Re: what is the white stuff?

May 8, 2008

Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely). This is a very good thing. You do

not want it in your body. I would find someone capable of guiding you through

the process of elimination. It's eviction time! -DDave

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May 2008 00:25:15 +0000Subject: what is the white stuff?

I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of very white,

almost stringy stuff is excreted. Does anyone know what this is?

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May 8, 2008

Yep I agree Dave, fungus or maybe fungus and mucoid plaque together.

Either way its good that you got rid of it. You can look into a

mucoid plaque removal kit theres some on the market. I used Dr

with great sucess but only do it 2x a year since its

costly.

Brad

>

> Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely). This is a very good

thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find someone capable

of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's eviction

time! -DDave

>

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> I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of very

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May 8, 2008

Brad, how do you know if you have mucoid plaque? What part of the

colon does it occupy? Thanks.

> >

> > Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely). This is a very good

> thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find someone

capable

> of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's eviction

> time! -DDave

> >

> > gallstones@: helen_dehavilland@: Thu, 8 May 2008 00:25:15

> +0000Subject: what is the white stuff?

> >

> > I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of

very

> white, almost stringy stuff is excreted. Does anyone know what this

is?

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May 9, 2008

A healthy intestinal mucosa is not the concern here. In normal and

healthy digestive systems regular cell turnover is indeed the case.

However if your experiencing GI health issues or even certain systemic

health problems a build up of mucoid plaque (unhealthy and toxic

intestinal mucosa) is possible. If your infected with certain

pathogens which cause toxicity and inflammation the nerves/muscles

used to perform proper parastalsis can also be damaged and hence

further build up of mucoid plaque and many other resulting health

conditions that can follow including auto-intoxication.

A hyper permeable mucosa is another problem which can have infection

(immune system weakeness) as the root cause and this goes by the name

of Leaky Gut Syndrome. The cell turnover in these individuals is

quite Abnormal and unhealthy.

The many ridges in the intestines can get filled with all sorts of old

stool which should have been passed long ago. This stuff is acidic,

filled with many different kinds of infectious agents and other

chemicals/toxins (needless to say a predisposition to man types of

cancer as well). When its eliminated it can range in any number of

different colours and smells. Absolutely horrid what I got out after

my first cleanse on a mucoid plaque removal protocol. I tried the

Arise and Shine www.ariseandshine.com I've read his books. Very

interesting story! Even if you feel you are having regular bowl

movements you probably have some degree of mucoid plaque.

Mucoid plaque is one of many resulting GI issues that should be

addressed if one wants to avoid ill health.

All of you would be shocked at how many health problems can be traced

back to gastro intestinal toxicity/disorders. Health problems that

one would Never associate with the GI system are indeed the main cause

or contributing factor.

And of course positive thinking meditation/prayer should be the

foundation to any healing program.

Brad

>

> If it is, not a bad thing. keep in mind that the turn over of cells

within yuor digestive tract is on of the fastest in your body. It has

to be. You have this massive chemical process for the digestion of

everything (hopefully) going on. While we have protective mucousa

(hopefully) the turn over of cells within the digestive tract is as

fast as anything. My new prayer for my colon, " please turn over all

the cells of the lining of my digestive tract quickly and in perfect

form. Thank you. " Bless all who entertain this group... -Dave Dave

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May 9, 2008

Mucoid plaque is present in almost all chronically ill people. If you

have problems eliminating Gallstones you probably also have a problem

eliminating Mucoid plaque. When I started eliminating mine it was

black and looked just like mucus from my nose, stringy and ropey. It

was gross! I got out some white stuff too but not much. If you have

constipation problems or ANY problems with inflammation within the

body (Fibromyalgia, Arthritis) Mucoid plaque should be suspect.

Keep in mind that periodically the body if its healthy will shed its

own mucosa and replace it with new and hopefully healthy mucus

secreting cells. But as I mentioned in my other post many times this

ideal situation is not the case.

It can build up anywhere in the intestinal tract. Essentially

wherever nutrient absorption occurs. And if the mucoid plaque

thickens to a certain point this will hamper your nutrient absorption

as well.

Another product that I tried is called Ejuva. They had an interesting

take on things and included herbs which by nature have been known to

help the body expunge this toxic disease causing sludge. I tried it

and I DID feel much better! There was something in there which

actually triggered the intestines to grow new mucus cells! Neet

stuff. Shop around though if your interested, I only tried the two

" Arise and Shine " and " Ejuva " .

=)

Brad

> > >

> > > Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely). This is a very good

> > thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find someone

> capable

> > of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's eviction

> > time! -DDave

> > >

> > > gallstones@: helen_dehavilland@: Thu, 8 May 2008 00:25:15

> > +0000Subject: what is the white stuff?

> > >

> > > I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of

> very

> > white, almost stringy stuff is excreted. Does anyone know what this

> is?

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May 9, 2008

Talk about gross... if you read the book Mucusless Diet Healing System

by Arnold Ehret you will be convinced that Dan is telling the truth! I

think that everyone should have the knowledge offered in this

book....it's priceless. Got mine on Amazon brand new for 4.95 and

there are many used ones as well. If you spend over 25.00 I think,

shipping is free. I also got Fresh Fruits and Vegetables by Norman

because mine was falling apart ;~)

herbladie

When I started eliminating mine it was black and looked just like

mucus from my nose, stringy and ropey. It was gross!

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May 10, 2008

The picture on the cover is a little alarming. His eyes are frightening. I

copied one review below. I have hypoglycemia and it sounds like anyone with

this problem should not heed this book:

Amber

What this book preaches is starvation, pure and simple. This is a very old book,

wherein the author makes many unsubstantiated glowing statements, and

unfortunately many people, including myself, were drawn into the craze of

attempting to find the " superior health " that Ehret promised, only to be left

with broken health because of having done so. My first introduction to the book

came about 1963, although I did not really try to live Ehret's recommendations

fully until about 1966. Being young and gullible I took everything Professor

Ehret said as absolutely true. This was a big mistake. I believe this book came

very close to killing me, as I am already prone to low-blood sugar, without

starving myself.

.

May 10, 2008

I read the book years ago when I was younger, and can't even remember

the details...just the graphic pictures of what came out of the colon.

I'll let you know after I read it what I think.

herbladie

> Very well put Amber- the book is brilliant but we all need to

realize

> that each and everyone of us is different in so many ways. I am

> certain Ehert's ways worked for him but anyone trying anything so

> radical needs to do so either under the supervision of a health care

> practitioner. \\\\

>

May 12, 2008

Brad, do you think his product is worth the extra money as it is

quite costly? If I decide to use his product, which version would

you recommend? (psyllium, cayenne, etc)

Thanks.

> >

> > Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely). This is a very good

> thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find someone

capable

> of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's eviction

> time! -DDave

> >

> > gallstones@: helen_dehavilland@: Thu, 8 May 2008 00:25:15

> +0000Subject: what is the white stuff?

> >

> > I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of

very

> white, almost stringy stuff is excreted. Does anyone know what this

is?

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May 12, 2008

I didn't realize until just now how controversial the idea of mucoid

plaque is. Just did a little surfing... Apparently, there is a

strong contingent of people who say that it does not exist until you

use the products to remove it. This is very dissappointing.

Thoughts?

> >

> > Most likely yeast or fungus (most likely). This is a very good

> thing. You do not want it in your body. I would find someone

capable

> of guiding you through the process of elimination. It's eviction

> time! -DDave

> >

> > gallstones@: helen_dehavilland@: Thu, 8 May 2008 00:25:15

> +0000Subject: what is the white stuff?

> >

> > I have done 3 liver flushes. Each time an increasing amount of

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May 13, 2008

I've known there was something going on with me for years because I'm always

constipated, even tho I eat lots and lots and veggies and fruits, drink lots of

fluids, etc. Do you recommend anything to get rid of the mucoid plaque that you

know works? Do you know if the oxy powder they're advertising works? Doesn't

say what's in Dr. 's stuff, and I don't think I need the whole nine

yards. Just something for the mucoid paque. I do colonics and hardly have

dairy. I also have done Hulda and Hannah Kroeger's stuff for years, so I

think I'm good except for this plaque stuff. At 58 all my blood levels are

great as well...cholesterol a little high at 224 from years of doing Atkins, but

it's coming down slowly from a good vegetarian diet with fish once or twice a

week. The good HDL is saving me there. Have you heard anything about the stuff

Brad has tried....Arise and Shine and Ejuva? Sounds really pricey to me.

Way too much info I'm sure, but I would like to get moving on this and just

don't know what to get.

Any info you can give me would be much appreciated!

Herbladie

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Subject: RE: Re: what is the white stuff?

Crap. Literally. For those of you who are interested check out one of my

mentors and bibles, " Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management " By Dr. Bernard

Jensen. Bless that man. I don't care if you read the book, I just want you to

look at the pictures. Now while the pictures of mucoid plaque are impressive,

check out the pictures of the man who had come in with psoriasis over 95% of his

body and the seven day progression of photos dealing with the bowel.

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Do we know that Wayne had 20 pounds of " regular " fecal matter or

20 pounds of " mucoid plaque " ?

There are a lot of sceptics about the liver/gb cleansing. But I can

give a first-hand testimony of my success with that.

But with this whole mucoid plaque thing, I am just starting to

investigate. There seem to be even more sceptics that claim that the

products taken are what cause the yucky stuff in the first place.

Without the anti-plaque product, there is no plaque. What

evidence/experiences so we have in the alternative medicine world

that would help convince me on this?

I try to keep an open mind. Not all " alternative " approaches are

valid. Whether we want to admit it or not, there are scams out

there, even in alternative medicine.

Please don't misunderstand. I am not saying the mucoid plaque thing

is a scam. I am just trying to collect information in order to make

a decision. I am hoping that someone convinces me that it is in fact

valid. I am hoping that it is something that could help me.

I am all ears at this point! Thanks!

> >> > Most likely yeast or

fungus (most likely). This is a very good> thing. You do not want it

in your body. I would find someone capable> of guiding you through

the process of elimination. It's eviction> time! -DDave> > > > > >

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May 13, 2008

Psyllium does nothing for me, even with tons of water. I think it

goes deeper than that. My history is tons and tons of protein for 30

years (Atkins). I know, stupid. So I'm thinking mucoid plaque or

build-up on the colon wall, and maybe even the intestinal lining. I

just would like a referral on a good product that works. When I do

my colonics nothing really comes out. So I need something that will

loosen it. I do Turkey Rhubarb Formula now and then, that's pretty

much all herbs. I just hate taking anything, so mostly just do

suppositories. It feels good to talk about this because as you know

we are pretty much considered 'health freaks' to non-believers!

herbladie

>

> Psyllium

>

> ----- Original Message ----

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>

> I've known there was something going on with me for years because

I'm always constipated, even tho I eat lots and lots and veggies and

fruits, drink lots of fluids, etc. Do you recommend anything to get

rid of the mucoid plaque that you know works? Do you know if the

oxy powder they're advertising works? Doesn't say what's in Dr.

's stuff, and I don't think I need the whole nine yards.

Just something for the mucoid paque. I do

>

May 14, 2008

Thanks for the tips, everyone. I do Hulda's program with the

parasites, kidney and liver cleanses.

I just did a search on psyllium and didn't find anything horrible.

Just have to be careful to take it with plenty of water or it can do

the opposite and constipate. Also to be careful to not take it with

vits and mins and meds, etc. But that's true with any fiber. I've

been grinding flax, sunflower and almonds and using that on different

foods. The Fit for Life program with the fruit and fruit juices in

the A.M. until noon has worked really well for me for the last 3

years. You would think I would be pooin' like crazy by now!

I will try more psyllium powder and keep doing the colonics and see

what happens. I'm also due for another liver flush, and everytime I

do one I feel great! Took awhile to get this way, so may take awhile

to go away :~)

herbladie

>

> > Psyllium does nothing for me, even with tons of water. I think it

> > goes deeper than that. My history is tons and tons of protein for

30

> > years (Atkins). I know, stupid.

>

May 14, 2008

I have to disagree with you on the " Only way to find out is to try

it " . I don't think people are questioning whether you will get some

yucky stuff out or not.

But the question is if the yucky stuff is produced in your body as a

result of the product. In other words, you didn't have any if this

stuff in your colon before you started taking the product. That is

the question of the day!

I don't see how trying it will answer that question.

>

> Don't give up! Do your own research. I personally don't believe