enzymes

[Guest guest]

>

> Is peptizyde(?) too harsh for sensitive GI tract?

If your child has open ulcers, it might be. Try low dose of AFP

Peptizyde, see if that works.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>>In reading here and at Dana's page I saw info on zyme prime

> and I really think they are working.

> My question is how many should I give my 6 yo 65# son.

Most kids need just one capsule, or equivalent powder or chewable.

>> Or should I

> have more than one kind? (like the no phenol).

Depends on what foods he does not tolerate, and what he eats.

I read in previous

> posts about not being able to tolerate b vitamins. We were told to

> use the nuthera which is high in b vitamins.

No-Fenol is good for vitamins.

> Last question, since taking the zyme prime his bms have been green and

> very smelly, is this good? Will they clear up once his system is back

> on track?

There is a typical adjustment period of about 3 weeks, so it might be

that.

Is this the version of Zyme Prime with papain/bromelain? If so, try

the SCD version without those ingredients.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Sharolyn,

When I asked Dr. G about enzymes several years ago, I was told not to use

them. If I remember correctly, he was concerned that there might be

something in the enzymes that might be a negative trigger for my son's

immune system. I think he may have said something about being worried that

even if the enzyme worked and did its job that it might not neutralize

everything and so it was not a good risk to take. I was asking about

Peptizyde by Houston Nutraceuticals.

Caroline

> From: sharolyn68 <Sharolyn68@...>

> Reply-< >

> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:26:58 +0000

> < >

> Subject: Enzymes

>

>

> I noticed some keep enzymes on hand for diet infractions. I was

> wondering which one is best from Houston? There are about 3 or 4

> different ones they sell.

> Do you all only give when there is an infraction? or everyday?

>

> Thanks,

> Sharolyn

[Guest guest]

Sharolyn,

I give the AFP Peptizyde (for protein; does not contain papaya like

Peptizyde does) and Zyme Prime (for carbs) for infractions.

I give No Fenol every day b/c my son eats a lot of fruit.

Kristy

Enzymes

I noticed some keep enzymes on hand for diet infractions. I was

wondering which one is best from Houston? There are about 3 or 4

different ones they sell.

Do you all only give when there is an infraction? or everyday?

Thanks,

Sharolyn

[Guest guest]

> What are some enzyme supplements that some of you have used OTHER

THAN

> HNI enzymes?

>

> Also, probiotic suggestions, we have used custom probiotics and some

> from Kirkmans.

>

> Thanks in advance-

>

> Hope

>

We use digest & /or digest gold from enzymedica. For probiotics we use

lactobacillus sporogenes by Thorne and Lactobacillus Rueteri by

Nature's way.

[Guest guest]

We have used both the HNI and Kirkmans Enzymes.

They both work fairly well, but my feeling is that the HNI are a little

better.

Neil

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of hopefrees

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:26 AM

Subject: [ ] enzymes

What are some enzyme supplements that some of you have used OTHER THAN

HNI enzymes?

Also, probiotic suggestions, we have used custom probiotics and some

from Kirkmans.

Thanks in advance-

Hope

[Guest guest]

For Pro-Biotics we have used Multi-Foods Mega Flora, also Kirkmans.

I like the affect of the Kirkmans better, but you need to use 2 at a time to

get what I consider similar results.

Neil

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of hopefrees

Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:28 AM

Subject: [ ] enzymes

What are some enzyme supplements that some of you have used OTHER THAN

HNI enzymes?

Also, probiotic suggestions, we have used custom probiotics and some

from Kirkmans.

Thanks in advance-

Hope

[Guest guest]

>

> What are some enzyme supplements that some of you have used OTHER THAN

> HNI enzymes?

Virastop and Candidase from Enzymedica, but I did not use these to

address food issues.

> Also, probiotic suggestions, we have used custom probiotics and some

> from Kirkmans.

I used Natural Factors brand, from my local health food store.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> What is the difference between the enzymes from HNI and the ones from

> Kirkman? Is one better than the other?

HNI has more variety.

Some kids do better with HNI, others with Kirkman.

It also depends on why you want to use them.

> Also, if I give him a multi with 100% folic acid requirement and give

> DMG, would I need to give additional folic acid with the DMG?

Possibly. Don't forget the B12 along with the folic, if you are using

the folic to prevent the hyper generally caused by the DMG.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Check out Houston nutraceuticals. they are very popular here, and super

thorough.

enzymes

We are off the diet. Which are the best enzymes to replace the diet

with?

[Guest guest]

>

> We are off the diet. Which are the best enzymes to replace the diet

> with?

My kids left gfcf with HNI enzymes. Peptizyde or AFP Peptizyde would

address gluten/casein/soy issues

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Does anyone have any experience with being able to wean their child

off of enzymes or at least the strong ones like Houston or Kirkman;s?

>

I was able to remove enzymes at about round 50 of ALA chelation.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I am about to start my son on the enzyme Zyme Prime and would like to

> know the quantity to start with and how to build up to the maximim

> dose a day.

I started my kids with 1/2 capsule the first day, and gradually

increased it to where they were taking one full capsule with each

meal, 1/2 capsule with each snack.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Shan,

We were never successful trying to ease our son into the diet ... he

would just hold out to eat until he got the forbidden foods .... When

I decided I'd had enough and just got rid of everything in the house

that was forbidden ...anything that he was allergic to we deleted all

at once ... it took about two days of misery ... and then voila ... our

son started eating. He now eats so well it is frightening. We never

ever have him refuse foods anylonger... its like we have a new

child ... one that is growing and thriving ... always before getting

our son to eat was a real problem ...

I'll never look back ... its been good.

>

> Hi Everyone!

>

> I have a question for you all. My son is almost 3 and he's diagnosed

> with autism. My wife and I figured we try the cf/gf diet , and so far

> we haven't been successful. The only food we managed to change is his

> milk -- he takes Natura rice milk. And rest of the food I give him is

> organic (which may include casein/gluten) and we give him multi-

> vitamins plus B12 (capsule) daily. I am looking for an all purpose

> enzyme that I can use on the dairy/bread (which is not cf/gf) he

eats?

> Any suggestions?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Shan

>

[Guest guest]

> I have a question for you all. My son is almost 3 and he's diagnosed

> with autism. My wife and I figured we try the cf/gf diet , and so far

> we haven't been successful. The only food we managed to change is his

> milk -- he takes Natura rice milk. And rest of the food I give him is

> organic (which may include casein/gluten) and we give him multi-

> vitamins plus B12 (capsule) daily. I am looking for an all purpose

> enzyme that I can use on the dairy/bread (which is not cf/gf) he eats?

> Any suggestions?

I used HNI enzymes to leave gfcf

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks -- I will check the HNI enzymes. How effective have the

enzymes been for you? Thanks.

Shan

> > I have a question for you all. My son is almost 3 and he's

diagnosed

> > with autism. My wife and I figured we try the cf/gf diet , and so

far

> > we haven't been successful. The only food we managed to change is

his

> > milk -- he takes Natura rice milk. And rest of the food I give

him is

> > organic (which may include casein/gluten) and we give him multi-

> > vitamins plus B12 (capsule) daily. I am looking for an all

purpose

> > enzyme that I can use on the dairy/bread (which is not cf/gf) he

eats?

> > Any suggestions?

>

>

> I used HNI enzymes to leave gfcf

>

> http://www.houstonni.com/

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks -- I will check the HNI enzymes. How effective have the

> enzymes been for you? Thanks.

>

They were very effective for my family.

Dana

[Guest guest]

He has told me that if someone needs the enzymes, they really should not be

eating that food/those foods.

I have heard this from other sources, as well.

That said, we have enzymes on hand for occasions when my son does have

gluten (special occasions, like birthday parties when he gets cake).

I personally use enzymes b/c I have a lot of problems digesting common foods

without them.

Kristy

Enzymes

Does anyone know how Dr. G feels about using enzymes?

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

I've read wonderful things about Dr. Houston's products Peptizyde &

others. I put my daughter on peptizyde for her dairy allergy. The

theory is that it completely digests all the proteins in the stomach,

breaking all bonds between amino acids, so if the child has leaky gut

there are no large protein molecules that pass through, triggering

the immune system and other sensitivity problems. The peptizyde does

allow my daughter to have dairy without having problems and she does

seem to be losing her sensitivity to it. See www.autismcoach.com and

http://www.enzymestuff.com/basicsproductguidelines.htm

Also, have you heard about the lyme-and-autism group? A lot of kids

whose mothers had lyme when they were pregnant and were born with

autism are recovering from the autism after being treated for lyme.

It appears to be a symptom of prenatal exposure to lyme, among other

things. They're having a big conference in CA with wonderful

speakers, coming up soon.

http://www.townsendletter.com/April2007/LIAthinktank0407.htm

>

> All,

>

> I was wondering if I should put my daughter with autism on an

enzyme

> supplement. Right now she gets raw milk, raw egg yolks, and I also

give her

> probiotics.(she will not drink kefir) Since she has autism, do you

think it would be a

> good idea to supplement with enzymes? I know it is best to get them

from food,

> but, she is too finicky and I can only do so much is ways of

getting her to

> eat something. Your input is appreicated.

>

> Ginger </HTML>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Houston impressed me several years ago when I contacted him about his

enzymes for our Asperger's son. When he heard we were primarily following

Nourishing Traditions he told us to " save " our money - to try NT out for at

least six months, and then if we needed tweaking, to give him a call, but he

said NT should " do the trick " . He gave me the clear message his products

are for those who eat a primarily processed food, standard American diet.

Anyway, I loved the fact he's not out just to sell product hand-over-fist

but really seemed to have a moral compass on who he and his products are

trying to help.

Sharon

On 6/14/07, haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

>

> I've read wonderful things about Dr. Houston's products Peptizyde &

> others. I put my daughter on peptizyde for her dairy allergy.

>

[Guest guest]

Is the NT diet helping your son?

I got the idea after reading Darman's story about how he and

his son recovered that maybe part of the role in Dr. Houston's

enzymes is that they break out all the amino acids, and the autistic

children actually are deficient in some aminos, maybe due to lack of

ability to digest proteins properly. Because was reporting the

same type of benefits from giving his son massive amounts of free

amino acids as the people in the enzymes for autism group were

reporting from the peptizyde, which is the one that breaks down

aminos. So I'm guessing that maybe both together would be even

better - enzymes and NT diet.

> >

> > I've read wonderful things about Dr. Houston's products

Peptizyde &

> > others. I put my daughter on peptizyde for her dairy allergy.

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi List Mates,

> I need your input. It's time to buy enzymes again. My son still

> doesn't have formed stool. There appears to be black olives and read

> pepper in his stool that wasn't digested.

Try No-Fenol

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I started my 6 year old son with autism on the Houston enzymes after 2 years

gfcfsf. They are the only enzymes I have tried. We tried going off the diet

last year and had problems about a month after and went back on the diet. We

have slowly weaned him off the diet again and it's been two months without

problems. The school is very cooperative too as they give the enzymes with every

snack and meal. Our lives are so much better and easier and he's happier. I

wish I tried earlier. He did go through an adjustment phase the first couple

of weeks but after showing progress on the diet and now even better off, it's

worth the money.

dena

paulsonclan07 <paulson07@...> wrote:

We use Enzymedica Digest and Gluten Ease that I get from Vitamin

Shoppe. Truthfully, I would like to try Houston's cuz I've heard

they are stronger, but I can barely afford the ones we get now. The

ones we have now work well for general digestion issues, but don't

work for my son for occasional gluten and casein meals with enzymes.

I've heard some kids don't do well using any enzymes to take the

place of gfcf diet, so maybe it's that with my son too.

hth,

Corinne

>

> I use other enzymes for myself that I get from my local health food

store (can't think of the name off hand!), but for my son, I do not

trust any other enzymes besides Houston Enzymes!!! They have made

the WORLD of difference for us, and they are tailor made for the

needs of our children. So, I guess it depends on what you are using

the enzymes for. I know that I would do better, probably with the

Houston Enzymes, as well, but I honestly can't afford it! I have my

ASD son on Houston, and one of my NT sons, as well. That pretty much

breaks me right there each month, but the improvements are SO worth

it! ( in BOTH of the boys!) Something to think about . . .

>

> ~Diane

> Mom to Aaren, age 3, ASD

>

> <<Message: 24

> I know that most of you recommend Houston's enzymes and I have

sent for

> samples already. That being said, does anyone use enzymes that

they buy at a store

> instead of online? I would appreciate any advice and/or

experiences you all

> have to share.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

Extremely quick primer on digestive enzymes. Amylases work on carbos,

proteases work on proteins, lipases on fats. Your saliva produces pytalin (sp?)

also known as salivary amylase (works only on carbos. different from my most

revered dog, he produces proteases). Therefore mixing your food with saliva

during the chewing process is very important. The stomach produces HCL (a

major, major issue) and pepsin (remember Beeman's gum?) which work on proteins.

Liver produces bile to emulsify fats. Pancreas produces all three (known as

tryptin, Chymotryptin, and pancreatin). This is your bodies ability to digest

minus the until now unmentioned factor of yeasts and bacterias within the

digestive tract that do some of it for you also. Raw foods contain a lot of

these. All enzymes are destroyed between 113 and 126 degrees f.. therefore any

cooked or processed foods are devoid of those which are naturally occurring. We

did not " evolve " eating cooked foods. They did not appear as a major source

until perhaps the past 10,000 years and even more so over the last several

hundred. Therefore supplementation with enzymes when consuming cooked or

processed foods may be wise. As I said in my resent response to Fred, Dr.

Howell's works are classic. Also try " Smokey " Santillo, the ND who

spearheads NSA's juice plus (all marketing with some good digestive enzymes).

-D

----- Original Message -----

From: herbladie<mailto:herbladie@...>

gallstones <mailto:gallstones >

Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: How often can I do a liver flush?

Hi Dave~As we get older we are supposed to be deficient in these

enzymes, especially if we eat animal protein. How do we get enough of

them? I know that eating lots of raw foods gives you enzymes, but is

it enough for the meat eater? I an vegetarian and have fish a few

times a week, and my diet consists mostly of veggies and fruits and a

few nuts and seeds. So I'm probably okay, but what about the person

who does eat alot of protein. If people really do need help breaking

down their food, what do they do? I think it was Hulda who said

that, too, but that it might be better to take the risk if you need

them. Confusing for sure.

herbladie

OK, now that I have mentioned a nasty, one of my favorite supplements;

digestive enzymes. Yep, aspergillus orzea and aspergillus niger. Guess

what kind of lung conditions can be " caused " by members of the

aspergillus family.) They can and will, reek havoc upon the flora and

fauna of your digestive tract at a minimum. If you take them, be

prepared and make the necessary reparative plans.

[Guest guest]

>>But the stimming started. He used to do the hand flapping alot, but

that was the extent of it. Since the enzymes, it has increased plus

he's added a few more things,like, making sure all the doors are

closed, if they're on cracks, or flinging the cabinet doors open,

getting things and putting them close to his face, turning on light

switches and fans. He wasn't like this till we started. Will this go away?

At my house, flapping and OCD were eliminated with B vitamins,

anti-virals [OLE, Virastop, vitamin C, lysine], and yeast control

[biotin and GSE].

>>He's non-verbal for the most part.

What my son needed for language is written here

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

Dana