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From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are better for

me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night thinking, I

just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up this

morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself around and

got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a Mc's on

the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low energy,

feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing programs.

Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest, too,

and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads have

cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main dish,

then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within reason),

and

I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask other

people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't like, or

if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be prepared

somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

Generally

people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

vegetables, so I ask.

When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or wheat

and

leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease cause it

doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of work. I

am

trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the summer

barbeque and salad is easy.

In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting gelatin

salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out what

they

usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure what I

would do then!!!

Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring what

they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you are

not

hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

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I just started trying deglycerized licorice which is recommended for O's.

I've been taking the Solgar brand of it for the past week. The first thing

I noticed is that my lower back pain (which I asociate with exhausted

adrenal glands) eased. Now even when I exercise, it doesn't come back.

Yesterday, another aspect of the licorice started to work. It seems to be

gently clearing out excess mucus which has been stored here and there over

the years. Without any feeling of illness, I coughed up mucus and had

several large bowel movements yesterday. I feel great today. Interesting

stuff.

Aikya

Multiple answers

>

> From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

>

> Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are better for

> me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night thinking, I

> just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up this

> morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself around

and

> got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a Mc's

on

> the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low energy,

> feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing programs.

> Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest, too,

> and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads have

> cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main dish,

> then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

>

>

> Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within reason),

> and

> I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask other

> people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't like, or

> if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be prepared

> somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> Generally

> people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

> vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

> vegetables, so I ask.

>

> When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or wheat

> and

> leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease cause it

> doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of work. I

> am

> trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the summer

> barbeque and salad is easy.

> In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting gelatin

> salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out what

> they

> usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure what I

> would do then!!!

>

> Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring what

> they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you are

> not

> hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

>

> ***

>

>

>

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" Thanks, Aikya. That's another good point. I bought deglycerized licorice

about a month ago and took it for a couple of days, then my husband and I

went away for a couple of weeks and didn't bring it along. So now we're

back home and forgetting about the licorice. I'll start us on it again and

look for good results, like the ones you had. Thanks! Carol "

Re: Multiple answers

From: " aikya " <aikya@...>

I just started trying deglycerized licorice which is recommended for O's.

I've been taking the Solgar brand of it for the past week. The first thing

I noticed is that my lower back pain (which I asociate with exhausted

adrenal glands) eased. Now even when I exercise, it doesn't come back.

Yesterday, another aspect of the licorice started to work. It seems to be

gently clearing out excess mucus which has been stored here and there over

the years. Without any feeling of illness, I coughed up mucus and had

several large bowel movements yesterday. I feel great today. Interesting

stuff.

Aikya

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You've inspired me Aikya. I usually take licorice although just the normal

kind (don't have hypertension and do ok with it). It has anti-inflammatory

properties and laxative properties and helps with lung congestion. All the

things you mentioned. I need to get back on it. I am in lots of pain right

now. Maybe its cause I had so much rice dream ice cream after seeing a

dentist recently. Have blood sugar imbalances and must have thrown myself

off. I am a sugarholic from way back. Have to be really strict. Maybe its

why I'm hurting so bad in my low back (where I also have DDD after a

trauma). You have given me hope. Thanks. Jeanie

> From: " aikya " <aikya@...>

>

> I just started trying deglycerized licorice which is recommended for O's.

> I've been taking the Solgar brand of it for the past week. The first

thing

> I noticed is that my lower back pain (which I asociate with exhausted

> adrenal glands) eased. Now even when I exercise, it doesn't come back.

> Yesterday, another aspect of the licorice started to work. It seems to be

> gently clearing out excess mucus which has been stored here and there over

> the years. Without any feeling of illness, I coughed up mucus and had

> several large bowel movements yesterday. I feel great today. Interesting

> stuff.

>

> Aikya

>

> Multiple answers

> >

> > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> >

> > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are better

for

> > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night thinking,

I

> > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up this

> > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself around

> and

> > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a Mc's

> on

> > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low

energy,

> > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing programs.

> > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest,

too,

> > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads have

> > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main dish,

> > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> >

> >

> > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within reason),

> > and

> > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask

other

> > people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't like,

or

> > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be prepared

> > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > Generally

> > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

> > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

> > vegetables, so I ask.

> >

> > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or wheat

> > and

> > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease cause

it

> > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of work.

I

> > am

> > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the

summer

> > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting gelatin

> > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out what

> > they

> > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure what

I

> > would do then!!!

> >

> > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring

what

> > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you are

> > not

> > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> >

> > ***

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 10/15/1999 9:53:00 AM Central Daylight Time,

adams@... writes:

<< just started trying deglycerized licorice which is recommended for O's.

I've been taking the Solgar brand of it for the past week. >>

I have been takin DLG from Solgar as well the past week. I haven't noticed

anything miraculous but hope that I will.

Thanks,

Rochelle

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Gee, that is a good tip.What about Kelp? Has anyone tried that and had success

with it?

bibi

aikya wrote:

> From: " aikya " <aikya@...>

>

> I just started trying deglycerized licorice which is recommended for O's.

> I've been taking the Solgar brand of it for the past week. The first thing

> I noticed is that my lower back pain (which I asociate with exhausted

> adrenal glands) eased. Now even when I exercise, it doesn't come back.

> Yesterday, another aspect of the licorice started to work. It seems to be

> gently clearing out excess mucus which has been stored here and there over

> the years. Without any feeling of illness, I coughed up mucus and had

> several large bowel movements yesterday. I feel great today. Interesting

> stuff.

>

> Aikya

>

> Multiple answers

> >

> > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> >

> > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are better for

> > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night thinking, I

> > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up this

> > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself around

> and

> > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a Mc's

> on

> > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low energy,

> > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing programs.

> > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest, too,

> > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads have

> > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main dish,

> > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> >

> >

> > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within reason),

> > and

> > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask other

> > people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't like, or

> > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be prepared

> > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > Generally

> > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

> > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

> > vegetables, so I ask.

> >

> > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or wheat

> > and

> > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease cause it

> > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of work. I

> > am

> > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the summer

> > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting gelatin

> > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out what

> > they

> > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure what I

> > would do then!!!

> >

> > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring what

> > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you are

> > not

> > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> >

> > ***

> >

> >

> >

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Kelp is great. I have been taking a product called Thyroid factors by s.

I have been loosing approx. 2 pounds a day. It is kind of scary to loose so

much so fast. (And my doctors said my thyroid was fine). Alls I did to check

it was to take my temp in the morning before getting out of bed. My temp was

96.7 (no wonder I was freezing all the time) It is now up to 98.2...almost

normal. I have been taking it for two 1/2 weeks.

If your temp is not 98.6 then it is off and needs to be regulated. The thyroid

factor is loaded with kelp. So it helps tremendously. I have also started

taking thyroid by products. They have bovine thyroid parts that replace the

weakened part of my thyroid ...or something like that. Either way it is working

and is great.

Multiple answers

> >

> > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> >

> > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are better for

> > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night thinking, I

> > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up this

> > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself around

> and

> > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a Mc's

> on

> > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low energy,

> > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing programs.

> > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest, too,

> > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads have

> > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main dish,

> > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> >

> >

> > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within reason),

> > and

> > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask other

> > people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't like, or

> > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be prepared

> > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > Generally

> > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

> > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

> > vegetables, so I ask.

> >

> > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or wheat

> > and

> > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease cause it

> > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of work. I

> > am

> > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the summer

> > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting gelatin

> > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out what

> > they

> > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure what I

> > would do then!!!

> >

> > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring what

> > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you are

> > not

> > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> >

> > ***

> >

> >

> >

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Hi J,

You know? there are lots of items in the diabetic section that are sugarless

that you could enjoy, only thing is, you must watch the wheat.If it's not one

thing it's another, right?

The sugar habit comes from the body craving the carbs, not the sugars.I have it

myself, especially at night.Must be when the insulin drops, I guess.Either

way.We have been taught by the industry that fat is bad and carbs are ok.Now

it's beginning to turn around and when you see the back of a non-fat item, you

can see a lot of sugar and carbs.

I don't trust the industry.There is sugar everywhere.It's better to go to a

health food store and even then, check the labels closely, especially the

sugars!

As far a hormones in the meat, your best bet is again, the health food store

with a meat market.The meat there should have no hormones so you do not have to

worry about checking the labels.

Bibi

jverner wrote:

> From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

>

> You've inspired me Aikya. I usually take licorice although just the normal

> kind (don't have hypertension and do ok with it). It has anti-inflammatory

> properties and laxative properties and helps with lung congestion. All the

> things you mentioned. I need to get back on it. I am in lots of pain right

> now. Maybe its cause I had so much rice dream ice cream after seeing a

> dentist recently. Have blood sugar imbalances and must have thrown myself

> off. I am a sugarholic from way back. Have to be really strict. Maybe its

> why I'm hurting so bad in my low back (where I also have DDD after a

> trauma). You have given me hope. Thanks. Jeanie

>

> > From: " aikya " <aikya@...>

> >

> > I just started trying deglycerized licorice which is recommended for O's.

> > I've been taking the Solgar brand of it for the past week. The first

> thing

> > I noticed is that my lower back pain (which I asociate with exhausted

> > adrenal glands) eased. Now even when I exercise, it doesn't come back.

> > Yesterday, another aspect of the licorice started to work. It seems to be

> > gently clearing out excess mucus which has been stored here and there over

> > the years. Without any feeling of illness, I coughed up mucus and had

> > several large bowel movements yesterday. I feel great today. Interesting

> > stuff.

> >

> > Aikya

> >

> > Multiple answers

> > >

> > > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> > >

> > > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are better

> for

> > > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night thinking,

> I

> > > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up this

> > > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself around

> > and

> > > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a Mc's

> > on

> > > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low

> energy,

> > > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing programs.

> > > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest,

> too,

> > > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads have

> > > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main dish,

> > > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> > >

> > >

> > > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within reason),

> > > and

> > > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask

> other

> > > people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't like,

> or

> > > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be prepared

> > > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > > Generally

> > > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

> > > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

> > > vegetables, so I ask.

> > >

> > > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or wheat

> > > and

> > > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease cause

> it

> > > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of work.

> I

> > > am

> > > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the

> summer

> > > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting gelatin

> > > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out what

> > > they

> > > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure what

> I

> > > would do then!!!

> > >

> > > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring

> what

> > > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you are

> > > not

> > > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I don't know when my temp has been 98.6 ...the other night I took it under

the arm and it was 95.2. it was up a bit in the morning to 96.7...I think I'm

hypothermic LOL.

My thryoid med has been stepped up in the past couple of months and I started

taking kelp last week so I have high hopes.

Rochelle

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Thank you Bibi, That makes sense. I have fibromyalgia which means low

seratonin levels and also live in AK where the sunlight situation is, shall

we say, strange. Causes carbohydrate cravings to try and make seratonin

when the sun goes away for a few months (practically). Lot of grey days

and very very short days. I do a lot better that way than I use to since

taking 5-HTP. It will probably be good for me to not have any carob chips.

I over ate them. Its snowing like crazy here right now. Guess we could be

dealing with the hurricanes though. We use to live right on the coast of

VA. They have really gotten pummeled this year. Especially NC. Hope if

any of you live near there that you fare all right. Jeanie

> From: bangel@...

>

> Hi J,

> You know? there are lots of items in the diabetic section that are

sugarless

> that you could enjoy, only thing is, you must watch the wheat.If it's not

one

> thing it's another, right?

> The sugar habit comes from the body craving the carbs, not the sugars.I

have it

> myself, especially at night.Must be when the insulin drops, I guess.Either

> way.We have been taught by the industry that fat is bad and carbs are

ok.Now

> it's beginning to turn around and when you see the back of a non-fat item,

you

> can see a lot of sugar and carbs.

> I don't trust the industry.There is sugar everywhere.It's better to go to

a

> health food store and even then, check the labels closely, especially the

> sugars!

> As far a hormones in the meat, your best bet is again, the health food

store

> with a meat market.The meat there should have no hormones so you do not

have to

> worry about checking the labels.

> Bibi

>

> jverner wrote:

>

> > From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

> >

> > You've inspired me Aikya. I usually take licorice although just the

normal

> > kind (don't have hypertension and do ok with it). It has

anti-inflammatory

> > properties and laxative properties and helps with lung congestion. All

the

> > things you mentioned. I need to get back on it. I am in lots of pain

right

> > now. Maybe its cause I had so much rice dream ice cream after seeing a

> > dentist recently. Have blood sugar imbalances and must have thrown

myself

> > off. I am a sugarholic from way back. Have to be really strict. Maybe

its

> > why I'm hurting so bad in my low back (where I also have DDD after a

> > trauma). You have given me hope. Thanks. Jeanie

> >

> > > From: " aikya " <aikya@...>

> > >

> > > I just started trying deglycerized licorice which is recommended for

O's.

> > > I've been taking the Solgar brand of it for the past week. The first

> > thing

> > > I noticed is that my lower back pain (which I asociate with exhausted

> > > adrenal glands) eased. Now even when I exercise, it doesn't come

back.

> > > Yesterday, another aspect of the licorice started to work. It seems

to be

> > > gently clearing out excess mucus which has been stored here and there

over

> > > the years. Without any feeling of illness, I coughed up mucus and had

> > > several large bowel movements yesterday. I feel great today.

Interesting

> > > stuff.

> > >

> > > Aikya

> > >

> > > Multiple answers

> > > >

> > > > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> > > >

> > > > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are

better

> > for

> > > > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night

thinking,

> > I

> > > > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up

this

> > > > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself

around

> > > and

> > > > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a

Mc's

> > > on

> > > > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low

> > energy,

> > > > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing

programs.

> > > > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest,

> > too,

> > > > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads

have

> > > > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main

dish,

> > > > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within

reason),

> > > > and

> > > > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask

> > other

> > > > people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't

like,

> > or

> > > > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be

prepared

> > > > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > > > Generally

> > > > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

> > > > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

> > > > vegetables, so I ask.

> > > >

> > > > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or

wheat

> > > > and

> > > > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease

cause

> > it

> > > > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of

work.

> > I

> > > > am

> > > > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the

> > summer

> > > > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > > > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting

gelatin

> > > > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out

what

> > > > they

> > > > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure

what

> > I

> > > > would do then!!!

> > > >

> > > > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring

> > what

> > > > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you

are

> > > > not

> > > > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I'm returning to my Irish roots and eating kelp as a snack. The actual

dried seaweed that is, not the supplement tablet. The Irish eat it the way

we eat potato chips...that kind of snack. Right now I am trying to get my

thyroid back on-line. I also eat cooked seaweed and try to eat a lot of

fish. Besides that I am increasing my exercise. The latter seems to be

speeding things up most but I'm sure it all helps.

Aikya

Multiple answers

> > >

> > > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> > >

> > > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are better

for

> > > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night

thinking, I

> > > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up

this

> > > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself

around

> > and

> > > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a

Mc's

> > on

> > > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low

energy,

> > > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing

programs.

> > > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest,

too,

> > > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads have

> > > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main

dish,

> > > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> > >

> > >

> > > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within

reason),

> > > and

> > > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask

other

> > > people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't

like, or

> > > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be

prepared

> > > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > > Generally

> > > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

> > > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

> > > vegetables, so I ask.

> > >

> > > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or

wheat

> > > and

> > > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease cause

it

> > > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of work.

I

> > > am

> > > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the

summer

> > > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting

gelatin

> > > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out

what

> > > they

> > > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure

what I

> > > would do then!!!

> > >

> > > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring

what

> > > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you

are

> > > not

> > > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > >

> > >

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You must be pretty slim Aikya. I admire your discipline. How is dried

seaweed? It just doesn't sound real appealing. Another person I know with

FMS up here said she has been hurting a lot too lately with the weather

changes. That was encouraging for me to hear - and I ate better today. I'm

at the part of my cycle where I tend to be, shall we say, less

discriminating. I don't really have a weight problem - but it sure affects

my pain levels. I think I have been discouraged cause I hurt so bad

seemingly no matter what lately at least. But I hurt even worse when I

don't eat right. Sorry to gripe. I know several of you can relate though.

Winter is here to stay where I am. Hope I'm not like this all winter.

Jeanie

> From: " aikya " <aikya@...>

>

> I'm returning to my Irish roots and eating kelp as a snack. The actual

> dried seaweed that is, not the supplement tablet. The Irish eat it the

way

> we eat potato chips...that kind of snack. Right now I am trying to get my

> thyroid back on-line. I also eat cooked seaweed and try to eat a lot of

> fish. Besides that I am increasing my exercise. The latter seems to be

> speeding things up most but I'm sure it all helps.

>

> Aikya

>

> Multiple answers

> > > >

> > > > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> > > >

> > > > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are

better

> for

> > > > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night

> thinking, I

> > > > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got up

> this

> > > > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself

> around

> > > and

> > > > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a

> Mc's

> > > on

> > > > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low

> energy,

> > > > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing

> programs.

> > > > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the Midwest,

> too,

> > > > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads

have

> > > > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main

> dish,

> > > > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within

> reason),

> > > > and

> > > > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always ask

> other

> > > > people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't

> like, or

> > > > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be

> prepared

> > > > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > > > Generally

> > > > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will eat

> > > > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like some

> > > > vegetables, so I ask.

> > > >

> > > > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or

> wheat

> > > > and

> > > > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease

cause

> it

> > > > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of

work.

> I

> > > > am

> > > > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in the

> summer

> > > > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > > > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting

> gelatin

> > > > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out

> what

> > > > they

> > > > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure

> what I

> > > > would do then!!!

> > > >

> > > > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can bring

> what

> > > > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that you

> are

> > > > not

> > > > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> > > >

> > > > ***

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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In a message dated 10/18/1999 12:13:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< Winter is here to stay where I am. >>

Hi Jeanie,

I sure feel sorry for you with winter starting so soon. I live near Toronto,

Ontario, Canada, and I thought it was bad enough because we have had 2 frosts

that turned all of my flowers to mush. I am sure that winter makes every

ailment worse (except for hayfever). Is it a damp cold in Alaska, or a dry

cold. Everyone says that a damp cold is worse for aches and pains, but I

feel when it is cold, it doesn't matter what kind it is, cold is cold.

I have not tried seaweed, but it sounds like something I should. I wonder if

anyone has thought of making seaweed chips, would be a good substitute for

potato chips.

Regards,

Sharon

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In a message dated 10/18/1999 2:25:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< You folks get pretty serious winters there

too though don't you? >>

Hi Jeannie,

It isn't too bad here. We are right on the end of Lake Ontario in Southern

Ontario and the lakes moderate the weather. Last winter we had three large

snowstorms the first 3 weeks of Jan. and that was it. Other than that we had

hardly any snow. In Jan. we usually get some temperatures of around 0 for a

week or 2. The rest of the winter it is usually in the teens and 20's in the

daytime, and cooler at night. Buffalo is south across the lake from us (40

miles by road) and they get a lot worse snow than we do, just because of the

winds and the snowbelts.

Right now the temperature is about 50, but on Saturday it was 75. Really

changeable. I have only had the furnace on once so far this winter.

I am glad that you are enjoying the experience. I have often said that where

I live is as far north as I ever want to be and that the only reason I live

here is because I was born here and I am too stupid to move. LOL It is a

pretty area, but I HATE winter and this time of year I start looking at the

ads for trips to Florida.

Good luck in your ER4YT eating. I started in March and did really well for 3

months. I lowered my cholesterol from 280 to 214 in 3 months. I have to

admit that over the summer I strayed a lot. I was going out for dinner often

and it is hard to stick to the diet with french fries, rolls, etc. staring

you in the face. I am starting to get back on track now.

Regards,

Sharon

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Hi Sharon - thank you for the sympathy - but I have adjusted to the seasonal

cycle up here. This time of year its beautiful really. QUite a winter

wonderland. Its still snowing this morning. It is actually wetter the

warmer it is. As it gets colder it becomes a dry cold. It has gotten as

low as 9 so far and gets into the 20's now. Believe it or not it doesn't

feel as cold now. You sure need to add moisture to your environment in the

house though. We had a beautiful summer. Summers are a trip. For about 3

months there is literally no night. We have about 7 months of winter up

here. Afterall - we are right below the arctic circle. I'm viewing it like

an adventure. But it can be depressing if your chemistry is off. And you

get pretty tired of it by spring. Jan. and Feb. are the worst months. We

got to 50 below last year, but normally you will have week stretches here

and there of 40 below. Generally it stays between 30 below and 20 below

then. I know it sounds unbelievable - its like being in a freezer for

awhile. But there is generally no windchill. What I don't like is the

inversion layers then because the man made exhaust, etc. just hangs in the

air. I like it better when the air moves around - but its much colder that

way. You just stay inside as much as you can those months. But its

beautiful right now. Its getting darker and darker though. It will peak

out Dec. 21st and then start gaining a few minutes of sun light a day.

Jeanie

> From: SFerris769@...

>

> In a message dated 10/18/1999 12:13:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> jverner@... writes:

>

> << Winter is here to stay where I am. >>

>

> Hi Jeanie,

>

> I sure feel sorry for you with winter starting so soon. I live near

Toronto,

> Ontario, Canada, and I thought it was bad enough because we have had 2

frosts

> that turned all of my flowers to mush. I am sure that winter makes every

> ailment worse (except for hayfever). Is it a damp cold in Alaska, or a

dry

> cold. Everyone says that a damp cold is worse for aches and pains, but I

> feel when it is cold, it doesn't matter what kind it is, cold is cold.

>

> I have not tried seaweed, but it sounds like something I should. I wonder

if

> anyone has thought of making seaweed chips, would be a good substitute for

> potato chips.

>

> Regards,

> Sharon

>

> >

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I bet its beautiful there (Toronto). I've driven through the Yukon, but of

course, its not very populated. You folks get pretty serious winters there

too though don't you? Jeanie

> From: SFerris769@...

>

> In a message dated 10/18/1999 12:13:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> jverner@... writes:

>

> << Winter is here to stay where I am. >>

>

> Hi Jeanie,

>

> I sure feel sorry for you with winter starting so soon. I live near

Toronto,

> Ontario, Canada, and I thought it was bad enough because we have had 2

frosts

> that turned all of my flowers to mush. I am sure that winter makes every

> ailment worse (except for hayfever). Is it a damp cold in Alaska, or a

dry

> cold. Everyone says that a damp cold is worse for aches and pains, but I

> feel when it is cold, it doesn't matter what kind it is, cold is cold.

>

> I have not tried seaweed, but it sounds like something I should. I wonder

if

> anyone has thought of making seaweed chips, would be a good substitute for

> potato chips.

>

> Regards,

> Sharon

>

> >

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In a message dated 10/17/1999 1:49:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

bangel@... writes:

<< Gee, that is a good tip.What about Kelp? Has anyone tried that and had

success

with it? >>

I have begun using kelp as a veggie. I made an order to the Maine Seaweed

Company (minimum order 3 lbs) so of course I have a storable quantity on

hand. The day the box arrived I had already planned to do " refrigerator

soup " as my kids once called it - using the whatevers available. So I had

celery, onions, carrots, barley grains, a small piece of beef chipped into

thin slices, seasonings like ginger, jalapeno and garlic. So I took a piece

of the dried green kelp - really not too appetizing looking - and used

scissors to snip it into ribbon strips, and threw them into the soup pot.

Yummy! The texture and taste is not unlike spinach and it lends a slight

thickening to the broth. Seasoning is the key, but it really was one of the

best pots of soup I can remember. When I put a lunchtime plastic container

in the office frig, of course someone has to ask " what is THAT? " so I tell

them " seaweed soup. "

The object of my order above was to obtain bladderwrack at a more reasonable

cost. Anyone have any good suggestions for consuming that?

Betsy

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In a message dated 10/18/1999 12:13:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< Winter is here to stay where I am. Hope I'm not like this all winter.

Jeanie >>

Jeanie, I am very interested in your comment on winter. I'm one of the

rheumatoid arthritis folks in the group, and I have pointed out to my

rheumatologist that for five years running now, I can detect a downhill slide

from whatever point in my progress beginning about Labor Day. Christmas and

New Years I hit bottom and then begin to improve as the new year grows. And

I am in sunny south Florida! But even here there is a notable change in

length of daylight. I know that I revel in the quality of the light here,

and can hardly wait to get back when I travel north, especially in winter.

I know there has been some inquiry into the aspect of light exposure. Anyone

know of some good research into this phenom?

Betsy

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In a message dated 10/18/1999 8:51:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

SFerris769@... writes:

<< I wonder if

anyone has thought of making seaweed chips >>

My seaweed " instructions " (see earlier email) suggested roasting the kelp

fronds in a 200 degree oven until they were light and crisp. I tried it and

found they are 1.) reasonably tasty 2) naturally salty and 3) very crumbly.

In fact an easy way to reduce them to small pieces is to put them in a

plastic bag and crush.

Betsy

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In a message dated 10/18/1999 8:22:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Eso@... writes:

<< 1.) reasonably tasty >>

Hi Betsy,

Do they taste anything like a substitute for potato chips? Even a little bit?

Sharon

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In a message dated 10/18/1999 10:17:52 PM Central Daylight Time,

SFerris769@... writes:

<< Do they taste anything like a substitute for potato chips? Even a little

bit? >>

Hi Sharon,

I've tried the kelp chips, too...not too bad although I don't know how

similar they are to potato chips...they're pretty salty. Really good in a

salad. Also at one health food store I found sweet potato chips. They are

really good!

I've also discovered that I really like goat cheese. I like it on baked

sweet potatoes. It seems to satisfy the craving for baked potatoes.

Bananas are on our neutral list and I can't tolerate them. They make me

really queezy. Filberts are something I can't handle either....I am truly

allergic to them...inherited that from my dad...when I was 17 I ended up in

the emergency room vomiting and my skin burning and red. Funny how there are

so many variations among us.

I take a lot of calcium and am also on meds for osteoporosis which I have

in my back and hips. Thanks to my 'friend' Anne O'Rexia I have a few health

problems.

My metabolism has really slowed and I hate that.

In any case I am being overwhelmed by how much communication goes on on this

list.

Rochelle

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Hi Betsy - I have lived up here about 2 and 1/2 years and am going on my 3rd

winter. I'm no expert, but the phenomenon you are referring to is called

SAD, for Seasonal Affective Disorder. If you punch that in on the net you

are sure to find some information - at least places that sell stuff for it -

but it should shed some light on it. I know some people are a lot more

sensitive than others and that it is a real problem up here or any place

like WA where there are a lot of cloudy days. Here we deal with real

extremes that way of course because we also deal with really short days. I

do know that it affects seratonin levels. You see a lot of people up here

gain weight. I always add a layer of fat. Seems like natures way or

something. After all - this is the arctic or really close - but we crave

carbohydrates to try and produce seratonin which is lacking when there is no

sunlight. We also tend to produce more melatonin. Sadly - it still doesn't

help me sleep. Are you on an antidepressant? My only suggestion would be

to take 5-HTP which I take. That has helped me. Of course I am hurting

worse now. Don't know if that is a barometric factor or not. I am also

doing some serious detoxing right now. Cold tends to tense up the muscles

too. Some use special lights. Hope this helps. Jeanie

> Jeanie, I am very interested in your comment on winter. I'm one of the

> rheumatoid arthritis folks in the group, and I have pointed out to my

> rheumatologist that for five years running now, I can detect a downhill

slide

> from whatever point in my progress beginning about Labor Day. Christmas

and

> New Years I hit bottom and then begin to improve as the new year grows.

And

> I am in sunny south Florida! But even here there is a notable change in

> length of daylight. I know that I revel in the quality of the light here,

> and can hardly wait to get back when I travel north, especially in winter.

>

> I know there has been some inquiry into the aspect of light exposure.

Anyone

> know of some good research into this phenom?

>

> Betsy

>

> >

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I am currenlty very overweight. Never been so big in my life. My thyroid

is snoozing. Anybody else with a normal thyroid who was doing what I've

been dong would be losing weight like crazy. I can't think about this too

much or I'll give u[ amd sink into despair. I have to believe that the

exercise is helping. I know the diet is.

Aikya

Multiple answers

> > > > >

> > > > > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are

> better

> > for

> > > > > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night

> > thinking, I

> > > > > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got

up

> > this

> > > > > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself

> > around

> > > > and

> > > > > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a

> > Mc's

> > > > on

> > > > > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today, low

> > energy,

> > > > > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing

> > programs.

> > > > > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the

Midwest,

> > too,

> > > > > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads

> have

> > > > > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own main

> > dish,

> > > > > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within

> > reason),

> > > > > and

> > > > > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always

ask

> > other

> > > > > people if they have preferences, if there is something they don't

> > like, or

> > > > > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be

> > prepared

> > > > > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > > > > Generally

> > > > > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will

eat

> > > > > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like

some

> > > > > vegetables, so I ask.

> > > > >

> > > > > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup or

> > wheat

> > > > > and

> > > > > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease

> cause

> > it

> > > > > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of

> work.

> > I

> > > > > am

> > > > > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in

the

> > summer

> > > > > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > > > > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting

> > gelatin

> > > > > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find out

> > what

> > > > > they

> > > > > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not sure

> > what I

> > > > > would do then!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can

bring

> > what

> > > > > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that

you

> > are

> > > > > not

> > > > > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> > > > >

> > > > > ***

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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You can get sweet potatoe chips up here at the Hlth Fd Store. MMM. Jeanie

> From: SFerris769@...

>

> In a message dated 10/18/1999 8:22:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> Eso@... writes:

>

> << 1.) reasonably tasty >>

>

> Hi Betsy,

>

> Do they taste anything like a substitute for potato chips? Even a little

bit?

>

> Sharon

>

> >

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Aikya - I'm sorry. That sounds very frustrating. Don't give up though. I

just saw A Little Princess about a girl who lived in India until she had to

go to a boarding school in America. Reminded me of you. Its a very good

movie. Very " Indian/Hindu " flavor. I wouldn't have known that until a few

days ago after learning about it from you. About love and forgiveness and

karma. Hang in there Aikya. Jeanie

> From: " aikya " <aikya@...>

>

> I am currenlty very overweight. Never been so big in my life. My thyroid

> is snoozing. Anybody else with a normal thyroid who was doing what I've

> been dong would be losing weight like crazy. I can't think about this too

> much or I'll give u[ amd sink into despair. I have to believe that the

> exercise is helping. I know the diet is.

>

> Aikya

>

> Multiple answers

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: " Fay Kelley " <faysuzanne2@...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Fay - Thanks for the good info. I know the 'simpler' things are

> > better

> > > for

> > > > > > me, but I still long for the no-nos. I laid in bed last night

> > > thinking, I

> > > > > > just have to quit drinking that coffee -- it's killing me! I got

> up

> > > this

> > > > > > morning and had hot water with lemon and honey. I dragged myself

> > > around

> > > > > and

> > > > > > got in the car to go to work, and what did I do? Stopped at a

> > > Mc's

> > > > > on

> > > > > > the way to work -- yep, coffee. I don't feel very good today,

low

> > > energy,

> > > > > > feel kind of dopey. Maybe I need to do some of those cleansing

> > > programs.

> > > > > > Any ideas? Thanks a lot. Oh, about pot lucks. I am from the

> Midwest,

> > > too,

> > > > > > and I don't find much that I can eat at those -- even the salads

> > have

> > > > > > cheeses and other no-nos in them. Best for me to make my own

main

> > > dish,

> > > > > > then I know there's ONE thing I can eat. Carol

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Carol - What I fix for others is usually what they want (within

> > > reason),

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > I also will fix something for my husband and myself. I always

> ask

> > > other

> > > > > > people if they have preferences, if there is something they

don't

> > > like, or

> > > > > > if they have allergies. I try to pick most things that can be

> > > prepared

> > > > > > somewhat ahead so that I am not cooking alot when guests arrive.

> > > > > > Generally

> > > > > > people will eat beef, lamb, fish or turkey. Most people will

> eat

> > > > > > vegetables prepared in some fashion, but some people don't like

> some

> > > > > > vegetables, so I ask.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When going out, I just ask that they don't use corn, corn syrup

or

> > > wheat

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > leave it simple. Meat and a salad usually puts people at ease

> > cause

> > > it

> > > > > > doesn't take long to prepare and can be elegant without a lot of

> > work.

> > > I

> > > > > > am

> > > > > > trying to stay away from stuff done on a charcoal grill, but in

> the

> > > summer

> > > > > > barbeque and salad is easy.

> > > > > > In the summer most kids like watermellon, and making interesting

> > > gelatin

> > > > > > salads with stuff that kids like *might* work. I try to find

out

> > > what

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > usually eat. If it is Burger King or Big Mac only, I am not

sure

> > > what I

> > > > > > would do then!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, being from the Midwest, Pot Lucks are big and people can

> bring

> > > what

> > > > > > they like and then everyone gets to pick and choose. Hope that

> you

> > > are

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > hungry the day everyone brings a dessert. ;)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ***

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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