PS-Even my really good, nice DR thought my collagen disorder was Fibromyalgia

[Guest guest]

My current really nice doctor was saying she might have to diagnose

me with Fibromyalgia, she really didn't know that the collagen

problems would cause it all, I didn't really have specific pressure-

points that the Fibro diagnosis usually needs tho, so I don't think

she actually wrote it down, just told me that's what she's

considering.

The way I found the collagen help in the first place was that

progesterone was clearly too active, so I looked for something that

suppressed progesterone, and came up with a hormone called Relaxin,

in a supplement called Vitalaxin ( www.immunesupport.com ) (there's a

supplement out there called relaxin but it's just herbs to help

people sleep, it's not the actual hormone) which also helps collagen

production. It did help me a lot, but it was also adding another

hormone in to the mix, and was expensive, so I kept looking. Turns

out that relaxin may not directly suppress progesterone, but the

collagen it produces DOES suppress it, and the estradiol too, so I

asked my doctor " could it really be this simple? " after years of

research, that collagen supplementation's sold in the health food

store. I had ignorantly assumed it was some hollywood expensive

surigcal treatment, I'm not known for assuming, sorry I did it for a

few months...but when I found that collagen suppresses the hormones,

I finally I looked it up and found that the liquid collagen has more

than one type in it (the pills only have type 2 from chicken and it

doesn't address all the problems scolisis patients have) is sold in

stores, for cheaper than the relaxin hormone.

The other really BIG, unexpected part of getting a real live actual

healing is the unexpected reactions from my family. My daughter was

all happy and crying too cuz she'd seen what I've gone through. My

parents who live far away, mom's in Florida and my dad's in

Australia, both normally would have been happy & supportive but boy

they slopped a heap of denial and crud on me first. It was like their

brains were NOT accepting that they had a daughter with this many

challenges and that I really survived through so much AND did

everything to raise my daughter alone (and in a big way I think they

both felt like dirt for not being here to help me more, so denial was

the order of the day to keep their brains from snapping). There were

really heated and tearful discussions of how " no one goes through

that! " was kind of funny in a really sad way, like if they basically

called me a liar it would make their distance and lack of helping

OK... They snapped out of it eventually and admitted they just

couldn't accept what I'd been saying for more than a decade was true,

I really WAS in that much pain, and they really were denying it cuz

they felt like wimps next to me by moving away for being in slight

discomfort from the cold here... and I was going through so much more

but they didn't want to see it.

So as they say, be careful of what you ask for, cuz you just might

get it. Getting that sudden healing was a bigger thing for ME to

accept than I thought possible too. When I realized " oh yay I can

walk and not hurt, I can move and not hurt...! " it also came with a

sad feeling about what I had been through for so many years, why my

house wasn't as scrubbed as I wanted it to be (still cleaner than any

other friends I would visit, so I guess I did OK a whole lot of

things. And how great of a job I've done over the years raising my

daughter alone, all the furniture I moved all SORTS of things...

Mainly a deeply-disturbed feeling after seeing even my world-reknown

scoliosis surgeon say " I don't know, " when I figured it out without

even putting enough credits together to get my associates' degree

(yes, I have a Mensa membership card, but still, how could someone be

world-class at physically fixing scoliosis and never ask how does it

get caused and what else does it affect?). It's a happy celebration,

but with a disturbing quietness late at night after the party dies

down.

-Alison

[Guest guest]

Hi, Alison: I googled " Scoliosis and Collagen " and found quite a few articles

about this theory. I'm amazed that I have never heard this before!

Debbie

Alison <planet2334@...> wrote:

My current really nice doctor was saying she might have to diagnose

me with Fibromyalgia, she really didn't know that the collagen

problems would cause it all, I didn't really have specific pressure-

points that the Fibro diagnosis usually needs tho, so I don't think

she actually wrote it down, just told me that's what she's

considering.

The way I found the collagen help in the first place was that

progesterone was clearly too active, so I looked for something that

suppressed progesterone, and came up with a hormone called Relaxin,

in a supplement called Vitalaxin ( www.immunesupport.com ) (there's a

supplement out there called relaxin but it's just herbs to help

people sleep, it's not the actual hormone) which also helps collagen

production. It did help me a lot, but it was also adding another

hormone in to the mix, and was expensive, so I kept looking. Turns

out that relaxin may not directly suppress progesterone, but the

collagen it produces DOES suppress it, and the estradiol too, so I

asked my doctor " could it really be this simple? " after years of

research, that collagen supplementation's sold in the health food

store. I had ignorantly assumed it was some hollywood expensive

surigcal treatment, I'm not known for assuming, sorry I did it for a

few months...but when I found that collagen suppresses the hormones,

I finally I looked it up and found that the liquid collagen has more

than one type in it (the pills only have type 2 from chicken and it

doesn't address all the problems scolisis patients have) is sold in

stores, for cheaper than the relaxin hormone.

The other really BIG, unexpected part of getting a real live actual

healing is the unexpected reactions from my family. My daughter was

all happy and crying too cuz she'd seen what I've gone through. My

parents who live far away, mom's in Florida and my dad's in

Australia, both normally would have been happy & supportive but boy

they slopped a heap of denial and crud on me first. It was like their

brains were NOT accepting that they had a daughter with this many

challenges and that I really survived through so much AND did

everything to raise my daughter alone (and in a big way I think they

both felt like dirt for not being here to help me more, so denial was

the order of the day to keep their brains from snapping). There were

really heated and tearful discussions of how " no one goes through

that! " was kind of funny in a really sad way, like if they basically

called me a liar it would make their distance and lack of helping

OK... They snapped out of it eventually and admitted they just

couldn't accept what I'd been saying for more than a decade was true,

I really WAS in that much pain, and they really were denying it cuz

they felt like wimps next to me by moving away for being in slight

discomfort from the cold here... and I was going through so much more

but they didn't want to see it.

So as they say, be careful of what you ask for, cuz you just might

get it. Getting that sudden healing was a bigger thing for ME to

accept than I thought possible too. When I realized " oh yay I can

walk and not hurt, I can move and not hurt...! " it also came with a

sad feeling about what I had been through for so many years, why my

house wasn't as scrubbed as I wanted it to be (still cleaner than any

other friends I would visit, so I guess I did OK a whole lot of

things. And how great of a job I've done over the years raising my

daughter alone, all the furniture I moved all SORTS of things...

Mainly a deeply-disturbed feeling after seeing even my world-reknown

scoliosis surgeon say " I don't know, " when I figured it out without

even putting enough credits together to get my associates' degree

(yes, I have a Mensa membership card, but still, how could someone be

world-class at physically fixing scoliosis and never ask how does it

get caused and what else does it affect?). It's a happy celebration,

but with a disturbing quietness late at night after the party dies

down.

-Alison