newbie

[Guest guest]

Sorry, this message didn't come through my regular email earlier today.

Personally I wouldn't be taking iron supplements without testing CBC with

differentials at the minimum. Infections and a few other things can come into

play and supplementing iron could worsen the problem.

If you're feeling stable I'd work on other things to support the adrenals. Make

sure you're taking good quality B vitamins, magnesium (400-1000 mgs daily or

above if tolerated), maybe get amino acids tested. Make sure you're using

Celtic salt or another good brand, no processed salt. Work on supporting the

liver and kidneys.

Are you taking any OTC meds, like Excedrin, Tylenol, etc. or other items? What

does your diet consist of?

Linn

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> > > > > > > Hi Gang,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm from Janie's site and I've been reading but not sure about

> > > > > dosing info. I'm recently diagnosed hypo, possibly hashi's but waiting

> > > > > the antibodies test to determine certainty... A week ago I started to

> > > > > using Erfa Thyroid. Yesterday I painted a 2sq inch area on my arm with

> > > > > tincture of iodine antiseptic (what I had at the time)to see how fast

> > > > > it would get absorbed and it took over 10 hrs, I assume I'm not

> > > > > deficient. Today was a horrible day with a return of too many hypo

> > > > > symptoms.... I rec'd Lugols 2.2% solution today which is 2.55mg per

> > > > > drop. I'm under the impression I can drink this or paint it on my

> > > > > veins and that I should start slowly. Do I start with 1 drop daily?

Cheers

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[Guest guest]

I agree with Linn. Iron isn't something you want to take unless you know that you need it. Iron overload can be dangerous.

Buist, ND

Re: Newbie

Sorry, this message didn't come through my regular email earlier today. Personally I wouldn't be taking iron supplements without testing CBC with differentials at the minimum. Infections and a few other things can come into play and supplementing iron could worsen the problem. If you're feeling stable I'd work on other things to support the adrenals. Make sure you're taking good quality B vitamins, magnesium (400-1000 mgs daily or above if tolerated), maybe get amino acids tested. Make sure you're using Celtic salt or another good brand, no processed salt. Work on supporting the liver and kidneys. Are you taking any OTC meds, like Excedrin, Tylenol, etc. or other items? What does your diet consist of?Linn > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi Gang,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I'm from Janie's site and I've been reading but not sure about > > > > > dosing info. I'm recently diagnosed hypo, possibly hashi's but waiting > > > > > the antibodies test to determine certainty... A week ago I started to > > > > > using Erfa Thyroid. Yesterday I painted a 2sq inch area on my arm with > > > > > tincture of iodine antiseptic (what I had at the time)to see how fast > > > > > it would get absorbed and it took over 10 hrs, I assume I'm not > > > > > deficient. Today was a horrible day with a return of too many hypo > > > > > symptoms.... I rec'd Lugols 2.2% solution today which is 2.55mg per > > > > > drop. I'm under the impression I can drink this or paint it on my > > > > > veins and that I should start slowly. Do I start with 1 drop daily? Cheers> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Ok Linn, I certainly can ease off the iron. Geesh more tests.. this will have to

wait as I'm nearly broke from so much other stuff. I've been on antibiotics for

8 months for Lyme disease. Not sure it's completely solved but I'm way better

than before. So other infections are possible. However Abx (antibiotics) did

help reduce pain significantly. But now I'm off them (my ALT spiked when they

alternated meds)and I just stopped voltaren 100mg /day. So its down to tylenol

when needed and Erfa... I think erfa has helped some because I had to stay on

small doses of Abx (1000mg/day) just to stay mobile and now I'm hurting but I

can get around.

Diet is good, sugar free, yeast free, gluten free and 2 glasses of red wine a

week (just for sanity of course Largely a protein diet for many years now.

But I'm still 25 Lbs over weight and that should not be with the little bit I

eat. My mother inlaw eats more than I do and doesn't exercise lol

Supplementation are ok. 3 grams VitC, 600mg magnesium, 5000Iu Vit D, 1200mg B12,

B-100 complex, Fish oil, probiotics, I need to get celtic salt... gotta find out

where. I want to start the iodine but maybe I should wait and get settled in on

this new regime first. 45 min exercise every alternate day and I ski once a week

if I don't hurt too much. But I'm at my limit now, I can't walk more than a 1/2

Km without my hips and knees being too painful, but I've been like this for at

least 8 years.

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> > > > > > > > Hi Gang,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'm from Janie's site and I've been reading but not sure about

> > > > > > dosing info. I'm recently diagnosed hypo, possibly hashi's but

waiting

> > > > > > the antibodies test to determine certainty... A week ago I started

to

> > > > > > using Erfa Thyroid. Yesterday I painted a 2sq inch area on my arm

with

> > > > > > tincture of iodine antiseptic (what I had at the time)to see how

fast

> > > > > > it would get absorbed and it took over 10 hrs, I assume I'm not

> > > > > > deficient. Today was a horrible day with a return of too many hypo

> > > > > > symptoms.... I rec'd Lugols 2.2% solution today which is 2.55mg per

> > > > > > drop. I'm under the impression I can drink this or paint it on my

> > > > > > veins and that I should start slowly. Do I start with 1 drop daily?

Cheers

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[Guest guest]

Good probiotics would definitely be needed to reestablish gut flora. Make sure

you get the type that need to be refrigerated. Have you tried salt loading, I

don't know a lot about Lyme disease, but there are folks here who do, hopefully

they'll chime in.

With the Voltaren and other pain killer use, IMO it would advisable to add in

some liver support, milk thistle, Livatone Plus or something similar. Also if

you're routinely taking Tylenol type products, I would definitely take NAC daily

also to prevent damage from the painkillers.

Diet wise, keep the proteins clean, grass fed if possible so the fatty acid is

correct, lots of fresh veggies, some good fresh fruits, and make sure any fats

are the proper types. No corn oils or canola, stick with real butter, coconut,

olive, or macadamia nut oils. No margarine and if you use commercial mayonaise,

stick with the type made from olive oil or better yet, make your own. Avocados

are an excellent addition to the diet. Proper fats can make a huge difference

in healing. To help with pain, eliminate any processed products.

I would up the magnesium to 1000 mgs if you can tolerate it without stomach

issues, it will help with the pain. Make sure not to use the oxide form though.

Glucosamin with MSM would help also.

I would highly recommend Dr. Brownstein's book " Overcoming Arthritis " . I think

the iodine would definitely help.

https://www.drbrownstein.com/bookstore_OvercomingA.php

Also good info here by Dr. Jarvis:

http://www.jcrows.com/arthritis.html

http://www.jcrows.com/arthritistreatment.html

Hope this helps,

Linn

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> > > > > > > > > Hi Gang,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm from Janie's site and I've been reading but not sure about

> > > > > > > dosing info. I'm recently diagnosed hypo, possibly hashi's but

waiting

> > > > > > > the antibodies test to determine certainty... A week ago I started

to

> > > > > > > using Erfa Thyroid. Yesterday I painted a 2sq inch area on my arm

with

> > > > > > > tincture of iodine antiseptic (what I had at the time)to see how

fast

> > > > > > > it would get absorbed and it took over 10 hrs, I assume I'm not

> > > > > > > deficient. Today was a horrible day with a return of too many hypo

> > > > > > > symptoms.... I rec'd Lugols 2.2% solution today which is 2.55mg

per

> > > > > > > drop. I'm under the impression I can drink this or paint it on my

> > > > > > > veins and that I should start slowly. Do I start with 1 drop

daily? Cheers

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Much appreciated Linn, Is there a particular magnesium would you suggest. Also,

if my sodium is already at the top of the range should I still be taking celtic

sea salt? and if so, do you have a recommended source.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi Gang,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I'm from Janie's site and I've been reading but not sure

about

> > > > > > > > dosing info. I'm recently diagnosed hypo, possibly hashi's but

waiting

> > > > > > > > the antibodies test to determine certainty... A week ago I

started to

> > > > > > > > using Erfa Thyroid. Yesterday I painted a 2sq inch area on my

arm with

> > > > > > > > tincture of iodine antiseptic (what I had at the time)to see how

fast

> > > > > > > > it would get absorbed and it took over 10 hrs, I assume I'm not

> > > > > > > > deficient. Today was a horrible day with a return of too many

hypo

> > > > > > > > symptoms.... I rec'd Lugols 2.2% solution today which is 2.55mg

per

> > > > > > > > drop. I'm under the impression I can drink this or paint it on

my

> > > > > > > > veins and that I should start slowly. Do I start with 1 drop

daily? Cheers

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Any form is okay except oxide. I'm pretty partial to magnesium glycinate. You

might try several different types and see which one works best for you.

Yes, continue with the recommended daily dose of Celtic Sea Salt per the iodine

protocol. Celtic Sea Salt, Pink Himalayan, Redmonds are all brands folks here

cite as sources.

Here's more info:

http://curezone.com/foods/saltcure.asp

Linn

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Gang,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I'm from Janie's site and I've been reading but not sure

about

> > > > > > > > > dosing info. I'm recently diagnosed hypo, possibly hashi's but

waiting

> > > > > > > > > the antibodies test to determine certainty... A week ago I

started to

> > > > > > > > > using Erfa Thyroid. Yesterday I painted a 2sq inch area on my

arm with

> > > > > > > > > tincture of iodine antiseptic (what I had at the time)to see

how fast

> > > > > > > > > it would get absorbed and it took over 10 hrs, I assume I'm

not

> > > > > > > > > deficient. Today was a horrible day with a return of too many

hypo

> > > > > > > > > symptoms.... I rec'd Lugols 2.2% solution today which is

2.55mg per

> > > > > > > > > drop. I'm under the impression I can drink this or paint it on

my

> > > > > > > > > veins and that I should start slowly. Do I start with 1 drop

daily? Cheers

> > > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Post your results Helen, together with the reference range for

each test done as test results are no good without them. I have attached a

document that you may wish to read which gives you some reasons why your

thyroxine might not be working for you. Read these through and anything you don't

understand, just shout, and somebody will be along to try to give you some

answers. You will probably only find the reason by going through all of these

by way of a process of elimination until you find the cause.

You will also see attached a list of the minerals and vitamins your

GP should be testing and links alongside that you can show him if he tries to

tell you there is no connection between these particular mins/vits. and hypothyroidism.

I would tell your GP also that serum thyroid function tests only

show the level of TSH being secreted by the pituitary gland and the amount of

T4/T3 being secreted by the thyroid gland. This is known as 'Type 1'

hypothyroidism. The other type of hypothyroidism is called 'Type 2' and is

defined as peripheral resistance to thyroid hormones at the cellular level.

This type of hypothyroidism is not due to a lack of hormone secretions by the

glands. Type 2 hypothyroidism is usually inherited, although environmental

toxins may also cause or exacerbate the problem. The pervasiveness of Type 2

hypothyroidism has yet to be recognised by mainstream medicine, but already is

in epidemic proportions. Type 2 hypothyroidism is treated using some form of

the active thyroid hormone T3, either synthetic or natural.

If ONLY doctors would take a little time out to do some basic

research they would not be causing the harm to those patients who have symptoms

of hypothyroidism but who are unable to convert the thyroxine to T3.

Luv - Sheila

I have had an underactive thyroid for around 8 years and take 200mcg of

thyroxine daily. My blood results are said to be normal but I've not regained

any energy and struggle with exhaustion and depression. I'm taking Prozac but

I'd rather not - it seems the only way of avoiding a melt down. I've forgotten

what it is like to have energy. :-(

Would someone take a look if I paste the results on here, please?

2 of 2 File(s)

MINERALS AND VIT. TESTING.doc

Why thyroid hormone stops working (2).doc

[Guest guest]

MODERATED TO REMOVE MOST OF PREVIOUS MESSAGE ALREADY READ. PLEASE CHECK THAT YOU

HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE CLICKING 'SEND' LEAVING JUST A SMALL PORTION OF WHAT YOU

ARE RESPONDING TO. THANKS - LUV - SHEILA

_______________________

Thanks, Sheila. I will look up my results now, but meanwhile, an iron

deficiency looks VERY likely after reading those links!

I've always been told my results are a little too high, but I've felt awful when

they've been reduced, so my GP has always said he is happy to leave them a

little high and go by what I say.

Trouble is, he will only accept quite major symptoms and puts general tiredness

etc down to my age - I'm 40 so hardly at the tail end of life!!!

Helen

> Post your results Helen, together with the reference range for each test

> done as test results are no good without them. I have attached a document

> that you may wish to read which gives you some reasons why your thyroxine

> might not be working for you. Read these through and anything you don't

> understand, just shout, and somebody will be along to try to give you some

> answers. You will probably only find the reason by going through all of

> these by way of a process of elimination until you find the cause.

>

[Guest guest]

OK, here is the latest blood results I have:

AST serum level 18 iu/L 0-38

Automated comment:

Normal

Serum gamma-glutamyl transferase level 23 iu/L 0-40

Automated comment:

Normal

ALT/SGPT serum level 24 iu/L 0-38

Automated comment:

Normal

Serum alkaline phosphatase 70 iu/L 35-100

Automated comment:

Normal

Serum total bilirubin level 5 umol/L 0-17

Automated comment:

Normal

Serum TSH level 0.65 mu/L 0.25-5

Automated comment:

Normal

Red blood cell distribution width 13.9 % 11-16

Automated comment:

Normal

Platelet count 259 10*9/L 150-400

Automated comment:

Normal

mono. 0.0 x10^9/L 0.4 10*9/L 0.2-1

Automated comment:

Normal

Lymphocyte count 2.4 10*9/L 1-4

Automated comment:

Normal

Baso. 0.0 x10^9/L 0 10*9/L 0-0.2

Automated comment:

Normal

Eosinophil count 0.2 10*9/L 0-0.7

Automated comment:

Normal

Neutrophil count 3.9 10*9/L 2-7.5

Automated comment:

Normal

Total white cell count 6.8 10*9/L 4-11

Automated comment:

Normal

Mean corpuscular volume (MCV) 87.1 fL 76-100

Automated comment:

Normal

Mean corpusc. haemoglobin(MCH) 28.6 pg 27-34

Automated comment:

Normal

Red blood cell (RBC) count 4.06 10*12/L 3.8-5.8

Automated comment:

Normal

Haematocrit 0.354 0.36-0.47

Automated comment:

Abnormal

Haemoglobin estimation 11.6 g/dL 11-16

Automated comment:

Normal

This is what they wrote on my medical record the day I had the blood taken (I

have no idea what all that is, apart from the blood pressure!):

Test request : Liver function tests - general -

Thyroid function tests -Req. -

Test request : Full blood count - FBC -

Never smoked tobacco -

Blood Pressure 109/43 g/L 35-50

Automated comment:

Normal

Serum total protein 73 g/L 60-80

Automated comment:

Normal

Serum lactate dehydrogenase level 327 iu/L 200-520

Automated comment:

Normal

I welcome any thoughts on this. I can also post old results, including one that

has a T3 and T4 result, but they were before the thyroxine had taken effect, I

think. Is it helpful to post older results, or not? I'm thinking it could be a

looong post! lol

Many thanks in advance

Helen

>

> Post your results Helen, together with the reference range for each test

> done as test results are no good without them. I have attached a document

> that you may wish to read which gives you some reasons why your thyroxine

> might not be working for you.

[Guest guest]

Hello Helen.

Your low haematocrit

means that you are anaemic Helen. Some common causes for this could be loss of

blood through traumatic injury, surgery, bleeding, nutritional deficiency. They

appear not to have tested your levels of ferritin, vitamin B12 or folate - they

need to do these.

I see also

that ONLY your TSH was tested and they did not test your free Thyroxine (fT4)

and free triiodothyronine (fT3). These need to be done. Have you been tested to

see whether you have any thyroid antibodies. Ask for the tests for TPO and TgAb

to be done.

Luv - Sheila

Haematocrit 0.354 0.36-0.47

Automated comment:

Abnormal

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sheila.

That's what I thought after reading the links on here last night so I'm glad you

agree.

They tested for antibodies years ago and the results said I have them...? The

GP told me at the time that means my body is attacking my thyroid, or words to

that effect, and it's not due to any underlying health condition.

I've been taking Berocca for a week or so anyway, and I've got some Spatone at

home, so I've started using that today.

For now, I need to stick with those as I can't afford to buy lots of new stuff,

or throw away what I have.

I'm thinking it would be a good idea to take more magnesium though? And I'm

looking at iodine, but don't want to do too much at once!!

I'm shattered at the moment, and feel very tearful and irritable, but that's

usual at the end of a period. I'm guessing that would confirm the anaemia?

Sorry for all the questions. I'm struggling to take all this in so please tell

me if you think I'm barking up the wrong tree. :-)

Oh and I will ask my GP for those blood tests. I'm not sure how he will respond

but it's worth a try!

Thanks again

Helen

Ps shall I start a new post rather than stay in the newbie thread?

>

> Hello Helen.

>

> Your low haematocrit means that you are anaemic Helen. Some common causes

> for this could be loss of blood through traumatic injury, surgery, bleeding,

> nutritional deficiency. They appear not to have tested your levels of

> ferritin, vitamin B12 or folate - they need to do these.

>

> I see also that ONLY your TSH was tested and they did not test your free

> Thyroxine (fT4) and free triiodothyronine (fT3). These need to be done. Have

> you been tested to see whether you have any thyroid antibodies. Ask for the

> tests for TPO and TgAb to be done.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

> Haematocrit 0.354 0.36-0.47

> Automated comment:

> Abnormal

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen, I see that a TPOab test has not been done, usually done when TSH is over the reference range! but as TSH can be anywhere in that range to have symptoms of hypothyroidism which doctor`s are not a where of , if it were me i would ask for this to be done. the TPOab test is to detect auto-antibodieswhich can be present in hashimoto`s(autoimmune thyroiditis). this is mostly the cause of the thyroid being distroyed. angel.

[Guest guest]

Crusher,

's solution is an antibiotic rinse. It is helpful for clearing up

irritations but I don't know about long term use. The budesonide rinse is an

off label use of a nebulized lung steroid (brand name is Pulmicort). Generally

people add an ampule of the pulmicort to their saline solutions 1-2 times a day

for a sinus rinse. Some put drops of budesonide direclty in the nose in a head

hanging position so that the steroid is more directly delivered to the olfactory

area. Others use an steroid spray in the nose like Flonase, but for me that

caused headaches and drying and never helped my SOS. The rinse has really been

helpful. It was recommended to me by National Jewish Hospital in Denver, where

they were quite knowledgeable about Samter's and also did my aspirin desense. I

think you may find that the challenge is not quite as frightening now, mine

wasn't bad.

Jennie

> >

> >

> > Hello everyone. New to the group so just wanted to say hello.

> >

> > The first post I read is about the loss of the sense of smell. Mine has been

> >gone for about 18 years now. I get it back once in a while for a couple of

days

> >when my other symptoms get so bad that I have to go on steriods for a week or

> >two.

> >

> >

> > I just finished a polyp removal surgery and hope that maybe this time there

may

> >be a little hope to have the sense back for a little while. I have a 15 year

old

> >son who's skin I've never smelled. Not once...

> >

> > Crusher

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Crusher,'s solution (or rather, the modified 's solution that was prescribed by your ENT, because I think standard 's is just gentamycine and saline) is fine for a limited time period, such as the time it will take for your mucosa to heal from the latest surgery. You are not supposed to keep irrigating indefinitely (like, months on end) with it because : - gentamycine will eventually select gentamycin-resistant germs,- the corticoid will worsen the thinning of your skull bones,- 10% baby shampoo is a high concentration of shampoo (1% is the norm) and is likely to irritate (burn) after some time.You may still have some bone separation between the olfactory area and your brain, but it may just be hidden between two CT scan "slices" because it is thin.> > >> > > > > > Hello everyone. New to the group so just wanted to say hello. > > > > > > The first post I read is about the loss of the sense of smell. Mine has been > > > >gone for about 18 years now. I get it back once in a while for a couple of > >days > >> > >when my other symptoms get so bad that I have to go on steriods for a week or > > > >two. > > >> > > > > > I just finished a polyp removal surgery and hope that maybe this time there > >may > >> > >be a little hope to have the sense back for a little while. I have a 15 year > >old > >> > >son who's skin I've never smelled. Not once...> > > > > > Crusher> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

, go to the FILES section of this forum, accessible from

the Home Page of this forum web site. Scroll down all the folders until you

come to the one entitled 'Discounts on Tests and Supplements'. Open the 'Nutri

Ltd.' Folder and order the 120 tablets of Nutri Adrenal Extra, but remember to

use the TPA Reference Code number to claim y our 33% discount.

Start by taking 1 tablet with breakfast. In 1-0 days time, add

another tablet with your lunch. If you need to take more, add another tablet

with breakfast in another 10 days. You can keep increasing in this way until

you are up to 6 tablets daily, but if 6 is not enough, this is an indication

you should be on hydrocortisone. Most people get by on 2 or 3. Don't take any

after 1.00p.m. otherwise, they might keep you awake at night.

Luv - Sheila

Just wondering whether there is anything I am missing as I don't want to have

to delay any treatment the new doc might want to start because of any adrenal

issues. I also have severe apnea ( treated partly successfully with CPAP), and

gluten intolerance ( for which I am now essentially eating gluten free with

good results as far as the gastric upsets are concerned).

Can someone tell me about the andrenal support tablets that are frequently

discussed on here that have adrenal and other tissue added?

,_._,___

[Guest guest]

>

> , go to the FILES section of this forum, accessible from the Home Page

> of this forum web site. Scroll down all the folders until you come to the

> one entitled 'Discounts on Tests and Supplements'. Open the 'Nutri Ltd.'

>

Many thanks Sheila.

Cheers

[Guest guest]

I do not know about your cancer and iodine, but there is a group for LDN which may give you information that may help. I am a walking testament that it is not a scam medicine. Good luck to you

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:36 PM, jdd24rulz <jdd24rulz@...> wrote:

 

Hello,I am new to this group. I have terminal Carcinoid Cancer and I am wondering if doing Iodine supplements will help me beat it. This type of cancer is hormonal. I have walked away from " modern medicine " because they offer me no hope in beating this cancer. I was taking Sandostatin shots monthly to control the tumor growth but I was not getting any results from it. All it did do was destroy my thyroid function. I am not sure how I can approach this with Iodine. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

Jeff

--

Niki

 

GD 1983

CD 1994

PSC 2009

Hashimoto's 2009

Now living well on Low Dose Naltrexone!!

www.LDNScience.org

[Guest guest]

Iodine certainly might help. Also look into  LDN and the work of Stanislav Burzynski.On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, jdd24rulz <jdd24rulz@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

I am new to this group. I have terminal Carcinoid Cancer and I am wondering if doing Iodine supplements will help me beat it. This type of cancer is hormonal. I have walked away from " modern medicine " because they offer me no hope in beating this cancer. I was taking Sandostatin shots monthly to control the tumor growth but I was not getting any results from it. All it did do was destroy my thyroid function. I am not sure how I can approach this with Iodine. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

Jeff

-- " I have come to believe that in the world there is nothing to explain the world. " Loren Eiseley

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeff,

Very sorry to hear you are ill. Have you checked out The Gerson Therapy? It is a very comprehensive alternative cancer therapy. You can find out more about it here. www.gerson.org . They use iodine as part of their therapy. And also natural thyroid hormone. Please check them out. You can also call them and ask questions by calling their office. Their site is very informative and helpful. Best, Kathleen

Newbie

Hello,I am new to this group. I have terminal Carcinoid Cancer and I am wondering if doing Iodine supplements will help me beat it. This type of cancer is hormonal. I have walked away from "modern medicine" because they offer me no hope in beating this cancer. I was taking Sandostatin shots monthly to control the tumor growth but I was not getting any results from it. All it did do was destroy my thyroid function. I am not sure how I can approach this with Iodine. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!Jeff

[Guest guest]

iodine is always good but look at low dose naltrexone.they have a group for cancer and they might be able to help.

alpha lipoic acid plus b-complex is a good addition

http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/ldn_and_cancer.htm

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:36 PM, jdd24rulz <jdd24rulz@...> wrote:

 

Hello,I am new to this group. I have terminal Carcinoid Cancer and I am wondering if doing Iodine supplements will help me beat it. This type of cancer is hormonal. I have walked away from " modern medicine " because they offer me no hope in beating this cancer. I was taking Sandostatin shots monthly to control the tumor growth but I was not getting any results from it. All it did do was destroy my thyroid function. I am not sure how I can approach this with Iodine. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

Jeff

[Guest guest]

Jeff,

I belong to another group on LDN. Have you ever heard of it? Low Dose Naltrexone. I know it is also used for cancer. If you goggle LDN you will get tons of info.

Hope this helps. Please let me know your thoughts after researching. I also take it for many illnesses I have. Basically just started so I really cannot give you an updaate.

From: jdd24rulz <jdd24rulz@...>Subject: Newbieiodine Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 1:36 PM

Hello,I am new to this group. I have terminal Carcinoid Cancer and I am wondering if doing Iodine supplements will help me beat it. This type of cancer is hormonal. I have walked away from "modern medicine" because they offer me no hope in beating this cancer. I was taking Sandostatin shots monthly to control the tumor growth but I was not getting any results from it. All it did do was destroy my thyroid function. I am not sure how I can approach this with Iodine. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!Jeff

[Guest guest]

Hello,Thank you for the information. I will contact Gerson asap!Thanks,JeffFrom: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...>iodine Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:17:52 PMSubject: Re: Newbie

Hi Jeff,

Very sorry to hear you are ill. Have you checked out The Gerson Therapy? It is a very comprehensive alternative cancer therapy. You can find out more about it here. www.gerson.org . They use iodine as part of their therapy. And also natural thyroid hormone. Please check them out. You can also call them and ask questions by calling their office. Their site is very informative and helpful. Best, Kathleen

Newbie

Hello,I am new to this group. I have terminal Carcinoid Cancer and I am wondering if doing Iodine supplements will help me beat it. This type of cancer is hormonal. I have walked away from "modern medicine" because they offer me no hope in beating this cancer. I was taking Sandostatin shots monthly to control the tumor growth but I was not getting any results from it. All it did do was destroy my thyroid function. I am not sure how I can approach this with Iodine. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance!Jeff

[Guest guest]

NatxI would wait the amalgams until after baby is completely weaned. You may consider ALA or other things to help your body rid itself of mercury and further research on that is suggested. Cilantro, ALA, bentonite and many others are typically mentioned. Each may be timed or dosed depending on your situation. Liver cleanse may also be appropriate. 

Salt is important anyways and will taste better than dead salt. 12.5 mg appropriate for your current situation from what I have read here .  Nuts aren't a consistent amount as hard to say how accurate the estimates are. Likely should consider doing selenium at 200 mcg.

 On the skin magnesium is more easily absorbed due to potential diahrrea effects orally. 400 mg typical need. I seem to need about double that to budge my blood levels of magnesium up any. Pam  

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, natalie <fairystar32@...> wrote:

 

Hi

I am a newbie to idoine and started a few weeks ago due to breast issues.

I am currently still breastfeeding but only 1-2 x a day as he is a weaning toddler, so concerened on amounts due to him.

Just checking if my protocol is correct

I havent started the salt yet a I never knew I should, so will start that today

2 drops lugols (have just bought some kelp too, so will have some of that)

I eat 4-5 brazil nuts, amongst many other nuts a day, so havent taken selenium, as I am worried about overdosing and would get the amount from my food?

Magsorb magnesium oil on skin 4 squirts daily.

( I have been told by their customer services that it is approx 110mg in about 4 sprays so will up that today, although more is absorbed apparantly this way than suppliments)

Vit C x 2000 mg

I also take Ultimate greens now and again, black seed oil when I remember and salmon oil and sit daily in the sun for natural D3, here in Brisbane.

I also eat plenty of greens and nuts and sesame/chia/linseeds

Will be having my 2x root canals pulled in the next 2 weeks and early next year removing amalgams, as finances allow.

any other advice and hi to everyone

Natx

[Guest guest]

Hi Thanks

Yep I am waiting the amalgams until early next year, hopefully he is weaned byb

then I have already waited it out 18mths since I decided to remove them..

I will look into the liver cleanse as I have a book on it.

I try to eat plenty of corriander (cilantro) in my food.

I am worried about taing to many things such as chlorella etc.. incase it dumps

excess in my breast milk of metals.

I have increased to 16 squirts at the moment of magensium so around 440 through

the skin, it says on the bottle that you can use up to 30ml for the skin and as

1 ml is 110 mg thats an awful lot?

Selenium wise I think I am going to stick too brazil nuts. From all the studies

I have read they are far superior than selenium suppliments and less likely too

overdose.

They are also more readily absorbed and have been shown in studies, I have read,

too show more selenium in the blood, in comparrison to the equivilant selenium

suppliments. In addition theere was also more antioxidants in the blood who

consumed the nuts.

So I may stick with te nuts for now, I take far too many suppliments and am

trying to keep it as natural as possible.

thanks so much

xx

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Hi

> > I am a newbie to idoine and started a few weeks ago due to breast issues.

> >

> > I am currently still breastfeeding but only 1-2 x a day as he is a weaning

> > toddler, so concerened on amounts due to him.

> >

> > Just checking if my protocol is correct

> >

> > I havent started the salt yet a I never knew I should, so will start that

> > today

> >

> > 2 drops lugols (have just bought some kelp too, so will have some of that)

> >

> > I eat 4-5 brazil nuts, amongst many other nuts a day, so havent taken

> > selenium, as I am worried about overdosing and would get the amount from my

> > food?

> >

> > Magsorb magnesium oil on skin 4 squirts daily.

> > ( I have been told by their customer services that it is approx 110mg in

> > about 4 sprays so will up that today, although more is absorbed apparantly

> > this way than suppliments)

> >

> > Vit C x 2000 mg

> >

> > I also take Ultimate greens now and again, black seed oil when I remember

> > and salmon oil and sit daily in the sun for natural D3, here in Brisbane.

> >

> > I also eat plenty of greens and nuts and sesame/chia/linseeds

> >

> > Will be having my 2x root canals pulled in the next 2 weeks and early next

> > year removing amalgams, as finances allow.

> >

> > any other advice and hi to everyone

> >

> > Natx

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You know how it is with what you read, but according to what I have read, you have it backwards. Some authorities say that you should never take cilantro without chlorella, because cilantro is what stirs up the mercury & chlorella is what escorts it out of the body.AnneOn Aug 10, 2011, at 3:30 PM, natalie wrote:

Hi Thanks

Yep I am waiting the amalgams until early next year, hopefully he is weaned byb then I have already waited it out 18mths since I decided to remove them..

I will look into the liver cleanse as I have a book on it.

I try to eat plenty of corriander (cilantro) in my food.

I am worried about taing to many things such as chlorella etc.. incase it dumps excess in my breast milk of metals.

I have increased to 16 squirts at the moment of magensium so around 440 through the skin, it says on the bottle that you can use up to 30ml for the skin and as 1 ml is 110 mg thats an awful lot?

Selenium wise I think I am going to stick too brazil nuts. From all the studies I have read they are far superior than selenium suppliments and less likely too overdose.

They are also more readily absorbed and have been shown in studies, I have read, too show more selenium in the blood, in comparrison to the equivilant selenium suppliments. In addition theere was also more antioxidants in the blood who consumed the nuts.

So I may stick with te nuts for now, I take far too many suppliments and am trying to keep it as natural as possible.

thanks so much

xx

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Hi

> > I am a newbie to idoine and started a few weeks ago due to breast issues.

> >

> > I am currently still breastfeeding but only 1-2 x a day as he is a weaning

> > toddler, so concerened on amounts due to him.

> >

> > Just checking if my protocol is correct

> >

> > I havent started the salt yet a I never knew I should, so will start that

> > today

> >

> > 2 drops lugols (have just bought some kelp too, so will have some of that)

> >

> > I eat 4-5 brazil nuts, amongst many other nuts a day, so havent taken

> > selenium, as I am worried about overdosing and would get the amount from my

> > food?

> >

> > Magsorb magnesium oil on skin 4 squirts daily.

> > ( I have been told by their customer services that it is approx 110mg in

> > about 4 sprays so will up that today, although more is absorbed apparantly

> > this way than suppliments)

> >

> > Vit C x 2000 mg

> >

> > I also take Ultimate greens now and again, black seed oil when I remember

> > and salmon oil and sit daily in the sun for natural D3, here in Brisbane.

> >

> > I also eat plenty of greens and nuts and sesame/chia/linseeds

> >

> > Will be having my 2x root canals pulled in the next 2 weeks and early next

> > year removing amalgams, as finances allow.

> >

> > any other advice and hi to everyone

> >

> > Natx

> >

> >

> >

>