Bad breath

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> its back. not a metallic taste but i feel like i need a mint all

the

> time. anyone know why i would get this at 3 months out? brushing

my

> teeth only helps it for a while. yucky

>

> vicki

Vicki,

Someone mentioned ketones. If that is the case, then it is coming

from your lungs and no amount of tooth brushing will rid you of it.

marta

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> > its back. not a metallic taste but i feel like i need a mint all

> the

> > time. anyone know why i would get this at 3 months out? brushing

> my

> > teeth only helps it for a while. yucky

> >

> > vicki

>

> Vicki,

>

> Someone mentioned ketones. If that is the case, then it is coming

> from your lungs and no amount of tooth brushing will rid you of it.

>

> marta

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now that would make sense because never in my life have i eaten so

much protein. does this eventually go away??

vicki

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> > Someone mentioned ketones. If that is the case, then it is

coming

> > from your lungs and no amount of tooth brushing will rid you of

it.

> >

> > marta

>

> ***************************************

>

>

> now that would make sense because never in my life have i eaten so

> much protein. does this eventually go away??

>

> vicki

When you stop burning fat you will stop producing ketones.

Marta

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In a message dated 12/5/2003 1:06:10 AM Central Standard Time,

mjs93311@... writes:

> now that would make sense because never in my life have i eaten so

> >much protein. does this eventually go away??

> >

> >vicki

>

> When you stop burning fat you will stop producing ketones.

>

> Marta

>

>

Marta...Vicki,

In the diet book Dr. Atkins always suggested increasing water to help

the breath problem. It made sense to me because the more water you drink the

more urine produced to wash them out of your body....

in Bama

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In a message dated 12/5/2003 1:06:10 AM Central Standard Time,

mjs93311@... writes:

> now that would make sense because never in my life have i eaten so

> >much protein. does this eventually go away??

> >

> >vicki

>

> When you stop burning fat you will stop producing ketones.

>

> Marta

>

>

Marta...Vicki,

In the diet book Dr. Atkins always suggested increasing water to help

the breath problem. It made sense to me because the more water you drink the

more urine produced to wash them out of your body....

in Bama

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My daughter gets that too.

Tracey

On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, at 10:30 PM, magoo3153 wrote:

> Does anyone experience bad mouth odor? Any suggestions what causes

> this or what to do about it?

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> Laurie

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My son Shayne gets the bad breathe odor especially when he gets the fever. When

the fever is gone shortly thereafter, the bad breathe is gone too. The dr. told

me it goes with the fevers and mouth sores.

Donna Marie

Mother of Shayne 8 1/2 yrs old.

Tracey <Tracey4567@...> wrote:

My daughter gets that too.

Tracey

On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, at 10:30 PM, magoo3153 wrote:

> Does anyone experience bad mouth odor? Any suggestions what causes

> this or what to do about it?

>

> Laurie

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In a message dated 27/11/2005 13:29:25 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganV@... writes:

Both my boys have stinky breath at the moment, used to always have it until I gave him Culturelle ages ago but it's back now and also has it, is this some other kind of gut bug and nothing to do with Yeast, I don't think has ever had issues with yeast, but he has always had constipation.

>>>>My guess on this is bacteria rather than yeast. You going to try the Culturelle again?

Mandi x

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Yes, I suppose I will, if memory serves me well Culturelle was none too cheap, but it was good as a one off, by the time I had finished all the blisters the bad breath had gone.

Do you know anything about this new super duper probio from kirkmans Mandi?

Vicky

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In a message dated 27/11/2005 15:12:07 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganV@... writes:

Yes, I suppose I will, if memory serves me well Culturelle was none too cheap, but it was good as a one off, by the time I had finished all the blisters the bad breath had gone.

>>>You can sometimes get in on special at vrp.com on a 3 for 2 offer

Do you know anything about this new super duper probio from kirkmans Mandi?

>>>Nope - I love what I am using so not tried it.

Mandi x

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Not sure if this helps: My NT son had a phase of stinky breath,

tried everything - mouthwash,different extra minty toothpaste, more

brushing etc (poor kid!) Then friend who is GP recommended

probiotics (we actually used yalkult). It worked a treat and for him

not a problem since. There must be some sort of good gut bug

imbalance that causes the stinky breath phenonemon.

Bests

Gail

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> In a message dated 27/11/2005 13:29:25 GMT Standard Time,

MaddiganV@a...

> writes:

>

> Both my boys have stinky breath at the moment, used to

always

> have it until I gave him Culturelle ages ago but it's back now

and

> also has it, is this some other kind of gut bug and nothing to do

with

> Yeast, I don't think has ever had issues with yeast, but

he has

> always had constipation.

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> >>>>My guess on this is bacteria rather than yeast. You going to

try the

> Culturelle again?

>

> Mandi x

>

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I tried to order the new Kirkmans probio from Nutricentre but they didn't have it in, that was two weeks ago now, so maybe next time, would be interested in how you get on with it.

Also Iv'e been reading stuff lately where people are saying we should be rotating probio's, is that so? We have been using multi flora for the longest time now, but I think we need something new.

Vicky

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This might be of no help in the UK, but VRP.com is having a buy

three get one free sale on Culturelle until the end of November. I

just stocked up myself cause the stuff is pricey.

I also have started using the new probiotics from Kirkmans. Only

been three days so I've nothing to report other than it is easer

opening up one capsule than four of the probiogold. Also I noticed

in the new one that there are 10 billion of the bifidobacterium

infantis which according to something I read somewhere is very

helpful for people with IBS. My son doesn't have IBS but I thought

it might be helpful for anyone's child who might be leaning that way.

Anita

>

> Yes, I suppose I will, if memory serves me well Culturelle was

none too

> cheap, but it was good as a one off, by the time I had finished

all the blisters

> the bad breath had gone.

> Do you know anything about this new super duper probio from

kirkmans Mandi?

> Vicky

> x

>

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It probably is if they are still in the rapid wt loss phase. I warn my

patients of this when I see them prior to surgery.

Hosier, RD, LD

Clinical Dietitian

Member ASBS www.asbs.org

St. Luke's Regional Medical Center

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I seem to recall someone mentioning that 50 mg of zinc would help with this, has anyone had experience with that?

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Ketosis.

Hosier, RD, LD

Clinical Dietitian

Member ASBS www.asbs.org

St. Luke's Regional Medical Center

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what is the cause?

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> It probably is if they are still in the rapid wt loss phase. I

warn my

> patients of this when I see them prior to surgery.

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> Hosier, RD, LD

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> St. Luke's Regional Medical Center

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We check Zn levels and Zn is WNL. I also think it is ketosis or high

protein diet-sulfa in protein

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> I seem to recall someone mentioning that 50 mg of zinc would help

with this,

> has anyone had experience with that?

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Sometimes patients are complaining of bad breath simply because they're wearing

clothes that are too tight on their belly. - the bad smell could just be

digestive juices, etc not being able to go down properly. It could also be

ketosis - but in my experience it can be something as simple as too tight of

clothing.

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We check Zn levels and Zn is WNL. I also think it is ketosis or high

protein diet-sulfa in protein

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> I seem to recall someone mentioning that 50 mg of zinc would help

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Bad breath is also a possibility from the "bad gut" bacteria overrunning the good bacteria. This can be related to trauma to the gut like surgery, or antibiotic therapy or drinking things like soda or caffeine. We have our patients take probiotic pills as this will put the good bacteria back into the body and establish a balance of good vs bad bacteria again.

jdm

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Janelle!

Which probiotics do you recommend ?

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I suggest patients get a refrigerated brand if possible. I went on consumerlabs.com and printed out a list of their suggested brands that met their criteria.Janelle Janelle D. McLeod, RDGastric Bypass CoordinatorPenn State Hershey Medical Center717-531-6321 This message (including any attachments) contains information intended for a specific individual(s) and purpose that may be privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure pursuant to applicable law. Any inappropriate use, distribution or copying of the message is strictly prohibited and may subject you to criminal or civil penalty. If you have received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender indicating this error and delete the transmission from your system immediately. >>> "Marina Savelyeva" <saleva25@...> 5/30/2007 12:01 AM >>>Janelle!Which probiotics do you recommend ?> >> > I seem to recall someone mentioning that 50 mg of zinc would help > with this, > > has anyone had experience with that?> > > > June Zaragoza, MPH, RD/LD> > Vista WLS> > Waukegan, IL> > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.: ( http://www.aol.:/ ) <http://www.aol.com. ( http://www.aol.com./ )> com.> >> > > > > >

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Dear ,

It has been briefly mentioned, but the underlying cause of bad breath is the

fact there is rotting food sitting in your esophagus. Treat that problem and

the breath problem should lessen. Tell us how you have been treated before.

Take some carbonated water, that forces the LES open for some of us and helps

the food go down, thus the smell should lessen. And obviously avoid garlic and

other smelly things. But the underlying issue is probably untreated achalasia.

Sandy

>

> Dear all

>

> Apologies if this has been covered before but do fellow achalasians suffer

from bad breath?

>

> Mine is very bad at times although I am able to mask it using special

toothpaste and mouthwash.

>

> [it's definitely not my teeth that are the problem as I have very good teeth].

>

> My GP says it's just one of those things....

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> Thanks, (UK)

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Sandy

Thanks for the reply.

I have had achalasia since 2003 and in that time, I've had three dilatations

(the most recent being Dec 2007). I will not have another one; it will

definitely be the Heller's Myotomy next.

I thought the bad breath was probably related to rotting food. Do you know if

this is dangerous in any way?

I was hoping to get a few more years under my belt before I go for surgery. I

can pretty much eat anything I want at the moment although bread can be a bit of

a struggle on occasion.

If bad breath is the only implication, then I'm happy to live with it for a

while longer.

Regards,

> Dear ,

> It has been briefly mentioned, but the underlying cause of bad breath is the

fact there is rotting food sitting in your esophagus. Treat that problem and the

breath problem should lessen. Tell us how you have been treated before.

> Take some carbonated water, that forces the LES open for some of us and helps

the food go down, thus the smell should lessen. And obviously avoid garlic and

other smelly things. But the underlying issue is probably untreated achalasia.

> Sandy

> Dear all

> > Apologies if this has been covered before but do fellow achalasians suffer

from bad breath?

> > Mine is very bad at times although I am able to mask it using special

toothpaste and mouthwash.

> > [it's definitely not my teeth that are the problem as I have very good

teeth].

> > My GP says it's just one of those things....

> > Thanks, (UK)

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Dear ,

Please look over old messages about waiting. Your esophagus is likely

stretching and that makes surgery less likely to be successful.

The reason you can eat pretty well is because your esophagus is likely already

stretched some and the food is sitting there. Those of us that had more severe

symptoms probably didn't have a stretched esophagus and there is some of the

opinion that the surgery is more successful the less stretched. Actually most

any surgeon will tell you that.

To manage achalasia well, into your later years I would highly recommend getting

the surgery before your esophagus stretches. Ray from OC will post he has

waited... but he is older than dirt, I think as he says. He also has other

health issues.

The bad breath... sometimes we go into gross topics. But, if you are in a

position where you come into contact with other people, likely you are not aware

of what a turnoff it is. It could be affecting all your interactions with loved

ones, coworkers and clients. It is a sensitive subject... but really it does

matter a lot. Smell is very important and the mints do not cover that up.

We support any decision members here make, but having said that, I can't

remember anyone saying they are glad they waited, except Ray. Many many post

they wish they had had a myotomy earlier. Maybe other members will post that

did wait. I waited for a while, also after dialations, but the effect it has on

your family to have a chronically ill person is much more than you may realize.

Resentment, guilt etc. all spiral around and around, assuming you are able to

have the surgery. Achalasia affects the whole family.

Sandy

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> > Dear all

>

> > > Apologies if this has been covered before but do fellow achalasians suffer

from bad breath?

>

> > > Mine is very bad at times although I am able to mask it using special

toothpaste and mouthwash.

>

> > > [it's definitely not my teeth that are the problem as I have very good

teeth].

>

> > > My GP says it's just one of those things....

>

> > > Thanks, (UK)

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