Re: Did Beck Lie About HIV Cure?

[Guest guest]

Sadly I seem to be in the same boat. I have used the Protocol 5 times over the

last year and I am still not seeing a 0 viral load. It reduces it but it goes

back up. I cannot keep doing this protocol night after night. Its lonely, its

time consuming and I am dissapointed because I really tried!!! see my blog:

http://freedomfromhiv.blogspot.com/

Im over the Beck protocol and moving into ither stuff now anyhow. Im about to

use Olive Leaf Extract. See this site from another HIV+ blogger seeking healing.

http://cure-aids-hiv.com/blog/olive-leaf-extract/

DO you have a blog to record your efforts? I wish more people do!

[Guest guest]

My friend and I think the viral load test is faulty and theres a lot of info

online about this and a new doco on this I belive.

Personally I feel good and healed since using the protocol but I cant PROVE it.

the HIV test picks up antibodies and antigens too and other things. So its not

reliable ok. I would like you to make contact with me via my blog to talk more

about this.

We are in the same boat and the beck protocol might have gotten AIDS patients

back to work but did he ever really say we would see a 0 viral load??

Its time to move on. There are other ways.

[Guest guest]

OK, you go and move on, I'll stick with the Beck protocol. I have family members

who had cancer and diabetes and guess what, they are still around and back at

work.

Getting a bit annoyed with people calling Bob Beck a liar. He presented what he

believed in and never made a cent, quite the opposite, so why on earth would he

lie?

Wish you well.

RB

[Guest guest]

I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get the

results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt

work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about

how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not

calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but

only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and

fighting different things, so yes I will move on.

[Guest guest]

Got it and wish you well.

RB

[Guest guest]

I just read through your whole blog. If you are so disappointed in these

protocols you were doing, then why did your viral load drop and other very

positive results by what you were doing? You make comments to how good you were

feeling, etc. And you say it wasn't working? Maybe re-read your own blog and try

to find out where you went wrong. To me, your blog is very encouraging and

helpful for others. Seems like you did get off the beaten path at times, but I

guess you feel the need or I should say desperation to incorporate other things.

Maybe re-evaluate what part of the protocols were doing the best for you and

stick with them. If it doesn't 'cure' you, at least it was keeping things

managed, which until you can find the cure, will keep you alive.

>

> Sadly I seem to be in the same boat. I have used the Protocol 5 times over the

last year and I am still not seeing a 0 viral load. It reduces it but it goes

back up. I cannot keep doing this protocol night after night. Its lonely, its

time consuming and I am dissapointed because I really tried!!! see my blog:

http://freedomfromhiv.blogspot.com/

> Im over the Beck protocol and moving into ither stuff now anyhow. Im about to

use Olive Leaf Extract. See this site from another HIV+ blogger seeking healing.

http://cure-aids-hiv.com/blog/olive-leaf-extract/

> DO you have a blog to record your efforts? I wish more people do!

>

[Guest guest]

For one: you would be foolish to stop doing blood electrification since you admitted that it keeps you well.For two: I doubt you were doing the full Beck protocol, probably just blood electrification and magnetic pulsing.I had a friend with AIDS in Paraguay that stayed well and healthy as long as he did blood electrification daily. Then he got too busy and stopped doing it, got sick, started on the meds, and now he is in the afterlife. I have a weakness with the virus that causes chronic fatigue syndrome but I live amongst a population that are almost all infected with it and ready to pass it on. (Once I got it just by eating at a friends house. Probably the dishes hadn't been cleaned properly. This virus is passed by saliva. Another time I got it by drinking after someone. I was dying of thirst and couldn't help it.) So I do blood electrification

almost every day to stay healthy. You don't hear me complaining. I like feeling good and don't mind the inconvenience. I like being mistaken as someone 15 years younger than I am.You should keep doing blood electrification and add other modalities as well. You also need to be applying larger amounts of electric current to your intestinal area because that is where the virus hides out. A godzilla is really good for that.

[Guest guest]

I am only disappointed with the effort it takes to achieve these results. I had

to take time off work to do this. Noone would go to that much trouble and hold

down a job normally.

Time will tell if they stay at these levels. I find it hard to do nothing to see

if the levels fully return as I always drink the colloidal silver and I do all

those other things u read.

I should not have to do any of this because HIV was made in a lab to cull the

world population. Compared to others who have truly suffered I am grateful for

finding these treatments but there has to be something better. I am not going to

rest on my laurals.

Beck got results but I havnt seen one person obtain a 0 viral load and if they

have, then they have let us all down by not doing a simple blog like I have to

document and share it for others to benefit.

I have achieved one thing and that is to prove one can live without meds for at

least one year. I feel good and I am convinced I will never have to go on them

again. I know eventually I will achieve a 0 and I dont think its far off. I cant

spend 3 hrs a night doing a protocol and move on with my business. I am going

to try Olive Leaf Extract next. just popping some pills.

Thanks so much for reading my blog. I am glad you got something out of my

efforts.

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> > Sadly I seem to be in the same boat. I have used the Protocol 5 times over

the last year and I am still not seeing a 0 viral load. It reduces it but it

goes back up. I cannot keep doing this protocol night after night. Its lonely,

its time consuming and I am dissapointed because I really tried!!! see my blog:

http://freedomfromhiv.blogspot.com/

> > Im over the Beck protocol and moving into ither stuff now anyhow. Im about

to use Olive Leaf Extract. See this site from another HIV+ blogger seeking

healing. http://cure-aids-hiv.com/blog/olive-leaf-extract/

> > DO you have a blog to record your efforts? I wish more people do!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You may want to look into IV ozone, ultraviolet blood therapy and high doses of Vitamin C. I as well do not know anyone that has received a 0 viral load for Hep C by using any of these methods, however I know that it is controlling the virus and bringing blood work back to normal. There is a few books out there that people are claiming to have cured Hep C with Dr. Hulda ’s protocol and other things, but when I emailed them, they told me to buy the book, cause everything they did is in it. So leads me to believe they only are out for the money. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of nixatniteSent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 08:35 Subject: Re: Did Beck Lie About HIV Cure? I am only disappointed with the effort it takes to achieve these results. I had to take time off work to do this. Noone would go to that much trouble and hold down a job normally. Time will tell if they stay at these levels. I find it hard to do nothing to see if the levels fully return as I always drink the colloidal silver and I do all those other things u read.I should not have to do any of this because HIV was made in a lab to cull the world population. Compared to others who have truly suffered I am grateful for finding these treatments but there has to be something better. I am not going to rest on my laurals.Beck got results but I havnt seen one person obtain a 0 viral load and if they have, then they have let us all down by not doing a simple blog like I have to document and share it for others to benefit.I have achieved one thing and that is to prove one can live without meds for at least one year. I feel good and I am convinced I will never have to go on them again. I know eventually I will achieve a 0 and I dont think its far off. I cant spend 3 hrs a night doing a protocol and move on with my business. I am going to try Olive Leaf Extract next. just popping some pills. Thanks so much for reading my blog. I am glad you got something out of my efforts. > > > >> > Sadly I seem to be in the same boat. I have used the Protocol 5 times over the last year and I am still not seeing a 0 viral load. It reduces it but it goes back up. I cannot keep doing this protocol night after night. Its lonely, its time consuming and I am dissapointed because I really tried!!! see my blog: http://freedomfromhiv.blogspot.com/> > Im over the Beck protocol and moving into ither stuff now anyhow. Im about to use Olive Leaf Extract. See this site from another HIV+ blogger seeking healing. http://cure-aids-hiv.com/blog/olive-leaf-extract/> > DO you have a blog to record your efforts? I wish more people do!> >>

[Guest guest]

Hello Nixanite,

I totally understand your frustration. I have read your Post and

Blog over the past year.

I would Suggest the Godzilla as other have. BG has has some good

luck with this on his group. As you know the Virus Lives well in the

Intestine and Colon. This you may find it's easy to use and maybe

while sleeping with the Auto Version.

I suggested it before but maybe Boost your Immune system a little

with just a batch of Oleander Soup? Just a few table spoons a day.

Cost pennys to make. If you need the recipe, let me know.

Hoping to best for you,

M~R

On 2/17/2011 5:35 AM, nixatnite wrote:

I am only disappointed with the effort it takes to

achieve these results. I had to take time off work to do

this. Noone would go to that much trouble and hold down a

job normally.

Time will tell if they stay at these levels. I find it

hard to do nothing to see if the levels fully return as I

always drink the colloidal silver and I do all those other

things u read.

I should not have to do any of this because HIV was made

in a lab to cull the world population. Compared to others

who have truly suffered I am grateful for finding these

treatments but there has to be something better. I am not

going to rest on my laurals.

Beck got results but I havnt seen one person obtain a 0

viral load and if they have, then they have let us all

down by not doing a simple blog like I have to document

and share it for others to benefit.

I have achieved one thing and that is to prove one can

live without meds for at least one year. I feel good and I

am convinced I will never have to go on them again. I know

eventually I will achieve a 0 and I dont think its far

off. I cant spend 3 hrs a night doing a protocol and move

on with my business. I am going to try Olive Leaf Extract

next. just popping some pills.

Thanks so much for reading my blog. I am glad you got

something out of my efforts.

>

>

> >

> > Sadly I seem to be in the same boat. I have used

the Protocol 5 times over the last year and I am still not

seeing a 0 viral load. It reduces it but it goes back up.

I cannot keep doing this protocol night after night. Its

lonely, its time consuming and I am dissapointed because I

really tried!!! see my blog: http://freedomfromhiv.blogspot.com/

> > Im over the Beck protocol and moving into ither

stuff now anyhow. Im about to use Olive Leaf Extract. See

this site from another HIV+ blogger seeking healing. http://cure-aids-hiv.com/blog/olive-leaf-extract/

> > DO you have a blog to record your efforts? I

wish more people do!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried vco?

On 2/16/2011 10:52 PM, nixatnite wrote:

> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get the

results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt

work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about

how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not

calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but

only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and

fighting different things, so yes I will move on.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I have recorded and helped out 18 hep-c cases. The only one with full remission

attained it in a month, and stunned his doctors. It should have taken 4-6

months for that. He was very thoroughly tested. He is the only one of the 18

people who was willing to use the meds plus the blood electrification. The rest

of the people refused to combine meds, and all of them remained infected, though

almost all reported symptoms improved and even test scores going down 99 percent

in 15 weeks in one case without using any meds, just blood electrification. The

device was a bit heftier than beck's, but I don't think that is the main thing

here. Had he used it with the meds he might have been rid of the virus

entirely, along with the other person. I think you did a very fine thing with

your research, and appreciate it very much. I wished it had gone all the way to

full remission for you using just the beck protocol.

bG

>

> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get the

results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt

work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about

how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not

calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but

only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and

fighting different things, so yes I will move on.

>

[Guest guest]

I agree it's a grand thing he did. However, we have to be smart about it and

not just borrow one brain, though a great one . We can test his stuff and if

it goes partway, it might be combined with the standard meds and might work all

the way. Just my opinion having supervised a group doing things like this,

coming up with cheap easy devices, and all, and observing what happened.

He did not lie, I think. He may have had some financial interests, but not

directly, and I think he was motivated more by a desire to help than anything

else. Certainly not your usual snake oiler.

He made a blunder saying stop your meds, in my opinion, but he thought it might

be dangerous the interractions. And he was over-confident in how many things

would be cured just by his method alone. He missed out, due to unfortunate

untimely accidental death, on the experiments to come..and some of these will

involve combinational therapies to achieve better results than single ones.

If someone is looking for one single approach, it may not be enough at this time

for certain things, the systemic big viruses, like HIV, and Hep-C. The meds go

places the beck does not, and the beck goes places the meds do not. They can

both kill the virus in the lab, we know that, but not in the body if they can't

go where the virus is. The location of these viruses, and their ability to hide

from meds and beck stuff, but maybe not both, is the reason, in my layman

opinion but with good reason, to think a combination is the right answer at the

moment.

Beck did not have any kind words for doctors, drug companies, and possibly his

stance lost him the use of their methods alongside his own? I do not know that

answer. But I strongly think the combination is the key to full remissions.

You may not " win " the drug vs non-drug argument, but a full remission is hard to

argue with, either!

bG

>

> OK, you go and move on, I'll stick with the Beck protocol. I have family

members who had cancer and diabetes and guess what, they are still around and

back at work.

> Getting a bit annoyed with people calling Bob Beck a liar. He presented what

he believed in and never made a cent, quite the opposite, so why on earth would

he lie?

>

> Wish you well.

>

> RB

>

[Guest guest]

Well there's cases of viral load dropping with HIV, and hep-c. I doubt you will

get rid of it via the blood. It hides in gut linings and thymus gland, and

other areas so re-infection is the main problem. I posted other notes on my

thoughts, good luck to all.

bG

> > > >

> > > > Sadly I seem to be in the same boat. I have used the Protocol 5

> > times over the last year and I am still not seeing a 0 viral load. It

> > reduces it but it goes back up. I cannot keep doing this protocol

> > night after night. Its lonely, its time consuming and I am

> > dissapointed because I really tried!!! see my blog:

> > http://freedomfromhiv.blogspot.com/

> > > > Im over the Beck protocol and moving into ither stuff now anyhow.

> > Im about to use Olive Leaf Extract. See this site from another HIV+

> > blogger seeking healing. http://cure-aids-hiv.com/blog/olive-leaf-extract/

> > > > DO you have a blog to record your efforts? I wish more people do!

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Isn't there a warning about the blood electrification that it will make

the blood cells absorb more of the medication, resulting in overdose?

Also, how did Beck die?

On 2/17/2011 10:40 PM, baby_grand wrote:

> I have recorded and helped out 18 hep-c cases. The only one with full

remission attained it in a month, and stunned his doctors. It should have taken

4-6 months for that. He was very thoroughly tested. He is the only one of the

18 people who was willing to use the meds plus the blood electrification. The

rest of the people refused to combine meds, and all of them remained infected,

though almost all reported symptoms improved and even test scores going down 99

percent in 15 weeks in one case without using any meds, just blood

electrification. The device was a bit heftier than beck's, but I don't think

that is the main thing here. Had he used it with the meds he might have been

rid of the virus entirely, along with the other person. I think you did a very

fine thing with your research, and appreciate it very much. I wished it had

gone all the way to full remission for you using just the beck protocol.

>

> bG

>

>> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get the

results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt

work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about

how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not

calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but

only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and

fighting different things, so yes I will move on.

>>

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[Guest guest]

What is VCO?Thanks.

From: magisterium_magnum@...Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:02:49 -0600Subject: Re: Re: Did Beck Lie About HIV Cure?

Have you tried vco?On 2/16/2011 10:52 PM, nixatnite wrote:> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get the results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and fighting different things, so yes I will move on.>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

At age 77, Dr. C. Beck, DSc., Physics, died in 2002 as a result of a fall

from a ladder that resulted in a head injury which created water on his brain,

later resulting in cardiac arrest.

RB

[Guest guest]

Hello,

  I would go beyond virgin coconut oil and use monolauricidin aka monolaurin.  It is more reactive than vco and olive leaf extract at removing viral lipid coating.

Cheers

[Guest guest]

Hi Brad Any bibliographical and commercial references to monolaurin?

Thanks

From: Brad Andersen

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:15 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Did Beck Lie About HIV Cure?

Hello,

I would go beyond virgin coconut oil and use monolauricidin aka monolaurin. It is more reactive than vco and olive leaf extract at removing viral lipid coating.

Cheers

[Guest guest]

Virgin coconut oil?

From: Hitendra Shah MD

Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:19 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Did Beck Lie About HIV Cure?

What is VCO?Thanks.

From: magisterium_magnum@...Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:02:49 -0600Subject: Re: Re: Did Beck Lie About HIV Cure?

Have you tried vco?On 2/16/2011 10:52 PM, nixatnite wrote:> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get the results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and fighting different things, so yes I will move on.>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

Virgin coconut oilSent from my iPhoneOn 2011-02-18, at 1:19 AM, Hitendra Shah MD <hhshahmd@...> wrote:

What is VCO?Thanks.

From: magisterium_magnum@...Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:02:49 -0600Subject: Re: Re: Did Beck Lie About HIV Cure?

Have you tried vco?On 2/16/2011 10:52 PM, nixatnite wrote:> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get the results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and fighting different things, so yes I will move on.>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

There is an unfortunate " forbidden " rule, it's worse than a warning. Totally

wrong.

bG

> >> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get

the results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt

work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about

how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not

calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but

only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and

fighting different things, so yes I will move on.

> >>

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[Guest guest]

virgin coconut oil

On 2/18/2011 12:19 AM, Hitendra Shah MD wrote:

What is VCO?

Thanks. 

From: magisterium_magnum@...

Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:02:49 -0600

Subject: Re: Re: Did Beck Lie About

HIV Cure?

 

Have you tried vco?

On 2/16/2011 10:52 PM, nixatnite wrote:

> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire

year and did not get the results I wanted. I cant deny I

feel better and it may not be that it didnt work, its more

the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all

about how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely

dissapear. I am certainly not calling Bob Beck a liar but if

one doesnt get the result one should move on but only after

trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different

situations and fighting different things, so yes I will move

on.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

One should always watch for side effects, interractions, etc. But in this case

stopping meds and ignoring the possible synergies that could result from using

both methods at the same time, out of fear or belief in someone's reputation,

can cost you the cure in many cases, I think.

bG

> > >> I am only moving on because I used it for one entire year and did not get

the results I wanted. I cant deny I feel better and it may not be that it didnt

work, its more the tests I have to measure it are faulty. For me its all about

how I feel and I may never 'see' it completely dissapear. I am certainly not

calling Bob Beck a liar but if one doesnt get the result one should move on but

only after trying very hard, as I have. We are all in different situations and

fighting different things, so yes I will move on.

> > >>

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[Guest guest]

I use VCO instead of butter. Surely its just an add on to ones good diet. It

cant be a treatment alone can it?