Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Hi Nutraceutical or cosmeceutical, such words are coined to derive the acomparative advantage to the term pharmaceutical. It is unfortunate that such gimmickery succeeds.But such terms need to be objected, criticised and condemned. As regards manufacturing under Ayurvedic brands, this is grossly misused in India. If international brands like Vicks and Iodex sell in India as Ayurvedic medicines to escape the excise, what else to expect? The concerned regulators are aware of such gross exploitation of the concession meant for indigenous science of health - Ayurveda, but pose to be deaf and mute.The result is that country continues to loose millions as taxes and excise duties. Not many dare to discuss such issues. I am proud that we are the class apart and have started taking a stand atleast. Please support this initiative with public advocacy with a nice blow up in the media. Rajendra Diwe has been doing that so well. Once more please. We are seriously looking for one activist to send the NetRUM discussion jist to the concerned authorities.Because those who ought to work right are not doing so, they need to be told. Anyone volunteering to do this thankless job? Vijay netrum , " Rajendra D.Diwe " <rajendradiwe@...> wrote: > > Dear Dr. Anupama > There is no such term cosmeceuticals in any book of pharmaceutics or > pharmaceutical chemistry. This is a term of marketing gimmicks by the > great Pharmaceutical Companies of all over the world. Now I would > like to share a best example of this with you. You must be knowing > Vicco Vajradanti Tooth Powder and Tooth Paste. Also many products > like Vicco turmeric, Vicco SOS cream etc. The company is claiming > that these products are not cosmetic but are ayurvedic medicines. Now > I would like to tell you that there is no such Ayurvedic > manufacturing as per the ancient books of Ayurveda which reflectes > what is emulsion, what is a cream or ointment. These are the > dosageforms according to modern medicine. Now these are the products > as per the definition are only cosmetics as in cosmetic technology > the definitions of creams, emulsions, aerosols, etc are given. But in > India to manufacture any cosmetic a company has to pay more than 300% > excise duty. To save the duty, the manufacturer has sharpely put the > product under Ayurvedic Proprietary Medicine saying that it is not a > cosmetic but is a ayurvedic product. I think if you consider this > live example from India you will be able to know the Genesis of the > term Coemeceutical. This may be the case all over the world. Hence, > like Nutraceuticals i.e. adding some component of nutritional > supplement to B complex the pharmaceutical companies are selling the > food supplement at exhorbitant price and without any control or > regulations. In the same way, Adding some cosmetic element to the > drug preparation, the manufacturers can save number of things like > excise duty, sales tax, other taxes and in addition, they can be out > of the regulations or any control. Hence, the discussion also should > focus on the regulations, excise duties on drugs and cosmetics and > other criterias of manufacturing and selling. This is my opinion > Thanks for conducting such a wonderful discussion > Rajendra Diwe > > > > Dear Netrumians, > > Welcome to the discussion on " Rationale of Cosmeceuticals " from > 1st to 7th May 2008 > > Background: > > Cosmeceuticals are cosmetic products that are claimed, > primarily by those within the cosmetic industry, to have drug-like > benefits. Examples of products typically labeled as cosmeceuticals > include anti-aging creams and moisturizers. The word is a portmanteau > of the words " cosmetic " and " pharmaceutical " . > > However, according to the United States Food and Drug > Administration (FDA), the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act " does not > recognize any such category as " cosmeceuticals. " A product can be a > drug, a cosmetic, or a combination of both, but the > term " cosmeceutical " has no meaning under the law " . > > > > What is your opinion on Cosmeceuticals as drugs? > > What is the status of Cosmeceuticals in India? > > > > Dr Bashaar has already initiated the discussion. > > Waiting for valuable inputs from our dearest members. > > > > -Anupama Sukhlecha > > Moderator > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click > here. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Hi, If Mr Rajendra is interested, both of us will try this as a joint effort. Which are the e-mail IDs or websites through which we can send the gist? -AnupamaVijay <drvijaythawani@...> wrote: HiNutraceutical or cosmeceutical, such words are coined to derive the acomparative advantage to the term pharmaceutical. It is unfortunate that such gimmickery succeeds.But such terms need to be objected, criticised and condemned.As regards manufacturing under Ayurvedic brands, this is grossly misused in India. If international brands like Vicks and Iodex sell in India as Ayurvedic medicines to escape the excise, what else to expect? The concerned regulators are aware of such gross exploitation of the concession meant for indigenous science of health - Ayurveda, but pose to be deaf and mute.The result is that country continues to loose millions as taxes and excise duties.Not many dare to discuss such issues. I am proud that we are the class apart and have started taking a stand atleast. Please support this initiative with public advocacy with a nice blow up in the media. Rajendra Diwe has been doing that so well. Once more please.We are seriously looking for one activist to send the NetRUM discussion jist to the concerned authorities.Because those who ought to work right are not doing so, they need to be told. Anyone volunteering to do this thankless job?Vijaynetrum , "Rajendra D.Diwe" <rajendradiwe@...> wrote:>> Dear Dr. Anupama> There is no such term cosmeceuticals in any book of pharmaceutics or > pharmaceutical chemistry. This is a term of marketing gimmicks by the > great Pharmaceutical Companies of all over the world. Now I would > like to share a best example of this with you. You must be knowing > Vicco Vajradanti Tooth Powder and Tooth Paste. Also many products > like Vicco turmeric, Vicco SOS cream etc. The company is claiming > that these products are not cosmetic but are ayurvedic medicines. Now > I would like to tell you that there is no such Ayurvedic > manufacturing as per the ancient books of Ayurveda which reflectes > what is emulsion, what is a cream or ointment. These are the > dosageforms according to modern medicine. Now these are the products > as per the definition are only cosmetics as in cosmetic technology > the definitions of creams, emulsions, aerosols, etc are given. But in > India to manufacture any cosmetic a company has to pay more than 300% > excise duty. To save the duty, the manufacturer has sharpely put the > product under Ayurvedic Proprietary Medicine saying that it is not a > cosmetic but is a ayurvedic product. I think if you consider this > live example from India you will be able to know the Genesis of the > term Coemeceutical. This may be the case all over the world. Hence, > like Nutraceuticals i.e. adding some component of nutritional > supplement to B complex the pharmaceutical companies are selling the > food supplement at exhorbitant price and without any control or > regulations. In the same way, Adding some cosmetic element to the > drug preparation, the manufacturers can save number of things like > excise duty, sales tax, other taxes and in addition, they can be out > of the regulations or any control. Hence, the discussion also should > focus on the regulations, excise duties on drugs and cosmetics and > other criterias of manufacturing and selling. This is my opinion> Thanks for conducting such a wonderful discussion> Rajendra Diwe> >> > Dear Netrumians,> > Welcome to the discussion on "Rationale of Cosmeceuticals" from > 1st to 7th May 2008> > Background:> > Cosmeceuticals are cosmetic products that are claimed, > primarily by those within the cosmetic industry, to have drug-like > benefits. Examples of products typically labeled as cosmeceuticals > include anti-aging creams and moisturizers. The word is a portmanteau > of the words "cosmetic" and "pharmaceutical".> > However, according to the United States Food and Drug > Administration (FDA), the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act "does not > recognize any such category as "cosmeceuticals." A product can be a > drug, a cosmetic, or a combination of both, but the > term "cosmeceutical" has no meaning under the law".> > > > What is your opinion on Cosmeceuticals as drugs?> > What is the status of Cosmeceuticals in India?> > > > Dr Bashaar has already initiated the discussion. > > Waiting for valuable inputs from our dearest members.> > > > -Anupama Sukhlecha> > Moderator> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click > here.> >> Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hi, Rajendra's E-mail Id you will get on right hand side of his post on NetRUM.If he wants to give you some other ID to correspond, it is his choice. Vijay > > > > > > Dear Netrumians, > > > Welcome to the discussion on " Rationale of Cosmeceuticals " from > > 1st to 7th May 2008 > > > Background: > > > Cosmeceuticals are cosmetic products that are claimed, > > primarily by those within the cosmetic industry, to have drug- like > > benefits. Examples of products typically labeled as cosmeceuticals > > include anti-aging creams and moisturizers. The word is a > portmanteau > > of the words " cosmetic " and " pharmaceutical " . > > > However, according to the United States Food and Drug > > Administration (FDA), the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act " does not > > recognize any such category as " cosmeceuticals. " A product can be a > > drug, a cosmetic, or a combination of both, but the > > term " cosmeceutical " has no meaning under the law " . > > > > > > What is your opinion on Cosmeceuticals as drugs? > > > What is the status of Cosmeceuticals in India? > > > > > > Dr Bashaar has already initiated the discussion. > > > Waiting for valuable inputs from our dearest members. > > > > > > -Anupama Sukhlecha > > > Moderator > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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