Truth and Dare

[Guest guest]

The debate continues to rage over the effectiveness of the " flush " in

cleaning stones out of gb's.

I have worked hard over the past two years to keep my little gb sac

and find that the changes to my eating habits are not so hard. The

gb/liver flush is NOT a complete cure for ALL stone sufferers, but it

is the CURE for some. Why does it work for some and not others? I

wish I knew!

Friends of mine have done the flush once or twice and have eliminated

ALL symptoms that in some cases have plagued them for many years. I

have had 5 attacks over two years, all can be traced back to eating

milk products or fried foods.

The past 6 months my digestion has been fabulous. Just a few weeks

ago I started eating frozen yogourt again and began feeling some gb

symptoms. I did another flush last week and got 20-30

smallish " greenies. " These greenies were evaluated by a pathologist

who at first called them gb " stones. " Then upon further evaluation

he was surprised that the green outside produced a clearer, lighter

green inside. He said most gb stones are brown on the inside.

He took the stones with him for further evaluation. His last

comments were that he thought they might be liver sludge.

I believe that the bottom line with the flush must be:

The flush IS effective for some people... it seems most effective

for those with cholestorol stones and not as effective with calcified

stones. The flush cannot hurt you, but may prove to be a simple

effective cure. If doctors were really concerned for their patients

they would FIRST teach them the simple steps to a healthy gb that are

deliniated on this web site prior to recommending gb surgery, except

in emergencies.

Each person must weigh the benefits of each approach for

themselves, but you cannot weigh the " flsuh " option until you have

tried it for 3-4 flushes over a 9-12 month period. I weigh less,

feel much better and have NO aches and pains like I used to have.

This could be my flaxseede oil each morning, or avoidance of dairy,

or fewer stones to clog my ducts. Whatever it is... for right now it

is working better than surgery!

ken

[Guest guest]

Ken - I expect its all three. I echo your sentiments that the flush

shouls be tried first. On the color of the stones, lighter means

newer. In my experience sludge comes out as sludge rather than stones

(in my case nearly all on the second flush) but the stones do begin

in the liver. There is undoubtedly a lot of benefit in removing this

liver sludge. It is important to lie still immediately on taking the

oil, as less success seems to follow otherwise. I tried being upright

one time thinking it might be better but it wasnt. Calcified stones

might need extra softening or unstiking from their location; perhaps

a slightly different procedure can be found. However, unless the

stones are very big, time should do the trick - ie a number of

flushes. Also, many people dont realise just how common food

intolerances to wheat (gluten) and milk (lactose) are - and how

ubiquitously these are used in a large variety of processed foods.

Also, likely to cause similar unpleasant tummy aches - nitates in

preserved meats and hormones in meat and dairy. Also hydrogenated

oils (which do not naturally occur in any food). Too much sugar

(well, any really) might lead to such aches also in some people -

besides accelerating aging. Insufficient water. Too many stimulants

(coffe, cola), fizzy drinks, too much protein (especially animal

protein because of the saturate fats taken along with it),

insufficient fibre may also lead to tummy pains. Also eating too

fast, acidity imbalance ... - well, I think that's the main ones.

K

> The debate continues to rage over the effectiveness of the " flush "

in

> cleaning stones out of gb's.

>

> I have worked hard over the past two years to keep my little gb sac

> and find that the changes to my eating habits are not so hard. The

> gb/liver flush is NOT a complete cure for ALL stone sufferers, but

it

> is the CURE for some. Why does it work for some and not others? I

> wish I knew!

>

> Friends of mine have done the flush once or twice and have

eliminated

> ALL symptoms that in some cases have plagued them for many years.

I

> have had 5 attacks over two years, all can be traced back to eating

> milk products or fried foods.

>

> The past 6 months my digestion has been fabulous. Just a few weeks

> ago I started eating frozen yogourt again and began feeling some gb

> symptoms. I did another flush last week and got 20-30

> smallish " greenies. " These greenies were evaluated by a

pathologist

> who at first called them gb " stones. " Then upon further evaluation

> he was surprised that the green outside produced a clearer, lighter

> green inside. He said most gb stones are brown on the inside.

>

> He took the stones with him for further evaluation. His last

> comments were that he thought they might be liver sludge.

>

> I believe that the bottom line with the flush must be:

>

> The flush IS effective for some people... it seems most

effective

> for those with cholestorol stones and not as effective with

calcified

> stones. The flush cannot hurt you, but may prove to be a simple

> effective cure. If doctors were really concerned for their

patients

> they would FIRST teach them the simple steps to a healthy gb that

are

> deliniated on this web site prior to recommending gb surgery,

except

> in emergencies.

>

> Each person must weigh the benefits of each approach for

> themselves, but you cannot weigh the " flsuh " option until you have

> tried it for 3-4 flushes over a 9-12 month period. I weigh less,

> feel much better and have NO aches and pains like I used to have.

> This could be my flaxseede oil each morning, or avoidance of dairy,

> or fewer stones to clog my ducts. Whatever it is... for right now

it

> is working better than surgery!

>

> ken