Bird flu expected to hit U.S. in 2 years

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Bird flu expected to hit U.S. in 2 years

By Jim Maniaci, Cibola County Bureau

GRANTS — The world's most deadly flu epidemic is expected by the best

guesses currently available to hit the U.S. within two years.

This was the warning given to the Grants-Milan Rotary Club on Tuesday

by a University of New Mexico specialist helping organize pilot

projects in two of the state's 33 counties, Cibola and Grant.

Meetings in the area will take place from September to November,

Margo White said. The sessions are aimed at " turning a paper plan

into a community effort... You don't know how many talents you have

to share from the group itself, (talents) which will be needed. We

won't have the system as usual; we won't have life as usual. "

White said, " You don't want to be exchanging business cards at the

time the disaster starts. You need to know people in the community,

and who does what beforehand. You need to develop your talents and

your skills, including time care. The hospitals cannot manage it.

They will have their limited capacity.

" Everyone in the community will need to work together, to be

supportive when school closes, when students are home, when child

care is no longer possible. In the community, people will be on their

own. Helping others who can't stockpile, you should be able to do it.

I don't have a lot of solutions, but people will come up with

solutions, given the opportunity to do it. "

Vince , Cibola General Hospital's administrator, said his staff

has been stockpiling so much of what will be needed, for instance

masks, that CGH has run out of storage space.

" We'll look like a fortress, " he predicted, because everyone entering

will have to be screened. With a staff which he expects will be

decimated by the deadly illness, he said emergency triage ranking

patients in the order to be treated based on their condition will

have to be imposed.

White repeated what might happen, as well as her theme of everybody

has to help everybody else, many times.

She also distributed a sheet on the characteristics and challenges.

It said in the 20th Century the U.S. lost a half-million people in

the 1918 flu pandemic the shorter term used to describe a world-wide

epidemic with 70,000 Americans dying from the flu in 1957 and 34,000

in 1968.

White said the problem is " unprecedented. "

The virus H5N1 infects birds, which fly long distances. Wild birds

can infect domestic flocks and then get passed on to humans when they

come into contact with the domestic birds.

She compared a virus to a bunch of hoodlums who go into an expensive

neighborhood looking for clothing because they expect to find huge

closets in a big house. " They mix and match and swap until they get

what they want, " she said.

And when they depart they trash the place because, " It's all they

know how to do. "

Because of, among other things, the world's transportation system, it

will spread widely, health care systems will be overloaded, medical

supplies will be inadequate and there will be disruptions to the

economy and society. For instance, she said, schools will have to be

shut down and automatic teller machines will run out of currency

because there won't be enough people to refill them.

She called the situation " an opportunity to begin to mobilize all the

resources that you have and all the known skills, unknown skills,

forgotten skills (such as) preserving and canning food, developing

new capacities for home care that we all can learn. "

The flu is expected to hit in two or three waves, each lasting up to

two months, he cautioned.

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One must also be aware of the extreme caution that poultry suppliers

are taking to limit infections in their flocks. Non-workers are no

longer allowed to enter breeders. Those employess that do are required

to gown up (like working is a containment laboratory) and step into

disinfectant before they enter. The breeders themselves are cut off

from the outside world, prohibiting contact with wildlife. Although

avian flu might reach our shores in two years, these precautions

should inhibit its spread.

>

> Bird flu expected to hit U.S. in 2 years

> By Jim Maniaci, Cibola County Bureau

> GRANTS — The world's most deadly flu epidemic is expected by the best

> guesses currently available to hit the U.S. within two years.

>

> This was the warning given to the Grants-Milan Rotary Club on Tuesday

> by a University of New Mexico specialist helping organize pilot

> projects in two of the state's 33 counties, Cibola and Grant.

>

> Meetings in the area will take place from September to November,

> Margo White said. The sessions are aimed at " turning a paper plan

> into a community effort... You don't know how many talents you have

> to share from the group itself, (talents) which will be needed. We

> won't have the system as usual; we won't have life as usual. "

>

> White said, " You don't want to be exchanging business cards at the

> time the disaster starts. You need to know people in the community,

> and who does what beforehand. You need to develop your talents and

> your skills, including time care. The hospitals cannot manage it.

> They will have their limited capacity.

>

> " Everyone in the community will need to work together, to be

> supportive when school closes, when students are home, when child

> care is no longer possible. In the community, people will be on their

> own. Helping others who can't stockpile, you should be able to do it.

> I don't have a lot of solutions, but people will come up with

> solutions, given the opportunity to do it. "

>

> Vince , Cibola General Hospital's administrator, said his staff

> has been stockpiling so much of what will be needed, for instance

> masks, that CGH has run out of storage space.

>

> " We'll look like a fortress, " he predicted, because everyone entering

> will have to be screened. With a staff which he expects will be

> decimated by the deadly illness, he said emergency triage ranking

> patients in the order to be treated based on their condition will

> have to be imposed.

>

> White repeated what might happen, as well as her theme of everybody

> has to help everybody else, many times.

>

> She also distributed a sheet on the characteristics and challenges.

> It said in the 20th Century the U.S. lost a half-million people in

> the 1918 flu pandemic the shorter term used to describe a world-wide

> epidemic with 70,000 Americans dying from the flu in 1957 and 34,000

> in 1968.

>

> White said the problem is " unprecedented. "

>

> The virus H5N1 infects birds, which fly long distances. Wild birds

> can infect domestic flocks and then get passed on to humans when they

> come into contact with the domestic birds.

>

> She compared a virus to a bunch of hoodlums who go into an expensive

> neighborhood looking for clothing because they expect to find huge

> closets in a big house. " They mix and match and swap until they get

> what they want, " she said.

>

> And when they depart they trash the place because, " It's all they

> know how to do. "

>

> Because of, among other things, the world's transportation system, it

> will spread widely, health care systems will be overloaded, medical

> supplies will be inadequate and there will be disruptions to the

> economy and society. For instance, she said, schools will have to be

> shut down and automatic teller machines will run out of currency

> because there won't be enough people to refill them.

>

> She called the situation " an opportunity to begin to mobilize all the

> resources that you have and all the known skills, unknown skills,

> forgotten skills (such as) preserving and canning food, developing

> new capacities for home care that we all can learn. "

>

> The flu is expected to hit in two or three waves, each lasting up to

> two months, he cautioned.

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>

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It seems to me that they're saying we'll be seeing serious outbreaks among people rather than among birds, particularly the birds we like to eat. Poultry farmers are, from what I have heard, right on the ball about this. Most chickens are raised indoors, which probably doesn't make them all too happy, and big time sanitary measures are in place in those megacoops. Free-range chicken, however, is at a mich higher risk of contracting the virus. I don't know what those farmers are doing to protect their flocks and themselves and us as well. perrierstreet <perrierstreet@...> wrote: One must also be aware of the extreme caution that poultry suppliersare taking to limit infections in their flocks. Non-workers are nolonger allowed to enter breeders. Those employess that do are requiredto gown up (like working is a containment laboratory) and step intodisinfectant before they enter. The breeders themselves are cut offfrom the outside world, prohibiting contact with wildlife. Althoughavian flu might reach our shores in two years, these precautionsshould inhibit its spread.>> Bird flu expected to hit U.S. in 2 years> By Jim Maniaci, Cibola County Bureau> GRANTS — The world's most deadly flu epidemic is expected by the best > guesses

currently available to hit the U.S. within two years. > > This was the warning given to the Grants-Milan Rotary Club on Tuesday > by a University of New Mexico specialist helping organize pilot > projects in two of the state's 33 counties, Cibola and Grant. > > Meetings in the area will take place from September to November, > Margo White said. The sessions are aimed at "turning a paper plan > into a community effort... You don't know how many talents you have > to share from the group itself, (talents) which will be needed. We > won't have the system as usual; we won't have life as usual." > > White said, "You don't want to be exchanging business cards at the > time the disaster starts. You need to know people in the community, > and who does what beforehand. You need to develop your talents and > your skills, including time care. The hospitals cannot manage it.

> They will have their limited capacity. > > "Everyone in the community will need to work together, to be > supportive when school closes, when students are home, when child > care is no longer possible. In the community, people will be on their > own. Helping others who can't stockpile, you should be able to do it. > I don't have a lot of solutions, but people will come up with > solutions, given the opportunity to do it." > > Vince , Cibola General Hospital's administrator, said his staff > has been stockpiling so much of what will be needed, for instance > masks, that CGH has run out of storage space. > > "We'll look like a fortress," he predicted, because everyone entering > will have to be screened. With a staff which he expects will be > decimated by the deadly illness, he said emergency triage ranking > patients in the order to be treated

based on their condition will > have to be imposed. > > White repeated what might happen, as well as her theme of everybody > has to help everybody else, many times. > > She also distributed a sheet on the characteristics and challenges. > It said in the 20th Century the U.S. lost a half-million people in > the 1918 flu pandemic the shorter term used to describe a world-wide > epidemic with 70,000 Americans dying from the flu in 1957 and 34,000 > in 1968. > > White said the problem is "unprecedented." > > The virus H5N1 infects birds, which fly long distances. Wild birds > can infect domestic flocks and then get passed on to humans when they > come into contact with the domestic birds. > > She compared a virus to a bunch of hoodlums who go into an expensive > neighborhood looking for clothing because they expect to find huge >

closets in a big house. "They mix and match and swap until they get > what they want," she said. > > And when they depart they trash the place because, "It's all they > know how to do." > > Because of, among other things, the world's transportation system, it > will spread widely, health care systems will be overloaded, medical > supplies will be inadequate and there will be disruptions to the > economy and society. For instance, she said, schools will have to be > shut down and automatic teller machines will run out of currency > because there won't be enough people to refill them. > > She called the situation "an opportunity to begin to mobilize all the > resources that you have and all the known skills, unknown skills, > forgotten skills (such as) preserving and canning food, developing > new capacities for home care that we all can learn." > >

The flu is expected to hit in two or three waves, each lasting up to > two months, he cautioned. > http://www.gallupindependent.com/2006/aug/083106birdflu.html> . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie

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If they are listening to one of the natural and organic "gurus", ph Mercola, and likely many of them are, then they believe this whole thing is a hoax to make money for the government and they will do nothing. Scary for me since I have porphyria and really need to eat foods that are free of all chemicals, hormones, and antibiotics in order to preserve my health and life. I am going off poultry all together for the foreseeable future! I am concerned about other organic meats too. What if cows and pigs eat some chicken droppings with their grass and slop? They could get H5N1 too. I know supposedly cooking food kills it but having the raw stuff in the house would freak me out! I am a little paranoid I guess but even the seasonal flu would kill me( I am staying in to avoid it) so I sure don't want to get this one! Tamarin B <rboylern@...> wrote: It seems to me that they're saying we'll be seeing serious outbreaks among people rather than among birds, particularly the birds we like to eat. Poultry farmers are, from what I have heard, right on the ball about this. Most chickens are raised indoors, which probably doesn't make them all too happy, and big time sanitary measures are in place in those megacoops. Free-range chicken, however, is at a mich higher risk of contracting the virus. I don't know what those farmers are doing to protect their flocks and themselves and us as well. perrierstreet <perrierstreet > wrote: One must also be aware of the extreme caution that poultry suppliersare taking to limit infections in their flocks. Non-workers are nolonger allowed to enter breeders. Those employess that do are requiredto gown up (like working is a containment laboratory) and step intodisinfectant before they enter. The breeders themselves are cut offfrom the outside world, prohibiting contact with wildlife. Althoughavian flu might reach our shores in two years, these precautionsshould inhibit its spread.>> Bird flu expected to hit U.S. in 2 years> By Jim Maniaci, Cibola County

Bureau> GRANTS — The world's most deadly flu epidemic is expected by the best > guesses currently available to hit the U.S. within two years. > > This was the warning given to the Grants-Milan Rotary Club on Tuesday > by a University of New Mexico specialist helping organize pilot > projects in two of the state's 33 counties, Cibola and Grant. > > Meetings in the area will take place from September to November, > Margo White said. The sessions are aimed at "turning a paper plan > into a community effort... You don't know how many talents you have > to share from the group itself, (talents) which will be needed. We > won't have the system as usual; we won't have life as usual." > > White said, "You don't want to be exchanging business cards at the > time the disaster starts. You need to know people in the community, > and who does what beforehand. You need to

develop your talents and > your skills, including time care. The hospitals cannot manage it. > They will have their limited capacity. > > "Everyone in the community will need to work together, to be > supportive when school closes, when students are home, when child > care is no longer possible. In the community, people will be on their > own. Helping others who can't stockpile, you should be able to do it. > I don't have a lot of solutions, but people will come up with > solutions, given the opportunity to do it." > > Vince , Cibola General Hospital's administrator, said his staff > has been stockpiling so much of what will be needed, for instance > masks, that CGH has run out of storage space. > > "We'll look like a fortress," he predicted, because everyone entering > will have to be screened. With a staff which he expects will be > decimated by

the deadly illness, he said emergency triage ranking > patients in the order to be treated based on their condition will > have to be imposed. > > White repeated what might happen, as well as her theme of everybody > has to help everybody else, many times. > > She also distributed a sheet on the characteristics and challenges. > It said in the 20th Century the U.S. lost a half-million people in > the 1918 flu pandemic the shorter term used to describe a world-wide > epidemic with 70,000 Americans dying from the flu in 1957 and 34,000 > in 1968. > > White said the problem is "unprecedented." > > The virus H5N1 infects birds, which fly long distances. Wild birds > can infect domestic flocks and then get passed on to humans when they > come into contact with the domestic birds. > > She compared a virus to a bunch of hoodlums who go into an

expensive > neighborhood looking for clothing because they expect to find huge > closets in a big house. "They mix and match and swap until they get > what they want," she said. > > And when they depart they trash the place because, "It's all they > know how to do." > > Because of, among other things, the world's transportation system, it > will spread widely, health care systems will be overloaded, medical > supplies will be inadequate and there will be disruptions to the > economy and society. For instance, she said, schools will have to be > shut down and automatic teller machines will run out of currency > because there won't be enough people to refill them. > > She called the situation "an opportunity to begin to mobilize all the > resources that you have and all the known skills, unknown skills, > forgotten skills (such as) preserving and canning

food, developing > new capacities for home care that we all can learn." > > The flu is expected to hit in two or three waves, each lasting up to > two months, he cautioned. > http://www.gallupindependent.com/2006/aug/083106birdflu.html> . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie

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Since you live with porphyria, your concerns are more than justified. I'd be pretty anxious about it myself. Tammy Pennell <tamarin1988@...> wrote: If they are listening to one of the natural and organic "gurus", ph Mercola, and likely many of them are, then they believe this whole thing is a hoax to make money for the government and they will do nothing. Scary for me since I have porphyria and really need to eat foods that are free of all chemicals, hormones, and antibiotics in order to preserve my

health and life. I am going off poultry all together for the foreseeable future! I am concerned about other organic meats too. What if cows and pigs eat some chicken droppings with their grass and slop? They could get H5N1 too. I know supposedly cooking food kills it but having the raw stuff in the house would freak me out! I am a little paranoid I guess but even the seasonal flu would kill me( I am staying in to avoid it) so I sure don't want to get this one! Tamarin B <rboylern > wrote: It seems to me that they're saying we'll be seeing serious outbreaks among people rather than among birds, particularly the birds we like to eat. Poultry farmers are, from what I have heard, right on the ball about this. Most chickens are raised indoors, which

probably doesn't make them all too happy, and big time sanitary measures are in place in those megacoops. Free-range chicken, however, is at a mich higher risk of contracting the virus. I don't know what those farmers are doing to protect their flocks and themselves and us as well. perrierstreet <perrierstreet > wrote: One must also be aware of the extreme caution that poultry suppliersare taking to limit infections in their flocks. Non-workers are nolonger allowed to enter breeders. Those employess that do are requiredto gown up (like working is a containment laboratory) and step intodisinfectant before they enter. The breeders themselves are cut offfrom the outside world, prohibiting contact with wildlife. Althoughavian flu might reach our shores in two

years, these precautionsshould inhibit its spread.>> Bird flu expected to hit U.S. in 2 years> By Jim Maniaci, Cibola County Bureau> GRANTS — The world's most deadly flu epidemic is expected by the best > guesses currently available to hit the U.S. within two years. > > This was the warning given to the Grants-Milan Rotary Club on Tuesday > by a University of New Mexico specialist helping organize pilot > projects in two of the state's 33 counties, Cibola and Grant. > > Meetings in the area will take place from September to November, > Margo White said. The sessions are aimed at "turning a paper plan > into a community effort... You don't know how many talents you have > to share from the group itself, (talents) which will

be needed. We > won't have the system as usual; we won't have life as usual." > > White said, "You don't want to be exchanging business cards at the > time the disaster starts. You need to know people in the community, > and who does what beforehand. You need to develop your talents and > your skills, including time care. The hospitals cannot manage it. > They will have their limited capacity. > > "Everyone in the community will need to work together, to be > supportive when school closes, when students are home, when child > care is no longer possible. In the community, people will be on their > own. Helping others who can't stockpile, you should be able to do it. > I don't have a lot of solutions, but people will come up with > solutions, given the opportunity to do it." > > Vince , Cibola General Hospital's administrator, said his staff > has been

stockpiling so much of what will be needed, for instance > masks, that CGH has run out of storage space. > > "We'll look like a fortress," he predicted, because everyone entering > will have to be screened. With a staff which he expects will be > decimated by the deadly illness, he said emergency triage ranking > patients in the order to be treated based on their condition will > have to be imposed. > > White repeated what might happen, as well as her theme of everybody > has to help everybody else, many times. > > She also distributed a sheet on the characteristics and challenges. > It said in the 20th Century the U.S. lost a half-million people in > the 1918 flu pandemic the shorter term used to describe a world-wide > epidemic with 70,000 Americans dying from the flu in 1957 and 34,000 > in 1968. > > White said the problem is

"unprecedented." > > The virus H5N1 infects birds, which fly long distances. Wild birds > can infect domestic flocks and then get passed on to humans when they > come into contact with the domestic birds. > > She compared a virus to a bunch of hoodlums who go into an expensive > neighborhood looking for clothing because they expect to find huge > closets in a big house. "They mix and match and swap until they get > what they want," she said. > > And when they depart they trash the place because, "It's all they > know how to do." > > Because of, among other things, the world's transportation system, it > will spread widely, health care systems will be overloaded, medical > supplies will be inadequate and there will be disruptions to the > economy and society. For instance, she said, schools will have to be > shut down and automatic teller

machines will run out of currency > because there won't be enough people to refill them. > > She called the situation "an opportunity to begin to mobilize all the > resources that you have and all the known skills, unknown skills, > forgotten skills (such as) preserving and canning food, developing > new capacities for home care that we all can learn." > > The flu is expected to hit in two or three waves, each lasting up to > two months, he cautioned. > http://www.gallupindependent.com/2006/aug/083106birdflu.html> . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie