cures

April 7, 2000

Thanks ,

Good report.

Since having been found with prostate cancer and wish to know more about this

subject, I joined many help groups and then read many letters, reports,

essays, and you name it.

Got very confused.

So, bought some books on microbiology, cancer cures, how to live forever and

so on, Jesus, I am overwhelmed.

But now at least I can understand what is going on, and you are so right.

Bucks first, information last.

Cancer to me today is just like owning anything mechanical, some that moves

in some form or another, and...if not cared for in a proper way, it will

malfunction.

And so does the body...

Even if we do everything perfect, we still have to deal with the environment

and heredity.

To remove a cancer cell and replace it is simple once one knows how cells

function.

My car can no longer accelerate...found the filter is clogged...it can't fix

itself, it needs some help...and the body...it too has this same kind of

problem.

Cancer is a malfunction. A very interesting one.

There are numerous cell malfunctions, but not all result in cancer.

Vitamin C diffiency causes scurvy....and many others...

So, in order to help anyone from any disease, one needs to know just what is

happening, and how to change the event that is causing the malady.

And most important, to give this information to the people of the world for

free.

One of the cheapest medicines that can do so much to help people from their

daily aches and pains, and also heart and stroke problems, is the cheep

aspirin.

Wonderful, and it had its beginning from a son who wanted to help his father

free himself from pain of cancer...began by making a tea from the bark of the

white Elm tree...simple.

Thanks again,

.

April 7, 2000

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VGammill wrote:

Hello

,

What I feel re cancer is not what I encourage cancer patients to feel.

I don't have a lot of time or skills to deal with psychological states

in the patient. As long as I can get them to relax I can deal with

the rest. If they are uptight it can certainly thwart progress.

Glutathione does not disguise cancer cells. It does help protect them.

The research in adding additional glutathione is rather sketchy.

Research into its effect on cancer cell lines is worthless. As a

stand alone treatment few patients are willing to gamble. As to the

effects of using milk whey or cottage cheese there are different strategies.

Some people like to build up glutathione, others like to destroy it.

The jury is still out about which is the most rational strategy as most

patients try many additional medicines, nutrients, and other remedies.

I don't see either strategy as that impressive. I typically use any

of a dozen other things -- few if any you have heard of and most I am not

a liberty to discuss. I can say this: I never go in with a

set strategy and so unfortunately it is a useless question for someone

to ask, What do you do for such and such type of cancer? All I can

do is suggest some easily obtainable items that are generally helpful and

don't cost too much. It is totally unfair of me to tell someone on

SSI that they need this or that medicine but I need a new lyophilizer or

a refrigerated centrifuge.

I have a serious need to know the answers to some of the same questions

that you are asking. With so many people using whey and cottage cheese

I need to know if it will interfere with the other things that I do.

This why I contacted several people I know in the business who interface

with patients. It was my hope for candor in that I would be told

truthfully what their observations are. When does it seem to work

best? When does it fall on its face? They don't have to come

to any conclusions. Just give me lots and lots of information and

I will sort it out.

When people give me honest information, they are giving me something of

value and I find a way to repay them. When they give me a sales pitch

they have wasted my time.

With the clinics it is a little different. If I hear that someone

has something that produces results, I try to figure out what they are

doing. Most across-the-border cancer clinics have their secrets as

they are not protected by patents or by pharmceutical companies.

If I don't immediately figure it out, I go to them and offer to sign a

non-disclosure and help with the chemistry if they need help. I have

an excellent reputation for keeping secrets. I also have an reputation

of figuring out secrets and so that is the threat. If there is no

obligation I often go into competition and manufacture and sell things

dirt cheap. It was costing me $5 per gram to make pentamidine isothionate

when Lyphomed was selling it for $300 per gram to AIDS patients -- which

meant it was coming out of insurance pools and taxpayer dollars for the

unearned benefit of Lyphomed stockholders. In 1994 when cetyl myristoleate

was selling for $22 per gram, I set up a commercial synthesis and now sell

it for one thousandth of that. This combination of the carrot or

the stick yields good information.

I am not about to give away all my secrets for gathering information, but

a particularly rewarding strategy is to assume that the government and

big business is suppressing important information on cures for cancer and

other chronic diseases. What would those with power do to suppress?

Well, I backed into a few great strategies to find out and that can unlock

a lot of doors. -----

Original Message -----

From:

A Allan

cures for canceregroups

Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 6:48

PM

Subject: cures

,

Along with so many others, I have watched the discourse between your self

and Debbie & Joe. B, with interest. One of the troubles with

argument is that no one ever really wins and the energy taken to conduct

such is little more than a drain. Still it's always interesting to

watch the varying aspects of such argument and if one is lucky, then at

least some information can arise. I have a couple of questions from

your "chat" with Debbie.

Can you explain what cancers are subject to being driven by methionine?

Why? Is there a difference between these and other cancers regarding

their malignancy? How would you say glutathione disguises cancer

cells? Is it simply that cd4 & 8 cannot distinguish them and

if so why? (Perhaps I've been inattentive when you have explained

all this before & if so I'd be happy to go back through the digest,

just let me know).

You had a discussion with Joe Bentley the other day regarding differing

opinions between battling cancer and acceptance & I'd like to add my

opinion on the subject, but first a little background... My wife had 20

years in a marital relationship with a man who beat her every time she

offered an opinion or when he came under the influence of alcohol, as a

result she was unable to express any type of anger for fear of another

beating of her or her son & daughter, and so she developed liver cancer

(which I am sure you know is an area of unvented or stored anger) a number

of years after their divorce. In the mean time she and I had married

and after her diagnosis we "battled" her cancer, but it was only after

we had decided to stop the "battle" that she improved. She accepted

that she had the disease, she accepted that she could overcome it, she

accepted that the cancer presented her, myself and our children with lessons

that we may have otherwise not learned and she simply decided to ask it

to leave. She stopped the battle because, as she saw it, the cancer

was caused by years of battle and to continue such, merely continued the

very source of it's cause.

Of course, we both realise that many other situations contributed to Donna's

cancer such as diet etc. but there can be no doubt that her previous

marital battles contributed also. We changed her diet, changed the

nutrition regime and changed the "battle" - that didn't mean that we were

pleased she contracted the disease. It didn't mean that we became

- what were your words? Namby pamby? We simply changed the

atmosphere in which the cancer was first born.

Perhaps that is what Joe was aiming at?

Kind regards

Allan

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April 7, 2000

Hello ,

I collect medical books from the 18th and 19th centuries. My favorites

are the writings of the ian Botanic Physicians whose heyday was in

the middle of the last century. Their success rates far exceeded those of

conventional practicioners and of course they were eventually suppressed.

One of the most enjoyable aspects of reading their writings is their choice

of metaphors. Their understandings of the workings of the body tended to be

mechanical much like yours. Thank you for posting.

Re: cures

> Thanks ,

> Good report.

> Since having been found with prostate cancer and wish to know more about

this

> subject, I joined many help groups and then read many letters, reports,

> essays, and you name it.

> Got very confused.

> So, bought some books on microbiology, cancer cures, how to live forever

and

> so on, Jesus, I am overwhelmed.

> But now at least I can understand what is going on, and you are so right.

> Bucks first, information last.

> Cancer to me today is just like owning anything mechanical, some that

moves

> in some form or another, and...if not cared for in a proper way, it will

> malfunction.

> And so does the body...

> Even if we do everything perfect, we still have to deal with the

environment

> and heredity.

>

> To remove a cancer cell and replace it is simple once one knows how cells

> function.

> My car can no longer accelerate...found the filter is clogged...it can't

fix

> itself, it needs some help...and the body...it too has this same kind of

> problem.

>

> Cancer is a malfunction. A very interesting one.

>

> There are numerous cell malfunctions, but not all result in cancer.

> Vitamin C diffiency causes scurvy....and many others...

>

> So, in order to help anyone from any disease, one needs to know just what

is

> happening, and how to change the event that is causing the malady.

>

> And most important, to give this information to the people of the world

for

> free.

>

> One of the cheapest medicines that can do so much to help people from

their

> daily aches and pains, and also heart and stroke problems, is the cheep

> aspirin.

>

> Wonderful, and it had its beginning from a son who wanted to help his

father

> free himself from pain of cancer...began by making a tea from the bark of

the

> white Elm tree...simple.

>

> Thanks again,

> .

April 7, 2000

,

I trust that all is well, and that you are in the process of conquering

the cancer. I am also dealing with prostate cancer, and with God's

leadership, a very positive attitude, and a stringent battle plan, I am

quite well. What strategies are you currently employing in your war

against these uninvited guests?

Rich

April 9, 2000

"Glutathione does not disguise cancer cells. It does help protect them. The research in adding additional glutathione is rather sketchy. "

I get so confused at times with all the info going around. I purchased Immunocal (total of 3 boxes) and now after reading the posting from , I have second thoughts about taking it. I really don't want to take a risk if the Immunocal is going to protect my cancel cells! So, do I just write off the money I spent or take the product?

Judy Graham

cures

,

Along with so many others, I have watched the discourse between your self and Debbie & Joe. B, with interest. One of the troubles with argument is that no one ever really wins and the energy taken to conduct such is little more than a drain. Still it's always interesting to watch the varying aspects of such argument and if one is lucky, then at least some information can arise. I have a couple of questions from your "chat" with Debbie.

Can you explain what cancers are subject to being driven by methionine? Why? Is there a difference between these and other cancers regarding their malignancy? How would you say glutathione disguises cancer cells? Is it simply that cd4 & 8 cannot distinguish them and if so why? (Perhaps I've been inattentive when you have explained all this before & if so I'd be happy to go back through the digest, just let me know).

You had a discussion with Joe Bentley the other day regarding differing opinions between battling cancer and acceptance & I'd like to add my opinion on the subject, but first a little background... My wife had 20 years in a marital relationship with a man who beat her every time she offered an opinion or when he came under the influence of alcohol, as a result she was unable to express any type of anger for fear of another beating of her or her son & daughter, and so she developed liver cancer (which I am sure you know is an area of unvented or stored anger) a number of years after their divorce. In the mean time she and I had married and after her diagnosis we "battled" her cancer, but it was only after we had decided to stop the "battle" that she improved. She accepted that she had the disease, she accepted that she could overcome it, she accepted that the cancer presented her, myself and our children with lessons that we may have otherwise not learned and she simply decided to ask it to leave. She stopped the battle because, as she saw it, the cancer was caused by years of battle and to continue such, merely continued the very source of it's cause.

Of course, we both realise that many other situations contributed to Donna's cancer such as diet etc. but there can be no doubt that her previous marital battles contributed also. We changed her diet, changed the nutrition regime and changed the "battle" - that didn't mean that we were pleased she contracted the disease. It didn't mean that we became - what were your words? Namby pamby? We simply changed the atmosphere in which the cancer was first born.

Perhaps that is what Joe was aiming at?

Kind regards

Allan

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April 11, 2000

Hi,

I share the concerns. I've just bought 12 boxes of immunical for my husband and I am concern that if this is really good form him. After taking, even today, after about 5 boxes, he still feels the inflammation at his lungs.

Anybody care to advise

Regards

Peggie

cures

,

Along with so many others, I have watched the discourse between your self and Debbie & Joe. B, with interest. One of the troubles with argument is that no one ever really wins and the energy taken to conduct such is little more than a drain. Still it's always interesting to watch the varying aspects of such argument and if one is lucky, then at least some information can arise. I have a couple of questions from your "chat" with Debbie.

Can you explain what cancers are subject to being driven by methionine? Why? Is there a difference between these and other cancers regarding their malignancy? How would you say glutathione disguises cancer cells? Is it simply that cd4 & 8 cannot distinguish them and if so why? (Perhaps I've been inattentive when you have explained all this before & if so I'd be happy to go back through the digest, just let me know).

You had a discussion with Joe Bentley the other day regarding differing opinions between battling cancer and acceptance & I'd like to add my opinion on the subject, but first a little background... My wife had 20 years in a marital relationship with a man who beat her every time she offered an opinion or when he came under the influence of alcohol, as a result she was unable to express any type of anger for fear of another beating of her or her son & daughter, and so she developed liver cancer (which I am sure you know is an area of unvented or stored anger) a number of years after their divorce. In the mean time she and I had married and after her diagnosis we "battled" her cancer, but it was only after we had decided to stop the "battle" that she improved. She accepted that she had the disease, she accepted that she could overcome it, she accepted that the cancer presented her, myself and our children with lessons that we may have otherwise not learned and she simply decided to ask it to leave. She stopped the battle because, as she saw it, the cancer was caused by years of battle and to continue such, merely continued the very source of it's cause.

Of course, we both realise that many other situations contributed to Donna's cancer such as diet etc. but there can be no doubt that her previous marital battles contributed also. We changed her diet, changed the nutrition regime and changed the "battle" - that didn't mean that we were pleased she contracted the disease. It didn't mean that we became - what were your words? Namby pamby? We simply changed the atmosphere in which the cancer was first born.

Perhaps that is what Joe was aiming at?

Kind regards

Allan

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April 12, 2000

Dear Peggy,

Apparently this is not what he needs, since he is not responding to it.

Dr. Sam

April 29, 2000

Peggy Ho; I hope that by now you have your husband on Red-Raspberries and SPES, as discussed some time back. How is he doing; any major improvement yet? Best wishes, Cody.

cures

,

Along with so many others, I have watched the discourse between your self and Debbie & Joe. B, with interest. One of the troubles with argument is that no one ever really wins and the energy taken to conduct such is little more than a drain. Still it's always interesting to watch the varying aspects of such argument and if one is lucky, then at least some information can arise. I have a couple of questions from your "chat" with Debbie.

Can you explain what cancers are subject to being driven by methionine? Why? Is there a difference between these and other cancers regarding their malignancy? How would you say glutathione disguises cancer cells? Is it simply that cd4 & 8 cannot distinguish them and if so why? (Perhaps I've been inattentive when you have explained all this before & if so I'd be happy to go back through the digest, just let me know).

You had a discussion with Joe Bentley the other day regarding differing opinions between battling cancer and acceptance & I'd like to add my opinion on the subject, but first a little background... My wife had 20 years in a marital relationship with a man who beat her every time she offered an opinion or when he came under the influence of alcohol, as a result she was unable to express any type of anger for fear of another beating of her or her son & daughter, and so she developed liver cancer (which I am sure you know is an area of unvented or stored anger) a number of years after their divorce. In the mean time she and I had married and after her diagnosis we "battled" her cancer, but it was only after we had decided to stop the "battle" that she improved. She accepted that she had the disease, she accepted that she could overcome it, she accepted that the cancer presented her, myself and our children with lessons that we may have otherwise not learned and she simply decided to ask it to leave. She stopped the battle because, as she saw it, the cancer was caused by years of battle and to continue such, merely continued the very source of it's cause.

Of course, we both realise that many other situations contributed to Donna's cancer such as diet etc. but there can be no doubt that her previous marital battles contributed also. We changed her diet, changed the nutrition regime and changed the "battle" - that didn't mean that we were pleased she contracted the disease. It didn't mean that we became - what were your words? Namby pamby? We simply changed the atmosphere in which the cancer was first born.

Perhaps that is what Joe was aiming at?

Kind regards

Allan

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April 30, 2000

Hi,

Glutathione is an antioxidant for neutralizing the free radicals

produced as phase I byproducts in the liver detoxification process.

To disguise cancer cells, enzyme would break down the fibrin coating

of the cancer cell to unmask it so the immune system can identify as

nonself and then attack it. Enzyme also break down the cancer cell

antigen and the " glue " by which cancer cells attach to the vessel

walls and tissue. For more on enzyme please check

http://www.cures for cancer.f2s.com

Enzyme would help fight the inflammation.

Also stress decreases the production of enzyme which leads to illness.

Kind regards !

song

> Peggy Ho; I hope that by now you have your husband on

Red-Raspberries and SPES, as discussed some time back. How is he

doing; any major improvement yet? Best wishes, Cody.

>

> cures

>

> ,

> Along with so many others, I have watched the discourse

between your self and Debbie & Joe. B, with interest. One of the

troubles with argument is that no one ever really wins and the energy

taken to conduct such is little more than a drain. Still it's always

interesting to watch the varying aspects of such argument and if one

is lucky, then at least some information can arise. I have a couple

of questions from your " chat " with Debbie.

> Can you explain what cancers are subject to being

driven

by methionine? Why? Is there a difference between these and other

cancers regarding their malignancy? How would you say glutathione

disguises cancer cells? Is it simply that cd4 & 8 cannot distinguish

them and if so why? (Perhaps I've been inattentive when you have

explained all this before & if so I'd be happy to go back through the

digest, just let me know).

> You had a discussion with Joe Bentley the other day

regarding differing opinions between battling cancer and acceptance &

I'd like to add my opinion on the subject, but first a little

background... My wife had 20 years in a marital relationship with a

man who beat her every time she offered an opinion or when he came

under the influence of alcohol, as a result she was unable to express

any type of anger for fear of another beating of her or her son &

daughter, and so she developed liver cancer (which I am sure you know

is an area of unvented or stored anger) a number of years after their

divorce. In the mean time she and I had married and after her

diagnosis we " battled " her cancer, but it was only after we had

decided to stop the " battle " that she improved. She accepted that

she

had the disease, she accepted that she could overcome it, she

accepted

that the cancer presented her, myself and our children with lessons

that we may have otherwise not learned and she simply decided to ask

it to leave. She stopped the battle because, as she saw it, the

cancer was caused by years of battle and to continue such, merely

continued the very source of it's cause.

> Of course, we both realise that many other situations

contributed to Donna's cancer such as diet etc. but there can be no

doubt that her previous marital battles contributed also. We changed

her diet, changed the nutrition regime and changed the " battle " -

that

didn't mean that we were pleased she contracted the disease. It

didn't mean that we became - what were your words? Namby pamby? We

simply changed the atmosphere in which the cancer was first born.

> Perhaps that is what Joe was aiming at?

> Kind regards

> Allan

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GARY....CONTAC ME.......PAT

November 13, 2000

Cliff,

You have said to use the flax oil and cottage cheese. Is there a substitute

for the cottage cheese. My friend is willing to do cottage cheese, but an

alternative would be preferable.

Angie

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December 14, 2000

Dear Vilik,

I think that we live in barbarian times and we are

not even enlightened enough to realize it.

When the history of this era is written, it will be seen as a

time of great ignorance and suppression, far more pervasive

than what we commonly call " the dark ages " .

Cures for all these problems are at hand, but just try

and get the message out to the mainstream media -- fat chance.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

Cures

> Interesting article I found...~^^V^^~

>

> Does anybody know of " any " illness

> that has had a " cure " announced in the last 10 to 15

> years?

>

> I think this is a " very important " thing to give a lot of

> thought to!

>

> We live in a " time " when " the bottom line " means

> everything. What is the bottom line? PROFITS --- it's

> just that simple.

>

> QUESTION? If there were to be a " cure " for cancer (for

> example) would it be profitable for those in medicine to

> tell anybody or keep it under raps. Maybe there has

> already been one and it's being held in the hands of a

> pharmacutical company who would benefit, but

> everybody else would take a tremendous " hit "

> financially.

>

> To " cure " cancer would put the medical profession into

> a recession, if not the entire country. Think about

> everything that goes into the treatment of cancer.

> Many specialty hospitals (they would be shut down),

> equipment to diagnosis people (they would not be

> needed as much), then the medications themselves

> (not as many needed). All of this would lead to " a loss

> of profit " that would be extreme.

>

> Then think about what " we all have " either FMS or CFS

> , plus other things. Where is the insentive to " cure " us!

> Medicine is making " LOTS " of money off of us. If there

> were to be a cure for FMS, that alone would ravage the

> specialty of rheumatologist. It is 1/3 of their practices!

>

> I totally believe that " cures " are " intentionally " being

> withheld -- to keep feeding the greedy machine - called

> medicine. An Australian molecular biologist has referred

> to this present situation in medicine as " The Treadmill

> Effect " and we are the ones on the treadmill making

> the money come rolling in. ((Kinda funny when you

> think that the doctors actually want us on real

> treadmills)).

>

> I have read " many " articles written by molecular

> biologists who are " outraged " at medicine today. They

> are the ones trying to get the " big " agencies to listen

> to " what they have learned " and that they believe they

> can come up with " cures " . These " big agencies " don't

> want to hear about it.

>

> Agencies , such as the CDC , have their own pecking

> order. People that are researchers " need to pay their

> dues " to really be allowed to give an opinion on any

> illness, much less any input. That is " not " the case with

> researchers (especially molecular biologist) who have

> their own resurces. But if they don't follow " the medical

> party line " , they are practically thrown out on their

> faces and not allowed to publish their finding in much

> read medical journals, ect.

>

> If my feelings about this are correct --- it is a worse

> thing to do then the cover-up that the tabacco industry

> was sued for.

>

> But to make things " right " would probably lead to

> disaster with our economy and those with a lot to

> loose will block anything that will efect their " profits " .

>

> Even though people like J. Fox has now

> entered into things and has been allowed to speak in

> front of Congress, he quickly learned that if " he "

> wanted research done for Parkinsons - he had better

> not speak out to loudly " about the system " . He did at

> first, but hasn't for many months now. It is as if those

> with fame or a great deal of money - there is a

> different medical standard for them. They " can " pay the

> large amounts of money for the best of doctors and

> testing. And they can raise money for their own cause.

>

> I am finding that it seems just about every top agency,

> no matter whether political, medical, judicial - is not in

> any way " in touch " with the " real " problems of regular

> people. They don't go home to financial problems. The

> roof over their heads are not at risk. Their insurance

> coverage is not at risk. Unless they actually become

> " one of us " with CFS/FMS they have no interest and

> will continue to have no interest other then polite " lip

> service " .

>

> Those we elect, those we trust as doctors, agencies

> that should be on our side -------- we matter very little

> to them. They are doing what is becoming an all to

> familuar " thing " in the US. It's called looking out for

> numero-uno!! We are not invited to the White House

> Parties ---- not unless we have a big check to give

> some party. Money is what is speaking and making all

> the decisions.

>

> We have each other to express our thoughts to ---- but

> what we all really want is our health back. How will

> that ever occur in a country that is being run the way

> that it is being? Regardless of whether it is Democratic

> or Republican!

>

> Forget about our illnesses for a moment and think back

> to my original statement -------- if there was a " cure "

> for cancer, can you see how it might just " not " be

> expresed because it could and very likely would cause

> tremendous breakdowns in the profits of healthcare!

>

> And then again I ask -- has there been any " cures " in

> the last 10 to 15 years? These have been the years

> that the " stock market " has now become plastered all

> over the TV and everybody is " thought " to be in some

> mutual fund, ect. Most of us are just trying to pay the

> bills. I don't think " cures " are popular in medicine

> anymore because they realize they can make

> tremendous profit with drugs, other treatments, ect.

> They " do " have to cure enough people, but just to

> keep the public for really seeing this picture correctly.

>

> What do you think??

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

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December 14, 2000

In a message dated 12/14/2000 2:19:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vilik@... writes:

<< f there was a " cure "

for cancer, can you see how it might just " not " be

expresed because it could and very likely would cause

tremendous breakdowns in the profits of healthcare! >>

Dear Vilik:

You are right on target there. It has been a sore subject for decades.

Way back in 1920 Royal R Rife started researching a cure for cancer, and by

1932 he had isolated the cancer virus.In 1934 he opened a clinic which

successfullycured 16 of 16 cases within 3 month. He worked together with

leading researchers in America and doctors from California.His work was

described in Science Magazine, medical journals, and later the onian

Institution's annual report.

Unfortunateky, his work was stopped and both the research and treatments were

forced underground.

For 22 years doctors secretly continued curing cancer patients, but always

with opposition from medical and governmental authorities.

Rife died in 1971.

His partner took over and again authorities struck. He was jailed, equipment

was smashed, records were distroyed.

By sharing the long hidden facts,as well as thousands of documents preserved

from 1930's, His partner has enabled the full story to be told.

Barry Lynes, an investigative reporter was outraged by the injustice s that

had destroyed Rife's life and he wrote and published the findings in his book

>> The cancer cure that worked<<

After reading that book you really sit down and question our medical society

and all connected to it.

Sorry for venting but this is a sore subject with me, Christel

December 14, 2000

In a message dated 12/14/2000 2:19:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vilik@... writes:

<< f there was a " cure "

for cancer, can you see how it might just " not " be

expresed because it could and very likely would cause

tremendous breakdowns in the profits of healthcare! >>

Dear Vilik:

You are right on target there. It has been a sore subject for decades.

Way back in 1920 Royal R Rife started researching a cure for cancer, and by

1932 he had isolated the cancer virus.In 1934 he opened a clinic which

successfullycured 16 of 16 cases within 3 month. He worked together with

leading researchers in America and doctors from California.His work was

described in Science Magazine, medical journals, and later the onian

Institution's annual report.

Unfortunateky, his work was stopped and both the research and treatments were

forced underground.

For 22 years doctors secretly continued curing cancer patients, but always

with opposition from medical and governmental authorities.

Rife died in 1971.

His partner took over and again authorities struck. He was jailed, equipment

was smashed, records were distroyed.

By sharing the long hidden facts,as well as thousands of documents preserved

from 1930's, His partner has enabled the full story to be told.

Barry Lynes, an investigative reporter was outraged by the injustice s that

had destroyed Rife's life and he wrote and published the findings in his book

>> The cancer cure that worked<<

After reading that book you really sit down and question our medical society

and all connected to it.

Sorry for venting but this is a sore subject with me, Christel

December 14, 2000

Hello all!

Who was the author of this original article? I have some decidedly

strong feelings regarding the issue of cures and how they are controlled by

our govt. and pharma industries. The tobacco industry cover-up and resulting

lawsuits are TINY in comparison with what will happen when our nations people

realize what has happned to their health for the sake of money and corporate

power.

Yes, we may have to face some huge economic fallout to be able to go

forward and face a brighter future, but it's always taken a revolution to

bring about change.

The author of this article asked an important question... " how will we get

our health back in a country that's run the way it is? " It's important to

note that it's not just our country (assumed US)....all the countries of the

world are dealing with disease and pharmaceutical corporate influences. The

way we'll get our health back is to do what many of us are doing

now...living, being healthy, and making use of the " cures " w/o the

" permission " or approval of the (US) FDA, AMA, and pharm. industry. Do you

know it is illegal in the United States to claim a " cure " w/o the approval of

the FDA...even if it works quickly, easily and cheaply (imagine that). In

many ways, these agencies and industries have trained the mass of the

population to invest, donate, strive and only think toward a " single pill "

type cure for everything from AIDS, cancer, even the cold virus. All the

while, we're taught to consume, consume, consume. It's in the

over-consumption that we're creating our own illnesses.

During our continuing stuggle to find even the most simple " cures " , we

have become the most over-fed and undernourished nation in the world, with

well over half of american citizens being over-weight. I have studied this

interesting phenomenon in depth over the past 11 years. I was diagnosed with

aids in 1991 (testing poz for hiv in 1989). I had a choice back then to

either die on the meds like everyone else ...or find another way....so I

studied and learned like my life depended on it. Now that it's almost 2001,

I'm healthier & in better shape than a great majority of the population.

I've found that in the seemingly simple realm of nutrition, if you deny a

body the basic elements it needs to operate (vitmains/minerals), let it sit

w/o exercise, and then add large amounts of un-needed carbohydrates (simple

sugars are the worst), you'll find that you have cancer, you have virus,

you'll have infections of every kind. Any situation where there's an

over-abundance of food, and comfortable atmostphere, passing virus will be

happy to stop in and live there. Virus and cancer both require simple sugars

to survive. Virus don't process protien as their main source of food, they

utilize the sugar your body doesn't (or isn't) able to burn off fast enough.

Cancerous cells are formed when there's a fermentative state in the

body...this requires over-abundance of sugars as well.

So, the next time you stop to fill your car with gas...go in the

convenience store and look for a " healthy snack " ...one containing no sugar

(or sweetners), and higher in protien. Myself and many others are still

alive and healthy, and naturally, the doctors are amazed (whatever!) It's

truly not about a single pill type " cure " .....it's about not creating a body

that's a wonderful host for disease to begin with. So many people are

killing themselves with ignorance about how the body works. Many people are

simply creating a wonderful science experiment / test tube of a body...one

where they've beat their immune system down (in various ways), then added

food for virus, or other infections....then they're suprised when their

science experiment yields a healthy tumor or viral infection.

They can only keep people ignorant for so long...eventually the truth

rears it's head, and things begin to change.

Best of health to ya all!

w/peace

wes bennett

wesbenn@...

<A HREF= " www.knowledgeisthecure.com " >www.knowledgeisthecure.com</A>

December 14, 2000