alarming. His eyes are

> frightening. I copied one review below. I have hypoglycemia and it

> sounds like anyone with this problem should not heed this book:

>

> Amber

>

> What this book preaches is starvation, pure and simple. This is a

> very old book, wherein the author makes many unsubstantiated glowing

> statements, and unfortunately many people, including myself, were

> drawn into the craze of attempting to find the " superior health "

> that Ehret promised, only to be left with broken health because of

> having done so. My first introduction to the book came about 1963,

> although I did not really try to live Ehret's recommendations fully

> until about 1966. Being young and gullible I took everything

> Professor Ehret said as absolutely true. This was a big mistake. I

> believe this book came very close to killing me, as I am already

> prone to low-blood sugar, without starving myself.

>

> .

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Crap. Literally. For those of you who are interested check out one of my

mentors and bibles, " Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management " By Dr. Bernard

Jensen. Bless that man. I don't care if you read the book, I just want you to

look at the pictures. Now while the pictures of mucoid plaque are impressive,

check out the pictures of the man who had come in with psoriasis over 95% of his

body and the seven day progression of photos dealing with the bowel. If this

below were true then that would mean that until you eat a diet high in fresh

vegetables and do colemas that it does not exist. Jensen was old school and at

his sanitarium in Escondido the above was the treatment. Not all people have

it. Wayne had over 20 pounds of it when they did the autopsy (died of

colon cancer). It may be that in the shedding process that a lot of mucous is

created in order to lubricate the impactions. If so, so be it. Considering

that colon cancer is the number 3 killer in America and given that the medical

establishments " treatment " for such and the likes of diverticulitis (and losis)

are chemical and surgical with no concern for the actual bowel health, I know

which experts I am going to follow. Always, in all ways, -DaveDave

gallstones@...: Fred.Niehaus@...: Mon, 12

May 2008 18:47:58 +0000Subject: Re: what is the white stuff?

I didn't realize until just now how controversial the idea of mucoid plaque is.

Just did a little surfing... Apparently, there is a strong contingent of people

who say that it does not exist until you use the products to remove it. This is

very dissappointing. Thoughts?> >> > Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely).

This is a very good> thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find

someone capable> of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's

eviction> time! -DDave> > > > > > gallstones@: helen_dehavilland@: Thu, 8

May 2008 00:25:15> +0000Subject: what is the white stuff?> > > > >

> > > > > I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of very>

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Psyllium

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From: ROBERT D MARILYN J DOUGHTY <herbladie@...>

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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:09:48 PM

Subject: Re: what is the white stuff?

I've known there was something going on with me for years because I'm always

constipated, even tho I eat lots and lots and veggies and fruits, drink lots of

fluids, etc. Do you recommend anything to get rid of the mucoid plaque that you

know works? Do you know if the oxy powder they're advertising works? Doesn't

say what's in Dr. 's stuff, and I don't think I need the whole nine

yards. Just something for the mucoid paque. I do colonics and hardly have

dairy. I also have done Hulda and Hannah Kroeger's stuff for years, so I

think I'm good except for this plaque stuff. At 58 all my blood levels are

great as well...cholesterol a little high at 224 from years of doing Atkins, but

it's coming down slowly from a good vegetarian diet with fish once or twice a

week. The good HDL is saving me there. Have you heard anything about the stuff

Brad has tried....Arise and Shine and Ejuva? Sounds really pricey to me.

Way too much info I'm sure, but I would like to get moving on this and just

don't know what to get.

Any info you can give me would be much appreciated!

Herbladie

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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:38 PM

Subject: RE: Re: what is the white stuff?

Crap. Literally. For those of you who are interested check out one of my

mentors and bibles, " Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management " By Dr. Bernard

Jensen. Bless that man. I don't care if you read the book, I just want you to

look at the pictures. Now while the pictures of mucoid plaque are impressive,

check out the pictures of the man who had come in with psoriasis over 95% of his

body and the seven day progression of photos dealing with the bowel.

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I can't believe that mucoid plaque turned out to be a scam. I have been telling

my friends and family about this stuff and now I am going to end up looking like

a fool. BillCheck out my professional blog

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gallstones@...: Fred.Niehaus@...: Tue, 13

May 2008 16:07:32 +0000Subject: Re: what is the white stuff?

Do we know that Wayne had 20 pounds of " regular " fecal matter or 20 pounds

of " mucoid plaque " ?There are a lot of sceptics about the liver/gb cleansing. But

I can give a first-hand testimony of my success with that.But with this whole

mucoid plaque thing, I am just starting to investigate. There seem to be even

more sceptics that claim that the products taken are what cause the yucky stuff

in the first place. Without the anti-plaque product, there is no plaque. What

evidence/experiences so we have in the alternative medicine world that would

help convince me on this?I try to keep an open mind. Not all " alternative "

approaches are valid. Whether we want to admit it or not, there are scams out

there, even in alternative medicine.Please don't misunderstand. I am not saying

the mucoid plaque thing is a scam. I am just trying to collect information in

order to make a decision. I am hoping that someone convinces me that it is in

fact valid. I am hoping that it is something that could help me.I am all ears at

this point! Thanks!> >> > Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely).

This is a very good> thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find

someone capable> of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's

eviction> time! -DDave> > > > > > gallstones@: helen_dehavilland@: Thu, 8

May 2008 00:25:15> +0000Subject: what is the white stuff?> > > > >

> > > > > I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of very>

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Fred,

I am in complete agreement with everything you have expressed below.

Special italics to the " there are scams out there, even in alternative

medicine " . Try dealing with a cancer naturally, if so, you are in for a ride in

the blender trying to dodge the blades. In the case of Wayne, it was

" impacted fecal matter " . This is not mucoid plaque. As I eluded to in my

response yesterday, it may be the administrations of such substances for the

supposed removal of " mucoid plaque " that stimulate the production of the

mucous... But it sure as, please pardon my immortal sick sense of humor and

equally as immortal command of French, sure as shit, not stimulating the black

fowl smelling offal that is encased in the mucoid. Check out Jensen's book when

you have a chance, it will change your life. Whether the mucoid plaque exists

before or if it is caused by the application of these substances is a moot point

like the " what are the green blobs made of " debate. Doesn't matter. The

questions are always, " Has my life improved? Do I feel better? Could this mean

I might live longer and more comfortably? etc. " . Take a look at the photos in

the book of the man with psoriasis. In 7 days of intestinal cleansing and

dietary changes, he goes from psoriasis over 95% of his body to approx. 5%.

Irrefutable. I had the pleasure of knowing Dr. Jensen personally. While his

writings with hold little teeth for the scientifically impaired (Me, but healing

slowly), The common sense will cut through the fog. I will address the issues

of mucoid plaque (if it exists) removal as a response to another post I just

read from Marilyn.

Always, in all ways,-Dave

gallstones@...: Fred.Niehaus@...: Tue, 13

May 2008 16:07:32 +0000Subject: Re: what is the white stuff?

Do we know that Wayne had 20 pounds of " regular " fecal matter or 20 pounds

of " mucoid plaque " ?There are a lot of sceptics about the liver/gb cleansing. But

I can give a first-hand testimony of my success with that.But with this whole

mucoid plaque thing, I am just starting to investigate. There seem to be even

more sceptics that claim that the products taken are what cause the yucky stuff

in the first place. Without the anti-plaque product, there is no plaque. What

evidence/experiences so we have in the alternative medicine world that would

help convince me on this?I try to keep an open mind. Not all " alternative "

approaches are valid. Whether we want to admit it or not, there are scams out

there, even in alternative medicine.Please don't misunderstand. I am not saying

the mucoid plaque thing is a scam. I am just trying to collect information in

order to make a decision. I am hoping that someone convinces me that it is in

fact valid. I am hoping that it is something that could help me.I am all ears at

this point! Thanks!> >> > Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely).

This is a very good> thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find

someone capable> of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's

eviction> time! -DDave> > > > > > gallstones@: helen_dehavilland@: Thu, 8

May 2008 00:25:15> +0000Subject: what is the white stuff?> > > > >

> > > > > I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of very>

white, almost stringy stuff is excreted. Does anyone know what this is? > > > >

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I tried to check out the Arise and Shine but they cloud the ingredient issue on

the website. Not a good sign for me. They have to list them by law on the

label but not on the website. Usually this is to lend an air of secrecy and

exclusivity and to keep you the consumer from comparing prices. I am sure it is

an excellent product, I just cannot tell whether it is unique. If you are

doing colonics you are engaging in about the best therapy for the colon I can

think of. If you still have impactions, then something like this would be in

order but I would still do a few more colonics at the same time because they can

really help in the removal.

Here are the basics of " intestinal cleansing " as I know it now:

Fiber: Both insoluble (like bran) which lends mechanical roughage to the

process, and soluble which swells with water adding bulk and thereby pressure to

the intestinal walls, and soaks up and binds fats. more soluble than insoluble

but lots of both.

laxative: Some type of peristaltic action enhancer like rhubarb, aloe, cascara,

etc. to help mechanically strip as well as move the fecal material through.

Lecithin: Lecithin is an emulsifier of fats and helps to break up the fatty

components of the impactions.

Bentonite clay: Bentonite has an attraction to the impactions and helps to draw

them off the walls of the intestines. The old standard cleanse system in the

health food stores is Sonnes. Sonnes 7 is psyllium seed and husk, Sonnes 9 is

bentonite in an aqueous suspension.

There are all sorts of other things that can be added for other specific reasons

to the base above.

Mucus is made from mainly polysaccharides and some proteins, which is what fiber

is. Jello. Your mucus membranes are also made of these polysaccharides as well

which is what your intestines are. Just like when you get a " runny nose " your

sinuses (mucus membranes) are producing a mucus discharge to eliminate something

out of the body, the same thing can happen in your intestines. So, as I said

early in response to the exists/doesn't exist issue, It is possible (and

probably for sure) that the walls of the intestinal tract are producing copious

quantities of mucus which then surrounds the impactions during the cleanse

process. Kind of like doing a gallbladder flush and stimulating a large release

of bile to flush. So in defense of the critics, the " mucoid plaque " would not be

in the same form (minus the mucus) that is eliminated from the bowel without

stimulating the flush. Hope this helps.Dave

gallstones@...: herbladie@...: Mon, 12 May 2008

23:09:48 -0600Subject: Re: what is the white stuff?

I've known there was something going on with me for years because I'm always

constipated, even tho I eat lots and lots and veggies and fruits, drink lots of

fluids, etc. Do you recommend anything to get rid of the mucoid plaque that you

know works? Do you know if the oxy powder they're advertising works? Doesn't say

what's in Dr. 's stuff, and I don't think I need the whole nine yards.

Just something for the mucoid paque. I do colonics and hardly have dairy. I also

have done Hulda and Hannah Kroeger's stuff for years, so I think I'm good except

for this plaque stuff. At 58 all my blood levels are great as well...cholesterol

a little high at 224 from years of doing Atkins, but it's coming down slowly

from a good vegetarian diet with fish once or twice a week. The good HDL is

saving me there. Have you heard anything about the stuff Brad has tried....Arise

and Shine and Ejuva? Sounds really pricey to me. Way too much info I'm sure, but

I would like to get moving on this and just don't know what to get. Any info you

can give me would be much appreciated!Herbladie----- Original Message -----

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gallstones <mailto:gallstones > Sent: Monday, May

12, 2008 5:38 PMSubject: RE: Re: what is the white stuff?Crap.

Literally. For those of you who are interested check out one of my mentors and

bibles, " Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management " By Dr. Bernard Jensen. Bless

that man. I don't care if you read the book, I just want you to look at the

pictures. Now while the pictures of mucoid plaque are impressive, check out the

pictures of the man who had come in with psoriasis over 95% of his body and the

seven day progression of photos dealing with the bowel.

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You take the Psyllium powder not the capsules, right? ( I have taken

from 3 to 6 tablespoons in a shake. Also, have you tried parasite

cleanses?

good luck

On May 13, 2008, at 10:41 AM, herbladie wrote:

> Psyllium does nothing for me, even with tons of water. I think it

> goes deeper than that. My history is tons and tons of protein for 30

> years (Atkins). I know, stupid. So I'm thinking mucoid plaque or

> build-up on the colon wall, and maybe even the intestinal lining. I

> just would like a referral on a good product that works. When I do

> my colonics nothing really comes out. So I need something that will

> loosen it. I do Turkey Rhubarb Formula now and then, that's pretty

> much all herbs. I just hate taking anything, so mostly just do

> suppositories. It feels good to talk about this because as you know

> we are pretty much considered 'health freaks' to non-believers!

> herbladie

>

>

> >

> > Psyllium

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message ----

> > From: ROBERT D MARILYN J DOUGHTY <herbladie@...>

>

> >

> >

> > I've known there was something going on with me for years because

> I'm always constipated, even tho I eat lots and lots and veggies and

> fruits, drink lots of fluids, etc. Do you recommend anything to get

> rid of the mucoid plaque that you know works? Do you know if the

> oxy powder they're advertising works? Doesn't say what's in Dr.

> 's stuff, and I don't think I need the whole nine yards.

> Just something for the mucoid paque. I do

> >

>

>

>

Battaglia

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Cel 818 268 5395

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It didn't. The exact nature of what is eliminated is up for discussion... The

results are not.-Dave

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Don't give up! Do your own research. I personally don't believe it's a

scam....just makes too much sense to be a scam. And according to many people on

this forum, it's not! Only way to find out is to try it :~)

herbladie

Re: what is the white stuff?

Do we know that Wayne had 20 pounds of " regular " fecal matter or 20

pounds of " mucoid plaque " ?There are a lot of sceptics about the liver/gb

cleansing. But I can give a first-hand testimony of my success with that.But

with this whole mucoid plaque thing, I am just starting to investigate. There

seem to be even more sceptics that claim that the products taken are what cause

the yucky stuff in the first place. Without the anti-plaque product, there is no

plaque. What evidence/experiences so we have in the alternative medicine world

that would help convince me on this?I

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I would not put too much weight on the Wayne waste weight issue - pun

intended.

As you and I know - we remove material that we can not identify - and that is

all that matters.

Jay

what is the white stuff?> > > > > > > > >

> I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of

very> white, almost stringy stuff is excreted. Does anyone know what

this is? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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then you are not doing enough psylium - I get mine from trader joes - I go

through that container in 2.5 weeks or so.

I take much in the morning with almost a liter of water - if I take too long in

the morning to drink it - it almost turns into a solid blob...don't be shy with

your psylium - the only downside I have is the need to go to the bathroom on the

way to work.

J

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- exactly - no 'pills' - only husks - somewhat hard to swallow - but it is

natures little brooms.

j

Re: Re: what is the white stuff?

You take the Psyllium powder not the capsules, right? ( I have taken

from 3 to 6 tablespoons in a shake. Also, have you tried parasite

cleanses?

good luck

On May 13, 2008, at 10:41 AM, herbladie wrote:

> Psyllium does nothing for me, even with tons of water. I think it

> goes deeper than that. My history is tons and tons of protein for 30

> years (Atkins). I know, stupid. So I'm thinking mucoid plaque or

> build-up on the colon wall, and maybe even the intestinal lining. I

> just would like a referral on a good product that works. When I do

> my colonics nothing really comes out. So I need something that will

> loosen it. I do Turkey Rhubarb Formula now and then, that's pretty

> much all herbs. I just hate taking anything, so mostly just do

> suppositories. It feels good to talk about this because as you know

> we are pretty much considered 'health freaks' to non-believers!

> herbladie

>

>

> >

> > Psyllium

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message ----

> > From: ROBERT D MARILYN J DOUGHTY <herbladie@. ..>

>

> >

> >

> > I've known there was something going on with me for years because

> I'm always constipated, even tho I eat lots and lots and veggies and

> fruits, drink lots of fluids, etc. Do you recommend anything to get

> rid of the mucoid plaque that you know works? Do you know if the

> oxy powder they're advertising works? Doesn't say what's in Dr.

> 's stuff, and I don't think I need the whole nine yards.

> Just something for the mucoid paque. I do

> >

>

>

>

Battaglia

Tel 818 897 8500

Cel 818 268 5395

fbattagliamac (DOT) com

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Just a note on psyllium: The husk can be irritating to the villi and micro

villi of the small intestine when used long term. It is still great stuff. It

is generally recognized that it should not be used more than a few months at a

time. You can always break it up with other fibers. Plantago seed which is

closely related is not irritating. Chia seed another (check out the studies

being done on chia right now) (damn! I new I should have eaten that chia pet.).

Flax another yet. Hemp seed is an excellent fiber and is moistening to the

bowel for you cold dry types. marshmallow and slippery elm are fantastic but

require a bit more insoluble fibers in tandem. Dear Daddy Government finally

came out with a recommendation of dietary fiber intake about 15 years ago. They

came up with a ridiculously low figure, as always, of 20 grams. What does the

average american get in their daily diet? 10 grams. In fact 80% of all

Americans get less than the ludicrous government recommendation. I would

recommend 3 times the suggested daily intake.Dave

gallstones@...: jgrosflam@...: Tue, 13 May 2008

19:37:44 -0700Subject: Re: Re: what is the white stuff?

- exactly - no 'pills' - only husks - somewhat hard to swallow - but it is

natures little brooms.j Re: Re: what is the white stuff?You take the

Psyllium powder not the capsules, right? ( I have taken from 3 to 6 tablespoons

in a shake. Also, have you tried parasite cleanses?good luckOn May 13, 2008, at

10:41 AM, herbladie wrote:> Psyllium does nothing for me, even with tons of

water. I think it> goes deeper than that. My history is tons and tons of protein

for 30> years (Atkins). I know, stupid. So I'm thinking mucoid plaque or>

build-up on the colon wall, and maybe even the intestinal lining. I> just would

like a referral on a good product that works. When I do> my colonics nothing

really comes out. So I need something that will> loosen it. I do Turkey Rhubarb

Formula now and then, that's pretty> much all herbs. I just hate taking

anything, so mostly just do> suppositories. It feels good to talk about this

because as you know> we are pretty much considered 'health freaks' to

non-believers!> herbladie>> > >> > Psyllium> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----> >

From: ROBERT D MARILYN J DOUGHTY <herbladie@. ..>>> >> >> > I've known there was

something going on with me for years because> I'm always constipated, even tho I

eat lots and lots and veggies and> fruits, drink lots of fluids, etc. Do you

recommend anything to get> rid of the mucoid plaque that you know works? Do you

know if the> oxy powder they're advertising works? Doesn't say what's in Dr.>

's stuff, and I don't think I need the whole nine yards.> Just something

for the mucoid paque. I do> >>>> BattagliaTel 818 897 8500Cel 818 268

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