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Lucy,

*hugs* hon. Sorry it's so rough for you right now.

I don't know about the moral/ethical ramifications for you for using

marijuana...but if it would help to ease that, there is a legal drug

(Marinol) that is marijuana in pill form...same stuff, different method,

totally legal.

*hugs*

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ohhhlucy wrote:

> I am so frustrated with the pain and the uncomfortable feeling in my

> tummy...I don't know what else to do at this point...my doc has

> suggested marijuana....and coming from a home with my dad being a

> minister and my granddad being chief of police...it really isn't

> something that I have ever given thought to. Does anyone on the list

> use medicinal marijuana? Does it really help? I am 5 foot tall and

> weigh at this time about 107....20 lbs of that is the kidney that has

> enlarged.....I am losing weight very fast and he thinks that it would

> help with appetite also...since the pain causes nausea.....hence

> forth....I don't eat and lose weight....any suggestions or comments

> would greatly help at this time.I can't take the pain killers because

> they don't filter through my kidney...I take what I can and it doesn't

> even take the edge off any more....I am so confused! Love, Lucy

>

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well it will help the appetite and help a bit on pain it helps a lot of you have convulsions epilepsy or similar I have a sister in law that is legal on it hear in Canada mind you she can not buy it legally but she is aloud to smoke it any way stupid rules which there trying to change you said you do not take pain killers have you tried morphine sulfate it will not affect you liver or kidneys as far as I know that is why my doc switch me to it and I have a high tolerance fro drugs so the dosage it quite high for me but it does help for pain and it also helps for some stomach pain as have as well just a thought

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-----Original Message-----From: ohhhlucy [mailto:ohhhlucy@...]Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Pain...

I am so frustrated with the pain and the uncomfortable feeling in my tummy...I don't know what else to do at this point...my doc has suggested marijuana....and coming from a home with my dad being a minister and my granddad being chief of police...it really isn't something that I have ever given thought to. Does anyone on the list use medicinal marijuana? Does it really help? I am 5 foot tall and weigh at this time about 107....20 lbs of that is the kidney that has enlarged.....I am losing weight very fast and he thinks that it would help with appetite also...since the pain causes nausea.....hence forth....I don't eat and lose weight....any suggestions or comments would greatly help at this time.

I can't take the pain killers because they don't filter through my kidney...I take what I can and it doesn't even take the edge off any more....I am so confused! Love, Lucy~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityVisual problems with colors?Click the link below and select the modify link to your right. Then select the **Send Plain Text Email** option. This will stop you receiving emails with colored or enlarged fonts./joinMembers Lounge:-Photo Album, memorial page, members profiles, birthdays, locations, medical resources, counselling via email and a whole bunch of free things.http://www.elderwyn.com/members Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet./files/chat.htmBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator either via email <-owner > Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

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My neurologist said not to worry about taking prescription pain meds, as opposed to over-the-counter. If the marijuana is legally prescribed by your doctor, then I would try it. It is just as bad, or good, as any other drug. We have just decided at this point in our society that some drugs are EVIL and some are okay.

Lee

son <paulsons5@...> wrote:

Does anyone on the list usemedicinal marijuana? Does it really help? I am 5 foot tall and weigh at this time about 107....20 lbs ofthat is the kidney that has enlarged.....I am losing weight very fast and he thinks that it wouldhelp with appetite also...since the pain causes nausea.....hence forth....I don't eat and loseweight....any suggestions or comments would greatly help at this time.I can't take the pain killers because they don'tfilter through my kidney...I take what I can and it doesn't even take the edge off any more....I am soconfused! Love, LucyDear Lucy,Sounds like you have a great Dr, a real one, thatreally wants to help. I used to work for Hospice, and I cant tell you howmany people have told me they thought it worked like amiracle. I dont think there is anything better fornausea, and I know it helped thier pain too. And youget "the munchies". And you might even laugh a little.Please look it up, there's tons of info now. And dontbe scared, the side effects are the good parts, muchless dangerous than any rx you could get. It will make you feel better.

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Dear Lucy,

I'm sorry you are in so much pain and can't take painkillers.

Also, I have been clean and sober for more than 16 years now and marijuana

was always my drug of choice during my using days. It was the first thing

I had to conquer and I did. However, if I thought for one minute that marijuana

could alleviate my pain or prevent me from going blind I would not hesitate

to use it. This is the only life I have and I am not going to let anyone

deter me from making decisions regarding my well-being. Just because my

body doesn't work right doesn't mean I should have any qualms about smoking

pot to feel better, or even to keep from getting worse.

At this point, I think I would encourage you to try it. Only you can

make the final decision about it. Not your father or your grandfather.

They will have prejudices against it, but you are the one with the illness.

So YOU decide, not them.

Good luck,

fbertaud@...

ohhhlucy wrote:

I am so frustrated with the pain and the uncomfortable feeling in my tummy...I don't know what else to do at this point...my doc has suggested marijuana....and coming from a home with my dad being a minister and my granddad being chief of police...it really isn't something that I have ever given thought to. Does anyone on the list use medicinal marijuana? Does it really help? I am 5 foot tall and weigh at this time about 107....20 lbs of that is the kidney that has enlarged.....I am losing weight very fast and he thinks that it would help with appetite also...since the pain causes nausea.....hence forth....I don't eat and lose weight....any suggestions or comments would greatly help at this time.

I can't take the pain killers because they don't filter through my kidney...I take what I can and it doesn't even take the edge off any more....I am so confused! Love, Lucy

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In a message dated 3/29/2004 2:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, jneal@... writes:

having alot more chest pain notice the increase of frequency...just off my left shoulder blade...not center but to the left...having pain there..and it comes and go...constant then goes away for awhile...notice it's usually about a hour or so after I eat.....do you think it's all related.jan in West KY

Jan,

just curious, have you had a stress test to rule out any heart problems?

When I first had chest pain and pressure feeling my family doctor had me take one to rule out my heart. I have tremendous chest pain most of the time after eating and drinking.

Jan in Northern KY

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I've had every test you can think of...especially heart......this just really

started

a few weeks ago.... You know it seems this disease is constant on my mind...it

just doesn't let you forget about it.

jan

> In a message dated 3/29/2004 2:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jneal@o...

> writes:

> having alot more chest pain notice the increase of frequency...just

> off my left shoulder blade...not center but to the left...having pain

> there..and it comes and go...constant then goes away for

> awhile...notice it's usually about a hour or so after I eat.....do

> you think it's all related.

>

> jan in West KY

> Jan,

> just curious, have you had a stress test to rule out any heart problems?

> When I first had chest pain and pressure feeling my family doctor had me

take

> one to rule out my heart. I have tremendous chest pain most of the time after

> eating and drinking.

> Jan in Northern KY

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In a message dated 3/30/2004 8:05:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, jneal@... writes:

I've had every test you can think of...especially heart......this just really started a few weeks ago.... You know it seems this disease is constant on my mind...it just doesn't let you forget about it.jan

You know that is true, you have a point there. The only time I feel close to "okay" is when I don't eat much at all. As long as I eat only a little bit a few times a day, I can almost forget about it. I guess thats why it is a struggle for me, who struggled to keep my weight down before, to now keep some weight on. I have gone from a size 14 to a size 4. People ask me if I am going to dissapear soon!

If eating food wasn't so painful and uncomfortable, I'd still be a size 14, I guess.

Jan in Northern KY(glad that spring finally seems to have come)

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That is exactly where my pain is too. Intense pain. For me it's not always

after eating, sometimes I wake up with it. I have a small rubber ball that

I put on the floor to lay on and match it up with the painfull spot. It

seems to do something for the pressure point. And as I've told others, my

pain is so fierce I take demerol for it.

Sorry to hear about the frequency. How often?

Kat

>From: JMB000001@...

>Reply-achalasia

>achalasia

>Subject: Re: pain...

>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:12:23 EST

>

>In a message dated 3/29/2004 2:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>jneal@...

>writes:

>having alot more chest pain notice the increase of frequency...just

>off my left shoulder blade...not center but to the left...having pain

>there..and it comes and go...constant then goes away for

>awhile...notice it's usually about a hour or so after I eat.....do

>you think it's all related.

>

>jan in West KY

>Jan,

>just curious, have you had a stress test to rule out any heart problems?

>When I first had chest pain and pressure feeling my family doctor had me

>take

>one to rule out my heart. I have tremendous chest pain most of the time

>after

>eating and drinking.

>Jan in Northern KY

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Jan,

You are not alone I have gone from a size 42 pants to a size 29 and having trouble finding pants in my size in the boys section. I do my best to try to keep the weight on.

Eat what stays down.

Ramon

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:37:40 EST JMB000001@... writes:

In a message dated 3/30/2004 8:05:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, jneal@... writes:

I've had every test you can think of...especially heart......this just really started a few weeks ago.... You know it seems this disease is constant on my mind...it just doesn't let you forget about it.jan

You know that is true, you have a point there. The only time I feel close to "okay" is when I don't eat much at all. As long as I eat only a little bit a few times a day, I can almost forget about it. I guess thats why it is a struggle for me, who struggled to keep my weight down before, to now keep some weight on. I have gone from a size 14 to a size 4. People ask me if I am going to dissapear soon!

If eating food wasn't so painful and uncomfortable, I'd still be a size 14, I guess.

Jan in Northern KY(glad that spring finally seems to have come)

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Heating pad on my back helps to relive the pain and relax.

heat patches also work for me.

Ramon

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:33:35 +0000 " katrina clutesi "

<kclutesi@...> writes:

> That is exactly where my pain is too. Intense pain. For me it's not

> always

> after eating, sometimes I wake up with it. I have a small rubber

> ball that

> I put on the floor to lay on and match it up with the painfull spot.

> It

> seems to do something for the pressure point. And as I've told

> others, my

> pain is so fierce I take demerol for it.

>

> Sorry to hear about the frequency. How often?

>

> Kat

>

>

> >From: JMB000001@...

> >Reply-achalasia

> >achalasia

> >Subject: Re: pain...

> >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:12:23 EST

> >

> >In a message dated 3/29/2004 2:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> >jneal@...

> >writes:

> >having alot more chest pain notice the increase of

> frequency...just

> >off my left shoulder blade...not center but to the left...having

> pain

> >there..and it comes and go...constant then goes away for

> >awhile...notice it's usually about a hour or so after I eat.....do

> >you think it's all related.

> >

> >jan in West KY

> >Jan,

> >just curious, have you had a stress test to rule out any heart

> problems?

> >When I first had chest pain and pressure feeling my family doctor

> had me

> >take

> >one to rule out my heart. I have tremendous chest pain most of the

> time

> >after

> >eating and drinking.

> >Jan in Northern KY

>

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Kat wrote:

> And as I've told others, my pain is so fierce I take demerol for it.

Kat, have you had a chance to look into any of those other methods I

mentioned??? I was wondering if any of them worked for you, or if you had

even had a chance to talk to your doc about it yet.

Debbi in Michigan

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Debbi,

I've tried everything for pain. Thanks for the suggestions- I have tried

most of them over the years. I even tried a pretzel the other day but it

didn't seem to help. I have tried getting other types of food stuck before,

but I thought maybe there would be something magical about the pretzel.

Thanks for checking in with me. My doc. has suggested muscle relaxers like

robaxacet. They help a little, but are really pricey. I haven't tried the

antidepressants. I'll bring it up with my Doc. next visit. Thanks again.

Kat

>From: " Debbi Heiser " <heiser@...>

>Reply-achalasia

>achalasia

>Subject: Re: pain...

>Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:11:12 -0500 (EST)

>

>Kat wrote:

>

> > And as I've told others, my pain is so fierce I take demerol for it.

>

>Kat, have you had a chance to look into any of those other methods I

>mentioned??? I was wondering if any of them worked for you, or if you had

>even had a chance to talk to your doc about it yet.

>

>Debbi in Michigan

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