Re: milkquestions/ bacterial paranoia

[Guest guest]

I just want to add to this discussion that I think it is so hilarious about

my former bacterial paranoia, and that Heleen's paranoia is totally normal,

and I was exactly the same way before I started drinking raw milk.

I remember when I first started buying it I was weary about it and was

super-paranoid that it not be left out for any lenth of time, so I would make

sure to have a cooler with lots of ice paks to keep my milk cold and

everything. Fast forward to and I drink it when it's curlded, I put it on my

counter for four days, etc.

Same thing with meat. I used to be very paranoid about always washing my

hands after i handled raw meat or eggs, and always washign the counter

immediately, etc. Not that I think these hygenic things are bad, but I woudl

before washing my hands numerous times right in the middle of making a meal

because of this.

Now I _eat_ the raw meat! After eating raw meat and eggs, any paranoia or

anal-retentiveness about bacteria from these products strikes me as laughably

ridiculous. If I'm eating a raw steak with salad, the bacteria from the raw

steak is not going to kill me any faster if it slips onto a carrot it my

salad than if it's on the steak itself!

In fact, I've been able to drastically reduce my intake of CO over the last

couple weeks without getting sick, which for months I couldn't do before, and

the only change I've made I think is eating a quarter pound of raw steak each

week, with small amounts of raw lacto-fermented fish throughout the week. So

my immune system and health seems to be doing better now.

It is amazing to see how off the mark, or just directly contradictory nearly

all conventional wisdom is.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Another thing to remember is that pasturized milk was not universally

available in this country until 1943. What were people doing? You hear

about varous epidemics but not food poisoning epidemics in the earlier part

of this century. Of course farming practices are very different now but if

raw milk is so inherently dangerous it would have probably been a

widespread problem then.

Irene

At 05:41 AM 11/2/02, you wrote:

>I just want to add to this discussion that I think it is so hilarious about

>my former bacterial paranoia, and that Heleen's paranoia is totally normal,

>and I was exactly the same way before I started drinking raw milk.

>

>I remember when I first started buying it I was weary about it and was

>super-paranoid that it not be left out for any lenth of time, so I would make

>sure to have a cooler with lots of ice paks to keep my milk cold and

>everything. Fast forward to and I drink it when it's curlded, I put it on my

>counter for four days, etc.

>

>Same thing with meat. I used to be very paranoid about always washing my

>hands after i handled raw meat or eggs, and always washign the counter

>immediately, etc. Not that I think these hygenic things are bad, but I woudl

>before washing my hands numerous times right in the middle of making a meal

>because of this.

>

>Now I _eat_ the raw meat! After eating raw meat and eggs, any paranoia or

>anal-retentiveness about bacteria from these products strikes me as laughably

>ridiculous. If I'm eating a raw steak with salad, the bacteria from the raw

>steak is not going to kill me any faster if it slips onto a carrot it my

>salad than if it's on the steak itself!

>

>In fact, I've been able to drastically reduce my intake of CO over the last

>couple weeks without getting sick, which for months I couldn't do before, and

>the only change I've made I think is eating a quarter pound of raw steak each

>week, with small amounts of raw lacto-fermented fish throughout the week. So

>my immune system and health seems to be doing better now.

>

>It is amazing to see how off the mark, or just directly contradictory nearly

>all conventional wisdom is.

>

>Chris

>

>____

>

> " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

>heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

>animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

>them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

>compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

>bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

>Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

>truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

>

>--Saint Isaac the Syrian

>

>