Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I did a quick run on the stats, and I came up with: These are all est. but I'm guessing about 360 Calories, Protein 15g, Carbs 9g, and Fat 10g, because of the PB. it makes it a bit high in calories and fat, but I have on occasion omitted the P.B., but for a major craving you should not omit the P.B., I think that is what really makes you for fill the...well, craving! It really does the trick for me, I actually got this from someone on here, about 2 months ago, and they had called it Peanut Butter, Chocolate Soup. ~ snoopywithtwins <snoopywithtwins@...> wrote: --- that sounds awesome...what do you think the calorie content is for that? val In , Kerr <alexemmekerr@y...> wrote: > You know what I always have on hand for my binging...I ALWAYS make sure I have sugar free fudge pops in the freezer... > You take one of those melt it for like 5 sec. in the microwave, add one splenda packet, 1/2 scoop of chocolate protein powder, 2 tbs of fat free cool whip, and 1 tsp. of peanut butter...stir away, and enjoy a almost guilt free binge. > > Today is a new day! You go girl!! > > ~ > > Michele A Templeman <mbtempleman@j...> wrote: > Ok I did great through afternoon on my day 1 then we had the usual fight > about doing chores and homework with my 9 year old daughter and I ate > terrible the rest of the night! I also went and spent $100 at Hobby > Lobby See so I have to bad habits when I am stressed. I do usually > make it through til night and that is when I will binge if I am starving. > Usually stress isn't a huge factor I have gotten that under control most > of the time it is usually the binge because I am starving. Sooooo what > can I do eat an extra apple or free vegetables to help this? > > I might be the only one that has to count my screw up as a free meal on > DAY 1 LOL! Ok it is now in the past I am going to do good today promise > as otherwise I will have to fess up tomorrow to you all. > Michele T. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I did a quick run on the stats, and I came up with: These are all est. but I'm guessing about 360 Calories, Protein 15g, Carbs 9g, and Fat 10g, because of the PB. it makes it a bit high in calories and fat, but I have on occasion omitted the P.B., but for a major craving you should not omit the P.B., I think that is what really makes you for fill the...well, craving! It really does the trick for me, I actually got this from someone on here, about 2 months ago, and they had called it Peanut Butter, Chocolate Soup. ~ snoopywithtwins <snoopywithtwins@...> wrote: --- that sounds awesome...what do you think the calorie content is for that? val In , Kerr <alexemmekerr@y...> wrote: > You know what I always have on hand for my binging...I ALWAYS make sure I have sugar free fudge pops in the freezer... > You take one of those melt it for like 5 sec. in the microwave, add one splenda packet, 1/2 scoop of chocolate protein powder, 2 tbs of fat free cool whip, and 1 tsp. of peanut butter...stir away, and enjoy a almost guilt free binge. > > Today is a new day! You go girl!! > > ~ > > Michele A Templeman <mbtempleman@j...> wrote: > Ok I did great through afternoon on my day 1 then we had the usual fight > about doing chores and homework with my 9 year old daughter and I ate > terrible the rest of the night! I also went and spent $100 at Hobby > Lobby See so I have to bad habits when I am stressed. I do usually > make it through til night and that is when I will binge if I am starving. > Usually stress isn't a huge factor I have gotten that under control most > of the time it is usually the binge because I am starving. Sooooo what > can I do eat an extra apple or free vegetables to help this? > > I might be the only one that has to count my screw up as a free meal on > DAY 1 LOL! Ok it is now in the past I am going to do good today promise > as otherwise I will have to fess up tomorrow to you all. > Michele T. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Tom, I'm still hear and reading posts. Much of my attention lately has been on the Katrina aftermath. What has my interest is how there were plans and all that, but they weren't followed. Also, the politics that is brewing up would be amusing if it weren't so serious. Its just amazing how this tradegy is being twisted and abused by politicians looking to score points for themselves. I haven't been posting about what I have been learning because of how much contention my other posts created. I will say one thing though. The rebuilding cost is expected to reach $100 billion or more. For that kind of money, almost all coming from taxpayers outside of New Orleans and from insurance companies (which are also paid for by premiums by people outside New Orleans) they had better drop the politics and all that and do this thing right the first time. The most logical thing would be to keep the historic and business districts in place behind much higher levees and have limited residential space inside. The rest of the people would be moved to higher ground and also behind levees and have good public transportation connecting to the downtown. That probably won't happen though. State politics in the past also played up to this. The levees around New Orleans were only meant to protect against a category 3 hurricane. From the 1990's on, the Federal government approved money to improve the levees, but state politicians redirected the money to other projects. It hasn't been a lack of money either. During his terms, Bush approved $1.9 billion to Louisiana for engineering projects, the most for any state. California was next with $1.4 billion even though it has 7 times more people. Again, most of this money was redirected by state politicians for projects in their home districts. Had that money gone to the levees and wetlands reconstruction as it was intended, then perhaps things would have turned out better. I have alse read that people are saying the Superdome is cursed. Appearantly it was built on top of an old graveyard. Story is that the graveyard wasn't exactly handle respectfully when it was dismantled and indeed some graves may still be burried under the foundations. Many reports of ghosts and other activity have been reported, enough so that several exorcisms have been performed, both the Christian sort and the Voodoo sort. No word yet on if the Superdome will be reopened or if it will be torn down. On a lighter note, my place in Alabama only got about half an inch of rain from Katrina. Winds were a little high, but no real damage. Two of the families that located to Beatrice left last week for Florida where they had family. There they will have places to live and their family was already looking for jobs for them. The remaining family will be there until at least Christmas. So far they have been moved from place to place, but they will be moved into a house where they can stay until they move on. Now we are just watching Ophelia. It looks like this one will miss me by a bit, though I expect some rain and wind from it. Looking at the latest foreceasts, it doesn't look like we will get much of anything. So long as we don't get a tornado spawned by the outer bands we should be alright. My other posts didn't seem to generate any comment, so that sort of discouraged me from putting up any posts as well. I'm still around though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Shaun, Bush did make mistakes with Katrina. Had he rushed right in and been photgraphed with people, he would have caught flak for that too. Still, he should have at least cut his vacation short and gone back to DC. Of course, he does stay in touch with what is going on during those vacations, all the presidents do. I agree that people need to find work. What we need to do is end the dole and go to a workfare program like FDR had during the Great Depression. FDR feared the effect the dole would have so he kept people working as much as possible. The free ride mentality has to be ended though because that more than anything is what is causing tension and division in the country. The statistics do show that getting your education, getting any job and getting married are the three keys for getting out of poverty and staying out. Unfortunately, the US welfare programs were set up just to tear down this pattern. For example, a woman could get money for each child she had and other benefits, but if she got married, the lost all of those benefits. That's just one of the terrible secrets of the US welfare system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Shaun, Bush did make mistakes with Katrina. Had he rushed right in and been photgraphed with people, he would have caught flak for that too. Still, he should have at least cut his vacation short and gone back to DC. Of course, he does stay in touch with what is going on during those vacations, all the presidents do. I agree that people need to find work. What we need to do is end the dole and go to a workfare program like FDR had during the Great Depression. FDR feared the effect the dole would have so he kept people working as much as possible. The free ride mentality has to be ended though because that more than anything is what is causing tension and division in the country. The statistics do show that getting your education, getting any job and getting married are the three keys for getting out of poverty and staying out. Unfortunately, the US welfare programs were set up just to tear down this pattern. For example, a woman could get money for each child she had and other benefits, but if she got married, the lost all of those benefits. That's just one of the terrible secrets of the US welfare system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Shaun, Bush did make mistakes with Katrina. Had he rushed right in and been photgraphed with people, he would have caught flak for that too. Still, he should have at least cut his vacation short and gone back to DC. Of course, he does stay in touch with what is going on during those vacations, all the presidents do. I agree that people need to find work. What we need to do is end the dole and go to a workfare program like FDR had during the Great Depression. FDR feared the effect the dole would have so he kept people working as much as possible. The free ride mentality has to be ended though because that more than anything is what is causing tension and division in the country. The statistics do show that getting your education, getting any job and getting married are the three keys for getting out of poverty and staying out. Unfortunately, the US welfare programs were set up just to tear down this pattern. For example, a woman could get money for each child she had and other benefits, but if she got married, the lost all of those benefits. That's just one of the terrible secrets of the US welfare system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 Well I read your posts and always find them fascinating - cannot always reply due to time constraints - I think others find your posts good too, but I cannot really answer for them. I like reading your thoughts etc - they are thought provoking :-) > Tom, > > I'm still hear and reading posts. Much of my attention lately has been on > the Katrina aftermath. What has my interest is how there were plans and all > that, but they weren't followed. Also, the politics that is brewing up would be > amusing if it weren't so serious. Its just amazing how this tradegy is being > twisted and abused by politicians looking to score points for themselves. > > I haven't been posting about what I have been learning because of how much > contention my other posts created. I will say one thing though. The rebuilding > cost is expected to reach $100 billion or more. For that kind of money, > almost all coming from taxpayers outside of New Orleans and from insurance > companies (which are also paid for by premiums by people outside New Orleans) they > had better drop the politics and all that and do this thing right the first > time. The most logical thing would be to keep the historic and business > districts in place behind much higher levees and have limited residential space > inside. The rest of the people would be moved to higher ground and also behind > levees and have good public transportation connecting to the downtown. That > probably won't happen though. > > State politics in the past also played up to this. The levees around New > Orleans were only meant to protect against a category 3 hurricane. From the > 1990's on, the Federal government approved money to improve the levees, but state > politicians redirected the money to other projects. It hasn't been a lack of > money either. During his terms, Bush approved $1.9 billion to Louisiana for > engineering projects, the most for any state. California was next with $1.4 > billion even though it has 7 times more people. Again, most of this money was > redirected by state politicians for projects in their home districts. Had that > money gone to the levees and wetlands reconstruction as it was intended, > then perhaps things would have turned out better. > > I have alse read that people are saying the Superdome is cursed. Appearantly > it was built on top of an old graveyard. Story is that the graveyard wasn't > exactly handle respectfully when it was dismantled and indeed some graves may > still be burried under the foundations. Many reports of ghosts and other > activity have been reported, enough so that several exorcisms have been > performed, both the Christian sort and the Voodoo sort. No word yet on if the > Superdome will be reopened or if it will be torn down. > > On a lighter note, my place in Alabama only got about half an inch of rain > from Katrina. Winds were a little high, but no real damage. Two of the families > that located to Beatrice left last week for Florida where they had family. > There they will have places to live and their family was already looking for > jobs for them. The remaining family will be there until at least Christmas. > So far they have been moved from place to place, but they will be moved into a > house where they can stay until they move on. > > Now we are just watching Ophelia. It looks like this one will miss me by a > bit, though I expect some rain and wind from it. Looking at the latest > foreceasts, it doesn't look like we will get much of anything. So long as we don't > get a tornado spawned by the outer bands we should be alright. > > My other posts didn't seem to generate any comment, so that sort of > discouraged me from putting up any posts as well. > > I'm still around though. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Shaun, There are some people that can't work, but they are a small number of the people on welfare. There should be a system like that to take care of those people. For the rest, they should do some kind of work. I read a story just in the last week or two about a place that was going down this road. They took steps to change things and within a generation things had been turned completely around. I can't remember where this program was done, however. I could look for it though. It can be done and it is more humane really to do this since it gives people more value to their lives. It would also be good for society because it would reduce crime and reduce the cost of government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Bush lost the second biggest photo op in his life time. First was Sept 11 in which he did a good job. Second was Katrina. Which he botched up. He should have been with the rescuers right after it happened. One point of note though, and we will see how this pans out, there should be no excuse both man or woman who is poor, not to be able work and make good money for themselves with all the work to be done in New Orleans. Even able man or woman who is on social security now have no excuse for not working. I personally believe the government should cut all benefits to those who are able and do not work. There is no excuse at all. No more " I cant find a job". There will be ample work. That $100 billion should come out of social security for New Orleans. Might sound draconian, but I for one are sick of paying tax dollars to those who have no intention to work. No more excuses for lazyness or tardiness. If the poor of New Orleans dont get a job helping to rebuild. It shows them to be parasites and not worthy of SS. In the USA, you have a choice, work or remain poor. Simple as that. NO MORE EXCUSES. Shaun.greebohere <julie.stevenson16@...> wrote: Well I read your posts and always find them fascinating - cannot always reply due to time constraints - I think others find your posts good too, but I cannot really answer for them.I like reading your thoughts etc - they are thought provoking :-)> Tom, > > I'm still hear and reading posts. Much of my attention lately has been on > the Katrina aftermath. What has my interest is how there were plans and all > that, but they weren't followed. Also, the politics that is brewing up would be > amusing if it weren't so serious. Its just amazing how this tradegy is being > twisted and abused by politicians looking to score points for themselves. > > I haven't been posting about what I have been learning because of how much > contention my other posts created. I will say one thing though. The rebuilding > cost is expected to reach $100 billion or more. For that kind of money, > almost all coming from taxpayers outside of New Orleans and from insurance > companies (which are also paid for by premiums by people outside New Orleans) they > had better drop the politics and all that and do this thing right the first > time. The most logical thing would be to keep the historic and business > districts in place behind much higher levees and have limited residential space > inside. The rest of the people would be moved to higher ground and also behind > levees and have good public transportation connecting to the downtown. That > probably won't happen though. > > State politics in the past also played up to this. The levees around New > Orleans were only meant to protect against a category 3 hurricane. From the > 1990's on, the Federal government approved money to improve the levees, but state > politicians redirected the money to other projects. It hasn't been a lack of > money either. During his terms, Bush approved $1.9 billion to Louisiana for > engineering projects, the most for any state. California was next with $1.4 > billion even though it has 7 times more people. Again, most of this money was > redirected by state politicians for projects in their home districts. Had that > money gone to the levees and wetlands reconstruction as it was intended, > then perhaps things would have turned out better. > > I have alse read that people are saying the Superdome is cursed. Appearantly > it was built on top of an old graveyard. Story is that the graveyard wasn't > exactly handle respectfully when it was dismantled and indeed some graves may > still be burried under the foundations. Many reports of ghosts and other > activity have been reported, enough so that several exorcisms have been > performed, both the Christian sort and the Voodoo sort. No word yet on if the > Superdome will be reopened or if it will be torn down. > > On a lighter note, my place in Alabama only got about half an inch of rain > from Katrina. Winds were a little high, but no real damage. Two of the families > that located to Beatrice left last week for Florida where they had family. > There they will have places to live and their family was already looking for > jobs for them. The remaining family will be there until at least Christmas. > So far they have been moved from place to place, but they will be moved into a > house where they can stay until they move on. > > Now we are just watching Ophelia. It looks like this one will miss me by a > bit, though I expect some rain and wind from it. Looking at the latest > foreceasts, it doesn't look like we will get much of anything. So long as we don't > get a tornado spawned by the outer bands we should be alright. > > My other posts didn't seem to generate any comment, so that sort of > discouraged me from putting up any posts as well. > > I'm still around though. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Bush lost the second biggest photo op in his life time. First was Sept 11 in which he did a good job. Second was Katrina. Which he botched up. He should have been with the rescuers right after it happened. One point of note though, and we will see how this pans out, there should be no excuse both man or woman who is poor, not to be able work and make good money for themselves with all the work to be done in New Orleans. Even able man or woman who is on social security now have no excuse for not working. I personally believe the government should cut all benefits to those who are able and do not work. There is no excuse at all. No more " I cant find a job". There will be ample work. That $100 billion should come out of social security for New Orleans. Might sound draconian, but I for one are sick of paying tax dollars to those who have no intention to work. No more excuses for lazyness or tardiness. If the poor of New Orleans dont get a job helping to rebuild. It shows them to be parasites and not worthy of SS. In the USA, you have a choice, work or remain poor. Simple as that. NO MORE EXCUSES. Shaun.greebohere <julie.stevenson16@...> wrote: Well I read your posts and always find them fascinating - cannot always reply due to time constraints - I think others find your posts good too, but I cannot really answer for them.I like reading your thoughts etc - they are thought provoking :-)> Tom, > > I'm still hear and reading posts. Much of my attention lately has been on > the Katrina aftermath. What has my interest is how there were plans and all > that, but they weren't followed. Also, the politics that is brewing up would be > amusing if it weren't so serious. Its just amazing how this tradegy is being > twisted and abused by politicians looking to score points for themselves. > > I haven't been posting about what I have been learning because of how much > contention my other posts created. I will say one thing though. The rebuilding > cost is expected to reach $100 billion or more. For that kind of money, > almost all coming from taxpayers outside of New Orleans and from insurance > companies (which are also paid for by premiums by people outside New Orleans) they > had better drop the politics and all that and do this thing right the first > time. The most logical thing would be to keep the historic and business > districts in place behind much higher levees and have limited residential space > inside. The rest of the people would be moved to higher ground and also behind > levees and have good public transportation connecting to the downtown. That > probably won't happen though. > > State politics in the past also played up to this. The levees around New > Orleans were only meant to protect against a category 3 hurricane. From the > 1990's on, the Federal government approved money to improve the levees, but state > politicians redirected the money to other projects. It hasn't been a lack of > money either. During his terms, Bush approved $1.9 billion to Louisiana for > engineering projects, the most for any state. California was next with $1.4 > billion even though it has 7 times more people. Again, most of this money was > redirected by state politicians for projects in their home districts. Had that > money gone to the levees and wetlands reconstruction as it was intended, > then perhaps things would have turned out better. > > I have alse read that people are saying the Superdome is cursed. Appearantly > it was built on top of an old graveyard. Story is that the graveyard wasn't > exactly handle respectfully when it was dismantled and indeed some graves may > still be burried under the foundations. Many reports of ghosts and other > activity have been reported, enough so that several exorcisms have been > performed, both the Christian sort and the Voodoo sort. No word yet on if the > Superdome will be reopened or if it will be torn down. > > On a lighter note, my place in Alabama only got about half an inch of rain > from Katrina. Winds were a little high, but no real damage. Two of the families > that located to Beatrice left last week for Florida where they had family. > There they will have places to live and their family was already looking for > jobs for them. The remaining family will be there until at least Christmas. > So far they have been moved from place to place, but they will be moved into a > house where they can stay until they move on. > > Now we are just watching Ophelia. It looks like this one will miss me by a > bit, though I expect some rain and wind from it. Looking at the latest > foreceasts, it doesn't look like we will get much of anything. So long as we don't > get a tornado spawned by the outer bands we should be alright. > > My other posts didn't seem to generate any comment, so that sort of > discouraged me from putting up any posts as well. > > I'm still around though. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Bush lost the second biggest photo op in his life time. First was Sept 11 in which he did a good job. Second was Katrina. Which he botched up. He should have been with the rescuers right after it happened. One point of note though, and we will see how this pans out, there should be no excuse both man or woman who is poor, not to be able work and make good money for themselves with all the work to be done in New Orleans. Even able man or woman who is on social security now have no excuse for not working. I personally believe the government should cut all benefits to those who are able and do not work. There is no excuse at all. No more " I cant find a job". There will be ample work. That $100 billion should come out of social security for New Orleans. Might sound draconian, but I for one are sick of paying tax dollars to those who have no intention to work. No more excuses for lazyness or tardiness. If the poor of New Orleans dont get a job helping to rebuild. It shows them to be parasites and not worthy of SS. In the USA, you have a choice, work or remain poor. Simple as that. NO MORE EXCUSES. Shaun.greebohere <julie.stevenson16@...> wrote: Well I read your posts and always find them fascinating - cannot always reply due to time constraints - I think others find your posts good too, but I cannot really answer for them.I like reading your thoughts etc - they are thought provoking :-)> Tom, > > I'm still hear and reading posts. Much of my attention lately has been on > the Katrina aftermath. What has my interest is how there were plans and all > that, but they weren't followed. Also, the politics that is brewing up would be > amusing if it weren't so serious. Its just amazing how this tradegy is being > twisted and abused by politicians looking to score points for themselves. > > I haven't been posting about what I have been learning because of how much > contention my other posts created. I will say one thing though. The rebuilding > cost is expected to reach $100 billion or more. For that kind of money, > almost all coming from taxpayers outside of New Orleans and from insurance > companies (which are also paid for by premiums by people outside New Orleans) they > had better drop the politics and all that and do this thing right the first > time. The most logical thing would be to keep the historic and business > districts in place behind much higher levees and have limited residential space > inside. The rest of the people would be moved to higher ground and also behind > levees and have good public transportation connecting to the downtown. That > probably won't happen though. > > State politics in the past also played up to this. The levees around New > Orleans were only meant to protect against a category 3 hurricane. From the > 1990's on, the Federal government approved money to improve the levees, but state > politicians redirected the money to other projects. It hasn't been a lack of > money either. During his terms, Bush approved $1.9 billion to Louisiana for > engineering projects, the most for any state. California was next with $1.4 > billion even though it has 7 times more people. Again, most of this money was > redirected by state politicians for projects in their home districts. Had that > money gone to the levees and wetlands reconstruction as it was intended, > then perhaps things would have turned out better. > > I have alse read that people are saying the Superdome is cursed. Appearantly > it was built on top of an old graveyard. Story is that the graveyard wasn't > exactly handle respectfully when it was dismantled and indeed some graves may > still be burried under the foundations. Many reports of ghosts and other > activity have been reported, enough so that several exorcisms have been > performed, both the Christian sort and the Voodoo sort. No word yet on if the > Superdome will be reopened or if it will be torn down. > > On a lighter note, my place in Alabama only got about half an inch of rain > from Katrina. Winds were a little high, but no real damage. Two of the families > that located to Beatrice left last week for Florida where they had family. > There they will have places to live and their family was already looking for > jobs for them. The remaining family will be there until at least Christmas. > So far they have been moved from place to place, but they will be moved into a > house where they can stay until they move on. > > Now we are just watching Ophelia. It looks like this one will miss me by a > bit, though I expect some rain and wind from it. Looking at the latest > foreceasts, it doesn't look like we will get much of anything. So long as we don't > get a tornado spawned by the outer bands we should be alright. > > My other posts didn't seem to generate any comment, so that sort of > discouraged me from putting up any posts as well. > > I'm still around though. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 , Some people have designed their whole lives off welfare. It is not that they cannot work, it is that they do not want to work. After this horrible tragedy, there is no reason for anyone to be without a job. Time to put down the pipe and bottle and rally around your own community by working to get it back up again. NO EXCUSES. Welfare should be cut and as you say, have a program like FDR. I guarantee you that if people had to work to rehabilitate their own community, their own self respect and sense of community will skyrocket. These people need to no longer need to whinge about their poverty as there will be plenty of work for everyone. Shaun. VISIGOTH@... wrote: Shaun, Bush did make mistakes with Katrina. Had he rushed right in and been photgraphed with people, he would have caught flak for that too. Still, he should have at least cut his vacation short and gone back to DC. Of course, he does stay in touch with what is going on during those vacations, all the presidents do. I agree that people need to find work. What we need to do is end the dole and go to a workfare program like FDR had during the Great Depression. FDR feared the effect the dole would have so he kept people working as much as possible. The free ride mentality has to be ended though because that more than anything is what is causing tension and division in the country. The statistics do show that getting your education, getting any job and getting married are the three keys for getting out of poverty and staying out. Unfortunately, the US welfare programs were set up just to tear down this pattern. For example, a woman could get money for each child she had and other benefits, but if she got married, the lost all of those benefits. That's just one of the terrible secrets of the US welfare system. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 , Some people have designed their whole lives off welfare. It is not that they cannot work, it is that they do not want to work. After this horrible tragedy, there is no reason for anyone to be without a job. Time to put down the pipe and bottle and rally around your own community by working to get it back up again. NO EXCUSES. Welfare should be cut and as you say, have a program like FDR. I guarantee you that if people had to work to rehabilitate their own community, their own self respect and sense of community will skyrocket. These people need to no longer need to whinge about their poverty as there will be plenty of work for everyone. Shaun. VISIGOTH@... wrote: Shaun, Bush did make mistakes with Katrina. Had he rushed right in and been photgraphed with people, he would have caught flak for that too. Still, he should have at least cut his vacation short and gone back to DC. Of course, he does stay in touch with what is going on during those vacations, all the presidents do. I agree that people need to find work. What we need to do is end the dole and go to a workfare program like FDR had during the Great Depression. FDR feared the effect the dole would have so he kept people working as much as possible. The free ride mentality has to be ended though because that more than anything is what is causing tension and division in the country. The statistics do show that getting your education, getting any job and getting married are the three keys for getting out of poverty and staying out. Unfortunately, the US welfare programs were set up just to tear down this pattern. For example, a woman could get money for each child she had and other benefits, but if she got married, the lost all of those benefits. That's just one of the terrible secrets of the US welfare system. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 , Some people have designed their whole lives off welfare. It is not that they cannot work, it is that they do not want to work. After this horrible tragedy, there is no reason for anyone to be without a job. Time to put down the pipe and bottle and rally around your own community by working to get it back up again. NO EXCUSES. Welfare should be cut and as you say, have a program like FDR. I guarantee you that if people had to work to rehabilitate their own community, their own self respect and sense of community will skyrocket. These people need to no longer need to whinge about their poverty as there will be plenty of work for everyone. Shaun. VISIGOTH@... wrote: Shaun, Bush did make mistakes with Katrina. Had he rushed right in and been photgraphed with people, he would have caught flak for that too. Still, he should have at least cut his vacation short and gone back to DC. Of course, he does stay in touch with what is going on during those vacations, all the presidents do. I agree that people need to find work. What we need to do is end the dole and go to a workfare program like FDR had during the Great Depression. FDR feared the effect the dole would have so he kept people working as much as possible. The free ride mentality has to be ended though because that more than anything is what is causing tension and division in the country. The statistics do show that getting your education, getting any job and getting married are the three keys for getting out of poverty and staying out. Unfortunately, the US welfare programs were set up just to tear down this pattern. For example, a woman could get money for each child she had and other benefits, but if she got married, the lost all of those benefits. That's just one of the terrible secrets of the US welfare system. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 No offence intended, but I'm getting awfully tired if this constant barrage of right-wing propaganda. If the two of you are displeased about the conditions in your country, why don't you join some party and work for changes there? Ranting about it here isn't going to change a thing. Inger Re: Re: ? Shaun, Bush did make mistakes with Katrina. Had he rushed right in and been photgraphed with people, he would have caught flak for that too. Still, he should have at least cut his vacation short and gone back to DC. Of course, he does stay in touch with what is going on during those vacations, all the presidents do. I agree that people need to find work. What we need to do is end the dole and go to a workfare program like FDR had during the Great Depression. FDR feared the effect the dole would have so he kept people working as much as possible. The free ride mentality has to be ended though because that more than anything is what is causing tension and division in the country. The statistics do show that getting your education, getting any job and getting married are the three keys for getting out of poverty and staying out. Unfortunately, the US welfare programs were set up just to tear down this pattern. For example, a woman could get money for each child she had and other benefits, but if she got married, the lost all of those benefits. That's just one of the terrible secrets of the US welfare system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 No offence intended, but as opposed to left wing gibberish. Remember Inger, you dont have to read others opinions. Just skip them, since when was anothers opinion propaganda? Shaun.Inger Lorelei <inglori@...> wrote: No offence intended, but I'm getting awfully tired if this constant barrage of right-wing propaganda. If the two of you are displeased about the conditions in your country, why don't you join some party and work for changes there? Ranting about it here isn't going to change a thing. Inger Re: Re: ? Shaun, Bush did make mistakes with Katrina. Had he rushed right in and been photgraphed with people, he would have caught flak for that too. Still, he should have at least cut his vacation short and gone back to DC. Of course, he does stay in touch with what is going on during those vacations, all the presidents do. I agree that people need to find work. What we need to do is end the dole and go to a workfare program like FDR had during the Great Depression. FDR feared the effect the dole would have so he kept people working as much as possible. The free ride mentality has to be ended though because that more than anything is what is causing tension and division in the country. The statistics do show that getting your education, getting any job and getting married are the three keys for getting out of poverty and staying out. Unfortunately, the US welfare programs were set up just to tear down this pattern. For example, a woman could get money for each child she had and other benefits, but if she got married, the lost all of those benefits. That's just one of the terrible secrets of the US welfare system. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Tom and Inger, I can see how this would be irritating to read because it irritates me when I post it. I think what really gets me about all this is the stupidity and corruption, niether of which are things I can tolerate. Simply put, the condition of the US welfare state and public education didn't happen by accident but were designed by crooked politicians and bureacrats for completely self-serving ends. As a result, millions have suffered and have been minimized as human beings. It has been a waste of resources both material and human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Inger, I can understand how you wouldn't want to hear this sort of thing, but when you've been living with these sorts of conditions for years, it kind of grates on people and sometimes they wish to talk about it. The politicians we have in our country seldom represent the wishes of most people and thus progress anywhere is slow to take place. Let them talk. Just ignore their posts if you don't like them. Tom No offence intended, but I'm getting awfully tired if this constant barrage of right-wing propaganda. If the two of you are displeased about the conditions in your country, why don't you join some party and work for changes there? Ranting about it here isn't going to change a thing. Inger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 PMS time again. ;-) I'll take your advice, Shaun and Tom, and just skip these posts. Inger Re: ? Inger, I can understand how you wouldn't want to hear this sort of thing, but when you've been living with these sorts of conditions for years, it kind of grates on people and sometimes they wish to talk about it. The politicians we have in our country seldom represent the wishes of most people and thus progress anywhere is slow to take place. Let them talk. Just ignore their posts if you don't like them. Tom No offence intended, but I'm getting awfully tired if this constant barrage of right-wing propaganda. If the two of you are displeased about the conditions in your country, why don't you join some party and work for changes there? Ranting about it here isn't going to change a thing. Inger FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 I'll be having a 'mucus' give away this weekend..any takers? Ewwwwwwwwwww YUCK ? your a respitory therapist? What can I do to make my chest stop hurting..yes I'm smoking vewy vewy little..and have a call into my doc..but owieeee does my chest hurt.I'll be having a 'mucus' give away this weekend..any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Hi Bayla, Your chest pain is likely from all the coughing you are doing.Ask your doc for something for a cough,although if you are coughing up junk,that's a good thing.If there is any color to it,that may mean an infection and you may need antibiotics if your not already on them. Give it your best to stop smoking,it will only prolong the bronchitis.We have little hairlike projections in our airways that sweep up debris,so it doesn't end up in the airway and lungs.One cigg paralyzes them for about 20 minutes. Drink lots of water to keep the stuff thin and eat well or take a multivitamin,no iron. Bronchitis is a pain,but the best thing to do is get it cleared up.Get in contact with your doc,maybe they can give you something,I know you must be miserable,I have seen the pain it causes. I will do some coughing for you. ? your a respitory therapist? What can I do to make my chest stop hurting..yes I'm smoking vewy vewy little..and have a call into my doc..but owieeee does my chest hurt.I'll be having a 'mucus' give away this weekend..any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 > > Everyone that's online now that wants food recipes AND bath and body recipes > reply to this and say sure > Sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hi Loriann, I was wondering that myself and sent an email yesterday with no reply so far. I wonder if she's in the hospital. I hope she's doing OK. Andy > > Has anyone heard anything in the last few days from ? I've > been wondering if there was any new news about the problems she was > having with her pump? > > loriann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Evan also had the slow gastric emptying --we were able to draw up from the NG tube his total feed from 3 hours before. It was virtually untouched, undigested, the same. They tried Cisapride but it didn't make any difference and this drug was taken off the market later due to causing heart problems in little ones. They never did know why Evan had this slow emptying --but that was probably one reason he would throw up -I mean a stomach can't hold one feed on top of another very long --but maybe it was all tied in to the heart problem since it got better when that got better?? I dunno. Also, I learned that the NG tube can cause reflux and when we got rid of it later after heart surgery, no more reflux and its accompanying pain. Priscilla K >>>>> " Müller " mueller-= Thanks, Carol. Well, didn't get a tube placed as a solution, rather to keep him alive. If he hadn't had one for the last 2 weeks he would probably have starved to death, for he isn't drinking and eating at all anymore. I think the situation is way past fiddling around with dietary measures. The enteral food he is getting now is called " Frebini " , a liquid containing all kinds of SCD incompatible things like oat fiber, maltodextrine, lactose etc., but still he hasn't been showing any aversion (yet). I'll talk to the doctors about having him tested for food intolerances/allergies, as he reacts badly to yoghurt, also the SCD type, I'm afraid. We believe that the SCD helped him for some time because it is a very light diet, but it didn't help his underlying problem, which Saskia and I think might be caused by delayed gastric emptying (an example: we fed him a yoghurt on hospital-day-two because the docs wanted to record how he reacts to normal food - they don't believe in SCD - and astonishingly he gobbled it up without hesitating - he really enjoyed it - but then he was sick with it from 8am to 6pm, so that means it got stuck in his tummy without moving further down). So next to food allergies the next thing we'll try to find out if the specialists are willing to try erythromycin, a safe motility drug. I really, really hope that this will turn out to be the solution, otherwise he's in for surgery... Trying to keep our peckers up, , with Saskia, Nora-Jane & /DS/GERD/ASDII>>>>>>>> Priscilla Kendrick, married 29 years to Darrel and parents of 9 kids including Evan, 10, born with Down Syndrome and Spina Bifida " My strength is made perfect in weakness. " " My grace is sufficient. " II Corinthians 12:9 KJV __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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