Re: someone recommended a book on pasture staggering...

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much, Wanita. My boss is interested in the book, hopefully

he'll still be able to find it at addall or somewhere else.

And thank you Belinda, if it was you who originally posted the book.

Chris

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At 02:39 PM 10/29/02 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>Someone had recommended a book earlier about different types of pasture and

>how to stagger pasture to last all year, and what kind to use in certain

>regions, etc.

>

>I can't find the post in the archives.  If that person is still on the list,

>I would appreciate it very much if you could repost the title and author of

>that book.

>

>Thanks,

>Chris

Hi

This is the discussion on that book. Think it was Belinda here.

At 03:57 PM 10/5/02 +0000, you wrote:

>>I read a book written in Britain in the 1950s (I think)

>called " Fertility Pastures and Cover Crops: Based on Nature's own

>Balanced Organic Pasture Feeds " (by Newman ). I believe it is

>out of print now, although I would be thrilled if I was found to be

>wrong. It was about a dairy farmer who would use combinations of

>certain plants and dairy cows to turn barren ground into very fertile

>soil. He was committed to not feeding the cows anything but grass (he

>found it to be cheaper in the long run the way he did things). He

>developed a complex system of piling up certain grasses/legumes and

>packing it down in certain ways and letting his cows eat it. I don't

>think he ever gave his cows anything but this fermented-pasture and

>fresh kale in the winter. His cows loved it and he never had to serve

>hay up to his cows (I'm pretty sure) because it was a self-serve

>operation. He had healthy soil, healthy milk, healthy cows, and less

>actual labor and cost than most people. There are black and white

>pictures of his cows, his fermented-pasture operation, and his farms

>(he actually healed the soil and turned it into a producing dairy

>farm in several different locations I believe, but I'm not sure). I

>have found many good books on organic farming before, but this one is

>the coolest. It has pasture recipes (usually with more than five

>different plant seed combinations) for a variety of climates and

>seasons. The recipes we would use in my area of Oklahoma would be the

>Drought and Fall recipes (and maybe the Spring recipe). Anybody who

>has an animal or plans to get an animal that eats grass should read

>this book. You might have to do some real digging find this book, but

>I think you will find the digging to be worth it. I learned so much

>from this book.

Found 4 copies at addall.com They're all imported through U.S. booksellers.

Tried title in books and used books. Got nothing. Put author in books,

nothing.

Author in used books brought up all s. Newman quite a ways down page

with

title listed as Fertility Farming. Click match this title to get sources of 4

copies.

Now you got me intrigued with another book when I need to be selling the

ones I

don't want anymore or buying food...LOL

Wanita

P.S. Addall.com is the best place to find a book and to price compare that I

know of.

Wanita

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it

expects what never was and never will be.

- Jefferson

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you might want to have your boss check out this agricultural library in

Belchertown that's part of the New England Farm Institute

<http://www.smallfarm.org/library/library.html>http://www.smallfarm.org/lib

rary/library.html Haven't got there yet myself. Who knows they could have

these

fermenting books for loans. Others here, there is a link to other agricultural

libraries from this site. Haven't checked Acres USA book catalog for

availability.

Wanita

>At 02:39 PM 10/29/02 -0500, you wrote:

>>Hi,

>>

>>Someone had recommended a book earlier about different types of pasture and

>>how to stagger pasture to last all year, and what kind to use in certain

>>regions, etc.

>>

>>I can't find the post in the archives.  If that person is still on the

list,

>>I would appreciate it very much if you could repost the title and author of

>>that book.

>>

>>Thanks,

>>Chris

>

>Hi

>

>This is the discussion on that book. Think it was Belinda here.

>

>At 03:57 PM 10/5/02 +0000, you wrote:

>>>I read a book written in Britain in the 1950s (I think)

>>called " Fertility Pastures and Cover Crops: Based on Nature's own

>>Balanced Organic Pasture Feeds " (by Newman ). I believe it is

>>out of print now, although I would be thrilled if I was found to be

>>wrong. It was about a dairy farmer who would use combinations of

>>certain plants and dairy cows to turn barren ground into very fertile

>>soil. He was committed to not feeding the cows anything but grass (he

>>found it to be cheaper in the long run the way he did things). He

>>developed a complex system of piling up certain grasses/legumes and

>>packing it down in certain ways and letting his cows eat it. I don't

>>think he ever gave his cows anything but this fermented-pasture and

>>fresh kale in the winter. His cows loved it and he never had to serve

>>hay up to his cows (I'm pretty sure) because it was a self-serve

>>operation. He had healthy soil, healthy milk, healthy cows, and less

>>actual labor and cost than most people. There are black and white

>>pictures of his cows, his fermented-pasture operation, and his farms

>>(he actually healed the soil and turned it into a producing dairy

>>farm in several different locations I believe, but I'm not sure). I

>>have found many good books on organic farming before, but this one is

>>the coolest. It has pasture recipes (usually with more than five

>>different plant seed combinations) for a variety of climates and

>>seasons. The recipes we would use in my area of Oklahoma would be the

>>Drought and Fall recipes (and maybe the Spring recipe). Anybody who

>>has an animal or plans to get an animal that eats grass should read

>>this book. You might have to do some real digging find this book, but

>>I think you will find the digging to be worth it. I learned so much

>>from this book.

>

>

>Found 4 copies at addall.com They're all imported through U.S. booksellers.

>Tried title in books and used books. Got nothing. Put author in books,

>nothing.

>Author in used books brought up all s. Newman quite a ways down page

>with

>title listed as Fertility Farming. Click match this title to get sources

of 4

>copies.

>Now you got me intrigued with another book when I need to be selling the

>ones I

>don't want anymore or buying food...LOL

>Wanita

>P.S. Addall.com is the best place to find a book and to price compare that I

>know of.

>

>

>Wanita

>If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it

>expects what never was and never will be.

>- Jefferson

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

Sorry it took me so long to reply to your question (I don't get onto

the forum often). " Fertility Pastures and Cover Crops: Based on

Nature's own Balanced Organic Pasture Feeds " (by Newman ). It

isn't really about staggering pasture to make it last all year. It

deals more with successful soil healing and profitable dairy

operations. That would include feeding cows in winter with fermented

pasture, grass-herb-legume combos for soil healing in different

regions and seasons, and other things you can plant and do to heal

your soil quickly and effectively. If you do read it, then please

tell me what you think of it. I want to see how my opinion matches up

to yours. This book that I call a " great find " might be nothing new

to you. If that's so, then please tell me some other books so that I

don't walk around telling people how amazing this book is.

Brad

> Hi,

>

> Someone had recommended a book earlier about different types of

pasture and

> how to stagger pasture to last all year, and what kind to use in

certain

> regions, etc.

>

> I can't find the post in the archives. If that person is still on

the list,

> I would appreciate it very much if you could repost the title and

author of

> that book.

>

> Thanks,

Chris

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/1/02 2:15:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, belscb@...

writes:

> If you do read it, then please

> tell me what you think of it. I want to see how my opinion matches up

> to yours. This book that I call a " great find " might be nothing new

> to you. If that's so, then please tell me some other books so that I

> don't walk around telling people how amazing this book is.

Lol... sorry Brad, but I don't know _anything_ about pasturing cattle, and my

boss doesn't really either (which is why he wants to read about it) so we're

probably not the best subjects to test it on. I'm asking for my boss, and I

probably won't get a chance to read it, since I have a limited time during

winter break to read books not related to school, but if I do, I will let you

know what I think, for what it's worth.

Chris

[Guest guest]

>

> Lol... sorry Brad, but I don't know _anything_ about pasturing

cattle, and my

> boss doesn't really either (which is why he wants to read about

it)

the Stockman Grass Farmer sells some books about

pasturing livestock, different methods of rotation and

management, etc.

http://www.stockmangrassfarmer.com/bookshelf.html . I think in

the magazine itself they have more books listed than what is

shown on that web page. You can get a free sample issue, see

the link on their home page.

Aubin